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    BALTIMORE RAVENS +1 TO THE BANK................LARGE

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    SharpShooter8
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 9:49 AM ET #51

    I remember an unfeated Patriots team in 2007 who faced Baltimore mid season...Pats won by a miracle.

    This line is fishy.  Vegas does not screw up.  This line tells me that Indy is an overrated 9-0. 

    I will not touch this game.  However, if i was forced into it, I would wait until public hammers Indy, and take Balt + 2 or 2.5.

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    I remember an unfeated Patriots team in 2007 who faced Baltimore mid season...Pats won by a miracle.

    This line is fishy.  Vegas does not screw up.  This line tells me that Indy is an overrated 9-0. 

    I will not touch this game.  However, if i was forced into it, I would wait until public hammers Indy, and take Balt + 2 or 2.5.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:02 AM ET #52

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:21 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by gambling-devil:

    Baltimore 20, Indy 14

    Baltimore will lead and win by 6 points.
    No, they will not go for 4th down on their 28 yards line. They will pick off Manning on the last drive.

    BALT LARGE, very very LARGE






    When you have Brady, the best QB in the league, and the winningest QB ever? if you aint 1st your tied for first.

    I even invented a word to pay my respects for him...

    And im a Chargers fan, man were the only team to go into NE in december and hand out a 30 points spanking twice in rescent years!!! but come playoff time.... he always returns the favour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambling-devil:

    Baltimore 20, Indy 14

    Baltimore will lead and win by 6 points.
    No, they will not go for 4th down on their 28 yards line. They will pick off Manning on the last drive.

    BALT LARGE, very very LARGE






    When you have Brady, the best QB in the league, and the winningest QB ever? if you aint 1st your tied for first.

    I even invented a word to pay my respects for him...

    And im a Chargers fan, man were the only team to go into NE in december and hand out a 30 points spanking twice in rescent years!!! but come playoff time.... he always returns the favour.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:38 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    I remember an unfeated Patriots team in 2007 who faced Baltimore mid season...Pats won by a miracle.

    This line is fishy.  Vegas does not screw up.  This line tells me that Indy is an overrated 9-0. 

    I will not touch this game.  However, if i was forced into it, I would wait until public hammers Indy, and take Balt + 2 or 2.5.



    Vegas set this line based on public perception of baltimore, and a little bit indi.

    Cinci, beat the Ravens in Balt fair and square the first time they met, having similar records, Balt was a heavy 8 point fav. The public obviously was more faithfull to the ravens over cinci due to last years performance(Even though Palmers back now better then ever lol),

    So the second time these teams met, In Cinci, Balt was -3.5 IN CINCI!!! EVEN THOUGH CINCI HAD BEATEN BALT ALRDY IN BALT!!! (And unlike the SD, DEN rematch scenario, there are no injuries/returning players)

    Indi, due to some close wins (It doesn't matter how you win if you win) has the public thinking 'THEY ARE DUE FOR A LOSS' And a hungry Baltimore (Who in all fairness gets rolling usually late in the season) is going to win.

    No matter how you put it, the only way I can see the Colt's 'DESERVING' an even line, would be playing @ Pitt, NE, Minn or NO.

    I believe the line should have been -3.5 for the colts based on performance.

    ****HOWEVER**** Like I said, Baltimore always gets rollin' this time of a year, and a weak Colts secondary will help Balt's O put up numbers aswell, (Although vice-versa applies to this statement, not because Balt's secondary sucks, but because Its manning-wayne)

    I believe this game is a gamble and could go either way, although the vegas line caters to public perception. I'm going to sit back and watch this controversy unfold, and people kick themselves, when there are much safer bets this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    I remember an unfeated Patriots team in 2007 who faced Baltimore mid season...Pats won by a miracle.

    This line is fishy.  Vegas does not screw up.  This line tells me that Indy is an overrated 9-0. 

    I will not touch this game.  However, if i was forced into it, I would wait until public hammers Indy, and take Balt + 2 or 2.5.



    Vegas set this line based on public perception of baltimore, and a little bit indi.

    Cinci, beat the Ravens in Balt fair and square the first time they met, having similar records, Balt was a heavy 8 point fav. The public obviously was more faithfull to the ravens over cinci due to last years performance(Even though Palmers back now better then ever lol),

    So the second time these teams met, In Cinci, Balt was -3.5 IN CINCI!!! EVEN THOUGH CINCI HAD BEATEN BALT ALRDY IN BALT!!! (And unlike the SD, DEN rematch scenario, there are no injuries/returning players)

    Indi, due to some close wins (It doesn't matter how you win if you win) has the public thinking 'THEY ARE DUE FOR A LOSS' And a hungry Baltimore (Who in all fairness gets rolling usually late in the season) is going to win.

    No matter how you put it, the only way I can see the Colt's 'DESERVING' an even line, would be playing @ Pitt, NE, Minn or NO.

    I believe the line should have been -3.5 for the colts based on performance.

    ****HOWEVER**** Like I said, Baltimore always gets rollin' this time of a year, and a weak Colts secondary will help Balt's O put up numbers aswell, (Although vice-versa applies to this statement, not because Balt's secondary sucks, but because Its manning-wayne)

    I believe this game is a gamble and could go either way, although the vegas line caters to public perception. I'm going to sit back and watch this controversy unfold, and people kick themselves, when there are much safer bets this week.

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:40 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    I will not touch this game.  However, if i was forced into it, I would wait until public hammers Indy, and take Balt + 2 or 2.5.



    P.S. there isn't much of a difference between Balt -1 and -2.5, getting them at a key value (+3.5) =

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    I will not touch this game.  However, if i was forced into it, I would wait until public hammers Indy, and take Balt + 2 or 2.5.



    P.S. there isn't much of a difference between Balt -1 and -2.5, getting them at a key value (+3.5) =

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:40 AM ET #56

    i meant +1 and +2.5, my apologies.
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    i meant +1 and +2.5, my apologies.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:56 AM ET #57

    why all the love for balt.they scored 10 ts offensivlyagainst the browns .the coach even admitts that the browns had there still young overachiving qb trouble.If u noticed Flacco isnt surprising teams like last year. I can see betting the colts ,orleaving the game alone ,taking Balt  is a gamblea big one.
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    why all the love for balt.they scored 10 ts offensivlyagainst the browns .the coach even admitts that the browns had there still young overachiving qb trouble.If u noticed Flacco isnt surprising teams like last year. I can see betting the colts ,orleaving the game alone ,taking Balt  is a gamblea big one.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 11:12 AM ET #58

    Suggs is very ??? for Sunday,Ngata ??? also...without them 2 get after Manning it could B a long afternoon 4 the Ravens secondary.....
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    Suggs is very ??? for Sunday,Ngata ??? also...without them 2 get after Manning it could B a long afternoon 4 the Ravens secondary.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 11:44 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:

    SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN......

    NEVER BET AGAINST PEYTON MANNING

    COLTS +1 

    Never bet against Manning? Have you bet with him his last 3 home games 0-3 ATS

    You have to know when to bet with him, and when to bet against him.Its called picking your spots

    I bet against Manning his last 3 home games: The last 2 big

    Sfran +12 W

    Houston +10 W

    NE +3 W

    - The storms will come, the storms will pass -
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:

    SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN......

    NEVER BET AGAINST PEYTON MANNING

    COLTS +1 

    Never bet against Manning? Have you bet with him his last 3 home games 0-3 ATS

    You have to know when to bet with him, and when to bet against him.Its called picking your spots

    I bet against Manning his last 3 home games: The last 2 big

    Sfran +12 W

    Houston +10 W

    NE +3 W

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 12:41 PM ET #60

    I think no action is on this game yet because everyone is wondering on the KEY injuries the ravens have
    Ngata and Suggs.

    That would be huge if they missed this game and could drive that line up.


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    I think no action is on this game yet because everyone is wondering on the KEY injuries the ravens have
    Ngata and Suggs.

    That would be huge if they missed this game and could drive that line up.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by CURRRTIS123:

    im sorry about the other night bro i was wrong on that one, and this time i werent calling you out i was just discussing



    It's all good man. We are all here for the love of the game and to make .

    Best of luck to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by CURRRTIS123:

    im sorry about the other night bro i was wrong on that one, and this time i werent calling you out i was just discussing



    It's all good man. We are all here for the love of the game and to make .

    Best of luck to you
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 12:44 PM ET #62

    Ravens -1....Now Colts-1....Suggs out MCL damage from the cheap shot from Quinn...Unless the Ravens can pressure Peyton??? A long day will B ahead for Washington and Foxworth....
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    Ravens -1....Now Colts-1....Suggs out MCL damage from the cheap shot from Quinn...Unless the Ravens can pressure Peyton??? A long day will B ahead for Washington and Foxworth....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 1:41 PM ET #63

    If you owned a sportsbook, would you open this line at Baltimore -1 without a good reason knowing that the public would pound Indy after their high profile win against the Patriots?


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    If you owned a sportsbook, would you open this line at Baltimore -1 without a good reason knowing that the public would pound Indy after their high profile win against the Patriots?


     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 1:57 PM ET #64

    Did Vegas really think they would get 50/50 money on this game with opening it at Ravens -1.....Ir closes at Colts -3 by game time....No Suggs 2 get #18 is a major problem 4 them...
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    Did Vegas really think they would get 50/50 money on this game with opening it at Ravens -1.....Ir closes at Colts -3 by game time....No Suggs 2 get #18 is a major problem 4 them...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 2:17 PM ET #65

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #66

    Imo, the line should be Colts -4.5 but Vegas put a line out of Ravens -1 & it has switched to Colts -1, if it keeps going up, it should!
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    Imo, the line should be Colts -4.5 but Vegas put a line out of Ravens -1 & it has switched to Colts -1, if it keeps going up, it should!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 2:55 PM ET #67

    Great write ups.  I agree with most of them, I do like your Colts pick.  I think that the way they are playing lately does indicate that they are due for a loss but I don't think its going to be Baltimore.  I know it was only Cleveland, but Baltimore is playing on a short week.  They couldn't put points up against Cinci either so have they been hiding their offense for two weeks? or are they just having problems moving the ball and more importantly scoring?  We know Indy can put up points against pretty much anybody, especially a Baltimore defence with some key injuries.  They're defence can't and won't win this game.  The thing with Indy is you can't stop Peyton you can only hope to contain him.  If Baltimore can't put up points, they won't be in this game.  Indy's first loss is going to come at the hands of Houston.

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    Great write ups.  I agree with most of them, I do like your Colts pick.  I think that the way they are playing lately does indicate that they are due for a loss but I don't think its going to be Baltimore.  I know it was only Cleveland, but Baltimore is playing on a short week.  They couldn't put points up against Cinci either so have they been hiding their offense for two weeks? or are they just having problems moving the ball and more importantly scoring?  We know Indy can put up points against pretty much anybody, especially a Baltimore defence with some key injuries.  They're defence can't and won't win this game.  The thing with Indy is you can't stop Peyton you can only hope to contain him.  If Baltimore can't put up points, they won't be in this game.  Indy's first loss is going to come at the hands of Houston.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 3:06 PM ET #68

    Are the same people who said "this is the Browns Superbowl they will cover" in here saying the Ravens will own Peyton inc.??

    LMFAO!

    The Ravens couldn't score on the Browns in the first half.

    Colts come back huge and beat the Patriots.

    Go ahead and take the Ravens. Miracles happen sometimes I guess???

    Colts big for Stinky.


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    Are the same people who said "this is the Browns Superbowl they will cover" in here saying the Ravens will own Peyton inc.??

    LMFAO!

    The Ravens couldn't score on the Browns in the first half.

    Colts come back huge and beat the Patriots.

    Go ahead and take the Ravens. Miracles happen sometimes I guess???

    Colts big for Stinky.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 3:11 PM ET #69

    Suggs being out doesn't make much of a difference. He has done nothing all year.

    They might put someone in who can actually rush the QB.

    Ngata will play, that makes a huge difference.

    They need to keep Webb on the field, he just makes things happen.

    Ravens are one of the best home teams in the league.

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    Suggs being out doesn't make much of a difference. He has done nothing all year.

    They might put someone in who can actually rush the QB.

    Ngata will play, that makes a huge difference.

    They need to keep Webb on the field, he just makes things happen.

    Ravens are one of the best home teams in the league.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 3:33 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    Suggs being out doesn't make much of a difference. He has done nothing all year.

    They might put someone in who can actually rush the QB.

    Ngata will play, that makes a huge difference.

    They need to keep Webb on the field, he just makes things happen.

    Ravens are one of the best home teams in the league.

    Suggs hasn't done much this year,not sure he was fully recovered from getting hurt late last  year....Kruger had a decent college career at Utah,pressure off the edge...Webb needs 2 start,Foxworth has been a total bust...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    Suggs being out doesn't make much of a difference. He has done nothing all year.

    They might put someone in who can actually rush the QB.

    Ngata will play, that makes a huge difference.

    They need to keep Webb on the field, he just makes things happen.

    Ravens are one of the best home teams in the league.

    Suggs hasn't done much this year,not sure he was fully recovered from getting hurt late last  year....Kruger had a decent college career at Utah,pressure off the edge...Webb needs 2 start,Foxworth has been a total bust...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 4:09 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    Suggs being out doesn't make much of a difference. He has done nothing all year.

    They might put someone in who can actually rush the QB.

    Ngata will play, that makes a huge difference.

    They need to keep Webb on the field, he just makes things happen.

    Ravens are one of the best home teams in the league.



    Yes and the Colts are the best Away team in the league.

    I mean... they haven't lost one game on the road.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    Suggs being out doesn't make much of a difference. He has done nothing all year.

    They might put someone in who can actually rush the QB.

    Ngata will play, that makes a huge difference.

    They need to keep Webb on the field, he just makes things happen.

    Ravens are one of the best home teams in the league.



    Yes and the Colts are the best Away team in the league.

    I mean... they haven't lost one game on the road.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 5:57 PM ET #72

    Balt will lose this game.......Indy rolls 24-14
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    Balt will lose this game.......Indy rolls 24-14
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 6:04 PM ET #73

    Let me start off by saying that I am a DIEHARD RAVENS FAN!

    however, it appears there are either some Ravens Homers or Colts haters picking the Ravens to win this, but let's be honest, if our team was 100% healthy we would more than likely still get blown out by the Colts. They have the Ravens number PERIOD!

    Add to that from top to bottom, John Harbaugh has shown he really has no F'ng clue what he's doing, he can't manage the clock, he has piss poor judgement of talent and when to put certain players in, for instance, after week 4 Ladarius Webb should've not only been returning punts and kicks but starting at CB or at least nickel back. The 2nd round pick Kruger has had about 4 snaps since the begin of season, Chris Carr is an absolute bum, along with everyone else in the secondary not named Ed Reed.

    Our LB core outside of Ray Lewis is complete TRASH, except Jarret Johnson as well, but the other guys do not belong in a Ravens uniform. This team started out underacheiving since day 1 against the chiefs were in the 4th quarter the Chiefs had the lead.

    I think the defensive reputation Bmore has had the past 10 years has clouded the judgement of odds makers all season long, this defense is SOFT, on top of that Flacco seems to be regressing, mainly because he can no longer trust his piss poor WR corps which Ozzie so arrogantly refused to upgrade in the preseason. Our Dline with Suggs is awful, now they are without him, and believe it's not like there are these magical studs on the Ravens team just waiting for the Colts game to play for real, please folks, if they had it in them they most certainly wouldn't be only 5-4 now would they?

    Colts by AT LEAST 10 points.

    FYI - my post is not meant to bash any other opinions, or sound like I know everything so please do not take offense to any of my post. I know some people get pretty passionate about why they believe their picks are right is why I say this and it's not my intention to anger anyone, i'm new to the board and enjoy reading all the posts here!

     

    GL to all!

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    Let me start off by saying that I am a DIEHARD RAVENS FAN!

    however, it appears there are either some Ravens Homers or Colts haters picking the Ravens to win this, but let's be honest, if our team was 100% healthy we would more than likely still get blown out by the Colts. They have the Ravens number PERIOD!

    Add to that from top to bottom, John Harbaugh has shown he really has no F'ng clue what he's doing, he can't manage the clock, he has piss poor judgement of talent and when to put certain players in, for instance, after week 4 Ladarius Webb should've not only been returning punts and kicks but starting at CB or at least nickel back. The 2nd round pick Kruger has had about 4 snaps since the begin of season, Chris Carr is an absolute bum, along with everyone else in the secondary not named Ed Reed.

    Our LB core outside of Ray Lewis is complete TRASH, except Jarret Johnson as well, but the other guys do not belong in a Ravens uniform. This team started out underacheiving since day 1 against the chiefs were in the 4th quarter the Chiefs had the lead.

    I think the defensive reputation Bmore has had the past 10 years has clouded the judgement of odds makers all season long, this defense is SOFT, on top of that Flacco seems to be regressing, mainly because he can no longer trust his piss poor WR corps which Ozzie so arrogantly refused to upgrade in the preseason. Our Dline with Suggs is awful, now they are without him, and believe it's not like there are these magical studs on the Ravens team just waiting for the Colts game to play for real, please folks, if they had it in them they most certainly wouldn't be only 5-4 now would they?

    Colts by AT LEAST 10 points.

    FYI - my post is not meant to bash any other opinions, or sound like I know everything so please do not take offense to any of my post. I know some people get pretty passionate about why they believe their picks are right is why I say this and it's not my intention to anger anyone, i'm new to the board and enjoy reading all the posts here!

     

    GL to all!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 6:18 PM ET #74

    Did U have 2 B so honest in your analysis....The D is not the same,but that being said they R 12 points from the fewest points allowed this year...As a Raven fan,I hope they win,their  season is on the line...5-5 will leave them with 2 much work 2 do...But I'll B cheering my ass off on Sunday afternoon 4 the Purple and Gold.....
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    Did U have 2 B so honest in your analysis....The D is not the same,but that being said they R 12 points from the fewest points allowed this year...As a Raven fan,I hope they win,their  season is on the line...5-5 will leave them with 2 much work 2 do...But I'll B cheering my ass off on Sunday afternoon 4 the Purple and Gold.....
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 6:20 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Imo, the line should be Colts -4.5 but Vegas put a line out of Ravens -1 & it has switched to Colts -1, if it keeps going up, it should!


    The opening line of Baltimore -1 was meant to be a troll for Indianapolis money. All the suckers are lining up 5 deep to lay it down. Mission accomplished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Imo, the line should be Colts -4.5 but Vegas put a line out of Ravens -1 & it has switched to Colts -1, if it keeps going up, it should!


    The opening line of Baltimore -1 was meant to be a troll for Indianapolis money. All the suckers are lining up 5 deep to lay it down. Mission accomplished!
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