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Posted: #76
Quote Originally Posted by pretzelcart:


This is crazy talk.  I'm sorry, players get hot and cold.  Ever play basketball?  Sometimes you'll knock down 10 in a row, sometimes you'll miss 10 in a row. Depends on intensity and all that garbage. 

Take for example the 76ers, you've got 12 players who are literally all playing for their lives.  You really think they're gonna try to miss some shots just because vegas told them to?  They're on minimum contracts, you think they would risk everything for Vegas (WHY?).

you messed up comparing yourself to pro players.  i know guys who play overseas that can hit 80/100 3's.  yes you can go through slumps but two pro teams scoring 20 in a quarter?  one team scoring 10? come on.

your correct guys will play for spots.  thats why covington/ kj mcd/wroten will put up numbers but at the end of the day that is a horribly assembled team that wont win a game. a gm wont dock a 76er for losing games lol..
 
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Phixer, no need to try to convince these naïve idiots.  They can live their fairytale for the rest of their lives for all I care.  I gave up on trying to convince people with examples long time ago.  It's a shame to see some of the vets here still wasting their time and efforts on stats and junk. 

You're either on the right side of the fix or you aren't.  Live with it!

 
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So phix, I ask you this then. With the line favoring GS even after a cavs win, you are gonna go against your original outline of each finals game outcome? I am leaning golden state myself but I'm just trying to get a sense if I'm reading you wrong here or if things have changed your mind after watching the first two games. It sounds as if you like GS tonite. As always, I'm with ya on public perception and how it holds many back from making money. I also believe with the money generated, vegas indeed had their paws in these "leagues". Let me know phix and much thanks for all your insight brotha. Hope all is well. 
 
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Exactly. These players are nothing more than actors. If they need over they will score furiously without any resistance. Sometimes in the final 2.5 mins. I've seen teams score over 20 pts in 2 Mims and then others can't score that in a quarter. Mind boggling. Lol

Exactly correct. It's so obvious I wonder sometimes how everyone doesn't notice. How is there even a debate here. lol everyone debating that sports isn't rigged is probably working for vegas.

Curry is not the greatest actor either. You should see when he purposely bricks those shots he makes it look so obvious that he didn't even try to make em. And then he has this stupid look on his face afterwards. LOL I see right through all of it. You can watch sometimes they will shoot way too hard, if you watch closely how they release the ball, you can literally see them purposely missing their shots. 

Also many games, they will pass up wide open 3 pt opportunities, because usually that means the game is rigged to go under. 
 
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Also on games rigged to go under, you will notice them stand around and eat up the entire shot clock before taking a shot. Both teams will do this on nearly every possession. This ensures an under, no matter how many shots they make.

And then if it's rigged to go over, they will play insane fast tempo most of the game, and this is 100% guaranteed when they do this, that the game will go over.


But what i've also noticed is not every game is 100% rigged for a certain side. Many games will be 50/50 rigged to go right around the spread, so there is no sure bet. It's a coinflip. This keeps things random for the bookmakers and for vegas, so that nobody can get too easy of money.

So they have all avenues covered
 
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It's not Vegas dictating....

It's the crooked NBA...why play 7 games to decide who is the better team? Why not 3 or 5 games? The answer is easy. The more games played equals more $ for the league. Tons and tons of more $. They hit 12.8 on ratings compared to 2.2 for the NHL. So the NBA has people watching and sponsers paying $ for commercials etc...

The League says "we need THESE calls tonight to keep the game close"...all game long in game 2 I was upset w/ calls I thought went against GSW. Klay being called for 2 personals in the first 5 minutes when on the 2nd foul it was phantom at best. Klay sits down for a long period and the game stays close. 

LeBron got hammered in overtime w/ no call...

But who remembers the play when Lebron basically threw himself to the left w/ his elbows against Iggy or Green while shooting and got the call before overtime? I do, and so did a guy I worked with. I said to him that I had to rewind the tv to show my GF how gross that play was. He said "I did the same thing, it was soooo blatant". 

The NBA imo thinks GSW will roll in 4 or 5, thus losing $ for the league unless things "happen". In tonights game steps Joey Crawford who is something like 23-6 SU when reffing LBJ games in the playoffs. Conspiracy? Maybe....the NBA, absolutely. GSW win in 7, just like the league wants. Trying to figure out who wins the games before it's tied 3-3 going to 7 is the issue here. 

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Posted: #82
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Exactly correct. It's so obvious I wonder sometimes how everyone doesn't notice. How is there even a debate here. lol everyone debating that sports isn't rigged is probably working for vegas.

Curry is not the greatest actor either. You should see when he purposely bricks those shots he makes it look so obvious that he didn't even try to make em. And then he has this stupid look on his face afterwards. LOL I see right through all of it. You can watch sometimes they will shoot way too hard, if you watch closely how they release the ball, you can literally see them purposely missing their shots. 

Also many games, they will pass up wide open 3 pt opportunities, because usually that means the game is rigged to go under. 

Of all the NBA players who have gone in and out of the league. How many players have admitted to this?  

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I figured, you know, a disgruntled min vet who was just cut would say something, no?  No book has been written by a player accusing the NBA of fixing.  Where is the Jose Canseco of sports fixing?

Where is the proof?  Show me the science. Vegas won 3.3M out of a possible 116M from almost 200 sports books during the Super Bowl.  About what 10M was made from just juice?  Sounds like they would have made a buckload more money had Seattle've won. What went wrong? Carroll got the call from Vegas that a win was urgent and he decided to pass the ball instead of running? 






 
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Quote Originally Posted by pretzelcart:


Of all the NBA players who have gone in and out of the league. How many players have admitted to this?  

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I figured, you know, a disgruntled min vet who was just cut would say something, no?  No book has been written by a player accusing the NBA of fixing.  Where is the Jose Canseco of sports fixing?

Where is the proof?  Show me the science. Vegas won 3.3M out of a possible 116M from almost 200 sports books during the Super Bowl.  About what 10M was made from just juice?  Sounds like they would have made a buckload more money had Seattle've won. What went wrong? Carroll got the call from Vegas that a win was urgent and he decided to pass the ball instead of running?  Malcom Butler didn't get the memo?





 
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phix thanks for all your time and effort and $$$ picks
 
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Quote Originally Posted by doliver517:

It's not Vegas dictating....

It's the crooked NBA...why play 7 games to decide who is the better team? Why not 3 or 5 games? The answer is easy. The more games played equals more $ for the league. Tons and tons of more $. They hit 12.8 on ratings compared to 2.2 for the NHL. So the NBA has people watching and sponsers paying $ for commercials etc...

The League says "we need THESE calls tonight to keep the game close"...all game long in game 2 I was upset w/ calls I thought went against GSW. Klay being called for 2 personals in the first 5 minutes when on the 2nd foul it was phantom at best. Klay sits down for a long period and the game stays close. 

LeBron got hammered in overtime w/ no call...

But who remembers the play when Lebron basically threw himself to the left w/ his elbows against Iggy or Green while shooting and got the call before overtime? I do, and so did a guy I worked with. I said to him that I had to rewind the tv to show my GF how gross that play was. He said "I did the same thing, it was soooo blatant". 

The NBA imo thinks GSW will roll in 4 or 5, thus losing $ for the league unless things "happen". In tonights game steps Joey Crawford who is something like 23-6 SU when reffing LBJ games in the playoffs. Conspiracy? Maybe....the NBA, absolutely. GSW win in 7, just like the league wants. Trying to figure out who wins the games before it's tied 3-3 going to 7 is the issue here. 

GL to all 



This is I can believe.  NBA influencing their refs to keep the games close for both ratings and for a game 7.  But to say Vegas has a hand in this, is absolutely absurd.  They would go down faster than FIFA ever did.
 
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Posted: #86
Quote Originally Posted by pretzelcart:


Of all the NBA players who have gone in and out of the league. How many players have admitted to this?  

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I figured, you know, a disgruntled min vet who was just cut would say something, no?  No book has been written by a player accusing the NBA of fixing.  Where is the Jose Canseco of sports fixing?

Where is the proof?  Show me the science. Vegas won 3.3M out of a possible 116M from almost 200 sports books during the Super Bowl.  About what 10M was made from just juice?  Sounds like they would have made a buckload more money had Seattle've won. What went wrong? Carroll got the call from Vegas that a win was urgent and he decided to pass the ball instead of running? 







Well, they can't rig every play for vegas to profit, or the smart people would notice and exploit it to the max. So they have to keep people guessing. Also like I said some games are 50/50 and are coin flips. And some games are 100% rigged. Just open your eyes and you will see. I am not saying vegas does it, just saying they are obviously in on it, that's how they know how to make the spreads. Maybe the NBA dictates who is going to win (The refs and players) and then they give the word to vegas.

Who knows. All I know is that it's rigged and the players do purposely miss shots and fumble the ball, etc. And they slow and speed up tempo depending on if they want the game over or under. You can even see them looking up at the score and counting in their head how many points they are allowed to get, so they always keeping track.

Of course they're not gonna tell the public they get paid way too much and they'd get in a lot of trouble for that. But just do a google search you'll see that some of their relatives have leaked it out to the public. For example, Lamar Odom's brother said it was all staged and he said he couldn't believe anyone even still beleived it was real. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

thanks. you just proved my point.
you see, i treat all who visit my thread with positive or negative attitude - with respect. always did. always will. you know why? because that is the way i treat people who take their time and come here to respond. so, i will not change my ways now but you did prove a basic psychological assumption that people who at their childhood were mistreated and called names - will carry the trauma for their whole life and will address strangers with disrespect and by name calling. yes - i am crazy. my wife also says so.
but - if you call a moron someone because of his convictions that made him and his followers tremendous amounts of money - you either have to produce better record than me or admit that by calling me a moron you admit that even a moron is more able than you
  All you have to do is explain how it's done.  I've askled many times, and no one has answered, let alone come up with a reasonable explanation.  Please, please tell us how Las Vegas controls Curry, Thompson, James, Delly, Smith, Green, Mozgov, Bogut.  How does it happen?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by pretzelcart:


This is I can believe.  NBA influencing their refs to keep the games close for both ratings and for a game 7.  But to say Vegas has a hand in this, is absolutely absurd.  They would go down faster than FIFA ever did.
If i was running the league I would do the same thing. I would also be Jewish and a lawyer, I pray I can 1 of the 2 someday   I'm positive the commish isn't saying to the refs "the Cavs have to win", but I'm positive when the higher ups review the refs and their performance they chirp in their ears the things they want to happen. Kind of parents that want their young kids to do or say cute things at the right moment, but in this case millions of dollars are at stake, not to mention the jobs of said refs  think about it
 
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Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

  All you have to do is explain how it's done.  I've askled many times, and no one has answered, let alone come up with a reasonable explanation.  Please, please tell us how Las Vegas controls Curry, Thompson, James, Delly, Smith, Green, Mozgov, Bogut.  How does it happen?
Scroll up, read my post...It's not Vegas. It's the league. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

2003 white paper on gambling showed that gambling industry is equal to a cigarette industry at 365 billion dollars a year. that was 1 billion dollars a day 12 years ago. so if the sports betting is 18% of all the gambling as it was then - that would equal to 180,000,000 dollars a day 12 years ago. i believe online gambling in general and sports betting in particular has grown since and by a lot.
so, do you really think that kind of money is not controlled? really?  come on. really?

 
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TLDR... so whats the play this eve?
 
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Posted: #92
Tim Donaghy explains how league/refs influences games

Posted by another poster last year so take it for what its worth.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/
 
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Stop shaking hands and thinking Vegas has anything to do w/ the outcome of games. Go to the source. The source is the NBA. The source is a bunch of white (and i'm white) millionaire, educated business men who employee the men calling the game. Is Vegas in on it or is Vegas smart enough to know what eventually happen? The series price is the same as it was before game 1 w/ Cleveland having the home court now....c'mon, think 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LIanafranks5:


Well, they can't rig every play for vegas to profit, or the smart people would notice and exploit it to the max. So they have to keep people guessing. Also like I said some games are 50/50 and are coin flips. And some games are 100% rigged. Just open your eyes and you will see. I am not saying vegas does it, just saying they are obviously in on it, that's how they know how to make the spreads. Maybe the NBA dictates who is going to win (The refs and players) and then they give the word to vegas.

Who knows. All I know is that it's rigged and the players do purposely miss shots and fumble the ball, etc. And they slow and speed up tempo depending on if they want the game over or under. You can even see them looking up at the score and counting in their head how many points they are allowed to get, so they always keeping track.

Of course they're not gonna tell the public they get paid way too much and they'd get in a lot of trouble for that. But just do a google search you'll see that some of their relatives have leaked it out to the public. For example, Lamar Odom's brother said it was all staged and he said he couldn't believe anyone even still beleived it was real. 

LOL. I actually did the google search and it was one of the kardashian brothers who said that the NBA was staged and game 7 is all about money.  Again, this is not Vegas' move.  And again you are sourcing a Kardashian.

I will forever question your intelligence if this is the source you are referring to.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by remainfocuz:

Tim Donaghy explains how league/refs influences games

Posted by another poster last year so take it for what its worth.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/

1st off this is the NBA and not Vegas.

I do not believe that Vegas is involved in fixing anything.
Can the NBA influence refs to call one play and not the other? Absolutely, but I'm going to need to see a source from somebody who is not a felon and has been banished by the NBA with an ulterior motive. 
 
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pretzel cart, so appropriately named, As that is more than likely what you do or will be doing for a living if you truly believe the garbage you are spewing.

Poetic dummy? 
No Poetic is you having that username since 2012 Yet you only choose to use it to defend the other idiot who is trying to make a name for himself.

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We are all stocked up here.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

  All you have to do is explain how it's done.  I've askled many times, and no one has answered, let alone come up with a reasonable explanation.  Please, please tell us how Las Vegas controls Curry, Thompson, James, Delly, Smith, Green, Mozgov, Bogut.  How does it happen?

MK Ultra. Illuminati mind control programming. 

Just look Tracy McGrady scores 13 pts in 33 seconds during the final minute of their game against the spurs.

Look up 13 and 33 both illuminati numbers. The only way this would be possible is with MK Ultra mind control. 

Look up James Holmes colorado shooting, he killed 13 people I think. There was a video released the night prior to the shooting by lil wayne, showing 13 skeletons in the seats at the movie theatre.
So Holmes was under mk ultra mind control and programmed to kill exactly 13 people.
 
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MK Ultra. Illuminati mind control programming. 

Just look Tracy McGrady scores 13 pts in 33 seconds during the final minute of their game against the spurs.

Look up 13 and 33 both illuminati numbers. The only way this would be possible is with MK Ultra mind control. 

Look up James Holmes colorado shooting, he killed 13 people I think. There was a video released the night prior to the shooting by lil wayne, showing 13 skeletons in the seats at the movie theatre.
So Holmes was under mk ultra mind control and programmed to kill exactly 13 people.

No wonder you believe Vegas is fixing.  You are smart enough to believe in this mind controlling silly stuff.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

pretzel cart, so appropriately named, As that is more than likely what you do or will be doing for a living if you truly believe the garbage you are spewing.

Poetic dummy? 
No Poetic is you having that username since 2012 Yet you only choose to use it to defend the other idiot who is trying to make a name for himself.

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We are all stocked up here.

You don't have to capitalize every word unless its the first word in a sentence.  FYI.

Did you go to college? i'm willing to bet you didn't.  No Vegas fix needed.
 
 
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No wonder you believe Vegas is fixing.  You are smart enough to believe in this mind controlling silly stuff.


He also believes in a higher being and there's a cloud awaiting him once he walks thru the pearly gates.....
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