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    NBA Finals Game 4 -- Cavs win by 2 or 3 pts

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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:26 AM ET #51

    just to clarify so you won't be misunderstood.

    in the past 25 years, 8 finals have ended in exactly 5 games.

    3 finals have ended in a sweep.

    11 out of the past 25 finals have ended in 5 games or less. 44%, short finals happens
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    just to clarify so you won't be misunderstood.

    in the past 25 years, 8 finals have ended in exactly 5 games.

    3 finals have ended in a sweep.

    11 out of the past 25 finals have ended in 5 games or less. 44%, short finals happens
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:27 AM ET #52

     As the cleveland fans like to say... Mgm is....

    ALL IN 
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     As the cleveland fans like to say... Mgm is....

    ALL IN 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:28 AM ET #53

    i'm out, you guys enjoy the rest of your night.

    #SeeYouMonday #DubNation

    Warriors win by 15+ 
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    i'm out, you guys enjoy the rest of your night.

    #SeeYouMonday #DubNation

    Warriors win by 15+ 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:29 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by DWeezySF:

    Why is it crazy for series to end in 5? 

    2 of the last 4 finals have ended in 5

    2012 - Heat 5
    2013 - Heat 7
    2014 - Spurs 5
    2015 - Warriors 6


    I'm not saying it's not common....I'm saying we are in a situation that warrants a 7 game series.

    I will be shocked if they let Warriors win game 5. Let's just say that.

    The way I am feeling this, people are crazy to think books are just going to hand them money on a silver platter like that.

    We will see. I don't see it happening and I will BET that it doesn't happen. But we will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWeezySF:

    Why is it crazy for series to end in 5? 

    2 of the last 4 finals have ended in 5

    2012 - Heat 5
    2013 - Heat 7
    2014 - Spurs 5
    2015 - Warriors 6


    I'm not saying it's not common....I'm saying we are in a situation that warrants a 7 game series.

    I will be shocked if they let Warriors win game 5. Let's just say that.

    The way I am feeling this, people are crazy to think books are just going to hand them money on a silver platter like that.

    We will see. I don't see it happening and I will BET that it doesn't happen. But we will see.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:30 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by EastOakland:

     As the cleveland fans like to say... Mgm is....

    ALL IN 

    Actually...you're going to be the one all in when you are chasing dubs come game 7

    I am only betting one unit to win +1800

    Will you guys please stop trying to mislead people?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastOakland:

     As the cleveland fans like to say... Mgm is....

    ALL IN 

    Actually...you're going to be the one all in when you are chasing dubs come game 7

    I am only betting one unit to win +1800

    Will you guys please stop trying to mislead people?!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:36 AM ET #56

    What are the cavs going to do differently? If you know basketball then lets talk. They play all iso ball.. Kyrie and lebron scored all but 38 points and lost by double digits. Warriors are 8-1 in last 9 which means cavs have to adjust not warriors. Problem is cavs cant adjust. What will they do take out jefferson and put in klove. Thats what i think lue does but he should have done that tonight. Problem is klove gets so lost on defense and the warriors are so good at attacking peoples weaknesses. Its a give or take but its not enough to win the game by any stretch. You need lebron and kyrie like tonight but other to score. Their bench is sad and jr smith is sad he isnt a player thats gona light it up that many games. He is what he is. When it comes down to it our late game execution is one of the best anyone has ever seen. Cavs can be up but they have to be up 20 to really be confident. If they are up 5 they are thinking oh garbage here comes warriors. Lebron could score 45 points and they would still lose. He can be more aggresive and just isolation every time and go against iggy but that doesnt mean you will win. You have to have a flawless game to beat warriors in oracle in a big game. You gota hope balls bounce your way as well. If u like cavs u gota hope for scott foster or monty mccutchen to ref this game 5. 
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    What are the cavs going to do differently? If you know basketball then lets talk. They play all iso ball.. Kyrie and lebron scored all but 38 points and lost by double digits. Warriors are 8-1 in last 9 which means cavs have to adjust not warriors. Problem is cavs cant adjust. What will they do take out jefferson and put in klove. Thats what i think lue does but he should have done that tonight. Problem is klove gets so lost on defense and the warriors are so good at attacking peoples weaknesses. Its a give or take but its not enough to win the game by any stretch. You need lebron and kyrie like tonight but other to score. Their bench is sad and jr smith is sad he isnt a player thats gona light it up that many games. He is what he is. When it comes down to it our late game execution is one of the best anyone has ever seen. Cavs can be up but they have to be up 20 to really be confident. If they are up 5 they are thinking oh garbage here comes warriors. Lebron could score 45 points and they would still lose. He can be more aggresive and just isolation every time and go against iggy but that doesnt mean you will win. You have to have a flawless game to beat warriors in oracle in a big game. You gota hope balls bounce your way as well. If u like cavs u gota hope for scott foster or monty mccutchen to ref this game 5. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 1:50 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Actually...you're going to be the one all in when you are chasing dubs come game 7

    I am only betting one unit to win +1800

    Will you guys please stop trying to mislead people?!


    You just dont stop. I already bet 5 units on warriors to win after they won game 6 in okc @-119. I thought after that game the team who won would win the title. Inprobably wont bet at all game 5. Rather just watch and smoke big. I think cavs will show up because everyone counts them out and their entire season is on the line but when it really matters they wont be able to do it. Why keep pooring more and more into pot. U should bet cavs +8 and hope theycover. Honestly i told u i thought cavs would be up at half again  but they cant close in a close game. Kinda mad i didnt bet cavs first half and then just fire on warriors -5 at +195. Or bet the prop it was over +500. Cavs are good enough to be up but not good enough to win. Some people just dont think warriors are that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Actually...you're going to be the one all in when you are chasing dubs come game 7

    I am only betting one unit to win +1800

    Will you guys please stop trying to mislead people?!


    You just dont stop. I already bet 5 units on warriors to win after they won game 6 in okc @-119. I thought after that game the team who won would win the title. Inprobably wont bet at all game 5. Rather just watch and smoke big. I think cavs will show up because everyone counts them out and their entire season is on the line but when it really matters they wont be able to do it. Why keep pooring more and more into pot. U should bet cavs +8 and hope theycover. Honestly i told u i thought cavs would be up at half again  but they cant close in a close game. Kinda mad i didnt bet cavs first half and then just fire on warriors -5 at +195. Or bet the prop it was over +500. Cavs are good enough to be up but not good enough to win. Some people just dont think warriors are that good.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastOakland:

    What are the cavs going to do differently? If you know basketball then lets talk. They play all iso ball.. Kyrie and lebron scored all but 38 points and lost by double digits. Warriors are 8-1 in last 9 which means cavs have to adjust not warriors. Problem is cavs cant adjust. What will they do take out jefferson and put in klove. Thats what i think lue does but he should have done that tonight. Problem is klove gets so lost on defense and the warriors are so good at attacking peoples weaknesses. Its a give or take but its not enough to win the game by any stretch. You need lebron and kyrie like tonight but other to score. Their bench is sad and jr smith is sad he isnt a player thats gona light it up that many games. He is what he is. When it comes down to it our late game execution is one of the best anyone has ever seen. Cavs can be up but they have to be up 20 to really be confident. If they are up 5 they are thinking oh garbage here comes warriors. Lebron could score 45 points and they would still lose. He can be more aggresive and just isolation every time and go against iggy but that doesnt mean you will win. You have to have a flawless game to beat warriors in oracle in a big game. You gota hope balls bounce your way as well. If u like cavs u gota hope for scott foster or monty mccutchen to ref this game 5. 

    You're talkin as if this stuff is all real man. You know I don't believe that. If sports were real, there would be nothing the cavs could hope to do to win the series in any circumstance This is my opinion.. If you wanna speak in terms of the script I think they play better without Love.

    I honestly don't know how they are going to do this without everyone thinking its rigged, but I will make a guess-

    Key Point #1 in the script which would easily turn the tide in the cavs favor...take out the MVP. The best player on the Golden State team. Not only will this help cavs chances of coming back to win, but it will ALSO Serve to make the public think that this ISNT scripted and GS only lost because curry got injured.

    If GS lost this series, without him getting injured, then everyone would think GS had to of thrown the series on purpose. Because people are smart enough to know that GS cannot have 3 bad games in a row. Its just not humanly possible for those guys.

    But people don't tend to think past what they are told and so they likely wont question the injury situation. People like me who can really see into things will know its all fake because what are the chances curry gets hurt at THIS exact time? Come on man. We aren't gullible and we can see that its no coincidence. Of course we are not always right ourselves.

     

    So my KEY POINT #1- Curry gets reinjured game 7

    KEY POINT #2- Cavs win a CLOSE one in Oakland game 5 and the media hypes up "Oh they were due" which is true cavs are due, but not as due as they will make it seem...this is GS we are talking about here...but the close Cavs game 5 win would also bust all GS teasers because of the high spread.

    So they could do those 2 things there, far from impossible and actually highly likely if they are going to script a cavs win, this would keep the public from thinking its rigged as well as give GS a reason to lose, or an excuse to lose

    Of course Lebron can take care of home court game 6 they wont lose 2 in a row at home so Lebron and cavs automatically get game 6....so they just need the one win in Oakland which they are overdue for game 5, then the automatic home win (I know I will get criticized for that statement...but its the truth! Bet it and don't worry about it what I say)

    And now we have ONE game left for cavs to win, to take the series. And this game 7 wont have curry. So the spread will be GS -4 or lower and cavs will come out as winners of the championship. I cant wait to see it.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastOakland:

    What are the cavs going to do differently? If you know basketball then lets talk. They play all iso ball.. Kyrie and lebron scored all but 38 points and lost by double digits. Warriors are 8-1 in last 9 which means cavs have to adjust not warriors. Problem is cavs cant adjust. What will they do take out jefferson and put in klove. Thats what i think lue does but he should have done that tonight. Problem is klove gets so lost on defense and the warriors are so good at attacking peoples weaknesses. Its a give or take but its not enough to win the game by any stretch. You need lebron and kyrie like tonight but other to score. Their bench is sad and jr smith is sad he isnt a player thats gona light it up that many games. He is what he is. When it comes down to it our late game execution is one of the best anyone has ever seen. Cavs can be up but they have to be up 20 to really be confident. If they are up 5 they are thinking oh garbage here comes warriors. Lebron could score 45 points and they would still lose. He can be more aggresive and just isolation every time and go against iggy but that doesnt mean you will win. You have to have a flawless game to beat warriors in oracle in a big game. You gota hope balls bounce your way as well. If u like cavs u gota hope for scott foster or monty mccutchen to ref this game 5. 

    You're talkin as if this stuff is all real man. You know I don't believe that. If sports were real, there would be nothing the cavs could hope to do to win the series in any circumstance This is my opinion.. If you wanna speak in terms of the script I think they play better without Love.

    I honestly don't know how they are going to do this without everyone thinking its rigged, but I will make a guess-

    Key Point #1 in the script which would easily turn the tide in the cavs favor...take out the MVP. The best player on the Golden State team. Not only will this help cavs chances of coming back to win, but it will ALSO Serve to make the public think that this ISNT scripted and GS only lost because curry got injured.

    If GS lost this series, without him getting injured, then everyone would think GS had to of thrown the series on purpose. Because people are smart enough to know that GS cannot have 3 bad games in a row. Its just not humanly possible for those guys.

    But people don't tend to think past what they are told and so they likely wont question the injury situation. People like me who can really see into things will know its all fake because what are the chances curry gets hurt at THIS exact time? Come on man. We aren't gullible and we can see that its no coincidence. Of course we are not always right ourselves.

     

    So my KEY POINT #1- Curry gets reinjured game 7

    KEY POINT #2- Cavs win a CLOSE one in Oakland game 5 and the media hypes up "Oh they were due" which is true cavs are due, but not as due as they will make it seem...this is GS we are talking about here...but the close Cavs game 5 win would also bust all GS teasers because of the high spread.

    So they could do those 2 things there, far from impossible and actually highly likely if they are going to script a cavs win, this would keep the public from thinking its rigged as well as give GS a reason to lose, or an excuse to lose

    Of course Lebron can take care of home court game 6 they wont lose 2 in a row at home so Lebron and cavs automatically get game 6....so they just need the one win in Oakland which they are overdue for game 5, then the automatic home win (I know I will get criticized for that statement...but its the truth! Bet it and don't worry about it what I say)

    And now we have ONE game left for cavs to win, to take the series. And this game 7 wont have curry. So the spread will be GS -4 or lower and cavs will come out as winners of the championship. I cant wait to see it.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastOakland:


    You just dont stop. I already bet 5 units on warriors to win after they won game 6 in okc @-119. I thought after that game the team who won would win the title. Inprobably wont bet at all game 5. Rather just watch and smoke big. I think cavs will show up because everyone counts them out and their entire season is on the line but when it really matters they wont be able to do it. Why keep pooring more and more into pot. U should bet cavs +8 and hope theycover. Honestly i told u i thought cavs would be up at half again  but they cant close in a close game. Kinda mad i didnt bet cavs first half and then just fire on warriors -5 at +195. Or bet the prop it was over +500. Cavs are good enough to be up but not good enough to win. Some people just dont think warriors are that good.

     

    Show me one idiot who thinks that?

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    You just dont stop. I already bet 5 units on warriors to win after they won game 6 in okc @-119. I thought after that game the team who won would win the title. Inprobably wont bet at all game 5. Rather just watch and smoke big. I think cavs will show up because everyone counts them out and their entire season is on the line but when it really matters they wont be able to do it. Why keep pooring more and more into pot. U should bet cavs +8 and hope theycover. Honestly i told u i thought cavs would be up at half again  but they cant close in a close game. Kinda mad i didnt bet cavs first half and then just fire on warriors -5 at +195. Or bet the prop it was over +500. Cavs are good enough to be up but not good enough to win. Some people just dont think warriors are that good.

     

    Show me one idiot who thinks that?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 2:11 AM ET #60

    On another point to help cavs win a game, take Green out

    So we have these little things I think they might be planning on the backburner. Don't count cavs out yet!

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    So we have these little things I think they might be planning on the backburner. Don't count cavs out yet!

     
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    My bad was thinking if curry goes out BEFORE game 7, the spread in game 7 will be -4 or lower for GS

    But I think that if he gets injured it will be late game 6 or early game 7, that would make the most sense to script it that way.

    One of my jobs, as a sports handicapper is to get into the mind's of the books. I read into the lines all the time, and I'm good at it. I was wrong tonight I thought cavs would win but hopefully we close out this year perfect and win our final 3 plays for Cleveland ML every game

    If so, it was fun guys. I hope you all have a great summer

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    My bad was thinking if curry goes out BEFORE game 7, the spread in game 7 will be -4 or lower for GS

    But I think that if he gets injured it will be late game 6 or early game 7, that would make the most sense to script it that way.

    One of my jobs, as a sports handicapper is to get into the mind's of the books. I read into the lines all the time, and I'm good at it. I was wrong tonight I thought cavs would win but hopefully we close out this year perfect and win our final 3 plays for Cleveland ML every game

    If so, it was fun guys. I hope you all have a great summer

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Quote Originally Posted by EastOakland:

     As the cleveland fans like to say... Mgm is....

    ALL IN 

    Will you guys please stop trying to mislead people?!


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     As the cleveland fans like to say... Mgm is....

    ALL IN 

    Will you guys please stop trying to mislead people?!


    Kettle,this is Pot... You're black!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:


    One of my jobs, as a sports handicapper


    Ha! Good one, Spielberg!
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    Ha! Good one, Spielberg!
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