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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 11:17 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:


    i dont get excited if sumone predicts wrong,i do that,you do that and every other man and his dog does so its no big deal picking a loser..........wat stirs people up is stupid,hyperbolic,outlandish comments that surely come with the motive of actually drawing that kind of response.......like team so and so has ZERO chance when they are clearly one of the 5 best teams in the league...and then like a child that wont eat his vegetables ya refuse to budge or back down from a statement that you know is patently preposterous.



    Who cares what people think or what their opinion is?  I think the Cavs have ZERO chance to win the finals....so what?  That upsets you or others?  Why?  It is some strangers on an internet forums opinion...way more important things in life to worry or care about...

    I will never argue with someone who gives their opinion or picks...

    What bothers me, is for example that BostonFLY guy or whatever his username is that is preaching Lebron is the best ever bla bla bla...

    His opinion, thats one thing...but multiple times he has aksked why I disagree and I have said how the East is terrible and has been terrible...and he said how the East is and has been strong bla bla...Well, I showed him last years standing when the #2 seed Cavs would have been then #7 in West and 3 Eas teams were below .500...and he replies with the same nonsense how I cant back up my comments...Well, I show records from last year and he continues his comments...See thats not opinions, thats just a person saying comments to stir the pot

    I still dont get why you and others get so upset over "opinions" but so be it...Cavs have ZERO chance in my opinion...without the NBA clearly fixing it to do so...if they dont...blowout city  
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:


    i dont get excited if sumone predicts wrong,i do that,you do that and every other man and his dog does so its no big deal picking a loser..........wat stirs people up is stupid,hyperbolic,outlandish comments that surely come with the motive of actually drawing that kind of response.......like team so and so has ZERO chance when they are clearly one of the 5 best teams in the league...and then like a child that wont eat his vegetables ya refuse to budge or back down from a statement that you know is patently preposterous.



    Who cares what people think or what their opinion is?  I think the Cavs have ZERO chance to win the finals....so what?  That upsets you or others?  Why?  It is some strangers on an internet forums opinion...way more important things in life to worry or care about...

    I will never argue with someone who gives their opinion or picks...

    What bothers me, is for example that BostonFLY guy or whatever his username is that is preaching Lebron is the best ever bla bla bla...

    His opinion, thats one thing...but multiple times he has aksked why I disagree and I have said how the East is terrible and has been terrible...and he said how the East is and has been strong bla bla...Well, I showed him last years standing when the #2 seed Cavs would have been then #7 in West and 3 Eas teams were below .500...and he replies with the same nonsense how I cant back up my comments...Well, I show records from last year and he continues his comments...See thats not opinions, thats just a person saying comments to stir the pot

    I still dont get why you and others get so upset over "opinions" but so be it...Cavs have ZERO chance in my opinion...without the NBA clearly fixing it to do so...if they dont...blowout city  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 11:55 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



    And Jordans finals record is?

    ANd Lebrons finals record is?

    Thank you 


    are you kidding rite now???is this tennis or golf??

    not,its a flippin TEAM sport,played against other TEAMS......you cant possibly be this simplistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



    And Jordans finals record is?

    ANd Lebrons finals record is?

    Thank you 


    are you kidding rite now???is this tennis or golf??

    not,its a flippin TEAM sport,played against other TEAMS......you cant possibly be this simplistic.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2016 - 12:04 AM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:


    Who cares what people think or what their opinion is?  I think the Cavs have ZERO chance to win the finals....so what?  That upsets you or others?  Why?  It is some strangers on an internet forums opinion...way more important things in life to worry or care about...

    I will never argue with someone who gives their opinion or picks...

    What bothers me, is for example that BostonFLY guy or whatever his username is that is preaching Lebron is the best ever bla bla bla...

    His opinion, thats one thing...but multiple times he has aksked why I disagree and I have said how the East is terrible and has been terrible...and he said how the East is and has been strong bla bla...Well, I showed him last years standing when the #2 seed Cavs would have been then #7 in West and 3 Eas teams were below .500...and he replies with the same nonsense how I cant back up my comments...Well, I show records from last year and he continues his comments...See thats not opinions, thats just a person saying comments to stir the pot

    I still dont get why you and others get so upset over "opinions" but so be it...Cavs have ZERO chance in my opinion...without the NBA clearly fixing it to do so...if they dont...blowout city  


    the thing is that youre not offering an opinion,youre offering maths....horrible,horrible,bad,atrocious maths that even the most optimistic argue-er for the warriors wud find hysterical and way off-base/inaccurate.....unfortunately maths is FACT-based,not opinion based......if you had have said that the warriors(or the west representative) were much,much better than the cavs or even that they were 10 times better then thats one thing...but to give a team no chance in a sports contest played at the top level??....you must not have watched sports before and seen the bizarre stuff that can happen or if you have youve gone and bumped your head and completely forgotten.


    as for boston ftw,well yea hes not opening up a discussion,he is purely trolling and trying to bait people into answering to a ridiculous hypothesis.so dont expect any debate or rational discussion from him.....he's also a pathological liar judging by his past posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:


    Who cares what people think or what their opinion is?  I think the Cavs have ZERO chance to win the finals....so what?  That upsets you or others?  Why?  It is some strangers on an internet forums opinion...way more important things in life to worry or care about...

    I will never argue with someone who gives their opinion or picks...

    What bothers me, is for example that BostonFLY guy or whatever his username is that is preaching Lebron is the best ever bla bla bla...

    His opinion, thats one thing...but multiple times he has aksked why I disagree and I have said how the East is terrible and has been terrible...and he said how the East is and has been strong bla bla...Well, I showed him last years standing when the #2 seed Cavs would have been then #7 in West and 3 Eas teams were below .500...and he replies with the same nonsense how I cant back up my comments...Well, I show records from last year and he continues his comments...See thats not opinions, thats just a person saying comments to stir the pot

    I still dont get why you and others get so upset over "opinions" but so be it...Cavs have ZERO chance in my opinion...without the NBA clearly fixing it to do so...if they dont...blowout city  


    the thing is that youre not offering an opinion,youre offering maths....horrible,horrible,bad,atrocious maths that even the most optimistic argue-er for the warriors wud find hysterical and way off-base/inaccurate.....unfortunately maths is FACT-based,not opinion based......if you had have said that the warriors(or the west representative) were much,much better than the cavs or even that they were 10 times better then thats one thing...but to give a team no chance in a sports contest played at the top level??....you must not have watched sports before and seen the bizarre stuff that can happen or if you have youve gone and bumped your head and completely forgotten.


    as for boston ftw,well yea hes not opening up a discussion,he is purely trolling and trying to bait people into answering to a ridiculous hypothesis.so dont expect any debate or rational discussion from him.....he's also a pathological liar judging by his past posts.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2016 - 12:41 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



    And Jordans finals record is?

    ANd Lebrons finals record is?

    Thank you 

    Thats what it turns into when you have nothing else to say on the topic... Sorry you got schooled!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



    And Jordans finals record is?

    ANd Lebrons finals record is?

    Thank you 

    Thats what it turns into when you have nothing else to say on the topic... Sorry you got schooled!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2016 - 9:53 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:



    are you kidding rite now???is this tennis or golf??

    not,its a flippin TEAM sport,played against other TEAMS......you cant possibly be this simplistic.

    This has been an entertaining thread if nothing else. 

    I'm glad someone finally said this about using team objectives when measuring individual performances. I find it annoying when people do that. 

    Unless you're ready to admit that Robert Horry was a better basketball player than Michael Jordan (which of course he wasn't), or admit that Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Dan Marino (not even close), then stop using titles as the main criteria for an argument. 

    I'm not sure which measure should be used, but I definitely know that using titles as the sole, or main, criteria when evaluating individual players is flawed. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:



    are you kidding rite now???is this tennis or golf??

    not,its a flippin TEAM sport,played against other TEAMS......you cant possibly be this simplistic.

    This has been an entertaining thread if nothing else. 

    I'm glad someone finally said this about using team objectives when measuring individual performances. I find it annoying when people do that. 

    Unless you're ready to admit that Robert Horry was a better basketball player than Michael Jordan (which of course he wasn't), or admit that Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Dan Marino (not even close), then stop using titles as the main criteria for an argument. 

    I'm not sure which measure should be used, but I definitely know that using titles as the sole, or main, criteria when evaluating individual players is flawed. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 6:55 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by TheluckyDC:


    Thats what it turns into when you have nothing else to say on the topic... Sorry you got schooled!


    I got schooled?

    You, and many others, made the comment how its not fair to talk about the Cavs, or Lebron, and how awful the East is now and how that takes away from his "greatness" because the East has no competition...and how much tougher the West is

    You then said, how nobody talks about how "easy" it was for Jordan because when he played the East was weaker and the West was "much" stronger....

    So, if the West was so much stronger when Jordan was playing, why did he never lose in the finals?  Weird huh
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    Thats what it turns into when you have nothing else to say on the topic... Sorry you got schooled!


    I got schooled?

    You, and many others, made the comment how its not fair to talk about the Cavs, or Lebron, and how awful the East is now and how that takes away from his "greatness" because the East has no competition...and how much tougher the West is

    You then said, how nobody talks about how "easy" it was for Jordan because when he played the East was weaker and the West was "much" stronger....

    So, if the West was so much stronger when Jordan was playing, why did he never lose in the finals?  Weird huh
     
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    ladies and gents,if you wanna know wat the prototypical square covers member looks like then look no further than the author of this thread.....cant remember a damn thing before the last game he saw that happened,over-exaggerates wildly,and believes everything the lame as.s media trots out.

    this is the same dude thinking that the panthers wud romp home in the superbowl(i dont even watch football and i bet the broncos),and the same dude that "wasnt impressed"with wat lebron did in last years finals.

    it dont get no better than this.....4 or 5 separate ocassions ive asked him to reconsider his ridiculous assertion that the cavs have "ZERO" chance to win the title this year.....but hey,he knows better,right??

    im pretty certain maths aint his strongest point.


    anyone looking for top notch super square fades in the future bookmark this dudes profile and cash in..
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    ladies and gents,if you wanna know wat the prototypical square covers member looks like then look no further than the author of this thread.....cant remember a damn thing before the last game he saw that happened,over-exaggerates wildly,and believes everything the lame as.s media trots out.

    this is the same dude thinking that the panthers wud romp home in the superbowl(i dont even watch football and i bet the broncos),and the same dude that "wasnt impressed"with wat lebron did in last years finals.

    it dont get no better than this.....4 or 5 separate ocassions ive asked him to reconsider his ridiculous assertion that the cavs have "ZERO" chance to win the title this year.....but hey,he knows better,right??

    im pretty certain maths aint his strongest point.


    anyone looking for top notch super square fades in the future bookmark this dudes profile and cash in..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    ladies and gents,if you wanna know wat the prototypical square covers member looks like then look no further than the author of this thread.....cant remember a damn thing before the last game he saw that happened,over-exaggerates wildly,and believes everything the lame as.s media trots out.

    this is the same dude thinking that the panthers wud romp home in the superbowl(i dont even watch football and i bet the broncos),and the same dude that "wasnt impressed"with wat lebron did in last years finals.

    it dont get no better than this.....4 or 5 separate ocassions ive asked him to reconsider his ridiculous assertion that the cavs have "ZERO" chance to win the title this year.....but hey,he knows better,right??

    im pretty certain maths aint his strongest point.


    anyone looking for top notch super square fades in the future bookmark this dudes profile and cash in..


    Ha ha, what a moron you are!!  

    Oh my god!!  My prediction and opinion was wrong!!!  HOLY COW!!! END THE WORLD!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!  SOMEONE WAS WRONG!!!   WHAT A MORON 

    Im still not impressed, nor has my opinion changed  Cavs were handed the series after 3-1 to get to game 7, and played better tonight.  In fact, the only thing that changed was how good GS actually is.  

    As for your comment avout my bad plays.  You obviously havent followed me long on this site.  Any time you feel like doing a challange heads up...lets talk...$500 a game tough guy.

    ANd, finally, for my "maths aint my strongest point"....Education, English and grammar obviously aint your strongest points...

    Cavs STILL arent that good, the East is still garbage, and the NBA is the most corrupt league
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    ladies and gents,if you wanna know wat the prototypical square covers member looks like then look no further than the author of this thread.....cant remember a damn thing before the last game he saw that happened,over-exaggerates wildly,and believes everything the lame as.s media trots out.

    this is the same dude thinking that the panthers wud romp home in the superbowl(i dont even watch football and i bet the broncos),and the same dude that "wasnt impressed"with wat lebron did in last years finals.

    it dont get no better than this.....4 or 5 separate ocassions ive asked him to reconsider his ridiculous assertion that the cavs have "ZERO" chance to win the title this year.....but hey,he knows better,right??

    im pretty certain maths aint his strongest point.


    anyone looking for top notch super square fades in the future bookmark this dudes profile and cash in..


    Ha ha, what a moron you are!!  

    Oh my god!!  My prediction and opinion was wrong!!!  HOLY COW!!! END THE WORLD!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!  SOMEONE WAS WRONG!!!   WHAT A MORON 

    Im still not impressed, nor has my opinion changed  Cavs were handed the series after 3-1 to get to game 7, and played better tonight.  In fact, the only thing that changed was how good GS actually is.  

    As for your comment avout my bad plays.  You obviously havent followed me long on this site.  Any time you feel like doing a challange heads up...lets talk...$500 a game tough guy.

    ANd, finally, for my "maths aint my strongest point"....Education, English and grammar obviously aint your strongest points...

    Cavs STILL arent that good, the East is still garbage, and the NBA is the most corrupt league
     
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    your square pack. i been following your dumb calls since the giants beat the packers, im still around to remind you about your stupid assertion that the giants didnt beat the packers, the packers blew it. well the giants won the superbowl that year, & here we are again, & your spongebob squareplay stunk it up again.

    your the biggest loser on this website, hands down.

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    your square pack. i been following your dumb calls since the giants beat the packers, im still around to remind you about your stupid assertion that the giants didnt beat the packers, the packers blew it. well the giants won the superbowl that year, & here we are again, & your spongebob squareplay stunk it up again.

    your the biggest loser on this website, hands down.

     
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    LBJ Career Stats (per game): 27.2 pts., 6.9 assists, 7.2 rebs, 1.7 steals, .498 fg%
    MJ Career Stats (per game): 30.1 pts., 5.3 assists, 6.2 rebs, 2.3 steals, .497 fg%
    Reg Season Win %:
    LBJ: 0.651
    MJ: 0.587

    Eastern Conference Playoffs Opponent Win %

    LBJ: 0.595
    MJ: 0.633

    *Although it should be noted that MJ's teams finished as the 6 seed or worse 4 times (getting bounced in the 1st round 3 of those 4 times) resulting in a higher opponent win % in playoffs due to facing top 3 seeds in first round while LBJ has been the higher seed every time he has been to the playoffs not finishing below the 4 seed.

    NBA Finals Opponent Win %:

    LBJ: 0.755
    MJ: 0.746

    LBJ is 31 this season, he has been to 7 NBA finals, including 6 in a row. He has 3 NBA championships. He has 4 NBA MVP Awards, 3 finals MVP Awards and is number 1 in NBA history in Value Over Replacement Player (Jordan is #2). 
    MJ at 31 had 3 championships, 3 finals appearances, 3 NBA MVP Awards, 3 Finals MVP Awards
    One could argue that after LBJ won this finals (beating the best team in NBA history (win %)) then he would indeed be more accomplished in his career to this point than MJ was at the same juncture with regard to age.

    BTW MJ went 1-11 in playoff games without Scottie Pippen
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    LBJ Career Stats (per game): 27.2 pts., 6.9 assists, 7.2 rebs, 1.7 steals, .498 fg%
    MJ Career Stats (per game): 30.1 pts., 5.3 assists, 6.2 rebs, 2.3 steals, .497 fg%
    Reg Season Win %:
    LBJ: 0.651
    MJ: 0.587

    Eastern Conference Playoffs Opponent Win %

    LBJ: 0.595
    MJ: 0.633

    *Although it should be noted that MJ's teams finished as the 6 seed or worse 4 times (getting bounced in the 1st round 3 of those 4 times) resulting in a higher opponent win % in playoffs due to facing top 3 seeds in first round while LBJ has been the higher seed every time he has been to the playoffs not finishing below the 4 seed.

    NBA Finals Opponent Win %:

    LBJ: 0.755
    MJ: 0.746

    LBJ is 31 this season, he has been to 7 NBA finals, including 6 in a row. He has 3 NBA championships. He has 4 NBA MVP Awards, 3 finals MVP Awards and is number 1 in NBA history in Value Over Replacement Player (Jordan is #2). 
    MJ at 31 had 3 championships, 3 finals appearances, 3 NBA MVP Awards, 3 Finals MVP Awards
    One could argue that after LBJ won this finals (beating the best team in NBA history (win %)) then he would indeed be more accomplished in his career to this point than MJ was at the same juncture with regard to age.

    BTW MJ went 1-11 in playoff games without Scottie Pippen
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



    Ha ha, what a moron you are!!  

    Oh my god!!  My prediction and opinion was wrong!!!  HOLY COW!!! END THE WORLD!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!  SOMEONE WAS WRONG!!!   WHAT A MORON 

    Im still not impressed, nor has my opinion changed  Cavs were handed the series after 3-1 to get to game 7, and played better tonight.  In fact, the only thing that changed was how good GS actually is.  

    As for your comment avout my bad plays.  You obviously havent followed me long on this site.  Any time you feel like doing a challange heads up...lets talk...$500 a game tough guy.

    ANd, finally, for my "maths aint my strongest point"....Education, English and grammar obviously aint your strongest points...

    Cavs STILL arent that good, the East is still garbage, and the NBA is the most corrupt league







    hahahahahaha,ya 


    cant 




    make



    this 



    stuff





    up!!!




    the fu.kken douche is proven completely and utterly wrong and made to look like a flippin brain-dead imbecile..............AND YET HE STILL CLAIMS HE IS RIGHT!!!!!.......





    wat the??????"im still not impressed"....




    hahahaha,ya cant make this stuff up....are you real???....is this real life??

    are there others as dumb as you in the world???....bahahaha



    we're not talking about a difference of opinion,you blowhard...like i said,I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH ANYONE GETTING A PREDICTION WRONG....we all do it hundreds of times a year if we are gambling regularly.


    its your math that has to be seriously questioned,you top notch tool...you gave a team NO chance...one of the best 5 teams in the league you gave no chance...not 1%,not 2%,not even 5% (which still wud have been laughable),but ZERO %.......and i asked you multiple times to recant it as it makes you look like an as.s or sumone just begging for attention by saying silly things........and still,after this happened,youre still to dumb to take it back.


    bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha



    cannot make it up.
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    Ha ha, what a moron you are!!  

    Oh my god!!  My prediction and opinion was wrong!!!  HOLY COW!!! END THE WORLD!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!  SOMEONE WAS WRONG!!!   WHAT A MORON 

    Im still not impressed, nor has my opinion changed  Cavs were handed the series after 3-1 to get to game 7, and played better tonight.  In fact, the only thing that changed was how good GS actually is.  

    As for your comment avout my bad plays.  You obviously havent followed me long on this site.  Any time you feel like doing a challange heads up...lets talk...$500 a game tough guy.

    ANd, finally, for my "maths aint my strongest point"....Education, English and grammar obviously aint your strongest points...

    Cavs STILL arent that good, the East is still garbage, and the NBA is the most corrupt league







    hahahahahaha,ya 


    cant 




    make



    this 



    stuff





    up!!!




    the fu.kken douche is proven completely and utterly wrong and made to look like a flippin brain-dead imbecile..............AND YET HE STILL CLAIMS HE IS RIGHT!!!!!.......





    wat the??????"im still not impressed"....




    hahahaha,ya cant make this stuff up....are you real???....is this real life??

    are there others as dumb as you in the world???....bahahaha



    we're not talking about a difference of opinion,you blowhard...like i said,I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH ANYONE GETTING A PREDICTION WRONG....we all do it hundreds of times a year if we are gambling regularly.


    its your math that has to be seriously questioned,you top notch tool...you gave a team NO chance...one of the best 5 teams in the league you gave no chance...not 1%,not 2%,not even 5% (which still wud have been laughable),but ZERO %.......and i asked you multiple times to recant it as it makes you look like an as.s or sumone just begging for attention by saying silly things........and still,after this happened,youre still to dumb to take it back.


    bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha



    cannot make it up.
     
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    and no im not going to enter into any "dic.k-swinging" challenge with you so you can try and boost your ego and make yourself better about this atrocious piece of misjudgment......as a gambler i am no better than average and wudnt back myself to beat many...even you...

    hard enuff beating the books,dont need to beat sumone else on top of it.
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    and no im not going to enter into any "dic.k-swinging" challenge with you so you can try and boost your ego and make yourself better about this atrocious piece of misjudgment......as a gambler i am no better than average and wudnt back myself to beat many...even you...

    hard enuff beating the books,dont need to beat sumone else on top of it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshfactor:

    your square pack. i been following your dumb calls since the giants beat the packers, im still around to remind you about your stupid assertion that the giants didnt beat the packers, the packers blew it. well the giants won the superbowl that year, & here we are again, & your spongebob squareplay stunk it up again.

    your the biggest loser on this website, hands down.



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    your square pack. i been following your dumb calls since the giants beat the packers, im still around to remind you about your stupid assertion that the giants didnt beat the packers, the packers blew it. well the giants won the superbowl that year, & here we are again, & your spongebob squareplay stunk it up again.

    your the biggest loser on this website, hands down.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheluckyDC:

    LBJ Career Stats (per game): 27.2 pts., 6.9 assists, 7.2 rebs, 1.7 steals, .498 fg%
    MJ Career Stats (per game): 30.1 pts., 5.3 assists, 6.2 rebs, 2.3 steals, .497 fg%
    Reg Season Win %:
    LBJ: 0.651
    MJ: 0.587

    Eastern Conference Playoffs Opponent Win %

    LBJ: 0.595
    MJ: 0.633

    *Although it should be noted that MJ's teams finished as the 6 seed or worse 4 times (getting bounced in the 1st round 3 of those 4 times) resulting in a higher opponent win % in playoffs due to facing top 3 seeds in first round while LBJ has been the higher seed every time he has been to the playoffs not finishing below the 4 seed.

    NBA Finals Opponent Win %:

    LBJ: 0.755
    MJ: 0.746

    LBJ is 31 this season, he has been to 7 NBA finals, including 6 in a row. He has 3 NBA championships. He has 4 NBA MVP Awards, 3 finals MVP Awards and is number 1 in NBA history in Value Over Replacement Player (Jordan is #2). 
    MJ at 31 had 3 championships, 3 finals appearances, 3 NBA MVP Awards, 3 Finals MVP Awards
    One could argue that after LBJ won this finals (beating the best team in NBA history (win %)) then he would indeed be more accomplished in his career to this point than MJ was at the same juncture with regard to age.

    BTW MJ went 1-11 in playoff games without Scottie Pippen


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    LBJ Career Stats (per game): 27.2 pts., 6.9 assists, 7.2 rebs, 1.7 steals, .498 fg%
    MJ Career Stats (per game): 30.1 pts., 5.3 assists, 6.2 rebs, 2.3 steals, .497 fg%
    Reg Season Win %:
    LBJ: 0.651
    MJ: 0.587

    Eastern Conference Playoffs Opponent Win %

    LBJ: 0.595
    MJ: 0.633

    *Although it should be noted that MJ's teams finished as the 6 seed or worse 4 times (getting bounced in the 1st round 3 of those 4 times) resulting in a higher opponent win % in playoffs due to facing top 3 seeds in first round while LBJ has been the higher seed every time he has been to the playoffs not finishing below the 4 seed.

    NBA Finals Opponent Win %:

    LBJ: 0.755
    MJ: 0.746

    LBJ is 31 this season, he has been to 7 NBA finals, including 6 in a row. He has 3 NBA championships. He has 4 NBA MVP Awards, 3 finals MVP Awards and is number 1 in NBA history in Value Over Replacement Player (Jordan is #2). 
    MJ at 31 had 3 championships, 3 finals appearances, 3 NBA MVP Awards, 3 Finals MVP Awards
    One could argue that after LBJ won this finals (beating the best team in NBA history (win %)) then he would indeed be more accomplished in his career to this point than MJ was at the same juncture with regard to age.

    BTW MJ went 1-11 in playoff games without Scottie Pippen


     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^.....hold up,hold up,hold up.......keep your fancy numbers and facts to yourself,buddy....i just consulted with letgopack 1234 and he informed me that there is ZERO chance that lebron will ever win more titles than,or be considered better than jordan.....so thats the end ot that....well and truly settled...
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^.....hold up,hold up,hold up.......keep your fancy numbers and facts to yourself,buddy....i just consulted with letgopack 1234 and he informed me that there is ZERO chance that lebron will ever win more titles than,or be considered better than jordan.....so thats the end ot that....well and truly settled...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2016 - 11:25 AM ET #93

    Didnt realize the OP made this. Just like all his moronic NFL threads... just ignore everything
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    Didnt realize the OP made this. Just like all his moronic NFL threads... just ignore everything
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2016 - 9:07 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Maybe next year Lebron 


    Maybe bring Melo and C Paul to Clev 






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    Maybe next year Lebron 


    Maybe bring Melo and C Paul to Clev 






     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    MELOSSINGIT-----now do you understand why I kept saying during the season why the CAVS had ZERO chance to win it all??

    Because NO team from the East has a chance...its the little league vs the big leagues....

    5 teams from the West would win it before Clev 



    yes,i understand fully now.....thank you for the education,oh great one...













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    MELOSSINGIT-----now do you understand why I kept saying during the season why the CAVS had ZERO chance to win it all??

    Because NO team from the East has a chance...its the little league vs the big leagues....

    5 teams from the West would win it before Clev 



    yes,i understand fully now.....thank you for the education,oh great one...













     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:





    i do agree in leaning towards the warriors getting the job done in game 7.

    but,oh boy this will be my favourite thead IN HISTORY if they dont....seriously,your stupidity knows no bounds...ignorance and stubborn-ness go hand in hand...wat possible excuse will you have if the warriors do stumble??...youve already come up with a whole fu.kken laundry list about cavs in the weaker conference getting a free ride,the league wanting a longer series,draymond getting suspended,crooked officiating....every time sumthing doesnt go the way you expect it you trot out another lame as.s excuse and try to play it cool like"nothing to see here,we got this".....fact is,its down to one game for all the marbles,the cavs have given warriors all they can handle over 6 games and you are the one that proclaimed that cleveland has ZERO chance of winning the title.........its truly impossible to believe youre not sitting there feeling extremely stupid about that assessment......if youre not then youre even stupider still.

    if anyone else had made that wild claim that you did and was still ignorantly holding onto that view,given the way the series sits,wud you be laughing hysterically at them??

    again,i think it may be a bridge a little bit too far for the cavs....but my fingers and toes are crossed...gonna be sum fun times up in here if not.

    [/Quote


    First of all, its comical how you and others in here get "so excited" if someone is wrong on their predictions/picks/opinions....sad lives you all live 

    Second of all...I have no changed from my thought on the Cavs or finals or winner since the middle of the year...I said Cavs have NO chance and GS wins in 5...I said that up until the time Green was suspended...I then before game 5 said its obvious the NBA wants 7 games

    GS will win by 10+ 


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    i do agree in leaning towards the warriors getting the job done in game 7.

    but,oh boy this will be my favourite thead IN HISTORY if they dont....seriously,your stupidity knows no bounds...ignorance and stubborn-ness go hand in hand...wat possible excuse will you have if the warriors do stumble??...youve already come up with a whole fu.kken laundry list about cavs in the weaker conference getting a free ride,the league wanting a longer series,draymond getting suspended,crooked officiating....every time sumthing doesnt go the way you expect it you trot out another lame as.s excuse and try to play it cool like"nothing to see here,we got this".....fact is,its down to one game for all the marbles,the cavs have given warriors all they can handle over 6 games and you are the one that proclaimed that cleveland has ZERO chance of winning the title.........its truly impossible to believe youre not sitting there feeling extremely stupid about that assessment......if youre not then youre even stupider still.

    if anyone else had made that wild claim that you did and was still ignorantly holding onto that view,given the way the series sits,wud you be laughing hysterically at them??

    again,i think it may be a bridge a little bit too far for the cavs....but my fingers and toes are crossed...gonna be sum fun times up in here if not.

    [/Quote


    First of all, its comical how you and others in here get "so excited" if someone is wrong on their predictions/picks/opinions....sad lives you all live 

    Second of all...I have no changed from my thought on the Cavs or finals or winner since the middle of the year...I said Cavs have NO chance and GS wins in 5...I said that up until the time Green was suspended...I then before game 5 said its obvious the NBA wants 7 games

    GS will win by 10+ 


     
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    Melossinglet----

    Holy Christ man...do you have a life??  How many times do you post on covers.com a day??  You bump every thread

    Guess what?  I was wrong, my prediction and opinion was wrong....Guess What?  I dont care

    I still dont think the Cavs are good, and if they play in the West my opinion doesnt change.  They played 3 good games after the NBA suspended Green or the series was over.

    Fact is, They would have to play 4 series like that during the playoffs instead of just once a year because the East is so pathetic.  They played a great game 7 and GS played a poor one.  Thats life.  

    The East is still the worst conf in all of professional sports.

    Bump away man, I dont lose sleep over gambling forums talking with strangers 

    The East is garbage, Cavs arent that good, and NBA helped them win  But they did play a great game 7....

    Bump away loser...you post on the site every 15 minutes 

    The NBA season is over
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    Holy Christ man...do you have a life??  How many times do you post on covers.com a day??  You bump every thread

    Guess what?  I was wrong, my prediction and opinion was wrong....Guess What?  I dont care

    I still dont think the Cavs are good, and if they play in the West my opinion doesnt change.  They played 3 good games after the NBA suspended Green or the series was over.

    Fact is, They would have to play 4 series like that during the playoffs instead of just once a year because the East is so pathetic.  They played a great game 7 and GS played a poor one.  Thats life.  

    The East is still the worst conf in all of professional sports.

    Bump away man, I dont lose sleep over gambling forums talking with strangers 

    The East is garbage, Cavs arent that good, and NBA helped them win  But they did play a great game 7....

    Bump away loser...you post on the site every 15 minutes 

    The NBA season is over
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Melossinglet----

    Holy Christ man...do you have a life??  How many times do you post on covers.com a day??  You bump every thread

    Guess what?  I was wrong, my prediction and opinion was wrong....Guess What?  I dont care

    I still dont think the Cavs are good, and if they play in the West my opinion doesnt change.  They played 3 good games after the NBA suspended Green or the series was over.

    Fact is, They would have to play 4 series like that during the playoffs instead of just once a year because the East is so pathetic.  They played a great game 7 and GS played a poor one.  Thats life.  

    The East is still the worst conf in all of professional sports.

    Bump away man, I dont lose sleep over gambling forums talking with strangers 

    The East is garbage, Cavs arent that good, and NBA helped them win  But they did play a great game 7....

    Bump away loser...you post on the site every 15 minutes 

    The NBA season is over



    ....nba champions(with one of the greatest players of all time)......."arent that good"!!!!!





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    Melossinglet----

    Holy Christ man...do you have a life??  How many times do you post on covers.com a day??  You bump every thread

    Guess what?  I was wrong, my prediction and opinion was wrong....Guess What?  I dont care

    I still dont think the Cavs are good, and if they play in the West my opinion doesnt change.  They played 3 good games after the NBA suspended Green or the series was over.

    Fact is, They would have to play 4 series like that during the playoffs instead of just once a year because the East is so pathetic.  They played a great game 7 and GS played a poor one.  Thats life.  

    The East is still the worst conf in all of professional sports.

    Bump away man, I dont lose sleep over gambling forums talking with strangers 

    The East is garbage, Cavs arent that good, and NBA helped them win  But they did play a great game 7....

    Bump away loser...you post on the site every 15 minutes 

    The NBA season is over



    ....nba champions(with one of the greatest players of all time)......."arent that good"!!!!!





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