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    Here's a writer who had enough courage to write SOMETHING about the Utah/Denver over 209 fix

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    MrBator
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:20 AM ET #1

    Here'a  guy who's basically saying he thought the game was fixed without actually flat out saying it.  He covers himself legally in the very first sentence, but then he gets into it.  Too bad no one at ESPN.com or FoxSports.com would ever have the balls to write something like this the day after.  I'm glad Thursday night's farce in Denver wasn't completely ignored, anyway.
     
     
     
     https://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/d-wil/2009/04/03/the-anatomy-of-a-fishy-nba-game-how-the-fix-might-go-down/
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    Here'a  guy who's basically saying he thought the game was fixed without actually flat out saying it.  He covers himself legally in the very first sentence, but then he gets into it.  Too bad no one at ESPN.com or FoxSports.com would ever have the balls to write something like this the day after.  I'm glad Thursday night's farce in Denver wasn't completely ignored, anyway.
     
     
     
     https://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/d-wil/2009/04/03/the-anatomy-of-a-fishy-nba-game-how-the-fix-might-go-down/
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:24 AM ET #2

    Damn there's a lot too it but what a good read. 
     
    Way to back up what you were speaking on. 
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    Damn there's a lot too it but what a good read. 
     
    Way to back up what you were speaking on. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:27 AM ET #3

    Bator you lost on a fixed game. Yeah It sucks but it's time to move on.
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    Bator you lost on a fixed game. Yeah It sucks but it's time to move on.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:28 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate:

    Damn there's a lot too it but what a good read. 
     
    Way to back up what you were speaking on. 

    What he said. That's why if you bet money you can't afford to lose, you will die a young death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate:

    Damn there's a lot too it but what a good read. 
     
    Way to back up what you were speaking on. 

    What he said. That's why if you bet money you can't afford to lose, you will die a young death.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:31 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    Bator you lost on a fixed game. Yeah It sucks but it's time to move on.

     

     

    That attitude is what allows these things to go completely unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    Bator you lost on a fixed game. Yeah It sucks but it's time to move on.

     

     

    That attitude is what allows these things to go completely unchecked.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:34 AM ET #6

    hmmmmmm
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    hmmmmmm
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:37 AM ET #7

    there is nothing that we could do about it.. it just sucks
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    there is nothing that we could do about it.. it just sucks
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:38 AM ET #8

    Bravo to this writer.
     
    How do people think games could not be fixed?
     
    Breeders cup MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ...fixed
     
    Poker on line MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ...fixed
     
    NCAA hoops ...fixed
     
    Soccer tennis etc etc world wide all have been  FIXED
     
    NBA WAS FIXED FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!
     
    Yet to say a game could have been fixed now is so preposterous?
     
    My favorite part of this whole incident is a guy making fun of you bator buys points every day in the NBA
     
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    Bravo to this writer.
     
    How do people think games could not be fixed?
     
    Breeders cup MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ...fixed
     
    Poker on line MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ...fixed
     
    NCAA hoops ...fixed
     
    Soccer tennis etc etc world wide all have been  FIXED
     
    NBA WAS FIXED FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!
     
    Yet to say a game could have been fixed now is so preposterous?
     
    My favorite part of this whole incident is a guy making fun of you bator buys points every day in the NBA
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:39 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    Bator you lost on a fixed game. Yeah It sucks but it's time to move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    Bator you lost on a fixed game. Yeah It sucks but it's time to move on.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:41 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That attitude is what allows these things to go completely unchecked.

    So what are you going to do ?  Write your congressman and see if he can have Vegas give you your money back ? Did they return everyone's money that lost on the Donaghy reffed games ? Hell no.

    Betting on sports is an option in life not mandatory. No one should give a shit if someone dumped there life savings on Sports Betting. No one put a gun to your head and made you do it. You shouldn't be gambling if you can't afford to lose.Take some self responsibility in life.

    The Government has more important things to do like fix the economy instead of worry about some degenerate who was dumb enough to lose his life savings betting on a game that had some questionable calls. There is a reason it's called gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That attitude is what allows these things to go completely unchecked.

    So what are you going to do ?  Write your congressman and see if he can have Vegas give you your money back ? Did they return everyone's money that lost on the Donaghy reffed games ? Hell no.

    Betting on sports is an option in life not mandatory. No one should give a shit if someone dumped there life savings on Sports Betting. No one put a gun to your head and made you do it. You shouldn't be gambling if you can't afford to lose.Take some self responsibility in life.

    The Government has more important things to do like fix the economy instead of worry about some degenerate who was dumb enough to lose his life savings betting on a game that had some questionable calls. There is a reason it's called gambling.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:43 AM ET #11

    We all have been on the wrong side of "the fix" and every now and then we land on the right side. Bator..sorry it happened to you and I had no play on the over line but sorry about your loss man. BOL to you on all your picks! Don't let it eat at you man..like nbafan88 said "it just sucks!
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    We all have been on the wrong side of "the fix" and every now and then we land on the right side. Bator..sorry it happened to you and I had no play on the over line but sorry about your loss man. BOL to you on all your picks! Don't let it eat at you man..like nbafan88 said "it just sucks!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:49 AM ET #12

    i think you guys are taking his comments the wrong way.. i personally don't care that I lost the bet.. this is just really bad for the integrity of the game.
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    i think you guys are taking his comments the wrong way.. i personally don't care that I lost the bet.. this is just really bad for the integrity of the game.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:49 AM ET #13

    Bator coe on bro this guy is almost as bad as u were in your thread this morning there was no fix last night bro.  Back when we were knocking off at better than 60% a year ago u did not ever cry fix.  All of a sudden the refs fixed the game?   I ask u since we both know we know the game but at half time do the coaches ask the refs to start looking for fouls that are not being called?????  Yes.  Maybe the players told the coaches the rough play ws getting to them and as stated this morning I know u remember the fight these teams had in the Pepsi Center not too long ago.  Maybe the coaches stepped up and let the refs know about the refs that the rough play was getting to the players?  The game was not fixed.  I ask u w/ baseball starting on Sunday if a pitcher hits a batter are they allowed to continue to throw inside and hit other batters no and thusfore doesn't it make an over between 2 teams where this had occured the night before a safe play. Yes cause the pitchers can't throw inside w/o being tossed if they hit someone.  Let it go u have made much more than u lost and to say this is a fix and trying to back up your case u are over looking some of your wins might have been fixed as well, are you willing to give your bookie back your money????
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    Bator coe on bro this guy is almost as bad as u were in your thread this morning there was no fix last night bro.  Back when we were knocking off at better than 60% a year ago u did not ever cry fix.  All of a sudden the refs fixed the game?   I ask u since we both know we know the game but at half time do the coaches ask the refs to start looking for fouls that are not being called?????  Yes.  Maybe the players told the coaches the rough play ws getting to them and as stated this morning I know u remember the fight these teams had in the Pepsi Center not too long ago.  Maybe the coaches stepped up and let the refs know about the refs that the rough play was getting to the players?  The game was not fixed.  I ask u w/ baseball starting on Sunday if a pitcher hits a batter are they allowed to continue to throw inside and hit other batters no and thusfore doesn't it make an over between 2 teams where this had occured the night before a safe play. Yes cause the pitchers can't throw inside w/o being tossed if they hit someone.  Let it go u have made much more than u lost and to say this is a fix and trying to back up your case u are over looking some of your wins might have been fixed as well, are you willing to give your bookie back your money????
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:53 AM ET #14

    well written
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    well written
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:55 AM ET #15

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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:55 AM ET #16

    okay so whats the play ny or toronto?
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    okay so whats the play ny or toronto?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 12:58 AM ET #17

    It's a fact of life anytime there is shit loads of money involved there will be corruption. Greed is the root of all evil.  I wish I was the guy that invented Powerball lottery. On a 400 million dollar jack pot that was suppose to be 410 million. Whose ever going to miss that 10 million or know it was suppose to be 410 million. That's the greatest scam going.
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    It's a fact of life anytime there is shit loads of money involved there will be corruption. Greed is the root of all evil.  I wish I was the guy that invented Powerball lottery. On a 400 million dollar jack pot that was suppose to be 410 million. Whose ever going to miss that 10 million or know it was suppose to be 410 million. That's the greatest scam going.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 1:01 AM ET #18

    perfect way to expose the refs w/o actually calling them out and getting sued or whatever.
     
    I did not watch nor have action on this game but after reading the article I see why you started your other thread
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    perfect way to expose the refs w/o actually calling them out and getting sued or whatever.
     
    I did not watch nor have action on this game but after reading the article I see why you started your other thread
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2009 - 1:07 AM ET #19

    posted this in your other thread...moved to the penalty box...for.......what reason? anyone? ......anyone???
    QUOTE Originally Posted by MrBator:

    https://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/d-wil/2009/04/03/the-anatomy-of-a-fishy-nba-game-how-the-fix-might-go-down/
     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here we go.  This writer is basically SAYING IT without saying it.  He covers himself legally in the very first sentence, but after that, he carefully outlines the Obvious Fix that most of us watched last night.

    That was an excellent article. Basically breaks down the 10 pages of this thread in a couple paragraphs. Completely validates everything you are saying. Boys and Girls, the internet article is the modern day newspaper so that website reference is as good as the front page of the sports section in a Denver/Utah printed periodical.

    I'm still amazed the some buffoonish NBA fans still write "Bator wins...rah rah rah shish boom bah :::pom poms shake:::...and Bator loses....He crys FIX!"

    This is after a referee in the NBA was sentenced to 15 MONTHS IN PRISON for FIXING GAMES!!!! Forgotten? Disregarded? Then that same man, under threat of perjury (i.e. more prison time, embarrassment, public humiliation)  went on to further state that gambling and NBA game fixing was much more widespread than the NBA's rouge official conspiracy theory. 

    What exactly are the individuals who are posting here learning in the public/private education system, if anything? Are you not taught to form a viable, reasoned opinion through empirical evidence? Or do you sit in a high chair, with a bib on, taking in the pureed carrots and prunes that David Stern spoon-feeds you with regard to having this problem contained and eliminated. If the latter is the case, 'unvelcro' your diaper and you'll see your opinion staring you in the face.  

    The complaints outlined are about having a fair attempt to capitalize on an investment that has a return of 
    +91%/-100%. That's a huge swing for a 2 hour 40 minute period, and when you feel you're cheated out of it, you're understandably pist off. Just like you'd be pist off if you had half you're investment portfolio invested in Lehman Brothers, AIG, Bank of America, etc. etc. and found out you've been fleeced. 

    People please, before you post,provide a sound counter-argument that encapsulates the fact you could be considered the species person sapien and avoid looking like a monkey sitting your shit, rubbing it all over your face while grinning like you did here.

    Love the fact i found out Elvis shot out his TV  

       
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    posted this in your other thread...moved to the penalty box...for.......what reason? anyone? ......anyone???
    QUOTE Originally Posted by MrBator:

    https://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/d-wil/2009/04/03/the-anatomy-of-a-fishy-nba-game-how-the-fix-might-go-down/
     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here we go.  This writer is basically SAYING IT without saying it.  He covers himself legally in the very first sentence, but after that, he carefully outlines the Obvious Fix that most of us watched last night.

    That was an excellent article. Basically breaks down the 10 pages of this thread in a couple paragraphs. Completely validates everything you are saying. Boys and Girls, the internet article is the modern day newspaper so that website reference is as good as the front page of the sports section in a Denver/Utah printed periodical.

    I'm still amazed the some buffoonish NBA fans still write "Bator wins...rah rah rah shish boom bah :::pom poms shake:::...and Bator loses....He crys FIX!"

    This is after a referee in the NBA was sentenced to 15 MONTHS IN PRISON for FIXING GAMES!!!! Forgotten? Disregarded? Then that same man, under threat of perjury (i.e. more prison time, embarrassment, public humiliation)  went on to further state that gambling and NBA game fixing was much more widespread than the NBA's rouge official conspiracy theory. 

    What exactly are the individuals who are posting here learning in the public/private education system, if anything? Are you not taught to form a viable, reasoned opinion through empirical evidence? Or do you sit in a high chair, with a bib on, taking in the pureed carrots and prunes that David Stern spoon-feeds you with regard to having this problem contained and eliminated. If the latter is the case, 'unvelcro' your diaper and you'll see your opinion staring you in the face.  

    The complaints outlined are about having a fair attempt to capitalize on an investment that has a return of 
    +91%/-100%. That's a huge swing for a 2 hour 40 minute period, and when you feel you're cheated out of it, you're understandably pist off. Just like you'd be pist off if you had half you're investment portfolio invested in Lehman Brothers, AIG, Bank of America, etc. etc. and found out you've been fleeced. 

    People please, before you post,provide a sound counter-argument that encapsulates the fact you could be considered the species person sapien and avoid looking like a monkey sitting your shit, rubbing it all over your face while grinning like you did here.

    Love the fact i found out Elvis shot out his TV  

       
     
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    check out the hornets over 2nd half wow
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    well said scalabrine
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    Notice how the article points out early on refs were allowing physical play and then late were calling everything.  That shows it was not rigged.  They would have called it close from the get go and not waited for a last second over.  Look at how physical the 2nd quarter was and there were not many free throws.  Melo was fouled about 4 straight drives and never got to the line.  Boozer was getting roughed up and not getting any calls.  Just inconsistent bad refereeing which is normal for the NBA.  I mean look how the refs stole the Mavs championship a couple of years back.  It was so blatant with Bennet Salvatore's last second phantom call putting the ! point on it.  NBA refs suck
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    Notice how the article points out early on refs were allowing physical play and then late were calling everything.  That shows it was not rigged.  They would have called it close from the get go and not waited for a last second over.  Look at how physical the 2nd quarter was and there were not many free throws.  Melo was fouled about 4 straight drives and never got to the line.  Boozer was getting roughed up and not getting any calls.  Just inconsistent bad refereeing which is normal for the NBA.  I mean look how the refs stole the Mavs championship a couple of years back.  It was so blatant with Bennet Salvatore's last second phantom call putting the ! point on it.  NBA refs suck
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    well said scalabrine

     and well said to the guy who wrote that article...you NEVER find stuff like that in print...mainly because you'll alienate a large portion of your readers who equate NBA fixes to UFO landings at Roswell...which as Bator alluded to, is why espn would never DREAM of printing such a thing...even on the most liberal of all information outlets...the internet...instead we get "bracket mania" articles about which of 64 different ice creams would win if they had a tournament (seriously, that's on espn's website...someone was paid to write that)...as though ice cream could participate in a tournament...of any sort...
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    well said scalabrine

     and well said to the guy who wrote that article...you NEVER find stuff like that in print...mainly because you'll alienate a large portion of your readers who equate NBA fixes to UFO landings at Roswell...which as Bator alluded to, is why espn would never DREAM of printing such a thing...even on the most liberal of all information outlets...the internet...instead we get "bracket mania" articles about which of 64 different ice creams would win if they had a tournament (seriously, that's on espn's website...someone was paid to write that)...as though ice cream could participate in a tournament...of any sort...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamatheregoes:

    Notice how the article points out early on refs were allowing physical play and then late were calling everything.  That shows it was not rigged.  They would have called it close from the get go and not waited for a last second over.  Look at how physical the 2nd quarter was and there were not many free throws.  Melo was fouled about 4 straight drives and never got to the line.  Boozer was getting roughed up and not getting any calls.  Just inconsistent bad refereeing which is normal for the NBA.  I mean look how the refs stole the Mavs championship a couple of years back.  It was so blatant with Bennet Salvatore's last second phantom call putting the ! point on it.  NBA refs suck

    you read an detailed article about how easy it is to rig an NBA game, took one sentence from it and concluded That shows it was not rigged....

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    Notice how the article points out early on refs were allowing physical play and then late were calling everything.  That shows it was not rigged.  They would have called it close from the get go and not waited for a last second over.  Look at how physical the 2nd quarter was and there were not many free throws.  Melo was fouled about 4 straight drives and never got to the line.  Boozer was getting roughed up and not getting any calls.  Just inconsistent bad refereeing which is normal for the NBA.  I mean look how the refs stole the Mavs championship a couple of years back.  It was so blatant with Bennet Salvatore's last second phantom call putting the ! point on it.  NBA refs suck

    you read an detailed article about how easy it is to rig an NBA game, took one sentence from it and concluded That shows it was not rigged....

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by u4real:

    okay so whats the play ny or toronto?

    over!!!

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    okay so whats the play ny or toronto?

    over!!!

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