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    Follow The Money: Pacers vs. Heat, Game 5

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    RodWoman
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:48 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    With all due respect to the great cappers on this site, this has to be one of the best writeups/ predictions for a game. And to be honest, I can't even believe what I just saw. On a night when nothing could be counted on, especially not the pacers, the money came through! Thanks to the NBA script and those amazing officials, who went beyond the call of duty, to get us that 6th game!
      Mostly it was James, deciding not to put it on his shoulders, and pass it to Bosh for a 3-ball. That's about all it came down to. But the NBA script must have called for James to pass to Bosh, and told Bosh to miss the shot.  Good script.
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    With all due respect to the great cappers on this site, this has to be one of the best writeups/ predictions for a game. And to be honest, I can't even believe what I just saw. On a night when nothing could be counted on, especially not the pacers, the money came through! Thanks to the NBA script and those amazing officials, who went beyond the call of duty, to get us that 6th game!
      Mostly it was James, deciding not to put it on his shoulders, and pass it to Bosh for a 3-ball. That's about all it came down to. But the NBA script must have called for James to pass to Bosh, and told Bosh to miss the shot.  Good script.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 3:23 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      Mostly it was James, deciding not to put it on his shoulders, and pass it to Bosh for a 3-ball. That's about all it came down to. But the NBA script must have called for James to pass to Bosh, and told Bosh to miss the shot.  Good script.

    I'm sorry, but you're an idiot if you don't understand what happened tonight. And I also have some swamp land to sell you, if you're interested. Miami would have won that game by DD if not for LBJ's bogus foul troubles. Of course they had a chance to win, but they should never have been in that position. What about that don't you understand? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      Mostly it was James, deciding not to put it on his shoulders, and pass it to Bosh for a 3-ball. That's about all it came down to. But the NBA script must have called for James to pass to Bosh, and told Bosh to miss the shot.  Good script.

    I'm sorry, but you're an idiot if you don't understand what happened tonight. And I also have some swamp land to sell you, if you're interested. Miami would have won that game by DD if not for LBJ's bogus foul troubles. Of course they had a chance to win, but they should never have been in that position. What about that don't you understand? 
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 4:04 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Backing the Pacers should make any gambler physically ill. But fading them can be just as an unsalutary. Here is a team that only shows up and gives a real effort when it feels like it, and not just during the regular season but the playoffs! Here is a collection of guys that combined, don’t have the IQ of Scotty Brooks (sorry, had to get that in). Meanwhile, their coach is looking like a deer in headlights, even resorting to such bush league tactics as trying to distract the opposition by yelling and clapping in the middle of their shot attempts. In any other planet with intelligent life on it, this team and anyone who supports them, watches them, or bets on them would have been lobotomized and sterilized by now. However, luckily for us, or unluckily, we live on a planet where intelligence is far less important than entertainment and greed. First, the entertainment/greed machine insures that their cash cow (The Miami Heat) won’t lose this series, and now they will reintroduce a false sense of competition by not helping the Pacers to self-implode. This is the original Reality TV folks: a scripted reality that is meant to get our juices flowing. 

    As for the game…

    The Pacers have been here before, backs against the wall, fighting elimination, trying to salvage their season, yadda, yadda, yadda. It is a narrative that should be all too familiar by now. They will show up tomorrow (as they have done on every other occasion when everyone counted them out) and play a good game. Chris Bosh will come back down to earth, the refs won’t get in the Pacer’s way, Vogel will remember how to coach again, and LBJ will have to have a monster of a game for the Heat to have any chance of thwarting what everyone (except those with half a brain) wants to see: game 6. And by everyone we include the networks. ABC execs must be feeling real nervous by now, knowing that the Spurs/Thunder series is likely going 7 while their overhyped series might end tomorrow. For those of you looking for a cap that discusses matchups, game plans, psychologies etc, my response to you is: why bother? Even the best laid plans go up in flames in this league; whether it be because of no-shows, shady officiating, poor coaching, or bigmouthed players who don’t know when to shut their trap etc… The best thing to do in such instances (where nothing and no one can be counted on) is to follow the money. And my money will be on the sorriest, most dysfunctional team in these playoffs: the Pacers ML. 



    You nailed it. Great analysis last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Backing the Pacers should make any gambler physically ill. But fading them can be just as an unsalutary. Here is a team that only shows up and gives a real effort when it feels like it, and not just during the regular season but the playoffs! Here is a collection of guys that combined, don’t have the IQ of Scotty Brooks (sorry, had to get that in). Meanwhile, their coach is looking like a deer in headlights, even resorting to such bush league tactics as trying to distract the opposition by yelling and clapping in the middle of their shot attempts. In any other planet with intelligent life on it, this team and anyone who supports them, watches them, or bets on them would have been lobotomized and sterilized by now. However, luckily for us, or unluckily, we live on a planet where intelligence is far less important than entertainment and greed. First, the entertainment/greed machine insures that their cash cow (The Miami Heat) won’t lose this series, and now they will reintroduce a false sense of competition by not helping the Pacers to self-implode. This is the original Reality TV folks: a scripted reality that is meant to get our juices flowing. 

    As for the game…

    The Pacers have been here before, backs against the wall, fighting elimination, trying to salvage their season, yadda, yadda, yadda. It is a narrative that should be all too familiar by now. They will show up tomorrow (as they have done on every other occasion when everyone counted them out) and play a good game. Chris Bosh will come back down to earth, the refs won’t get in the Pacer’s way, Vogel will remember how to coach again, and LBJ will have to have a monster of a game for the Heat to have any chance of thwarting what everyone (except those with half a brain) wants to see: game 6. And by everyone we include the networks. ABC execs must be feeling real nervous by now, knowing that the Spurs/Thunder series is likely going 7 while their overhyped series might end tomorrow. For those of you looking for a cap that discusses matchups, game plans, psychologies etc, my response to you is: why bother? Even the best laid plans go up in flames in this league; whether it be because of no-shows, shady officiating, poor coaching, or bigmouthed players who don’t know when to shut their trap etc… The best thing to do in such instances (where nothing and no one can be counted on) is to follow the money. And my money will be on the sorriest, most dysfunctional team in these playoffs: the Pacers ML. 



    You nailed it. Great analysis last night.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 4:23 AM ET #29

    LBJ with 5 fouls with 8:34 (refs)


    IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

    I will guarantee that if you go back and look at every single game MJ played in his career, he didn't pick up a 5th foul that early...ever.

    5 fouls on the #1 guy in the league in the third quarter of a playoff game in an ECF elimination game with 8:34 left is WORSE than the Matt Barnes OKC/Thunder out of bounds call!

    Although that was blatantly violating the laws of physics, the refs simply said they didn't have the proper vantage point on the replay which needed to be indisputable (even though 8 million people watching TNT did have that very replay and a third grader would have known it was impossible for that arrow to go OKC's way on the call).

    But to call a 5th foul on the league's megastar to open the second half in a playoff game this big is like an umpire changing his strike zone from the size of a Marilyn Monroe commemorative postage stamp in the first inning to one where Manute Bol (standing erect as a redwood tree every pitch) is at bat in the fifth inning.

    I watched in utter disbelief.

    Take note of BB's cap readers.

    This post should be archived as one of those rare instances (almost exclusively belonging to playoff elimination games backing the trailing team) where you throw the whole cap for the game out the window with your Dairy Queen Blizzard spoon after you licked it clean and just....follow the money...the money which makes Adam Silver's perfectly pressed gray three piece suit pockets bust at the seams that is...
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    LBJ with 5 fouls with 8:34 (refs)


    IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

    I will guarantee that if you go back and look at every single game MJ played in his career, he didn't pick up a 5th foul that early...ever.

    5 fouls on the #1 guy in the league in the third quarter of a playoff game in an ECF elimination game with 8:34 left is WORSE than the Matt Barnes OKC/Thunder out of bounds call!

    Although that was blatantly violating the laws of physics, the refs simply said they didn't have the proper vantage point on the replay which needed to be indisputable (even though 8 million people watching TNT did have that very replay and a third grader would have known it was impossible for that arrow to go OKC's way on the call).

    But to call a 5th foul on the league's megastar to open the second half in a playoff game this big is like an umpire changing his strike zone from the size of a Marilyn Monroe commemorative postage stamp in the first inning to one where Manute Bol (standing erect as a redwood tree every pitch) is at bat in the fifth inning.

    I watched in utter disbelief.

    Take note of BB's cap readers.

    This post should be archived as one of those rare instances (almost exclusively belonging to playoff elimination games backing the trailing team) where you throw the whole cap for the game out the window with your Dairy Queen Blizzard spoon after you licked it clean and just....follow the money...the money which makes Adam Silver's perfectly pressed gray three piece suit pockets bust at the seams that is...
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 4:32 AM ET #30

    Scal what's your pick tomorrow? And what do you think about the total?
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    Scal what's your pick tomorrow? And what do you think about the total?
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 5:09 AM ET #31

    @beginnerboy don't bother with that idiotic comment. What these ppl don't understand is that the games aren't 100% rigged but just swayed no tilted to give what the league wants the best shot it can by not looking straight up fixed. If Bosh hits that shot then the series is over n there was nothing else the league could possibly do to force the game 6. N James is great but was never known as the best last shot taker.. N most guys/teams do what he did up 3-1, go for the 3 to skip OT n send them home
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    @beginnerboy don't bother with that idiotic comment. What these ppl don't understand is that the games aren't 100% rigged but just swayed no tilted to give what the league wants the best shot it can by not looking straight up fixed. If Bosh hits that shot then the series is over n there was nothing else the league could possibly do to force the game 6. N James is great but was never known as the best last shot taker.. N most guys/teams do what he did up 3-1, go for the 3 to skip OT n send them home
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 5:16 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch1:

    @beginnerboy don't bother with that idiotic comment. What these ppl don't understand is that the games aren't 100% rigged but just swayed no tilted to give what the league wants the best shot it can by not looking straight up fixed. If Bosh hits that shot then the series is over n there was nothing else the league could possibly do to force the game 6. N James is great but was never known as the best last shot taker.. N most guys/teams do what he did up 3-1, go for the 3 to skip OT n send them home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch1:

    @beginnerboy don't bother with that idiotic comment. What these ppl don't understand is that the games aren't 100% rigged but just swayed no tilted to give what the league wants the best shot it can by not looking straight up fixed. If Bosh hits that shot then the series is over n there was nothing else the league could possibly do to force the game 6. N James is great but was never known as the best last shot taker.. N most guys/teams do what he did up 3-1, go for the 3 to skip OT n send them home

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 5:24 AM ET #33

    swayed or tilted*
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 5:28 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    LBJ with 5 fouls with 8:34 (refs)


    IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

    I will guarantee that if you go back and look at every single game MJ played in his career, he didn't pick up a 5th foul that early...ever.

    5 fouls on the #1 guy in the league in the third quarter of a playoff game in an ECF elimination game with 8:34 left is WORSE than the Matt Barnes OKC/Thunder out of bounds call!

    Although that was blatantly violating the laws of physics, the refs simply said they didn't have the proper vantage point on the replay which needed to be indisputable (even though 8 million people watching TNT did have that very replay and a third grader would have known it was impossible for that arrow to go OKC's way on the call).

    But to call a 5th foul on the league's megastar to open the second half in a playoff game this big is like an umpire changing his strike zone from the size of a Marilyn Monroe commemorative postage stamp in the first inning to one where Manute Bol (standing erect as a redwood tree every pitch) is at bat in the fifth inning.

    I watched in utter disbelief.

    Take note of BB's cap readers.

    This post should be archived as one of those rare instances (almost exclusively belonging to playoff elimination games backing the trailing team) where you throw the whole cap for the game out the window with your Dairy Queen Blizzard spoon after you licked it clean and just....follow the money...the money which makes Adam Silver's perfectly pressed gray three piece suit pockets bust at the seams that is...

    Scal, I've been watching this game a long time and I've never seen something (i.e., a fix, or an attempt at a fix) so obvious and blatant. How you described it was not hyperbole, it was dead on. That's how I felt watching it. As if, suddenly, the rules of basketball were changed in the middle of the game. It would be the same as if the laws of gravity suddenly stopped applying, and the loose change that fell out of my pockets, started floating towards the sky. Or better yet, it was like a deus ex machina that suddenly intervened and saved the day (or our bets). Thanks for the kudos, friend, and my Spurs/Thunder write-up is ready for viewing, in case you are interested.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    LBJ with 5 fouls with 8:34 (refs)


    IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

    I will guarantee that if you go back and look at every single game MJ played in his career, he didn't pick up a 5th foul that early...ever.

    5 fouls on the #1 guy in the league in the third quarter of a playoff game in an ECF elimination game with 8:34 left is WORSE than the Matt Barnes OKC/Thunder out of bounds call!

    Although that was blatantly violating the laws of physics, the refs simply said they didn't have the proper vantage point on the replay which needed to be indisputable (even though 8 million people watching TNT did have that very replay and a third grader would have known it was impossible for that arrow to go OKC's way on the call).

    But to call a 5th foul on the league's megastar to open the second half in a playoff game this big is like an umpire changing his strike zone from the size of a Marilyn Monroe commemorative postage stamp in the first inning to one where Manute Bol (standing erect as a redwood tree every pitch) is at bat in the fifth inning.

    I watched in utter disbelief.

    Take note of BB's cap readers.

    This post should be archived as one of those rare instances (almost exclusively belonging to playoff elimination games backing the trailing team) where you throw the whole cap for the game out the window with your Dairy Queen Blizzard spoon after you licked it clean and just....follow the money...the money which makes Adam Silver's perfectly pressed gray three piece suit pockets bust at the seams that is...

    Scal, I've been watching this game a long time and I've never seen something (i.e., a fix, or an attempt at a fix) so obvious and blatant. How you described it was not hyperbole, it was dead on. That's how I felt watching it. As if, suddenly, the rules of basketball were changed in the middle of the game. It would be the same as if the laws of gravity suddenly stopped applying, and the loose change that fell out of my pockets, started floating towards the sky. Or better yet, it was like a deus ex machina that suddenly intervened and saved the day (or our bets). Thanks for the kudos, friend, and my Spurs/Thunder write-up is ready for viewing, in case you are interested.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmallBall17:

    Scal what's your pick tomorrow? And what do you think about the total?

    I am on the same side as Bb who has a write-up in the mains, our resident deus ex machina for a game like this .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmallBall17:

    Scal what's your pick tomorrow? And what do you think about the total?

    I am on the same side as Bb who has a write-up in the mains, our resident deus ex machina for a game like this .

     
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:00 AM ET #36

    Alright. Thanks. Do you think under is a good bet too?
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    Alright. Thanks. Do you think under is a good bet too?
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