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    1995-1996 Chicago Bulls remains the greatest team of all time.

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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:46 PM ET #1

    Congrats to LeBron James and company for bringing Cleveland their first NBA championship.

    Lots of questions are answered.

    Warriors would not even sniff 6 games against 72 win Bulls. I'd say Bulls in five if not sweep.

    Last year's championship for Warriors has a question mark. Can they really beat Cleveland with those two players healthy?

    The uninamous MVP performing like this in an NBA Finals?.... Joke...

    My, my...
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    Congrats to LeBron James and company for bringing Cleveland their first NBA championship.

    Lots of questions are answered.

    Warriors would not even sniff 6 games against 72 win Bulls. I'd say Bulls in five if not sweep.

    Last year's championship for Warriors has a question mark. Can they really beat Cleveland with those two players healthy?

    The uninamous MVP performing like this in an NBA Finals?.... Joke...

    My, my...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:47 PM ET #2

    They remained the greatest team whether GS won this game or not.  And it isn't even close.
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    They remained the greatest team whether GS won this game or not.  And it isn't even close.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:50 PM ET #3

    I 'm not so convinced, and I watched both teams extensively.  It's a different league now though. 

     

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    I 'm not so convinced, and I watched both teams extensively.  It's a different league now though. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:51 PM ET #4

    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 
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    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:51 PM ET #5

    87' Lakers!
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:54 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    87' Lakers!


    Worthy, Kareem and Magic,  I remember them well.  Showtime, well before the Bulls.

    Then again, you could always look at the Celtics and their insane runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    87' Lakers!


    Worthy, Kareem and Magic,  I remember them well.  Showtime, well before the Bulls.

    Then again, you could always look at the Celtics and their insane runs.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:54 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyfry:

    I 'm not so convinced, and I watched both teams extensively.  It's a different league now though. 

     


    That doesn't matter at all. Bulls would beat these fakers with both eras applied. 

    Heck, give Warriors the home court and they'd still lose. 

    Boy, would I love to see Rodman get in Greens a** all day. 
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    I 'm not so convinced, and I watched both teams extensively.  It's a different league now though. 

     


    That doesn't matter at all. Bulls would beat these fakers with both eras applied. 

    Heck, give Warriors the home court and they'd still lose. 

    Boy, would I love to see Rodman get in Greens a** all day. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:54 PM ET #8

    bullls would have swept both teams or at worst 4-1
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    bullls would have swept both teams or at worst 4-1
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:55 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 
    You got to be trolling son, because nobody is that stupid.  That Bulls team was probably the best defensive team in NBA history with Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman.  They were a lot better than this Cleveland team was, and they had several offensive weapons off the bench.  Even with it being a different league and athletes today have many more tools to make their body's better, Bulls with the series 4--1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 
    You got to be trolling son, because nobody is that stupid.  That Bulls team was probably the best defensive team in NBA history with Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman.  They were a lot better than this Cleveland team was, and they had several offensive weapons off the bench.  Even with it being a different league and athletes today have many more tools to make their body's better, Bulls with the series 4--1
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:56 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 



     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:57 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by elia20:

    bullls would have swept both teams or at worst 4-1


    Atlanta Hawks would sweep the Bulls. Much more athletic, better defenders, better scorers. Athletically far ahead and Bulls wouldnt be able to hang around even based on fatigue. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by elia20:

    bullls would have swept both teams or at worst 4-1


    Atlanta Hawks would sweep the Bulls. Much more athletic, better defenders, better scorers. Athletically far ahead and Bulls wouldnt be able to hang around even based on fatigue. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 10:58 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    You got to be trolling son, because nobody is that stupid.  That Bulls team was probably the best defensive team in NBA history with Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman.  They were a lot better than this Cleveland team was, and they had several offensive weapons off the bench.  Even with it being a different league and athletes today have many more tools to make their body's better, Bulls with the series 4--1

    Better than this Cleveland team by far yeah, but so was this Warriors team. The Warriors team is far ahead of Cleveland, its not even a question. But again, theres no1 close to the level of LeBron and thats why they won. Cleveland are absolute trash. This would honestly not make the playoffs without LeBron but with LeBron they are capable of beating the best team in history. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    You got to be trolling son, because nobody is that stupid.  That Bulls team was probably the best defensive team in NBA history with Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman.  They were a lot better than this Cleveland team was, and they had several offensive weapons off the bench.  Even with it being a different league and athletes today have many more tools to make their body's better, Bulls with the series 4--1

    Better than this Cleveland team by far yeah, but so was this Warriors team. The Warriors team is far ahead of Cleveland, its not even a question. But again, theres no1 close to the level of LeBron and thats why they won. Cleveland are absolute trash. This would honestly not make the playoffs without LeBron but with LeBron they are capable of beating the best team in history. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    You got to be trolling son, because nobody is that stupid.  That Bulls team was probably the best defensive team in NBA history with Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman.  They were a lot better than this Cleveland team was, and they had several offensive weapons off the bench.  Even with it being a different league and athletes today have many more tools to make their body's better, Bulls with the series 4--1

    Best defensive team in history? Have you even checked their defensive rating? https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html

    Bulls defensive rating is 101.8 and that is with all the so called physicality being allowed. They average 22.0 fouls per game. In contrast the 2015-2016 Spurs have a defensive rating of 99.0 and only commits 17.5 fouls per game despite the league being "soft". 

    The Bulls are an excellent defensive team, but to call them the best defensive team of all time would be a stretch. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    You got to be trolling son, because nobody is that stupid.  That Bulls team was probably the best defensive team in NBA history with Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman.  They were a lot better than this Cleveland team was, and they had several offensive weapons off the bench.  Even with it being a different league and athletes today have many more tools to make their body's better, Bulls with the series 4--1

    Best defensive team in history? Have you even checked their defensive rating? https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html

    Bulls defensive rating is 101.8 and that is with all the so called physicality being allowed. They average 22.0 fouls per game. In contrast the 2015-2016 Spurs have a defensive rating of 99.0 and only commits 17.5 fouls per game despite the league being "soft". 

    The Bulls are an excellent defensive team, but to call them the best defensive team of all time would be a stretch. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallet:


    Best defensive team in history? Have you even checked their defensive rating? https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html

    Bulls defensive rating is 101.8 and that is with all the so called physicality being allowed. They average 22.0 fouls per game. In contrast the 2015-2016 Spurs have a defensive rating of 99.0 and only commits 17.5 fouls per game despite the league being "soft". 

    The Bulls are an excellent defensive team, but to call them the best defensive team of all time would be a stretch. 
    Defensive rating??  Sounds about as worthless as QB rating

    It's all about the intangibles son. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallet:


    Best defensive team in history? Have you even checked their defensive rating? https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html

    Bulls defensive rating is 101.8 and that is with all the so called physicality being allowed. They average 22.0 fouls per game. In contrast the 2015-2016 Spurs have a defensive rating of 99.0 and only commits 17.5 fouls per game despite the league being "soft". 

    The Bulls are an excellent defensive team, but to call them the best defensive team of all time would be a stretch. 
    Defensive rating??  Sounds about as worthless as QB rating

    It's all about the intangibles son. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 11:09 PM ET #15

    72 win Bulls are the best in history, and the 85 Bears are the best in history for NFL

    I lived it and watched it all... those Chicago teams simply dominated everybody with no question at all.


    I named my first born son Jordan Michael... for good reason

    Chicago sports rock!!!  Blackhawks have done some good damage lately, and the Cubs are about to leave their mark


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    72 win Bulls are the best in history, and the 85 Bears are the best in history for NFL

    I lived it and watched it all... those Chicago teams simply dominated everybody with no question at all.


    I named my first born son Jordan Michael... for good reason

    Chicago sports rock!!!  Blackhawks have done some good damage lately, and the Cubs are about to leave their mark


     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 11:10 PM ET #16

    Please, a 2 time back to back MVP playing like this? Are you kidding me! OK, you say he never recovered from his injury but does that explain his great lack of on court decisions? Steph, is going to and should take a lot of heat for this !!!
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    Please, a 2 time back to back MVP playing like this? Are you kidding me! OK, you say he never recovered from his injury but does that explain his great lack of on court decisions? Steph, is going to and should take a lot of heat for this !!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 11:11 PM ET #17

    People are actually arguing that this GS team is better.  Is this the real world  They gave up a 3-1 series lead.  That Bulls team would never have done that, not in a million years
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    People are actually arguing that this GS team is better.  Is this the real world  They gave up a 3-1 series lead.  That Bulls team would never have done that, not in a million years
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by grande11111:

    Please, a 2 time back to back MVP playing like this? Are you kidding me! OK, you say he never recovered from his injury but does that explain his great lack of on court decisions? Steph, is going to and should take a lot of heat for this !!!

    I'm not going to make any excuses for him... but the fact is he was injured down the stretch.  An injured athlete is simply not as effective.  I will let his play next season tell the story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grande11111:

    Please, a 2 time back to back MVP playing like this? Are you kidding me! OK, you say he never recovered from his injury but does that explain his great lack of on court decisions? Steph, is going to and should take a lot of heat for this !!!

    I'm not going to make any excuses for him... but the fact is he was injured down the stretch.  An injured athlete is simply not as effective.  I will let his play next season tell the story.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Defensive rating??  Sounds about as worthless as QB rating

    It's all about the intangibles son. 

    This has to be the dumbest comment I've ever read. The basic premise behind defense is preventing the opposite team from scoring. If you allow more points per 100 possessions with the benefit of "physicality" etc., compared to a team which fouls less and allows lesser points per 100 possessions, how can you be considered the best defensive team in history? What do you judge them by? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Defensive rating??  Sounds about as worthless as QB rating

    It's all about the intangibles son. 

    This has to be the dumbest comment I've ever read. The basic premise behind defense is preventing the opposite team from scoring. If you allow more points per 100 possessions with the benefit of "physicality" etc., compared to a team which fouls less and allows lesser points per 100 possessions, how can you be considered the best defensive team in history? What do you judge them by? 
     
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    MJ would not have given up 3-1 series lead.
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    MJ would not have given up 3-1 series lead.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 11:14 PM ET #21

    Its not a matter of "giving something up" its a matter of LeBron TAKING it as he pleases. Bulls could have a 3-0 lead, but against LeBron what is that worth? Lol. Its worth garbage. 
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    Its not a matter of "giving something up" its a matter of LeBron TAKING it as he pleases. Bulls could have a 3-0 lead, but against LeBron what is that worth? Lol. Its worth garbage. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Its not a matter of "giving something up" its a matter of LeBron TAKING it as he pleases. Bulls could have a 3-0 lead, but against LeBron what is that worth? Lol. Its worth garbage. 
    Did you forget that Bulls had a little player called Michel Jordan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Its not a matter of "giving something up" its a matter of LeBron TAKING it as he pleases. Bulls could have a 3-0 lead, but against LeBron what is that worth? Lol. Its worth garbage. 
    Did you forget that Bulls had a little player called Michel Jordan
     
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    At the end of the day, the intangibles may not appear under the stats of players, but it would certainly appear in team stats. If defense is just "intangibles", then it should show up in points allowed per 100 possessions. So if a team has more "intangibles", then they should allow lesser points per 100 possessions. 
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    At the end of the day, the intangibles may not appear under the stats of players, but it would certainly appear in team stats. If defense is just "intangibles", then it should show up in points allowed per 100 possessions. So if a team has more "intangibles", then they should allow lesser points per 100 possessions. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2016 - 11:18 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 

    You are a fxxking joke , Warriors not even close to the Bulls . This warrior team have nothing but a bunch of 3 points shooter . When the shots are not going in , that's why they lost the final . 
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    Nope, 2015-2016 Warriors are much better than 95-96, but LeBron is just too much to handle. End of discussion. I think Bulls would struggle to avoid a sweep. 

    You are a fxxking joke , Warriors not even close to the Bulls . This warrior team have nothing but a bunch of 3 points shooter . When the shots are not going in , that's why they lost the final . 
     
     
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    Bulls were a menace on defense, they had clutch scorers, they had a madman rebounding... they had the very best coach of all time

    I;m shocked this is even a discussion.

    Lebron is by far the very best in the game today... no question - but that Bulls team would sweep the cavs today
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    Bulls were a menace on defense, they had clutch scorers, they had a madman rebounding... they had the very best coach of all time

    I;m shocked this is even a discussion.

    Lebron is by far the very best in the game today... no question - but that Bulls team would sweep the cavs today
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