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    review: Synecdoche, New York

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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2009 - 1:16 AM ET #1

     

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    OK… so the truth is that we’re all playing a part. We all want a director to tell us where to strand, a script to tell us what to say, and would love a note at the beginning of each day, telling us what will happen. And whether or not we choose to make it our own masterpiece is something controllable, unlike the uncontrollable certainty of death. Welcome to the existential premise of Synecdoche, New York. Kaufman delivers his best film to date with a philosophical blending of perfect taste. He utilizes the epicure ingredients of Philip Seymour Hoffman and Catherine Keener to concoct a delectable film that insists that you reconsider the sickness, paper-thin reality and overall fragility of the human condition. Mr. Kaufman is, in many ways, like a modern fiction novelist in the sense that he understands the power of creating a symbolic atmosphere. Synecdoche, New York is a refreshing look at our imminent demise and a unique blend of pure and honest reality and the metaphors which better explicate the complexities of said reality. This film does require a “close read” for lack of better terminology, so don’t go in lightly. However, rather than over intellectualize its ontological subject matter, it brings it to life with breathtaking artistry. A rare find and delectable treat.  Watch closely and enjoy the harvest of inspiration!
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    OK… so the truth is that we’re all playing a part. We all want a director to tell us where to strand, a script to tell us what to say, and would love a note at the beginning of each day, telling us what will happen. And whether or not we choose to make it our own masterpiece is something controllable, unlike the uncontrollable certainty of death. Welcome to the existential premise of Synecdoche, New York. Kaufman delivers his best film to date with a philosophical blending of perfect taste. He utilizes the epicure ingredients of Philip Seymour Hoffman and Catherine Keener to concoct a delectable film that insists that you reconsider the sickness, paper-thin reality and overall fragility of the human condition. Mr. Kaufman is, in many ways, like a modern fiction novelist in the sense that he understands the power of creating a symbolic atmosphere. Synecdoche, New York is a refreshing look at our imminent demise and a unique blend of pure and honest reality and the metaphors which better explicate the complexities of said reality. This film does require a “close read” for lack of better terminology, so don’t go in lightly. However, rather than over intellectualize its ontological subject matter, it brings it to life with breathtaking artistry. A rare find and delectable treat.  Watch closely and enjoy the harvest of inspiration!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2009 - 10:22 PM ET #2

    i'll check it out soon ........didn't want to further hijack other thread.....
    couldn't find your top 5......very interesting posts......(not more than 30 minutes ago I delivered blistering rant on C Columbus) > to buddies......"kinda good guy /talented sailor .....used/ manipulated by king+....)< of course only mass murderer with own holiday ....AMAZING to me how few people even consider / understand > that dead men....don't write so good.... 
    my top 5
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    The Seven Samurai
    Casablanca
    Cinema Paradiso
    Dr Strangelove
    "guilty pleasures".......
     as mentioned.......Outlaw Josie Wales......also ...Shawshank.....Raising Arizona.....Silence of the Lambs.....ZELIG ! (pretty much any woody will do....).......
    past few weeks have seen (again)......
    Dead Man......Henry Fool !.....Bad Lieutenant......Happiness ....Eating Raoul....Fritz the Cat.....and Polyester.....so ALMOST as weird as you....but...> so far looks like you're the man........may get extra points though.....as i was reading OSHO.......while watching most....
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    i'll check it out soon ........didn't want to further hijack other thread.....
    couldn't find your top 5......very interesting posts......(not more than 30 minutes ago I delivered blistering rant on C Columbus) > to buddies......"kinda good guy /talented sailor .....used/ manipulated by king+....)< of course only mass murderer with own holiday ....AMAZING to me how few people even consider / understand > that dead men....don't write so good.... 
    my top 5
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    The Seven Samurai
    Casablanca
    Cinema Paradiso
    Dr Strangelove
    "guilty pleasures".......
     as mentioned.......Outlaw Josie Wales......also ...Shawshank.....Raising Arizona.....Silence of the Lambs.....ZELIG ! (pretty much any woody will do....).......
    past few weeks have seen (again)......
    Dead Man......Henry Fool !.....Bad Lieutenant......Happiness ....Eating Raoul....Fritz the Cat.....and Polyester.....so ALMOST as weird as you....but...> so far looks like you're the man........may get extra points though.....as i was reading OSHO.......while watching most....
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2009 - 5:44 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by paranoisense:

     

    Kaufman delivers his best film to date with a philosophical blending of perfect taste. 

    I absolutely agree! This is the best movie I've seen in quite a while and I will definitely watch it again soon. Kaufman's way of working with metaphors is amazing, let's stop making bad art of our lives and start living them instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoisense:

     

    Kaufman delivers his best film to date with a philosophical blending of perfect taste. 

    I absolutely agree! This is the best movie I've seen in quite a while and I will definitely watch it again soon. Kaufman's way of working with metaphors is amazing, let's stop making bad art of our lives and start living them instead.

     
    paranoisense
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    Posted: May. 24, 2009 - 2:02 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    i'll check it out soon ........didn't want to further hijack other thread.....
    couldn't find your top 5......very interesting posts......(not more than 30 minutes ago I delivered blistering rant on C Columbus) > to buddies......"kinda good guy /talented sailor .....used/ manipulated by king+....)< of course only mass murderer with own holiday ....AMAZING to me how few people even consider / understand > that dead men....don't write so good.... 
    my top 5
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    The Seven Samurai
    Casablanca
    Cinema Paradiso
    Dr Strangelove
    "guilty pleasures".......
     as mentioned.......Outlaw Josie Wales......also ...Shawshank.....Raising Arizona.....Silence of the Lambs.....ZELIG ! (pretty much any woody will do....).......
    past few weeks have seen (again)......
    Dead Man......Henry Fool !.....Bad Lieutenant......Happiness ....Eating Raoul....Fritz the Cat.....and Polyester.....so ALMOST as weird as you....but...> so far looks like you're the man........may get extra points though.....as i was reading OSHO.......while watching most....

    bookie... love yer top 5... all arguable.. I wish that my tech problems w/covers didn't hinder my posts (but they do)... regardless.. thanks for the post and I can't argue with your top 5... all quality films... and, for me, the funny thing is that I HATE romantic comedies... but I LOVE Casablanca... go figure... although I know that it isn't really a comedy, it is still sappy, but it has a strange integrity... "play it again Sam..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    i'll check it out soon ........didn't want to further hijack other thread.....
    couldn't find your top 5......very interesting posts......(not more than 30 minutes ago I delivered blistering rant on C Columbus) > to buddies......"kinda good guy /talented sailor .....used/ manipulated by king+....)< of course only mass murderer with own holiday ....AMAZING to me how few people even consider / understand > that dead men....don't write so good.... 
    my top 5
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    The Seven Samurai
    Casablanca
    Cinema Paradiso
    Dr Strangelove
    "guilty pleasures".......
     as mentioned.......Outlaw Josie Wales......also ...Shawshank.....Raising Arizona.....Silence of the Lambs.....ZELIG ! (pretty much any woody will do....).......
    past few weeks have seen (again)......
    Dead Man......Henry Fool !.....Bad Lieutenant......Happiness ....Eating Raoul....Fritz the Cat.....and Polyester.....so ALMOST as weird as you....but...> so far looks like you're the man........may get extra points though.....as i was reading OSHO.......while watching most....

    bookie... love yer top 5... all arguable.. I wish that my tech problems w/covers didn't hinder my posts (but they do)... regardless.. thanks for the post and I can't argue with your top 5... all quality films... and, for me, the funny thing is that I HATE romantic comedies... but I LOVE Casablanca... go figure... although I know that it isn't really a comedy, it is still sappy, but it has a strange integrity... "play it again Sam..."

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2009 - 2:05 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by FancyClown:

    I absolutely agree! This is the best movie I've seen in quite a while and I will definitely watch it again soon. Kaufman's way of working with metaphors is amazing, let's stop making bad art of our lives and start living them instead.

    well put, FancyClown, well put... we create something, don't we? And when we look at what we have created... do we ever want to stop? If so... we haven't finished... right? Being content and being satisfied are two TOTALLY different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyClown:

    I absolutely agree! This is the best movie I've seen in quite a while and I will definitely watch it again soon. Kaufman's way of working with metaphors is amazing, let's stop making bad art of our lives and start living them instead.

    well put, FancyClown, well put... we create something, don't we? And when we look at what we have created... do we ever want to stop? If so... we haven't finished... right? Being content and being satisfied are two TOTALLY different things.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2009 - 12:11 PM ET #6

    Haven't seen the movie, but I want to.  The idea of when is something is "finished" also goes back to the the Beat writers of Burroughts, Ginsberg, and company.  There's a scene in David Cronenberg's Naked Lunch where this philosophical quandry is discussed at a table in a diner.  When is a poem finished?

    good thread


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    Haven't seen the movie, but I want to.  The idea of when is something is "finished" also goes back to the the Beat writers of Burroughts, Ginsberg, and company.  There's a scene in David Cronenberg's Naked Lunch where this philosophical quandry is discussed at a table in a diner.  When is a poem finished?

    good thread


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anent:

    Haven't seen the movie, but I want to.  The idea of when is something is "finished" also goes back to the the Beat writers of Burroughts, Ginsberg, and company.  There's a scene in David Cronenberg's Naked Lunch where this philosophical quandry is discussed at a table in a diner.  When is a poem finished?

    good thread


     

    Thanks Anent... yes, I know the scene that you are talking about... interesting tie in... I went through a HUGE Beat phase reading a lot of of the writings and a lot about the writers... this argument was famous between Ginsberg and Kerouac. Ginsberg believed in making revisions whereas Kerouac believed that the original was the only pure version.

    As far as Cronenberg goes, eXistenZ also plays with the concept of ideas and art (in this case it is in the form of a video game) taking on an organic nature and an ongoing growth so that it is never "done"...   

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anent:

    Haven't seen the movie, but I want to.  The idea of when is something is "finished" also goes back to the the Beat writers of Burroughts, Ginsberg, and company.  There's a scene in David Cronenberg's Naked Lunch where this philosophical quandry is discussed at a table in a diner.  When is a poem finished?

    good thread


     

    Thanks Anent... yes, I know the scene that you are talking about... interesting tie in... I went through a HUGE Beat phase reading a lot of of the writings and a lot about the writers... this argument was famous between Ginsberg and Kerouac. Ginsberg believed in making revisions whereas Kerouac believed that the original was the only pure version.

    As far as Cronenberg goes, eXistenZ also plays with the concept of ideas and art (in this case it is in the form of a video game) taking on an organic nature and an ongoing growth so that it is never "done"...   

     

     
     
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    Yes,

    I love Existenz.  Fantastic movie.  That part when she opens her mouth to show that we've all got a portal to our insides. Great stuff.   Much smarter than The Matrix, IMV.  But I've been a big time Cronenberg fan since RABID.  He's brilliant.

    I'm glad you're familiar with the connection.  I've actually only read KEN KESEY (SP?) and The Electric Acid Koolade Test.  I think that's the name.  SOme Burroughs also, but no Kurouac.  So I only know of the debate through that scene, personal experience with writing, and general love of the arts.

    It's also a relevant intellectual argument in academic circles.  I've always had a hard time with endings and revisions.

    With DVD"s having new endings attached and all that crap, I believe Ginsberg's view was co-opted by the industry for money.
    But that's another topic.

    Take er easy.




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    Yes,

    I love Existenz.  Fantastic movie.  That part when she opens her mouth to show that we've all got a portal to our insides. Great stuff.   Much smarter than The Matrix, IMV.  But I've been a big time Cronenberg fan since RABID.  He's brilliant.

    I'm glad you're familiar with the connection.  I've actually only read KEN KESEY (SP?) and The Electric Acid Koolade Test.  I think that's the name.  SOme Burroughs also, but no Kurouac.  So I only know of the debate through that scene, personal experience with writing, and general love of the arts.

    It's also a relevant intellectual argument in academic circles.  I've always had a hard time with endings and revisions.

    With DVD"s having new endings attached and all that crap, I believe Ginsberg's view was co-opted by the industry for money.
    But that's another topic.

    Take er easy.




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