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    review: Primer (thanks to YoungOne)

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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 2:31 AM ET #1

    First off, I want to give thanks to YoungOne for encouraging me to see this.
    For those who have wondered why I post so much in the movie forum, and even given me shit for doing so, this is why. If I like or hate a film, I can get advice from other film lovers and might just end up seeing a great flick like this that I may otherwise not have seen.
    Thanks YoungOne!
    Much appreciated!!!
     
    Primer
     
    (Four and a Half out of Five Stars)
     
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    So, we have all seen the “time travel” movie before, right? However, what we have here is an intelligent, almost totally believable and existential version of the classic time travel flick. On top of that, the acting, writing and directing, all of which seem to come out of nowhere for me as I have never heard of Shane Carruth before this, are all entirely authentic, moody and unique. This is an exceptionally well-done experiment in the space-time continuum that works on every level. Primer is intellectual, yet artistic in its exhibit and a thoughtful delight of satisfying curiosity for the viewer. If you liked eXistenZ, The Matrix, A Scanner Darkly, The Fountain, Requim for a Dream (as YoundOne pointed out), any Hitchcock or old Twilight Zone etc., you are likely to appreciate Primer. I can give it this: in many ways, this is the most realistic and still fantastic science fiction flick that I have seen since Kubrick’s masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey. That is to say that, much like Kubrick, Carruth seems to make every effort to work beyond the realm of science fiction and blend reality enough to produce philosophy. Who is this Shane Carruth? It is amazing to me that a story this intricate can be told so fittingly in less than an hour and fifteen minutes. But it is nice that it is short, because it may require at least two viewings to really feel its impact. Primer is a colossal accomplishment in film. If for no other reason it reminds us that the first impression matters less than the last, “because what the world remembers, the actuality, the last revision, is what counts, apparently.”
    Think about that logic… and just try and argue.
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    First off, I want to give thanks to YoungOne for encouraging me to see this.
    For those who have wondered why I post so much in the movie forum, and even given me shit for doing so, this is why. If I like or hate a film, I can get advice from other film lovers and might just end up seeing a great flick like this that I may otherwise not have seen.
    Thanks YoungOne!
    Much appreciated!!!
     
    Primer
     
    (Four and a Half out of Five Stars)
     
    More Info
     
    So, we have all seen the “time travel” movie before, right? However, what we have here is an intelligent, almost totally believable and existential version of the classic time travel flick. On top of that, the acting, writing and directing, all of which seem to come out of nowhere for me as I have never heard of Shane Carruth before this, are all entirely authentic, moody and unique. This is an exceptionally well-done experiment in the space-time continuum that works on every level. Primer is intellectual, yet artistic in its exhibit and a thoughtful delight of satisfying curiosity for the viewer. If you liked eXistenZ, The Matrix, A Scanner Darkly, The Fountain, Requim for a Dream (as YoundOne pointed out), any Hitchcock or old Twilight Zone etc., you are likely to appreciate Primer. I can give it this: in many ways, this is the most realistic and still fantastic science fiction flick that I have seen since Kubrick’s masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey. That is to say that, much like Kubrick, Carruth seems to make every effort to work beyond the realm of science fiction and blend reality enough to produce philosophy. Who is this Shane Carruth? It is amazing to me that a story this intricate can be told so fittingly in less than an hour and fifteen minutes. But it is nice that it is short, because it may require at least two viewings to really feel its impact. Primer is a colossal accomplishment in film. If for no other reason it reminds us that the first impression matters less than the last, “because what the world remembers, the actuality, the last revision, is what counts, apparently.”
    Think about that logic… and just try and argue.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 12:20 PM ET #2

    ahah you saw it!  very glad you liked it.  make sure you note, however, that this is not everyones cup of tea.  if your favorite movies include the ones you listed, then yes, definately see it.  however, if your favorite movies are those that star rob schnieder or david spade or are those kind of films that would be directed by brett ratner or michael bay, then this is definately not the movie for you.


    Also para, what do you think of my all-time favorite film, Donnie Darko?

    I do have one more suggestion for you.  A lot of people are whining about your reviews taking up almost every thread in this forum.  what if you started one thread called "Paranoisense's Film Reviews" and then subsequently posted all of your reviews in that one thread.  That way, people can come and see what you have to say about movies but it wont be like you are cluttering the forum

    just a suggestion man...and def get back to me on what you think about darko
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    ahah you saw it!  very glad you liked it.  make sure you note, however, that this is not everyones cup of tea.  if your favorite movies include the ones you listed, then yes, definately see it.  however, if your favorite movies are those that star rob schnieder or david spade or are those kind of films that would be directed by brett ratner or michael bay, then this is definately not the movie for you.


    Also para, what do you think of my all-time favorite film, Donnie Darko?

    I do have one more suggestion for you.  A lot of people are whining about your reviews taking up almost every thread in this forum.  what if you started one thread called "Paranoisense's Film Reviews" and then subsequently posted all of your reviews in that one thread.  That way, people can come and see what you have to say about movies but it wont be like you are cluttering the forum

    just a suggestion man...and def get back to me on what you think about darko
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 12:20 PM ET #3

    also, that name Shane Carruth always reminds me of Rae Carruth
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    also, that name Shane Carruth always reminds me of Rae Carruth
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 4:52 PM ET #4

    Donnie Darko is also a very good film. In fact, I bought it online immediately after seeing it for the first time. It is yet another in this realm of philosophical fiction.

     

    Again... thanks for the recommendation on Primer!

     

    By the way… did you ever see or like Naked Lunch?

     

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    Donnie Darko is also a very good film. In fact, I bought it online immediately after seeing it for the first time. It is yet another in this realm of philosophical fiction.

     

    Again... thanks for the recommendation on Primer!

     

    By the way… did you ever see or like Naked Lunch?

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 10:25 PM ET #5

    never saw that one man....do u reccommend it?  if i recall, that is either croenberg or jaramush.  am i correct?
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    never saw that one man....do u reccommend it?  if i recall, that is either croenberg or jaramush.  am i correct?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 11:56 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungOne:

    never saw that one man....do u reccommend it?  if i recall, that is either croenberg or jaramush.  am i correct?

    well...

    it is Cronenberg...

    and its is a bit hard for me to be objective completely as I am a HUGE fan of William S. Burroughs. Naked Lunch is an amazing a completely bizarre masterpiece in literature, and when I heard it was going to be made into a movie I was blown away… I mean, if you read this thing, you would be CERTAIN that a movie could never be taken from it… one of the methods that Burroughs used when writing it is that he cut the pages up between paragraphs, and rearranged them randomly… it is hard to follow and full of heroin induced hallucinations and philosophies…. So Cronenberg went a different route with it and made it more about Burroughs’ process… you see, Burroughs created a world called Interzone. It was where he claimed to live while writing… you are probably beginning to see why Cronenberg loved his work… so Naked Lunch (the film) is a blending of real life and Interzone as Burroughs writes Naked Lunch (the novel)…

     

    Here is my review…

     

    I think that you may like it…

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungOne:

    never saw that one man....do u reccommend it?  if i recall, that is either croenberg or jaramush.  am i correct?

    well...

    it is Cronenberg...

    and its is a bit hard for me to be objective completely as I am a HUGE fan of William S. Burroughs. Naked Lunch is an amazing a completely bizarre masterpiece in literature, and when I heard it was going to be made into a movie I was blown away… I mean, if you read this thing, you would be CERTAIN that a movie could never be taken from it… one of the methods that Burroughs used when writing it is that he cut the pages up between paragraphs, and rearranged them randomly… it is hard to follow and full of heroin induced hallucinations and philosophies…. So Cronenberg went a different route with it and made it more about Burroughs’ process… you see, Burroughs created a world called Interzone. It was where he claimed to live while writing… you are probably beginning to see why Cronenberg loved his work… so Naked Lunch (the film) is a blending of real life and Interzone as Burroughs writes Naked Lunch (the novel)…

     

    Here is my review…

     

    I think that you may like it…

     

     
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    Naked Lunch
     
    (Five out of Five Stars)
     
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    If you have read one of the most astoundingly inventive and outlandish texts from the astonishing literary canon of Interzone, Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs, then you are probably thinking…”How could this be made into a film?” Good question. It can’t. However, the story of a young and inspired Burroughs reporting from Interzone is the route that Cronenberg chooses to take and does so while maintaining the flavor of one of the single most genius literary minds of the western world. Burroughs himself couldn’t watch this film as it contains the infamous William Tell scene (based painfully on true events), but this is a masterpiece in and of itself. Not enough viewers recognize David Cronenberg’s bravery, but for those of us who have read and seen Naked Lunch, we get it. The lure of Mugwump jizm and bug powder, the temptation of being an exterminator, and the hazard of losing love to possibility, all lead to one of the optimum authors, William S. Burroughs’s supreme quotes: “A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.” Burroughs and Cronenberg knew what was going on. This film and book can be summed up in one word: MASTERPIECE!
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    Naked Lunch
     
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    If you have read one of the most astoundingly inventive and outlandish texts from the astonishing literary canon of Interzone, Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs, then you are probably thinking…”How could this be made into a film?” Good question. It can’t. However, the story of a young and inspired Burroughs reporting from Interzone is the route that Cronenberg chooses to take and does so while maintaining the flavor of one of the single most genius literary minds of the western world. Burroughs himself couldn’t watch this film as it contains the infamous William Tell scene (based painfully on true events), but this is a masterpiece in and of itself. Not enough viewers recognize David Cronenberg’s bravery, but for those of us who have read and seen Naked Lunch, we get it. The lure of Mugwump jizm and bug powder, the temptation of being an exterminator, and the hazard of losing love to possibility, all lead to one of the optimum authors, William S. Burroughs’s supreme quotes: “A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.” Burroughs and Cronenberg knew what was going on. This film and book can be summed up in one word: MASTERPIECE!
     
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    If you watch the extras on the Primer DVD you see why you have'nt heard of Shane Carruth before. This was his first movie and he was involved in basically every part in the making of this film. With a budget of ,if I remember correctly $7000, this movie is truly awesome and mind-boggling.

    I may have a suggestion of a movie for you to watch paranoisense. Based on your praise of Cronenberg and Burroughs
    give Singapore Sling a shot. I watched it recently and it truly is a one of its kind and not for the faint-hearted. I guess its one of those movies you either hate or love.

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    If you watch the extras on the Primer DVD you see why you have'nt heard of Shane Carruth before. This was his first movie and he was involved in basically every part in the making of this film. With a budget of ,if I remember correctly $7000, this movie is truly awesome and mind-boggling.

    I may have a suggestion of a movie for you to watch paranoisense. Based on your praise of Cronenberg and Burroughs
    give Singapore Sling a shot. I watched it recently and it truly is a one of its kind and not for the faint-hearted. I guess its one of those movies you either hate or love.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyClown:

    If you watch the extras on the Primer DVD you see why you have'nt heard of Shane Carruth before. This was his first movie and he was involved in basically every part in the making of this film. With a budget of ,if I remember correctly $7000, this movie is truly awesome and mind-boggling.

    I may have a suggestion of a movie for you to watch paranoisense. Based on your praise of Cronenberg and Burroughs
    give Singapore Sling a shot. I watched it recently and it truly is a one of its kind and not for the faint-hearted. I guess its one of those movies you either hate or love.

    Thanks for the recommendation FancyClown... I just added it to my list!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyClown:

    If you watch the extras on the Primer DVD you see why you have'nt heard of Shane Carruth before. This was his first movie and he was involved in basically every part in the making of this film. With a budget of ,if I remember correctly $7000, this movie is truly awesome and mind-boggling.

    I may have a suggestion of a movie for you to watch paranoisense. Based on your praise of Cronenberg and Burroughs
    give Singapore Sling a shot. I watched it recently and it truly is a one of its kind and not for the faint-hearted. I guess its one of those movies you either hate or love.

    Thanks for the recommendation FancyClown... I just added it to my list!!!

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungOne:

     


    I do have one more suggestion for you.  A lot of people are whining about your reviews taking up almost every thread in this forum.  what if you started one thread called "Paranoisense's Film Reviews" and then subsequently posted all of your reviews in that one thread. 
    just a suggestion man...and def get back to me on what you think about darko

    Thanks for the suggestion, my friend, but I will just post a little less often.... the idea is to get threads going about different films and bounce my reviews off of people... I really don't care if they disagree with me... art is art and everyone will have their opinions... for example NJDEVILS has disagreed with me on several occasions, but I have the utmost respect for his opinions... that being said, I will cut down my postings a bit so as not to "clutter" the forum... but I am REALLY enjoying the discussions in here!!!

     

    Here come a couple more flix to discuss...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungOne:

     


    I do have one more suggestion for you.  A lot of people are whining about your reviews taking up almost every thread in this forum.  what if you started one thread called "Paranoisense's Film Reviews" and then subsequently posted all of your reviews in that one thread. 
    just a suggestion man...and def get back to me on what you think about darko

    Thanks for the suggestion, my friend, but I will just post a little less often.... the idea is to get threads going about different films and bounce my reviews off of people... I really don't care if they disagree with me... art is art and everyone will have their opinions... for example NJDEVILS has disagreed with me on several occasions, but I have the utmost respect for his opinions... that being said, I will cut down my postings a bit so as not to "clutter" the forum... but I am REALLY enjoying the discussions in here!!!

     

    Here come a couple more flix to discuss...

     

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