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    Masterpiece Mystery! Sherlock, Series II on PBS

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    Posted: May. 18, 2012 - 1:51 PM ET #1

    Masterpiece Mystery! Sherlock, Series II (2012) on PBS

    just happened to record last Sunday to compare to the classic Basil Rathbone (as Sherlock Holmes) - Nigel Bruce (as Dr Watson) film series from 1939 thru 1946 which I think is the BEST Sherlock Holmes and Watson EVER.

    AND I still think they are BUT thought that Benedict Cumberbatch  as Holmes was a close 2nd to Rathbone and definately the best "modern" Holmes I have seen. he plays the part with just the right amount British arrogant self confidence. Martin Freeman as Dr Watson plays him less the "fool" than Bruce and is OK BUT not as much fun.

    the new series is set in modern times complete with modern communications like cell phones and texting. the one I watched was an updated "The Hounds of Baskerville" and it was excellent mystery AND even had some "Alien" style "startle" scenes

    think it's worth watching IF you like good mystery, excellent acting and/or Sherlock Holmes stories. next week is "The Reichenbach Fall" which is the final confrontation between Holmes and his arch enemy Professor Moriarty. it's on PBS Sunday night here in Las Vegas BUT might be on at a different day or time in other cities.

    ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(TV_series)

    ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(1939_film_series)

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    Masterpiece Mystery! Sherlock, Series II (2012) on PBS

    just happened to record last Sunday to compare to the classic Basil Rathbone (as Sherlock Holmes) - Nigel Bruce (as Dr Watson) film series from 1939 thru 1946 which I think is the BEST Sherlock Holmes and Watson EVER.

    AND I still think they are BUT thought that Benedict Cumberbatch  as Holmes was a close 2nd to Rathbone and definately the best "modern" Holmes I have seen. he plays the part with just the right amount British arrogant self confidence. Martin Freeman as Dr Watson plays him less the "fool" than Bruce and is OK BUT not as much fun.

    the new series is set in modern times complete with modern communications like cell phones and texting. the one I watched was an updated "The Hounds of Baskerville" and it was excellent mystery AND even had some "Alien" style "startle" scenes

    think it's worth watching IF you like good mystery, excellent acting and/or Sherlock Holmes stories. next week is "The Reichenbach Fall" which is the final confrontation between Holmes and his arch enemy Professor Moriarty. it's on PBS Sunday night here in Las Vegas BUT might be on at a different day or time in other cities.

    ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(TV_series)

    ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(1939_film_series)

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2012 - 2:40 PM ET #2

    i just watched my first masterpiece theater series last night.  it was pretty good.  i've got a few more lined up on netflix.
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    i just watched my first masterpiece theater series last night.  it was pretty good.  i've got a few more lined up on netflix.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i just watched my first masterpiece theater series last night.  it was pretty good.  i've got a few more lined up on netflix.

    I think the Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot Masterpiece Mystery series is the best with David Suchet playing the diminutive Belgian detective. great fun trying to out do Poirot and solve the case yourself before the ending.

    BUT this new Sherlock Holmes is pretty good and I think putting on your list  

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i just watched my first masterpiece theater series last night.  it was pretty good.  i've got a few more lined up on netflix.

    I think the Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot Masterpiece Mystery series is the best with David Suchet playing the diminutive Belgian detective. great fun trying to out do Poirot and solve the case yourself before the ending.

    BUT this new Sherlock Holmes is pretty good and I think putting on your list  

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2012 - 5:11 PM ET #4

    Hercule Poirot on YouTube >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCgloiB0nMc
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    Hercule Poirot on YouTube >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCgloiB0nMc
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2012 - 5:27 PM ET #5

    i'll add them.
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    i'll add them.
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2012 - 1:21 PM ET #6

    also put Margin Call (2011) on your list CD. write up on https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=84&sub=101337666&page=2 

    VERY well acted movie about the 2008 "Mortgage Meltdown"   

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    also put Margin Call (2011) on your list CD. write up on https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=84&sub=101337666&page=2 

    VERY well acted movie about the 2008 "Mortgage Meltdown"   

     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2012 - 3:25 PM ET #7

    i've seen it, it was pretty good
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    i've seen it, it was pretty good
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2012 - 8:36 PM ET #8

    love Sherlock Holmes.


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    love Sherlock Holmes.


     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2012 - 12:23 AM ET #9

    After seeing this thread I watched the 3 episodes of 'Sherlock' on Nerflix. Pretty good, better than I expected.

     

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    After seeing this thread I watched the 3 episodes of 'Sherlock' on Nerflix. Pretty good, better than I expected.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2012 - 3:02 PM ET #10

    finally watched "The Reichenbach Fall" and thought that Andrew Scott as Professor James Moriarty (known as "Jim" in this modern version) was sufficiently "cunningly vicious" for the part but NO one will EVER replace either Lionel Atwill or, even more so, Henry Daniell, who was one of the BEST villians in 1940's English film, as Moriarty.

    did not like it as well as "The Hounds of Baskerville" from the previous week.  thought the plot was overly convoluted even for a Sherlock Holmes mystery. 

    STILL worth watching, though  

     

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    finally watched "The Reichenbach Fall" and thought that Andrew Scott as Professor James Moriarty (known as "Jim" in this modern version) was sufficiently "cunningly vicious" for the part but NO one will EVER replace either Lionel Atwill or, even more so, Henry Daniell, who was one of the BEST villians in 1940's English film, as Moriarty.

    did not like it as well as "The Hounds of Baskerville" from the previous week.  thought the plot was overly convoluted even for a Sherlock Holmes mystery. 

    STILL worth watching, though  

     

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 2:19 AM ET #11

    love Sherlock Holmes
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    love Sherlock Holmes
     
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    Lucy Liu to play Dr Watson in 'radical' US adaptation of Sherlock Holmes

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    Dr Watson will be transformed into an “ass-kicking” female counterpart, played by Lucy Liu, in the curious case of the gender-changing sidekick.

    John Watson will become Joan in Elementary, a radical modern-day take on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s classic mysteries, produced by the American network CBS.

    With Jonny Lee Miller cast as Sherlock, the US series has made a bold move to distance itself from Sherlock, the hit BBC1 series, whose producers had threatened legal action if the American drama infringed their copyright.
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    Lucy Liu to play Dr Watson in 'radical' US adaptation of Sherlock Holmes

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    Dr Watson will be transformed into an “ass-kicking” female counterpart, played by Lucy Liu, in the curious case of the gender-changing sidekick.

    John Watson will become Joan in Elementary, a radical modern-day take on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s classic mysteries, produced by the American network CBS.

    With Jonny Lee Miller cast as Sherlock, the US series has made a bold move to distance itself from Sherlock, the hit BBC1 series, whose producers had threatened legal action if the American drama infringed their copyright.
     
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    Which literary character has been portrayed a record-breaking 254 times on TV and film? It's elementary... Sherlock Holmes

    Basil Rathbone, Jeremy Brett, Benedict Cumberbatch, Robert Downey Jr, Tom Baker... the full list of actors who have taken on the role of Sherlock Holmes is so long that the super sleuth himself might struggle to remember all the names.

    And now, Holmes has broken the record for having more film and TV portrayals than any other literary character.

    The consulting detective has been depicted on the big and small screen a total of 254 times.

    Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's creation beats the next most popular character, Hamlet, by a total of 48 appearances.
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    Which literary character has been portrayed a record-breaking 254 times on TV and film? It's elementary... Sherlock Holmes

    Basil Rathbone, Jeremy Brett, Benedict Cumberbatch, Robert Downey Jr, Tom Baker... the full list of actors who have taken on the role of Sherlock Holmes is so long that the super sleuth himself might struggle to remember all the names.

    And now, Holmes has broken the record for having more film and TV portrayals than any other literary character.

    The consulting detective has been depicted on the big and small screen a total of 254 times.

    Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's creation beats the next most popular character, Hamlet, by a total of 48 appearances.
     
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    A STUDY IN HOLMES: ACTORS WHO HAVE PLAYED THE SLEUTH
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    Joaquim de Almeida (The Xango from Baker Street, 2001)

    James D'Arcy (Sherlock: Case of Evil, 2002)

    Tom Baker (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1982 mini series)

    John Barrymore (Sherlock Holmes, 1922 film)

    Jeremy Brett (1984-1994, TV series)

    Clive Brook (The Return of Sherlock Holmes, 1929 film; Sherlock Holmes, 1932 film)

    John Cleese (The Strange Case of the End of Civilization as We Know It, 1977 film; Elementary, My Dear Watson, 1973 TV film)

    Peter Cook (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1978 film)

    Benedict Cumberbatch (Sherlock, 2010 BBC TV series)

    Peter Cushing (The Masks of Death, 1984 TV film; Sherlock Holmes, 1965-1968 TV series; The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1959 film

    Robert Downey, Jr (Sherlock Holmes, 2009 film; Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, 2011 film)

    Rupert Everett (Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Silk Stocking, 2004 TV film)

    Matt Frewer (The Case of the Whitechapel Vampire, 2002 TV film; The Sign of Four, 2001 TV film; The Royal Scandal, 2001 TV film; The Hound of the Baskervilles, 2000 TV film)
    William Gillette (Sherlock Holmes, 1916 film)

    Stewart Granger (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1972 TV film)

    Guy Henry (Young Sherlock: The Mystery of the Manor House, 1982 TV series)

    Charlton Heston (The Crucifer of Blood, 1991 TV film)

    Anthony Higgins (Sherlock Holmes Returns, 1993 TV film)

    Ronald Howard (Sherlock Holmes, 1954-1955 TV series)

    Frank Langella (Sherlock Holmes, 1981 TV film)

    Christopher Lee (Sherlock Holmes and the Deadly Necklace, 1962 film; Incident at Victoria Falls, 1991 TV film; Sherlock Holmes and the Leading Lady, 1992 TV film)

    Vasily Livanov (The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson, five films 1979 to 1986)

    John Longden (The Man Who Disappeared, 1951, 26 mini TV episode)

    Patrick Macnee (The Hound of London (1993 TV film)

    Raymond Massey (The Speckled Band, 1931 film)

    Roger Moore (Sherlock Holmes in New York, 1976 TV film)

    John Neville (A Study in Terror, 1965 film)

    Eille Norwood (numerous silent films from 1920 to 1923)

    Reginald Owen (A Study in Scarlet, 1933 film)

    Michael Pennington (The Return of Sherlock Holmes, 1987 TV film)

    Christopher Plummer (Silver Blaze, 1977; Murder by Decree, 1979 film)

    Jonathan Pryce (Sherlock Holmes and the Baker Street Irregulars, 2007 film)

    Basil Rathbone (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1939 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, 1942 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, 1943 film; Sherlock Holmes in Washington, 1943 film; The Scarlet Claw, 1944 film and many others)

    Robert Rendel (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1932 film)

    Ian Richardson (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1983 TV film; The Sign of Four, 1983 TV film)

    Nicholas Rowe (Young Sherlock Holmes, 1985 film)

    Richard Roxburgh (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 2002 TV film)

    George C. Scott (They Might Be Giants, 1971 film)

    Robert Stephens (The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes, 1970 film)

    Ben Syder (Sherlock Holmes, 2010 film)

    Alan Wheatley (Sherlock Holmes, 1951 BBC TV series)

    Geoffrey Whitehead (Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson, 1980 TV series)

    Nicol Williamson (The Seven-Per-Cent Solution, 1976 film)

    Douglas Wilmer (Sherlock Holmes, 1965 TV series)

    Arthur Wontner (The Sleeping Cardinal, 1931 film; The Missing Rembrandt, 1932 film and others)

    Edward Woodward (Hands of a Murderer, 1990 TV film)
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    A STUDY IN HOLMES: ACTORS WHO HAVE PLAYED THE SLEUTH
    ########################################################

    Joaquim de Almeida (The Xango from Baker Street, 2001)

    James D'Arcy (Sherlock: Case of Evil, 2002)

    Tom Baker (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1982 mini series)

    John Barrymore (Sherlock Holmes, 1922 film)

    Jeremy Brett (1984-1994, TV series)

    Clive Brook (The Return of Sherlock Holmes, 1929 film; Sherlock Holmes, 1932 film)

    John Cleese (The Strange Case of the End of Civilization as We Know It, 1977 film; Elementary, My Dear Watson, 1973 TV film)

    Peter Cook (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1978 film)

    Benedict Cumberbatch (Sherlock, 2010 BBC TV series)

    Peter Cushing (The Masks of Death, 1984 TV film; Sherlock Holmes, 1965-1968 TV series; The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1959 film

    Robert Downey, Jr (Sherlock Holmes, 2009 film; Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, 2011 film)

    Rupert Everett (Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Silk Stocking, 2004 TV film)

    Matt Frewer (The Case of the Whitechapel Vampire, 2002 TV film; The Sign of Four, 2001 TV film; The Royal Scandal, 2001 TV film; The Hound of the Baskervilles, 2000 TV film)
    William Gillette (Sherlock Holmes, 1916 film)

    Stewart Granger (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1972 TV film)

    Guy Henry (Young Sherlock: The Mystery of the Manor House, 1982 TV series)

    Charlton Heston (The Crucifer of Blood, 1991 TV film)

    Anthony Higgins (Sherlock Holmes Returns, 1993 TV film)

    Ronald Howard (Sherlock Holmes, 1954-1955 TV series)

    Frank Langella (Sherlock Holmes, 1981 TV film)

    Christopher Lee (Sherlock Holmes and the Deadly Necklace, 1962 film; Incident at Victoria Falls, 1991 TV film; Sherlock Holmes and the Leading Lady, 1992 TV film)

    Vasily Livanov (The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson, five films 1979 to 1986)

    John Longden (The Man Who Disappeared, 1951, 26 mini TV episode)

    Patrick Macnee (The Hound of London (1993 TV film)

    Raymond Massey (The Speckled Band, 1931 film)

    Roger Moore (Sherlock Holmes in New York, 1976 TV film)

    John Neville (A Study in Terror, 1965 film)

    Eille Norwood (numerous silent films from 1920 to 1923)

    Reginald Owen (A Study in Scarlet, 1933 film)

    Michael Pennington (The Return of Sherlock Holmes, 1987 TV film)

    Christopher Plummer (Silver Blaze, 1977; Murder by Decree, 1979 film)

    Jonathan Pryce (Sherlock Holmes and the Baker Street Irregulars, 2007 film)

    Basil Rathbone (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1939 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, 1942 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, 1943 film; Sherlock Holmes in Washington, 1943 film; The Scarlet Claw, 1944 film and many others)

    Robert Rendel (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1932 film)

    Ian Richardson (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1983 TV film; The Sign of Four, 1983 TV film)

    Nicholas Rowe (Young Sherlock Holmes, 1985 film)

    Richard Roxburgh (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 2002 TV film)

    George C. Scott (They Might Be Giants, 1971 film)

    Robert Stephens (The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes, 1970 film)

    Ben Syder (Sherlock Holmes, 2010 film)

    Alan Wheatley (Sherlock Holmes, 1951 BBC TV series)

    Geoffrey Whitehead (Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson, 1980 TV series)

    Nicol Williamson (The Seven-Per-Cent Solution, 1976 film)

    Douglas Wilmer (Sherlock Holmes, 1965 TV series)

    Arthur Wontner (The Sleeping Cardinal, 1931 film; The Missing Rembrandt, 1932 film and others)

    Edward Woodward (Hands of a Murderer, 1990 TV film)
     
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    Basil Rathbone (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1939 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, 1942 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, 1943 film; Sherlock Holmes in Washington, 1943 film; The Scarlet Claw, 1944 film and many others)

    NO ONE better as Holmes than Basil Rathbone and NO one better as Watson than Nigel Bruce although the newest Holmes, Benedict Cumberbatch is excellent and I thought Peter Cushing was a close second to Rathbone in his portrayal in the 1959 " The Hound of the Baskervilles"

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    Basil Rathbone (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1939 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, 1942 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, 1943 film; Sherlock Holmes in Washington, 1943 film; The Scarlet Claw, 1944 film and many others)

    NO ONE better as Holmes than Basil Rathbone and NO one better as Watson than Nigel Bruce although the newest Holmes, Benedict Cumberbatch is excellent and I thought Peter Cushing was a close second to Rathbone in his portrayal in the 1959 " The Hound of the Baskervilles"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    Basil Rathbone (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1939 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, 1942 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, 1943 film; Sherlock Holmes in Washington, 1943 film; The Scarlet Claw, 1944 film and many others)

    NO ONE better as Holmes than Basil Rathbone and NO one better as Watson than Nigel Bruce although the newest Holmes, Benedict Cumberbatch is excellent and I thought Peter Cushing was a close second to Rathbone in his portrayal in the 1959 " The Hound of the Baskervilles"




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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    Basil Rathbone (The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1939 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, 1942 film; Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon, 1943 film; Sherlock Holmes in Washington, 1943 film; The Scarlet Claw, 1944 film and many others)

    NO ONE better as Holmes than Basil Rathbone and NO one better as Watson than Nigel Bruce although the newest Holmes, Benedict Cumberbatch is excellent and I thought Peter Cushing was a close second to Rathbone in his portrayal in the 1959 " The Hound of the Baskervilles"




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    Jonny Lee Miller (pictured with Lucy Liu as Dr Watson) in the forthcoming US TV series Elementary
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