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    Jaysvdubwhat
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 3:38 AM ET #227

    does it really matter if he posts plays a few min after they start?  its a 9 inn game. 
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    does it really matter if he posts plays a few min after they start?  its a 9 inn game. 
     
    thedegenerate
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 3:45 AM ET #228

    i am dead serious.  what diff does it make unless you are 100% tailing him which you must be if you are that upset about it.  its not like he is he a tout or someone that is posting a record on here.  so what diff does it make????
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    i am dead serious.  what diff does it make unless you are 100% tailing him which you must be if you are that upset about it.  its not like he is he a tout or someone that is posting a record on here.  so what diff does it make????
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 3:46 AM ET #229

    also, i find it funny that you just joined the forum today.  lol.  welcome.........but i fear you will only be here a short time. 
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    also, i find it funny that you just joined the forum today.  lol.  welcome.........but i fear you will only be here a short time. 
     
    RayzHELL
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 8:57 AM ET #230

    Sunday is the day to take Seattle MARINERS--but only on the RL +1.5!! 


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    Sunday is the day to take Seattle MARINERS--but only on the RL +1.5!! 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 8:59 AM ET #231

    dude shut up

    thank you
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    dude shut up

    thank you
     
    RayzHELL
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:08 AM ET #232

    Nice call on the Washington NATIONALS Saturday.

     I'm sorry that I had the other side.
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    Nice call on the Washington NATIONALS Saturday.

     I'm sorry that I had the other side.
     
    Fairweatherfan
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:33 AM ET #233

    I blame the unemployment rate for all the hating in the thread, I put the unemployment rate of the Bator bashes at...ohhh...100%.  They just wish they had gone to college so they still might have a career and money to bet with king B.


    There's always centsports folks! 
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    I blame the unemployment rate for all the hating in the thread, I put the unemployment rate of the Bator bashes at...ohhh...100%.  They just wish they had gone to college so they still might have a career and money to bet with king B.


    There's always centsports folks! 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:44 AM ET #234

    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    keep playing with fire, see what will happen



    You bite the guys screen name, then bash him. Get out of here you schmuck.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    keep playing with fire, see what will happen



    You bite the guys screen name, then bash him. Get out of here you schmuck.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:48 AM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    if bator was so fucking good,

    he would post his picks every morning. the way he says he caps, i can see how he fucking sucks. he reads through piles of threads and sees what people are on? are you serious? thats how you cap a game? and why do you have to wait till game time or after 1st pitch to post your plays, post a thread, post your plays, and none of this, adding more units at different prices, people dont care. post your initial play and units. if your so good, then you shouldnt have a problem.
    why the O's today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    if bator was so fucking good,

    he would post his picks every morning. the way he says he caps, i can see how he fucking sucks. he reads through piles of threads and sees what people are on? are you serious? thats how you cap a game? and why do you have to wait till game time or after 1st pitch to post your plays, post a thread, post your plays, and none of this, adding more units at different prices, people dont care. post your initial play and units. if your so good, then you shouldnt have a problem.
    why the O's today?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:50 AM ET #236

    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    keep playing with fire, see what will happen

    Batorz why are you picking the O's today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    keep playing with fire, see what will happen

    Batorz why are you picking the O's today?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:54 AM ET #237

    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:





    bunch of fucking sheep
    Batorz why are you on the O's today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:





    bunch of fucking sheep
    Batorz why are you on the O's today?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:55 AM ET #238

    I see that this thread has included a monkey flinging his own feces at the wall over the last 8 hours, not to mention licking his own fingers clean.  Yuck. 
     
    What we have here is a classic case of a stunted loser doing an incredibly inept job of picking and choosing which games to tail.  I suspect that over the last two days, while I was picking up a disgusting 88 units in profit, he tailed on one game - the Red Sox yesterday afternoon, and they didn't even score.  That is so sad it's hilarious.  Then he didn't have the guts to follow on the big Nationals +180 play, and when the Nats cruised to an easy 5-2 win, he snapped.  Awesome.
     
     
     
     
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    I see that this thread has included a monkey flinging his own feces at the wall over the last 8 hours, not to mention licking his own fingers clean.  Yuck. 
     
    What we have here is a classic case of a stunted loser doing an incredibly inept job of picking and choosing which games to tail.  I suspect that over the last two days, while I was picking up a disgusting 88 units in profit, he tailed on one game - the Red Sox yesterday afternoon, and they didn't even score.  That is so sad it's hilarious.  Then he didn't have the guts to follow on the big Nationals +180 play, and when the Nats cruised to an easy 5-2 win, he snapped.  Awesome.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Keep flinging your own feces at the wall and licking your own fingers clean!
     
     
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    Keep flinging your own feces at the wall and licking your own fingers clean!
     
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 10:01 AM ET #240

    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    keep playing with fire, see what will happen

     

     

    Here's what will happen:     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batorz:

    keep playing with fire, see what will happen

     

     

    Here's what will happen:     

     
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    That kid for the O's is legit. Good Change and Slider and out of his hand they don't look much different.
     
    Oh, and there's the little fact that Halladay hates his GM and basically that entire organization for not trading him so while he won't do a classic dump job, you're not going to see his best efforts anymore. Far from it.
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    That kid for the O's is legit. Good Change and Slider and out of his hand they don't look much different.
     
    Oh, and there's the little fact that Halladay hates his GM and basically that entire organization for not trading him so while he won't do a classic dump job, you're not going to see his best efforts anymore. Far from it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 10:25 AM ET #242

    All i gotta say is that MrBator has been a fuckn cash cow this week and every basher needs to get the fuck out of here, be grateful, and hope he keeps posting his picks.  This run he is on is fuckn ridiculous.
    I mean the whole week he has lost like 5 or 6 games.  If you were unlucky enough to tail on them then sorry, but you should have tailed the 50 fuckn winners he gave us. Thanks to MrBator, regardless of what happens today, this week has been excellent.
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    All i gotta say is that MrBator has been a fuckn cash cow this week and every basher needs to get the fuck out of here, be grateful, and hope he keeps posting his picks.  This run he is on is fuckn ridiculous.
    I mean the whole week he has lost like 5 or 6 games.  If you were unlucky enough to tail on them then sorry, but you should have tailed the 50 fuckn winners he gave us. Thanks to MrBator, regardless of what happens today, this week has been excellent.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WomensRightsLOL:

    That kid for the O's is legit. Good Change and Slider and out of his hand they don't look much different.
     
    Oh, and there's the little fact that Halladay hates his GM and basically that entire organization for not trading him so while he won't do a classic dump job, you're not going to see his best efforts anymore. Far from it.
    thanks Batorz
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    Quote Originally Posted by WomensRightsLOL:

    That kid for the O's is legit. Good Change and Slider and out of his hand they don't look much different.
     
    Oh, and there's the little fact that Halladay hates his GM and basically that entire organization for not trading him so while he won't do a classic dump job, you're not going to see his best efforts anymore. Far from it.
    thanks Batorz
     
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     see that this thread has included a monkey flinging his own feces at the wall over the last 8 hours
     
    reminds me of 95% of Sat or Sun afternoon threads when football starts
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     see that this thread has included a monkey flinging his own feces at the wall over the last 8 hours
     
    reminds me of 95% of Sat or Sun afternoon threads when football starts
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 10:38 AM ET #245

    Uncle Bator,
     
    Happy Sunday morning to you.  Hmmmm... I wonder who MrB likes today 
     
     LET'S GO NATIONALS
        
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    Uncle Bator,
     
    Happy Sunday morning to you.  Hmmmm... I wonder who MrB likes today 
     
     LET'S GO NATIONALS
        
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 10:58 AM ET #246

    Bator, thanks for all the winners this week.  i hope the hot streak continues. 


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    Bator, thanks for all the winners this week.  i hope the hot streak continues. 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 11:07 AM ET #247

      Nats 
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 11:13 AM ET #249

    BATOR ITS MY 4TH YEAR FOLLOWIN YOU
    AND ITS MY 4TH YEAR MAKING MONEY
    MY ONLY DISSAPOINTMENT WAS THE S.B NEVER MIND YOURE THE BEST AND THANKS ALWAYS FOR POSTING



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    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +180 3,000.00  5,400.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148620639-1
    9 7:04pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,999.00 -5,999.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620672-1
    10 7:05pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,000.00 -5,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620883-1
    11 7:06pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners (-1.5) for Game +270 2,000.00 -2,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB Alternate Runlin (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
      57,999.00 67,841.00

      

       
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    BATOR ITS MY 4TH YEAR FOLLOWIN YOU
    AND ITS MY 4TH YEAR MAKING MONEY
    MY ONLY DISSAPOINTMENT WAS THE S.B NEVER MIND YOURE THE BEST AND THANKS ALWAYS FOR POSTING



    Graded Wagers
    Ticket Accepted Decided Type Description WagerPrice Stake +/-
    148612519-1
    1 3:58pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+1) for Game +136 10,000.00  13,600.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612519-2
    2 3:58pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals for Game +175 10,000.00  17,500.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612576-1
    3 3:59pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612610-1
    4 4:00pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612642-1
    5 4:00pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612669-1
    6 4:01pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (-1.5) for Game +355 3,000.00  10,650.00
    2 - 5
    MLB Alternate Runlin (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612707-1
    7 4:02pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals for Game +174 10,000.00  17,400.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612755-1
    8 4:03pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +180 3,000.00  5,400.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148620639-1
    9 7:04pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,999.00 -5,999.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620672-1
    10 7:05pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,000.00 -5,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620883-1
    11 7:06pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners (-1.5) for Game +270 2,000.00 -2,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB Alternate Runlin (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
      57,999.00 67,841.00

      

       
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBLTK:

    BATOR ITS MY 4TH YEAR FOLLOWIN YOU
    AND ITS MY 4TH YEAR MAKING MONEY
    MY ONLY DISSAPOINTMENT WAS THE S.B NEVER MIND YOURE THE BEST AND THANKS ALWAYS FOR POSTING



    Graded Wagers
    Ticket Accepted Decided Type Description WagerPrice Stake +/-
    148612519-1
    1 3:58pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+1) for Game +136 10,000.00  13,600.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612519-2
    2 3:58pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals for Game +175 10,000.00  17,500.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612576-1
    3 3:59pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612610-1
    4 4:00pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612642-1
    5 4:00pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612669-1
    6 4:01pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (-1.5) for Game +355 3,000.00  10,650.00
    2 - 5
    MLB Alternate Runlin (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612707-1
    7 4:02pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals for Game +174 10,000.00  17,400.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612755-1
    8 4:03pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +180 3,000.00  5,400.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148620639-1
    9 7:04pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,999.00 -5,999.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620672-1
    10 7:05pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,000.00 -5,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620883-1
    11 7:06pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners (-1.5) for Game +270 2,000.00 -2,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB Alternate Runlin (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
      57,999.00 67,841.00

      

       
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    BATOR ITS MY 4TH YEAR FOLLOWIN YOU
    AND ITS MY 4TH YEAR MAKING MONEY
    MY ONLY DISSAPOINTMENT WAS THE S.B NEVER MIND YOURE THE BEST AND THANKS ALWAYS FOR POSTING



    Graded Wagers
    Ticket Accepted Decided Type Description WagerPrice Stake +/-
    148612519-1
    1 3:58pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+1) for Game +136 10,000.00  13,600.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612519-2
    2 3:58pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals for Game +175 10,000.00  17,500.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612576-1
    3 3:59pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612610-1
    4 4:00pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612642-1
    5 4:00pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +181 3,000.00  5,430.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612669-1
    6 4:01pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (-1.5) for Game +355 3,000.00  10,650.00
    2 - 5
    MLB Alternate Runlin (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612707-1
    7 4:02pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals for Game +174 10,000.00  17,400.00
    2 - 5
    MLB (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148612755-1
    8 4:03pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Spread Arizona D-Backs vs Washington Nationals (+0) for 1st Half +180 3,000.00  5,400.00
    2 - 4
    MLB 1st Halfs (5 inn (D. Haren must start / G. Mock must start) 
    148620639-1
    9 7:04pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,999.00 -5,999.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620672-1
    10 7:05pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Money Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners for Game +132 5,000.00 -5,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
    148620883-1
    11 7:06pm 8-Aug-09 8-Aug-09 Baseball
    Run Line Tampa Bay Rays vs Seattle Mariners (-1.5) for Game +270 2,000.00 -2,000.00
    10 - 4
    MLB Alternate Runlin (J. Shields must start / I. Snell must start) 
      57,999.00 67,841.00

      

       
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