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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2025 - 8:04 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by gotime:

    The game is a home game for Baltimore not New York. This is a fact that your machine can not over look. I do not know who will win or a final score projection. Maybe you put the Yankees as the home team by mistake?

     

    As I already mentioned - that was my bad. I confused the machine by feeding NY Yankees vs BAL Orioles which in machine understanding means that Yankees are a home team. My feed overrides data entered previously by me and gathered by a machine, cause the last entry overrides previous ones if they contradict. Now, I had a feature that allowed machine argumentation, but that was interfering with the productivity as the machine was simply stopping confused in a maze of IFs and the latency was occurring. So, let me tell you that the latency is the biggest enemy in decision making when it comes to trading and betting as the linear progression puts you in the end of the que. Su, we decided to deactivate it till we would develop fully generative machine - machine that initiates

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotime:

    The game is a home game for Baltimore not New York. This is a fact that your machine can not over look. I do not know who will win or a final score projection. Maybe you put the Yankees as the home team by mistake?

     

    As I already mentioned - that was my bad. I confused the machine by feeding NY Yankees vs BAL Orioles which in machine understanding means that Yankees are a home team. My feed overrides data entered previously by me and gathered by a machine, cause the last entry overrides previous ones if they contradict. Now, I had a feature that allowed machine argumentation, but that was interfering with the productivity as the machine was simply stopping confused in a maze of IFs and the latency was occurring. So, let me tell you that the latency is the biggest enemy in decision making when it comes to trading and betting as the linear progression puts you in the end of the que. Su, we decided to deactivate it till we would develop fully generative machine - machine that initiates

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2025 - 10:26 PM ET #127

    Monday

    NY Mets ML  -167  $752 moneybag +$450

    NY Mets -1.5  -115  $173  moneybag +$150

    Under 9.5  -111  $167  an_burningbag-$167

    NY Yankees ML  -135  $203an_burningbag  -$203

    NY Yankees -1.5  +120  $150an_burningbag  -$150

    NY Yankees to win the Series -135  $203   Pending. The Orioles are leading 1-0 in a 3 game series

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    Monday

    NY Mets ML  -167  $752 moneybag +$450

    NY Mets -1.5  -115  $173  moneybag +$150

    Under 9.5  -111  $167  an_burningbag-$167

    NY Yankees ML  -135  $203an_burningbag  -$203

    NY Yankees -1.5  +120  $150an_burningbag  -$150

    NY Yankees to win the Series -135  $203   Pending. The Orioles are leading 1-0 in a 3 game series

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2025 - 10:30 PM ET #128

    2-3  +$80

    61-68 overall

    Current bankroll $6,538 - $+$80 - $203 (pending pick on series between the Yankees and the Orioles. Orioles are leading 1-0))  = $6,415

    This is a bankroll after doubling $5K into $10,391 and withdrawing $2,500.

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    2-3  +$80

    61-68 overall

    Current bankroll $6,538 - $+$80 - $203 (pending pick on series between the Yankees and the Orioles. Orioles are leading 1-0))  = $6,415

    This is a bankroll after doubling $5K into $10,391 and withdrawing $2,500.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 12:46 AM ET #129

    Is it only me Chat, or something doesn't work lately with your system? You seem to be going back and forward and stay at the same place. I do have a suggestion how to organize your idea and package it the way it will work. I spent much time studying your system. I think the system is great. The only thing that prevents you from really taking off is too much wight, if you know what I mean. You scatter yourself around and instead of sticking with your system as I saw you did during the process of doubling your bankroll - you're trying to be a "social" guy and draw an attention that doesn't easily come with seasoned and seen all old foxes. Stick with what you did in your first doubling cycle in your previous threads. 

    With great respect to you and admiration to what you dopeace_5

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    Is it only me Chat, or something doesn't work lately with your system? You seem to be going back and forward and stay at the same place. I do have a suggestion how to organize your idea and package it the way it will work. I spent much time studying your system. I think the system is great. The only thing that prevents you from really taking off is too much wight, if you know what I mean. You scatter yourself around and instead of sticking with your system as I saw you did during the process of doubling your bankroll - you're trying to be a "social" guy and draw an attention that doesn't easily come with seasoned and seen all old foxes. Stick with what you did in your first doubling cycle in your previous threads. 

    With great respect to you and admiration to what you dopeace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 1:46 AM ET #130

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudeShannon1:

    Is it only me Chat, or something doesn't work lately with your system? You seem to be going back and forward and stay at the same place. I do have a suggestion how to organize your idea and package it the way it will work. I spent much time studying your system. I think the system is great. The only thing that prevents you from really taking off is too much wight, if you know what I mean. You scatter yourself around and instead of sticking with your system as I saw you did during the process of doubling your bankroll - you're trying to be a "social" guy and draw an attention that doesn't easily come with seasoned and seen all old foxes. Stick with what you did in your first doubling cycle in your previous threads.  With great respect to you and admiration to what you do

    Thank you for your thorough comment. While I'm not sure if your suggestion -as you mentioned -  was embedded in a constructive criticism in a form of advice - or [quote] a suggestion how to organize my/our idea and package it  the way it will work[end quote] requires me to agree to receive it - here you go - please, write it right here in detail and I promise I will examine it.  I am open to any suggestions and opinions that will improve our system. peacepeace_5an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudeShannon1:

    Is it only me Chat, or something doesn't work lately with your system? You seem to be going back and forward and stay at the same place. I do have a suggestion how to organize your idea and package it the way it will work. I spent much time studying your system. I think the system is great. The only thing that prevents you from really taking off is too much wight, if you know what I mean. You scatter yourself around and instead of sticking with your system as I saw you did during the process of doubling your bankroll - you're trying to be a "social" guy and draw an attention that doesn't easily come with seasoned and seen all old foxes. Stick with what you did in your first doubling cycle in your previous threads.  With great respect to you and admiration to what you do

    Thank you for your thorough comment. While I'm not sure if your suggestion -as you mentioned -  was embedded in a constructive criticism in a form of advice - or [quote] a suggestion how to organize my/our idea and package it  the way it will work[end quote] requires me to agree to receive it - here you go - please, write it right here in detail and I promise I will examine it.  I am open to any suggestions and opinions that will improve our system. peacepeace_5an_light

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 1:52 AM ET #131

    A side note: I appreciate each and every person going out of his or her way and not only reading our posts - but also actively participating if it is by commenting or by engaging in a constructive discussion. However - please note that I am running this system regardless... I know for a fact that sports betting markets are not absolutely efficient and can be exploited with financial success. Time is on our side as technological advances allow us quick access to public domains storing data that with modern technological tools can be crunched with efficiency. Only thing that can stand in our way is our own nature and lack of discipline.an_light

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    A side note: I appreciate each and every person going out of his or her way and not only reading our posts - but also actively participating if it is by commenting or by engaging in a constructive discussion. However - please note that I am running this system regardless... I know for a fact that sports betting markets are not absolutely efficient and can be exploited with financial success. Time is on our side as technological advances allow us quick access to public domains storing data that with modern technological tools can be crunched with efficiency. Only thing that can stand in our way is our own nature and lack of discipline.an_light

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 5:35 AM ET #132

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     That is very good point. I do not have the tech knowledge you have. Although I have only been doing this for 55 years. Again I am not a tech person although I do know that tech is only as good as what humans enter. Very few people beat this game. I wish you the best of luck in your progress. I am from the old school of Lem, Dave, Mike, etc. They churned out everything on paper and relative thoughts. I am still trying to figure out if todays lines makers are sharper, or if players have now adjusted to the lines. My overall thought is if a person sticks to the basics they have a chance. Just betting teams to score x amount of runs or players to get a home run is not sound and wise betting. 

    The betting world has expanded so much. I still remember my best bet ever placed at Churchill downs with Gene Maday on Buster Douglas. I got 40-1. My basis was that Mike would not adjust to the time zone change.  

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     That is very good point. I do not have the tech knowledge you have. Although I have only been doing this for 55 years. Again I am not a tech person although I do know that tech is only as good as what humans enter. Very few people beat this game. I wish you the best of luck in your progress. I am from the old school of Lem, Dave, Mike, etc. They churned out everything on paper and relative thoughts. I am still trying to figure out if todays lines makers are sharper, or if players have now adjusted to the lines. My overall thought is if a person sticks to the basics they have a chance. Just betting teams to score x amount of runs or players to get a home run is not sound and wise betting. 

    The betting world has expanded so much. I still remember my best bet ever placed at Churchill downs with Gene Maday on Buster Douglas. I got 40-1. My basis was that Mike would not adjust to the time zone change.  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 7:32 AM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by gotime:

    @ChatBIN  That is very good point. I do not have the tech knowledge you have. Although I have only been doing this for 55 years. Again I am not a tech person although I do know that tech is only as good as what humans enter. Very few people beat this game. I wish you the best of luck in your progress. I am from the old school of Lem, Dave, Mike, etc. They churned out everything on paper and relative thoughts. I am still trying to figure out if todays lines makers are sharper, or if players have now adjusted to the lines. My overall thought is if a person sticks to the basics they have a chance. Just betting teams to score x amount of runs or players to get a home run is not sound and wise betting.  The betting world has expanded so much. I still remember my best bet ever placed at Churchill downs with Gene Maday on Buster Douglas. I got 40-1. My basis was that Mike would not adjust to the time zone change.
    I also wonder at times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotime:

    @ChatBIN  That is very good point. I do not have the tech knowledge you have. Although I have only been doing this for 55 years. Again I am not a tech person although I do know that tech is only as good as what humans enter. Very few people beat this game. I wish you the best of luck in your progress. I am from the old school of Lem, Dave, Mike, etc. They churned out everything on paper and relative thoughts. I am still trying to figure out if todays lines makers are sharper, or if players have now adjusted to the lines. My overall thought is if a person sticks to the basics they have a chance. Just betting teams to score x amount of runs or players to get a home run is not sound and wise betting.  The betting world has expanded so much. I still remember my best bet ever placed at Churchill downs with Gene Maday on Buster Douglas. I got 40-1. My basis was that Mike would not adjust to the time zone change.
    I also wonder at times...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 12:34 PM ET #134

    Tuesday

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    NY Yankees -1.5 +205 $450

    PHI Phillies -1.5  -116  $134

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    NY Yankees ML  -135  $608

    NY Yankees -1.5 +205 $450

    PHI Phillies -1.5  -116  $134

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 12:40 PM ET #135

    cloverBIN, keep up the good work.

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    cloverBIN, keep up the good work.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 1:09 PM ET #136

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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 1:51 PM ET #137

    Good luck Chatbin but I was wondering where you got a +205 NYY-1 1/2 line at ?

     

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    Good luck Chatbin but I was wondering where you got a +205 NYY-1 1/2 line at ?

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 2:30 PM ET #138

    Thank you now it’s to much easier to see what u pick lol. Good luck bro

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    Thank you now it’s to much easier to see what u pick lol. Good luck bro

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 4:29 PM ET #139

    Quote Originally Posted by finsterbaby:

    BIN, keep up the good work.
    Thanks peace_5You too clover

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    Quote Originally Posted by finsterbaby:

    BIN, keep up the good work.
    Thanks peace_5You too clover

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaGambler:

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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 4:39 PM ET #141

    Quote Originally Posted by EightIron:

    Good luck Chatbin but I was wondering where you got a +205 NYY-1 1/2 line at ?

     

    https://www.covers.com/sport/baseball/mlb/linemovement/nyy-at-bal/341690

    That's the whole line and odds history book by a book. While I am not going to promote any book here - you can find an answer to your question right here on Covers. And those odds were not the best I could get cause at some point they even became +111an_light

    Oh. Now I see what you mean. Yeah. +105. Happened before too that I posted wrong odds on the pick but when summing up a day the mistake was always corrected. Sorry for my typo. Part of the system testing is determining which way is more profitable? Betting flat with Decimal odds or betting using American odds where you either bet minus whatever to win the whole unit or bet the whole unit to win by plus money odds.

    Sorry for a confusion thou. You were absolutely right to call me out on that (now I sound like my machine :)

     

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    Good luck Chatbin but I was wondering where you got a +205 NYY-1 1/2 line at ?

     

    https://www.covers.com/sport/baseball/mlb/linemovement/nyy-at-bal/341690

    That's the whole line and odds history book by a book. While I am not going to promote any book here - you can find an answer to your question right here on Covers. And those odds were not the best I could get cause at some point they even became +111an_light

    Oh. Now I see what you mean. Yeah. +105. Happened before too that I posted wrong odds on the pick but when summing up a day the mistake was always corrected. Sorry for my typo. Part of the system testing is determining which way is more profitable? Betting flat with Decimal odds or betting using American odds where you either bet minus whatever to win the whole unit or bet the whole unit to win by plus money odds.

    Sorry for a confusion thou. You were absolutely right to call me out on that (now I sound like my machine :)

     

     
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    Simulation Engine Blueprint: Martingale Strategy Analysis

    ?? 1. Simulation Loop (10,000 runs)

    Each run simulates the entire strategy from April 28 to January 1, 2026.

    ?? 2. Strategy Inputs (from Master Data Sheet)

    From MLBMLATSmart sheet:

    • Source D = System (e.g., "Game Totals", "Series ML", etc.)
    • Source U = Win/Loss ("W" or "L")
    • Bets are triggered by previous result and strategy conditions
    • Teams tracked: dynamically determined each day

    ?? 3. Bankroll Logic

    • Starting Bankroll: 55 mBTC, increase with doubling cycle and withdraw half the profits
    • Current Bankroll: 70.5 mBTC
    • Withdrawn: 27.5 mBTC
    • Unit Size: 2 % of bankroll at start of each sequence (adjusted dynamically for HighBankroll sheet)
    • Stake Multiplier: MartingaleX3 (i.e., stake ×3 after each loss, reset to 1 unit after a win)
    • Cap versions: Stop increasing after Martingale stage 3/9/27/81 depending on the sheet
    • Outcome-based Betting:
      • Win: bankroll += win amount
      • Loss: bankroll -= bet amount

    ?? 4. Metrics to Track per Run

    • Final bankroll
    • Total profit
    • Total number of bets placed
    • Max Martingale stage reached
    • Longest losing streak
    • Number of busts (bankroll = 0)
    • ROI
    • Average bet size
    • System success (per category: Totals, Run Line, Series ML, etc.)

    ?? 5. Output: System Performance Comparison

    We’ll generate:

    • Table ranking all systems (by avg. ROI, risk, bust %)
    • Graphs: bankroll progression, bet volume, risk curves
    • Best performers by risk-adjusted return

    ?? Optional Add-ons:

    • Filter by team (simulate just Mets or Dodgers, etc.)
    • Add stop-loss rule (quit system if bankroll drops 50%)
    • Add streak protections (don’t bet if 2+ in a row losses)
    • Run with/without flat odds vs decimal odds
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    ?? 1. Simulation Loop (10,000 runs)

    Each run simulates the entire strategy from April 28 to January 1, 2026.

    ?? 2. Strategy Inputs (from Master Data Sheet)

    From MLBMLATSmart sheet:

    • Source D = System (e.g., "Game Totals", "Series ML", etc.)
    • Source U = Win/Loss ("W" or "L")
    • Bets are triggered by previous result and strategy conditions
    • Teams tracked: dynamically determined each day

    ?? 3. Bankroll Logic

    • Starting Bankroll: 55 mBTC, increase with doubling cycle and withdraw half the profits
    • Current Bankroll: 70.5 mBTC
    • Withdrawn: 27.5 mBTC
    • Unit Size: 2 % of bankroll at start of each sequence (adjusted dynamically for HighBankroll sheet)
    • Stake Multiplier: MartingaleX3 (i.e., stake ×3 after each loss, reset to 1 unit after a win)
    • Cap versions: Stop increasing after Martingale stage 3/9/27/81 depending on the sheet
    • Outcome-based Betting:
      • Win: bankroll += win amount
      • Loss: bankroll -= bet amount

    ?? 4. Metrics to Track per Run

    • Final bankroll
    • Total profit
    • Total number of bets placed
    • Max Martingale stage reached
    • Longest losing streak
    • Number of busts (bankroll = 0)
    • ROI
    • Average bet size
    • System success (per category: Totals, Run Line, Series ML, etc.)

    ?? 5. Output: System Performance Comparison

    We’ll generate:

    • Table ranking all systems (by avg. ROI, risk, bust %)
    • Graphs: bankroll progression, bet volume, risk curves
    • Best performers by risk-adjusted return

    ?? Optional Add-ons:

    • Filter by team (simulate just Mets or Dodgers, etc.)
    • Add stop-loss rule (quit system if bankroll drops 50%)
    • Add streak protections (don’t bet if 2+ in a row losses)
    • Run with/without flat odds vs decimal odds
    • <

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 7:21 PM ET #143

    Quote Originally Posted by Sportslover123:

    Thank you now it’s to much easier to see what u pick lol. Good luck bro
    peace_5

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    Thank you now it’s to much easier to see what u pick lol. Good luck bro
    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 9:32 PM ET #144

    On one hand I'm frustrated from the Phillies playing against their fans. On the other hand thou - I know they will pay us back . They already did once. 

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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2025 - 9:49 PM ET #145

    2-1  +$924

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    63-69 overall

    Current bankroll $7,339 We also have a pending bet on the Yankees to win the series. $203. The series are tied 1-1

    This is a bankroll after doubling $5K into $10,391 and withdrawing $2,500.

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    63-69 overall

    Current bankroll $7,339 We also have a pending bet on the Yankees to win the series. $203. The series are tied 1-1

    This is a bankroll after doubling $5K into $10,391 and withdrawing $2,500.

     
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    So is the system pretty much just picking heavy public favorites Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies every day? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDizzle23:

    So is the system pretty much just picking heavy public favorites Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies every day?

    No. Please read more about the pick selection process and I'm sure you will understand. While my picks and publicly popular picks may be the same in some or even many instances (I don't check if a pick is a public favourite or not per say)  - what matters is the overall financial bottom line. So, if following public picks can result in doubling your bankroll in less than a month, and even once in two months - my dear Watson - go on publicly favoured picks by all meanspeace_5
    Otherwise - I suggest you read the whole thread and the ones beforehand to fully understand that what we are putting our money on is not sexy and interesting games - but, utterly boring long term mathematically induced and calculated sequence of picks that result in a negative 63-69 w/l record, and at the same time doubling our initial bankroll. 

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    So is the system pretty much just picking heavy public favorites Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies every day?

    No. Please read more about the pick selection process and I'm sure you will understand. While my picks and publicly popular picks may be the same in some or even many instances (I don't check if a pick is a public favourite or not per say)  - what matters is the overall financial bottom line. So, if following public picks can result in doubling your bankroll in less than a month, and even once in two months - my dear Watson - go on publicly favoured picks by all meanspeace_5
    Otherwise - I suggest you read the whole thread and the ones beforehand to fully understand that what we are putting our money on is not sexy and interesting games - but, utterly boring long term mathematically induced and calculated sequence of picks that result in a negative 63-69 w/l record, and at the same time doubling our initial bankroll. 

     
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    Wednesday

    DET Tigers ML  +100  $150

    DET Tigers -1.5  +155  $150

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    NY Mets ML -109  $164

    NY Mets -1.5 +170  $100

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