I'm still using the voice dictation so apologies if the post has grammatical errors or is a little bit long. But I was just in the car and I heard a pretty captivating conversation with someone who runs one of the sports books in Vegas. He actually began by saying that Vegas has been cleaning up in baseball post All-Star break. He added that this is the most amount of runs scored after the All-Star break in the history of major league baseball. Stating that the league has actually made a concerted effort to try and drive scoring and thus viewership much in the same manner, the NFL, NBA, and NHL all intentionally overhauled their scoring to help bring more excitement to the game.
He said that never before have there been so many runs scored after the eighth inning and credits. This obviously to bad bullpens. But he went on to say that part of the reason the bullpens are so bad is because of the way they are comprised in today's game. It used to be that old, wily veterans, who used to be starters, would end their career in the bullpen. Additionally, starting pitchers would go seven innings or complete games even on a regular basis. That isn't the case anymore as viewers have all wanted to see guys who throw very hard versus guys who just get people out. Because, as you know, if these bigger, stronger hitters, get a hold of a 100 mph fastball. It will go a lot farther than 80 mph curveball.
Lastly, and not to be forgotten, the drastic shifts of the past handful of years are no longer. That means there are a lot more base runners, but otherwise would've hidden to an out. Just think back to how many times a middle infield are would be in the short outfield because of a shift and be able to get to a ball there otherwise would've been a single instead of creating an out. That lengthens the game.
And of course, finally, there is the pitch clock. This has created more injuries (especially if you speak to the pictures directly) and has attitude to more scoring, especially, he said, in the first standings. Which has yet another bet the public seems to love.
Just wanted to share what I heard because I thought it was really interesting and I've gotten ass slammed since I started posting after the All-Star break. There have been a couple guys on the forum that have been really good, but most have stubbornly been mediocre at best. This might help explain some of the why.
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I'm still using the voice dictation so apologies if the post has grammatical errors or is a little bit long. But I was just in the car and I heard a pretty captivating conversation with someone who runs one of the sports books in Vegas. He actually began by saying that Vegas has been cleaning up in baseball post All-Star break. He added that this is the most amount of runs scored after the All-Star break in the history of major league baseball. Stating that the league has actually made a concerted effort to try and drive scoring and thus viewership much in the same manner, the NFL, NBA, and NHL all intentionally overhauled their scoring to help bring more excitement to the game.
He said that never before have there been so many runs scored after the eighth inning and credits. This obviously to bad bullpens. But he went on to say that part of the reason the bullpens are so bad is because of the way they are comprised in today's game. It used to be that old, wily veterans, who used to be starters, would end their career in the bullpen. Additionally, starting pitchers would go seven innings or complete games even on a regular basis. That isn't the case anymore as viewers have all wanted to see guys who throw very hard versus guys who just get people out. Because, as you know, if these bigger, stronger hitters, get a hold of a 100 mph fastball. It will go a lot farther than 80 mph curveball.
Lastly, and not to be forgotten, the drastic shifts of the past handful of years are no longer. That means there are a lot more base runners, but otherwise would've hidden to an out. Just think back to how many times a middle infield are would be in the short outfield because of a shift and be able to get to a ball there otherwise would've been a single instead of creating an out. That lengthens the game.
And of course, finally, there is the pitch clock. This has created more injuries (especially if you speak to the pictures directly) and has attitude to more scoring, especially, he said, in the first standings. Which has yet another bet the public seems to love.
Just wanted to share what I heard because I thought it was really interesting and I've gotten ass slammed since I started posting after the All-Star break. There have been a couple guys on the forum that have been really good, but most have stubbornly been mediocre at best. This might help explain some of the why.
Interesting. And makes sense. Wonder how this correlates with the post-ASB timing of everything going crazy? It doesn't seem to have been a gradual thing but more abrupt.
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@LAGameofInches
Interesting. And makes sense. Wonder how this correlates with the post-ASB timing of everything going crazy? It doesn't seem to have been a gradual thing but more abrupt.
I don’t understand only throwing a reliever for one inning… you play to win the game… yet one guy who is throwing great… only pitches one inning. Let him throw 2-3… get the win… and don’t pitch him again until he’s ready… but get the win that is in front of you…..also this kinda seems odd as most guys are hitting 244… maybe more walks and errors overall. I lost 3 games last night that were part of 2 team RR parlays. Cleveland. Boston. And can’t think of other.
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@LAGameofInches
I don’t understand only throwing a reliever for one inning… you play to win the game… yet one guy who is throwing great… only pitches one inning. Let him throw 2-3… get the win… and don’t pitch him again until he’s ready… but get the win that is in front of you…..also this kinda seems odd as most guys are hitting 244… maybe more walks and errors overall. I lost 3 games last night that were part of 2 team RR parlays. Cleveland. Boston. And can’t think of other.
Yeah and the injuries to pitchers end up making teams use guys who might not even be ready for major league action. The guy who was interviewed also cited that so many under wagers are being lost in games that are one-sided. He points to teams just putting guys in for “mop up duty“ not really caring about the pitcher stats, but just wanting to finish off the game.
that has happened numerous times to me this year. I just watch a boatload of runs in the final two innings crushing my unders it seems nightly.
also worth mentioning was bad and inconsistent umpiring. He pointed to a game between San Diego and St. Louis on Sunday that had a whopping five runs more scored based on a plethora of missed calls by the home plate umpire leading to the game going over.
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Yeah and the injuries to pitchers end up making teams use guys who might not even be ready for major league action. The guy who was interviewed also cited that so many under wagers are being lost in games that are one-sided. He points to teams just putting guys in for “mop up duty“ not really caring about the pitcher stats, but just wanting to finish off the game.
that has happened numerous times to me this year. I just watch a boatload of runs in the final two innings crushing my unders it seems nightly.
also worth mentioning was bad and inconsistent umpiring. He pointed to a game between San Diego and St. Louis on Sunday that had a whopping five runs more scored based on a plethora of missed calls by the home plate umpire leading to the game going over.
I'm still using the voice dictation so apologies if the post has grammatical errors or is a little bit long. But I was just in the car and I heard a pretty captivating conversation with someone who runs one of the sports books in Vegas. He actually began by saying that Vegas has been cleaning up in baseball post All-Star break. He added that this is the most amount of runs scored after the All-Star break in the history of major league baseball. Stating that the league has actually made a concerted effort to try and drive scoring and thus viewership much in the same manner, the NFL, NBA, and NHL all intentionally overhauled their scoring to help bring more excitement to the game. He said that never before have there been so many runs scored after the eighth inning and credits. This obviously to bad bullpens. But he went on to say that part of the reason the bullpens are so bad is because of the way they are comprised in today's game. It used to be that old, wily veterans, who used to be starters, would end their career in the bullpen. Additionally, starting pitchers would go seven innings or complete games even on a regular basis. That isn't the case anymore as viewers have all wanted to see guys who throw very hard versus guys who just get people out. Because, as you know, if these bigger, stronger hitters, get a hold of a 100 mph fastball. It will go a lot farther than 80 mph curveball. Lastly, and not to be forgotten, the drastic shifts of the past handful of years are no longer. That means there are a lot more base runners, but otherwise would've hidden to an out. Just think back to how many times a middle infield are would be in the short outfield because of a shift and be able to get to a ball there otherwise would've been a single instead of creating an out. That lengthens the game. And of course, finally, there is the pitch clock. This has created more injuries (especially if you speak to the pictures directly) and has attitude to more scoring, especially, he said, in the first standings. Which has yet another bet the public seems to love. Just wanted to share what I heard because I thought it was really interesting and I've gotten ass slammed since I started posting after the All-Star break. There have been a couple guys on the forum that have been really good, but most have stubbornly been mediocre at best. This might help explain some of the why.
Were they at Camden Yards when they conducted this dialogue, lol
Wow!
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Quote Originally Posted by LAGameofInches:
I'm still using the voice dictation so apologies if the post has grammatical errors or is a little bit long. But I was just in the car and I heard a pretty captivating conversation with someone who runs one of the sports books in Vegas. He actually began by saying that Vegas has been cleaning up in baseball post All-Star break. He added that this is the most amount of runs scored after the All-Star break in the history of major league baseball. Stating that the league has actually made a concerted effort to try and drive scoring and thus viewership much in the same manner, the NFL, NBA, and NHL all intentionally overhauled their scoring to help bring more excitement to the game. He said that never before have there been so many runs scored after the eighth inning and credits. This obviously to bad bullpens. But he went on to say that part of the reason the bullpens are so bad is because of the way they are comprised in today's game. It used to be that old, wily veterans, who used to be starters, would end their career in the bullpen. Additionally, starting pitchers would go seven innings or complete games even on a regular basis. That isn't the case anymore as viewers have all wanted to see guys who throw very hard versus guys who just get people out. Because, as you know, if these bigger, stronger hitters, get a hold of a 100 mph fastball. It will go a lot farther than 80 mph curveball. Lastly, and not to be forgotten, the drastic shifts of the past handful of years are no longer. That means there are a lot more base runners, but otherwise would've hidden to an out. Just think back to how many times a middle infield are would be in the short outfield because of a shift and be able to get to a ball there otherwise would've been a single instead of creating an out. That lengthens the game. And of course, finally, there is the pitch clock. This has created more injuries (especially if you speak to the pictures directly) and has attitude to more scoring, especially, he said, in the first standings. Which has yet another bet the public seems to love. Just wanted to share what I heard because I thought it was really interesting and I've gotten ass slammed since I started posting after the All-Star break. There have been a couple guys on the forum that have been really good, but most have stubbornly been mediocre at best. This might help explain some of the why.
Were they at Camden Yards when they conducted this dialogue, lol
Very good info and we all have seen our money go up in flames after the 7th inning . SO Ive never done this but have started to play only 5 innings WOW what a difference . I WOULD GIVE IT A TRY you will start seeing the $$$ come back in your bank .
ROCK
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@Jhizzle13
Very good info and we all have seen our money go up in flames after the 7th inning . SO Ive never done this but have started to play only 5 innings WOW what a difference . I WOULD GIVE IT A TRY you will start seeing the $$$ come back in your bank .
@Jhizzle13 Very good info and we all have seen our money go up in flames after the 7th inning . SO Ive never done this but have started to play only 5 innings WOW what a difference . I WOULD GIVE IT A TRY you will start seeing the $$$ come back in your bank .
Actually… the guy made a comment regarding that. He stated that first five UNDERS have actually done very well since the ASB this year. Can't believe I forgot to include that part. Just very little value in trying to grab full game unders with these bullpens and the weather which has made record highs in many cities. Just so we all understand when it's a "record high" it means there's never been heat like this which means there probably hasn't been much baseball played in heat like this lol.
Either way, good luck
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Quote Originally Posted by ROCKDEMANSPORTS:
@Jhizzle13 Very good info and we all have seen our money go up in flames after the 7th inning . SO Ive never done this but have started to play only 5 innings WOW what a difference . I WOULD GIVE IT A TRY you will start seeing the $$$ come back in your bank .
Actually… the guy made a comment regarding that. He stated that first five UNDERS have actually done very well since the ASB this year. Can't believe I forgot to include that part. Just very little value in trying to grab full game unders with these bullpens and the weather which has made record highs in many cities. Just so we all understand when it's a "record high" it means there's never been heat like this which means there probably hasn't been much baseball played in heat like this lol.
Great info. I built a large bankroll based on unders before ASB. Since the break, it's been unders that look good until about the 7th inning and then boom, explosion of runs.
I believe this humidity and heat are the main culprits for regular fly balls that become gome runs...along with the other factors you mentioned.
Im taking a break until this passes, if it does.
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Great info. I built a large bankroll based on unders before ASB. Since the break, it's been unders that look good until about the 7th inning and then boom, explosion of runs.
I believe this humidity and heat are the main culprits for regular fly balls that become gome runs...along with the other factors you mentioned.
The 2nd Blue Jays/Oriole game looks like an easy over. Oriole pitcher over 23 pitches top of the first. 0-0
I got so incredibly lucky I played NRFI due to both pitchers being really good early (if you can believe Jacob Young is actually really solid lol) and somehow avoided a bases loaded 3 ball count for a needed W.
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Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:
The 2nd Blue Jays/Oriole game looks like an easy over. Oriole pitcher over 23 pitches top of the first. 0-0
I got so incredibly lucky I played NRFI due to both pitchers being really good early (if you can believe Jacob Young is actually really solid lol) and somehow avoided a bases loaded 3 ball count for a needed W.
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