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    Angels with Kazmir at home +126, whos with me?

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:35 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    The Yankees are the better team with the better starter, better lineup, better bullpen, and the best closer in the history of the sport. 

     

     

    That's good, because they need every edge they can get to overcome their mentally deficient skipper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    The Yankees are the better team with the better starter, better lineup, better bullpen, and the best closer in the history of the sport. 

     

     

    That's good, because they need every edge they can get to overcome their mentally deficient skipper.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:36 PM ET #77

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:37 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by DTher85:



    I hope you're right. If the Halos win tonight I win my bonehead series bet on the Halos/Yanks series going at least 6 games.

    I took 2 bets out on "when will the series end?" prop
    Game 6 +175
    Game 7 +200

    I didn't realize at the time that I was essentially paying -200 for over 5.5 games.


    Right now its not that bad. I would take the Angels -200 to win at least one of  the next two games at home. Remember game 5 is Lackey/Burnett.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTher85:



    I hope you're right. If the Halos win tonight I win my bonehead series bet on the Halos/Yanks series going at least 6 games.

    I took 2 bets out on "when will the series end?" prop
    Game 6 +175
    Game 7 +200

    I didn't realize at the time that I was essentially paying -200 for over 5.5 games.


    Right now its not that bad. I would take the Angels -200 to win at least one of  the next two games at home. Remember game 5 is Lackey/Burnett.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:39 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

     The line at -130 would mean that the Yanks would have to win this game more than 57% of the time to be profitable...I think they would win with tonight's matchup at a much higher clip than this...especially in this spot knowing they win here with their ace on the mound the series is all but over.

     

     

    So what you're saying is that the Yankees would play better than .570 ball in this same situation against a team that's played .620 ball at home this season over 84 home games. 

     

    You need to re-think that one, sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

     The line at -130 would mean that the Yanks would have to win this game more than 57% of the time to be profitable...I think they would win with tonight's matchup at a much higher clip than this...especially in this spot knowing they win here with their ace on the mound the series is all but over.

     

     

    So what you're saying is that the Yankees would play better than .570 ball in this same situation against a team that's played .620 ball at home this season over 84 home games. 

     

    You need to re-think that one, sir.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I think you should be answering this question for the ANGELS and not the Yankees.  Kazmir NEVER goes deep into games and the Angels bullpen isn't shut down...not to mention that their relievers threw many more pitches than the Yanks' pen yesterday.  But since you asked the question you did, the answer is quite simpler than "NOBODY"....Sabathia on short rest or not can bring the game to the 7th or 8th and then you have Joba (10 pitches yest.), Marte (1), Coke (3), Hughes (19), Rivera (17), Robertson (11), Aceves (3)...combined 68 pitches from the pen compared to the Angels 94 pitches (which includes 28 from their most reliable reliever Darren Oliver).

    The Yankees are the better team with the better starter, better lineup, better bullpen, and the best closer in the history of the sport.  The line at -130 would mean that the Yanks would have to win this game more than 57% of the time to be profitable...I think they would win with tonight's matchup at a much higher clip than this...especially in this spot knowing they win here with their ace on the mound the series is all but over.

    I posted that last night without digging up stats and actually looking at the BP numbers from the game.  With that being said, I love how we can debate about these types of things.  Last night I said I wasn't gonna bet on emotion, so I didn't.  I am trying to become a better capper in the process!

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I think you should be answering this question for the ANGELS and not the Yankees.  Kazmir NEVER goes deep into games and the Angels bullpen isn't shut down...not to mention that their relievers threw many more pitches than the Yanks' pen yesterday.  But since you asked the question you did, the answer is quite simpler than "NOBODY"....Sabathia on short rest or not can bring the game to the 7th or 8th and then you have Joba (10 pitches yest.), Marte (1), Coke (3), Hughes (19), Rivera (17), Robertson (11), Aceves (3)...combined 68 pitches from the pen compared to the Angels 94 pitches (which includes 28 from their most reliable reliever Darren Oliver).

    The Yankees are the better team with the better starter, better lineup, better bullpen, and the best closer in the history of the sport.  The line at -130 would mean that the Yanks would have to win this game more than 57% of the time to be profitable...I think they would win with tonight's matchup at a much higher clip than this...especially in this spot knowing they win here with their ace on the mound the series is all but over.

    I posted that last night without digging up stats and actually looking at the BP numbers from the game.  With that being said, I love how we can debate about these types of things.  Last night I said I wasn't gonna bet on emotion, so I didn't.  I am trying to become a better capper in the process!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:43 PM ET #81

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:50 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by Ima-Focker:

    I posted that last night without digging up stats and actually looking at the BP numbers from the game.  With that being said, I love how we can debate about these types of things.  Last night I said I wasn't gonna bet on emotion, so I didn't.  I am trying to become a better capper in the process!

     likewise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ima-Focker:

    I posted that last night without digging up stats and actually looking at the BP numbers from the game.  With that being said, I love how we can debate about these types of things.  Last night I said I wasn't gonna bet on emotion, so I didn't.  I am trying to become a better capper in the process!

     likewise!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:55 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    So what you're saying is that the Yankees would play better than .570 ball in this same situation against a team that's played .620 ball at home this season over 84 home games. 

     

    You need to re-think that one, sir.

    I just took your advice and thought about it again and here is what I came up with: I don't think the Angels would have played .620 ball at home this year if they played the Yankees in over 84 home games.

    After racking my brain again yes I do think the Yanks would win this exact matchup over 57% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    So what you're saying is that the Yankees would play better than .570 ball in this same situation against a team that's played .620 ball at home this season over 84 home games. 

     

    You need to re-think that one, sir.

    I just took your advice and thought about it again and here is what I came up with: I don't think the Angels would have played .620 ball at home this year if they played the Yankees in over 84 home games.

    After racking my brain again yes I do think the Yanks would win this exact matchup over 57% of the time.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:55 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That's good, because they need every edge they can get to overcome their mentally deficient skipper.

    And to this point, yes I agree they need every edge with that dimwit Girardi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That's good, because they need every edge they can get to overcome their mentally deficient skipper.

    And to this point, yes I agree they need every edge with that dimwit Girardi.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:04 PM ET #85

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:07 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I just took your advice and thought about it again and here is what I came up with: I don't think the Angels would have played .620 ball at home this year if they played the Yankees in over 84 home games.

     

     

    That's what you came up with.  Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I just took your advice and thought about it again and here is what I came up with: I don't think the Angels would have played .620 ball at home this year if they played the Yankees in over 84 home games.

     

     

    That's what you came up with.  Wow.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:08 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    After racking my brain again yes I do think the Yanks would win this exact matchup over 57% of the time.

     

     

    Try racking some more because that wasn't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    After racking my brain again yes I do think the Yanks would win this exact matchup over 57% of the time.

     

     

    Try racking some more because that wasn't enough.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:08 PM ET #88

    it's funny how you Bator change your thoughts ..all you needed was a loss taking the yanks and your mindset has completely changed
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    it's funny how you Bator change your thoughts ..all you needed was a loss taking the yanks and your mindset has completely changed
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I think you should be answering this question for the ANGELS and not the Yankees.  Kazmir NEVER goes deep into games and the Angels bullpen isn't shut down...not to mention that their relievers threw many more pitches than the Yanks' pen yesterday.  But since you asked the question you did, the answer is quite simpler than "NOBODY"....Sabathia on short rest or not can bring the game to the 7th or 8th and then you have Joba (10 pitches yest.), Marte (1), Coke (3), Hughes (19), Rivera (17), Robertson (11), Aceves (3)...combined 68 pitches from the pen compared to the Angels 94 pitches (which includes 28 from their most reliable reliever Darren Oliver).

    The Yankees are the better team with the better starter, better lineup, better bullpen, and the best closer in the history of the sport.  The line at -130 would mean that the Yanks would have to win this game more than 57% of the time to be profitable...I think they would win with tonight's matchup at a much higher clip than this...especially in this spot knowing they win here with their ace on the mound the series is all but over.




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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I think you should be answering this question for the ANGELS and not the Yankees.  Kazmir NEVER goes deep into games and the Angels bullpen isn't shut down...not to mention that their relievers threw many more pitches than the Yanks' pen yesterday.  But since you asked the question you did, the answer is quite simpler than "NOBODY"....Sabathia on short rest or not can bring the game to the 7th or 8th and then you have Joba (10 pitches yest.), Marte (1), Coke (3), Hughes (19), Rivera (17), Robertson (11), Aceves (3)...combined 68 pitches from the pen compared to the Angels 94 pitches (which includes 28 from their most reliable reliever Darren Oliver).

    The Yankees are the better team with the better starter, better lineup, better bullpen, and the best closer in the history of the sport.  The line at -130 would mean that the Yanks would have to win this game more than 57% of the time to be profitable...I think they would win with tonight's matchup at a much higher clip than this...especially in this spot knowing they win here with their ace on the mound the series is all but over.




     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:12 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That's what you came up with.  Wow.

    I couldn't have done it without you being there to give me that extra push.

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    That's what you came up with.  Wow.

    I couldn't have done it without you being there to give me that extra push.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That's good, because they need every edge they can get to overcome their mentally deficient skipper.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    That's good, because they need every edge they can get to overcome their mentally deficient skipper.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompilio:

                                   RL +1.5 = BEST BET

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    LOVE IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompilio:

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    LOVE IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I just took your advice and thought about it again and here is what I came up with: I don't think the Angels would have played .620 ball at home this year if they played the Yankees in over 84 home games.

    After racking my brain again yes I do think the Yanks would win this exact matchup over 57% of the time.



    The Angels were 4-2 against the Yankees at home this year. The Angels were 1-0 against CC at home this year.

    just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    I just took your advice and thought about it again and here is what I came up with: I don't think the Angels would have played .620 ball at home this year if they played the Yankees in over 84 home games.

    After racking my brain again yes I do think the Yanks would win this exact matchup over 57% of the time.



    The Angels were 4-2 against the Yankees at home this year. The Angels were 1-0 against CC at home this year.

    just saying...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:33 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



    The Angels were 4-2 against the Yankees at home this year. The Angels were 1-0 against CC at home this year.

    just saying...

    Too bad we can't see how it would play out over 84...just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



    The Angels were 4-2 against the Yankees at home this year. The Angels were 1-0 against CC at home this year.

    just saying...

    Too bad we can't see how it would play out over 84...just saying...

     
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    the yankees are coming to play tonight.  dont think the angels will win if they're loading the bases and not scoring in extra innings.  think the yankees will roll once thee are some people on base when the homers go off. the best team in baseball won't lose two nights in a row after some bullshit.  yankees -132 exactly where it should be... 
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    the yankees are coming to play tonight.  dont think the angels will win if they're loading the bases and not scoring in extra innings.  think the yankees will roll once thee are some people on base when the homers go off. the best team in baseball won't lose two nights in a row after some bullshit.  yankees -132 exactly where it should be... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:44 PM ET #96

    This thread is for people who are backing me by taking the Angels, not for Yankee homers to come in here and tell us how great their team is. Move on
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    This thread is for people who are backing me by taking the Angels, not for Yankee homers to come in here and tell us how great their team is. Move on
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:44 PM ET #97

    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    Too bad we can't see how it would play out over 84...just saying...



    no, in that sense we will never know.

    but as long as you think they will win 57% of the time, I guess thats good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddicer:

    Too bad we can't see how it would play out over 84...just saying...



    no, in that sense we will never know.

    but as long as you think they will win 57% of the time, I guess thats good enough.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:46 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by ebbottom:

    the yankees are coming to play tonight.  dont think the angels will win if they're loading the bases and not scoring in extra innings.  think the yankees will roll once thee are some people on base when the homers go off. the best team in baseball won't lose two nights in a row after some bullshit.  yankees -132 exactly where it should be... 
    Are you saying the Yankees didn't show up yesterday? You do make an excellent point though - the Angels are getting baserunners on which says they are hitting the over rated Yankee relievers, aside from Rivera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbottom:

    the yankees are coming to play tonight.  dont think the angels will win if they're loading the bases and not scoring in extra innings.  think the yankees will roll once thee are some people on base when the homers go off. the best team in baseball won't lose two nights in a row after some bullshit.  yankees -132 exactly where it should be... 
    Are you saying the Yankees didn't show up yesterday? You do make an excellent point though - the Angels are getting baserunners on which says they are hitting the over rated Yankee relievers, aside from Rivera.
     
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                                                           hosting the yanks,

                                              RL is 3 - 0

                           in last    3     hme    games . . .

                                                           

     

     

     

     

     

     

                                                       

     

                                                                 as a PUP !!!!!

     

     

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                                                           hosting the yanks,

                                              RL is 3 - 0

                           in last    3     hme    games . . .

                                                           

     

     

     

     

     

     

                                                       

     

                                                                 as a PUP !!!!!

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 3:46 PM ET #100

    Quote Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



    no, in that sense we will never know.

    but as long as you think they will win 57% of the time, I guess thats good enough.

    I wish what I thought had an impact on the outcome....this is all just a crap shoot we can find reasons to back any team at any time...thats why they play the games...BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



    no, in that sense we will never know.

    but as long as you think they will win 57% of the time, I guess thats good enough.

    I wish what I thought had an impact on the outcome....this is all just a crap shoot we can find reasons to back any team at any time...thats why they play the games...BOL

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