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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 3:12 PM ET #26

    Vermeer,

    Yep...I remember seeing this crap during the .COM bubble..the underwriters would come in a few months after the IPO and put buy ratings on stocks, then sell out their free shares from under the retail investors.

    This might seem crazy fellas but I think the mutual funds are running the good looking stocks up into the end of the quarter to show them on their books..the big winners like GRMN, AAPL, RIMM, FSLR, DRYS, EXM etc and it goes against strong trading strategy but I am willing to do a little gambling on some October puts on a few of these names. It might be early today, so over the next few days I might leg into some puts..

    Some of these moves are unwarranted and out of control and it doesnt sit right with me.

    BIDU a triple since May??????
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    Vermeer,

    Yep...I remember seeing this crap during the .COM bubble..the underwriters would come in a few months after the IPO and put buy ratings on stocks, then sell out their free shares from under the retail investors.

    This might seem crazy fellas but I think the mutual funds are running the good looking stocks up into the end of the quarter to show them on their books..the big winners like GRMN, AAPL, RIMM, FSLR, DRYS, EXM etc and it goes against strong trading strategy but I am willing to do a little gambling on some October puts on a few of these names. It might be early today, so over the next few days I might leg into some puts..

    Some of these moves are unwarranted and out of control and it doesnt sit right with me.

    BIDU a triple since May??????
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 4:02 PM ET #27

    SQNM ran from $5.70 to close $6.15 after I mentioned it.  Up 16% today, just short of its 52wh set last year.  Keep an eye on this, huge momentum play here as well as value growth.  I'm calling 10 bucks by the end of the year.
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    SQNM ran from $5.70 to close $6.15 after I mentioned it.  Up 16% today, just short of its 52wh set last year.  Keep an eye on this, huge momentum play here as well as value growth.  I'm calling 10 bucks by the end of the year.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 4:19 PM ET #28

    CMGI missed, stock getting hammered in after hours.
     
     
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    CMGI missed, stock getting hammered in after hours.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 4:27 PM ET #29

    CMGI is hilarious, a 3/4 billion dollar market cap blast from the past with margins like SUNW, selling at less than 1 times sales.

    Another no way no how stock.


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    CMGI is hilarious, a 3/4 billion dollar market cap blast from the past with margins like SUNW, selling at less than 1 times sales.

    Another no way no how stock.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 4:31 PM ET #30

    Regarding CMGI:
     
    I haven't had a chance to read the financial report, I'll have to do that tonight.  But did I see in there they are doing a reverse stock split?
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    Regarding CMGI:
     
    I haven't had a chance to read the financial report, I'll have to do that tonight.  But did I see in there they are doing a reverse stock split?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 4:39 PM ET #31

    Grid,

    yep a nice and tasty 1 for 10 reverse..

    lmfao

    Just like their cousin Ciena..
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    Grid,

    yep a nice and tasty 1 for 10 reverse..

    lmfao

    Just like their cousin Ciena..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 5:45 PM ET #32

    Hey, one way to boost a stock price I guess.
     
    I'll be watching this system very closely.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Hey, one way to boost a stock price I guess.
     
    I'll be watching this system very closely.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 7:24 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Jeff,

    Check this fert stock out..small market cap and China to boot-

    NOEC

    Koaj, the boys have a hold of SNUS, 5 M shares traded and a 6 cent range..prop traders paradise..


     What caused the pop in this? Is it the  magic word "Chinese" added to the other "fertilizer stock."????
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Jeff,

    Check this fert stock out..small market cap and China to boot-

    NOEC

    Koaj, the boys have a hold of SNUS, 5 M shares traded and a 6 cent range..prop traders paradise..


     What caused the pop in this? Is it the  magic word "Chinese" added to the other "fertilizer stock."????
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 7:58 PM ET #34

    Vermeer,

    Yep..same reason old boring Monsanto has been moving.

    Looking at the numbers, that NOEC isnt a bloated pig actually...
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    Vermeer,

    Yep..same reason old boring Monsanto has been moving.

    Looking at the numbers, that NOEC isnt a bloated pig actually...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 9:09 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    SQNM-

    At least it is forming an uptrend. I dont like seeing a 1 for 3 last year, and I think they STILL have too many shares outstanding at 40 plus million.

    Margins are not good, they sell at big ratios to sales and book. Good for you that recently they filled the tank on cash (I imagine by selling stock) so dilution wont hit you in the near term.

    In order for them to start making money, they will have to increase sales by about 3 times what they currently are. (go to the income statement and equate their gross margin which is about 58%, then find out operating expenses and you will see break even).

    So if you think they will triple sales in the next few years then the risk is worth the reward.


    This was a pretty good article from Seeking Alpha on why current revs and margins are not really reflective of true value here.  I'd also add that the recent news shows that their products are going to have uses for cancer detection and profiling.

    Steve B. submits: Sequenom (NasdaqGM: SQNM - News) is a genetic lab company. We found it on an insider buying list when the CFO and other execs were buying a ton of stock in the open market. At first glance SQNM may look expensive. They have the best in breed gene sequencing system called MassArray that is growing 30% or so a year.

    Recurring revenue (total 07 REV is about 42mil) comes from the service of these systems and disposable units used in the gene work. The Market Cap of the company is about 200 mil, so the question was why are the execs buying so much stock? SQNM is developing a series of non-invasive prenatal diagnostics for various birth defects. These tests are currently administered in the 3rd trimester through a fluid draw with an amnio needle. The SQNM test uses nucleic acid in fetal DNA found in maternal blood from a blood draw instead of the amnio fluid. What makes this significant is the amnio test has a 1% to 2% accidental abortion rate, is performed in the 3rd trimester, and has not proved to be 100% accurate.

    The SQNM test in trials has proved to be 100% accurate in the 2nd trimester for detecting Down Syndrome and RhD (a condition where the mothers blood and the fetal blood do not match up) and has no risk of an accidental abortion. SQNM’s test is more accurate, earlier, and has no risk of accidental abortion. The RhD test should be ready for approval in the next few weeks and the Downs test by the back half of 08. During the last conference call the time line for the test was moved up significantly.

    The market for the RhD test currently is small, 30mil to 50mil tests per year (as stated in the last conference call). Recently a panel of prenatal doctors recommended that all pregnant women be tested for 4 test (one being Downs) by the start of 08; now only women over 35 have to be tested. The market for the downs test, according to the company, is over 1 billion for 2007 and will grow into 2008. SQNM also announced in the last CC that they are constantly finding new applications for their testing system that could add even more potential market share.

    If everything is approved, as it is much easier to get a diagnostic test approved then a drug, the downs test will become the gold standard for all pregnant women in the US. Overnight a billion dollars worth of amnio sales are going to go away from the large medical supply companies. SQNM will not be around this time next year if they are going to get approval. A med company like this should get at least 2x revs if not 3x so if you do the math, 1B in Downs test sales at 2x revenues makes SQNM $50 (1B x 2 / 40mil shares).

    The latest Conference Call is about the most bullish CC I have heard in a long time. The company beat on revenues and bottom line estimates. The company would also be profitable if not for the diagnostic research.? They raised guidance and moved up all the timelines for the prenatal test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    SQNM-

    At least it is forming an uptrend. I dont like seeing a 1 for 3 last year, and I think they STILL have too many shares outstanding at 40 plus million.

    Margins are not good, they sell at big ratios to sales and book. Good for you that recently they filled the tank on cash (I imagine by selling stock) so dilution wont hit you in the near term.

    In order for them to start making money, they will have to increase sales by about 3 times what they currently are. (go to the income statement and equate their gross margin which is about 58%, then find out operating expenses and you will see break even).

    So if you think they will triple sales in the next few years then the risk is worth the reward.


    This was a pretty good article from Seeking Alpha on why current revs and margins are not really reflective of true value here.  I'd also add that the recent news shows that their products are going to have uses for cancer detection and profiling.

    Steve B. submits: Sequenom (NasdaqGM: SQNM - News) is a genetic lab company. We found it on an insider buying list when the CFO and other execs were buying a ton of stock in the open market. At first glance SQNM may look expensive. They have the best in breed gene sequencing system called MassArray that is growing 30% or so a year.

    Recurring revenue (total 07 REV is about 42mil) comes from the service of these systems and disposable units used in the gene work. The Market Cap of the company is about 200 mil, so the question was why are the execs buying so much stock? SQNM is developing a series of non-invasive prenatal diagnostics for various birth defects. These tests are currently administered in the 3rd trimester through a fluid draw with an amnio needle. The SQNM test uses nucleic acid in fetal DNA found in maternal blood from a blood draw instead of the amnio fluid. What makes this significant is the amnio test has a 1% to 2% accidental abortion rate, is performed in the 3rd trimester, and has not proved to be 100% accurate.

    The SQNM test in trials has proved to be 100% accurate in the 2nd trimester for detecting Down Syndrome and RhD (a condition where the mothers blood and the fetal blood do not match up) and has no risk of an accidental abortion. SQNM’s test is more accurate, earlier, and has no risk of accidental abortion. The RhD test should be ready for approval in the next few weeks and the Downs test by the back half of 08. During the last conference call the time line for the test was moved up significantly.

    The market for the RhD test currently is small, 30mil to 50mil tests per year (as stated in the last conference call). Recently a panel of prenatal doctors recommended that all pregnant women be tested for 4 test (one being Downs) by the start of 08; now only women over 35 have to be tested. The market for the downs test, according to the company, is over 1 billion for 2007 and will grow into 2008. SQNM also announced in the last CC that they are constantly finding new applications for their testing system that could add even more potential market share.

    If everything is approved, as it is much easier to get a diagnostic test approved then a drug, the downs test will become the gold standard for all pregnant women in the US. Overnight a billion dollars worth of amnio sales are going to go away from the large medical supply companies. SQNM will not be around this time next year if they are going to get approval. A med company like this should get at least 2x revs if not 3x so if you do the math, 1B in Downs test sales at 2x revenues makes SQNM $50 (1B x 2 / 40mil shares).

    The latest Conference Call is about the most bullish CC I have heard in a long time. The company beat on revenues and bottom line estimates. The company would also be profitable if not for the diagnostic research.? They raised guidance and moved up all the timelines for the prenatal test.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 9:14 PM ET #36

    That is definately a bullish position to the stock..if things pan as they say and no additional floating, those numbers COULD come in..but 3 times revenues? I dont know if a company who is past the exploration phase and is in production gets that kind of valuation.

    If things work to plan, 6 bucks is probably a cheap price if you have two years to hold..

    So are you long or what?
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    That is definately a bullish position to the stock..if things pan as they say and no additional floating, those numbers COULD come in..but 3 times revenues? I dont know if a company who is past the exploration phase and is in production gets that kind of valuation.

    If things work to plan, 6 bucks is probably a cheap price if you have two years to hold..

    So are you long or what?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 9:26 PM ET #37

    I don't think they are past the exploration phase.  They're just prepping to bring their more serious products to market (including first of its kind homebrew prenatal tests) and like they said they are finding new apps all the time.  Gene sequencing is the future.  And more and more they appear to be best in breed.  For a 250 mil market cap.  You can 10X that and still imagine how it can be much bigger in the future when this technology becomes more and more of a reality.  Yeah, I am long at $4.80 and plan to hold for years.  But I think it can still be bought at $6,7...I can definitely see this being a real "hot stock" at some point soon.  Actually it did triple from about $2 to $6 last autumn.  And Wall Street saw something in this company back in the high flying tech boom when it traded over $500 per share based on current price!  The potential is enormous.
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    I don't think they are past the exploration phase.  They're just prepping to bring their more serious products to market (including first of its kind homebrew prenatal tests) and like they said they are finding new apps all the time.  Gene sequencing is the future.  And more and more they appear to be best in breed.  For a 250 mil market cap.  You can 10X that and still imagine how it can be much bigger in the future when this technology becomes more and more of a reality.  Yeah, I am long at $4.80 and plan to hold for years.  But I think it can still be bought at $6,7...I can definitely see this being a real "hot stock" at some point soon.  Actually it did triple from about $2 to $6 last autumn.  And Wall Street saw something in this company back in the high flying tech boom when it traded over $500 per share based on current price!  The potential is enormous.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2007 - 9:38 PM ET #38

    Depeche,

    You gotta factor in that reverse split..without that the stock is now 2 bucks, the low was 80 cents and the high was still over 100.

    Too bad they dont have options, might make for a nice cheap long shot. I would rather take a long shot on this stock than DNDN or POZN..
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    Depeche,

    You gotta factor in that reverse split..without that the stock is now 2 bucks, the low was 80 cents and the high was still over 100.

    Too bad they dont have options, might make for a nice cheap long shot. I would rather take a long shot on this stock than DNDN or POZN..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 12:51 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Jeff,

    Check this fert stock out..small market cap and China to boot-

    NOEC

    Koaj, the boys have a hold of SNUS, 5 M shares traded and a 6 cent range..prop traders paradise..

    Damm.  THis one is worth a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Jeff,

    Check this fert stock out..small market cap and China to boot-

    NOEC

    Koaj, the boys have a hold of SNUS, 5 M shares traded and a 6 cent range..prop traders paradise..

    Damm.  THis one is worth a try

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 11:27 AM ET #40

    Jeff,

    You see that reversal in NOEC? Hit 8.25 and now down to less than 7 bucks!
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    Jeff,

    You see that reversal in NOEC? Hit 8.25 and now down to less than 7 bucks!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:22 PM ET #41

    LOCM is hot again and running strong, up 13% now today. 
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    LOCM is hot again and running strong, up 13% now today. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:22 PM ET #42

    If you are like me you can't help but be interested in the teasers stock advisories run about the next wonder stock etc.I always keep an open mind, and post this informative (at least to me) link on such things.I was happy to find a site that sates my curiosity on such things

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pmNz5NCgGz84ByyY36IzUTQ
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    If you are like me you can't help but be interested in the teasers stock advisories run about the next wonder stock etc.I always keep an open mind, and post this informative (at least to me) link on such things.I was happy to find a site that sates my curiosity on such things

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pmNz5NCgGz84ByyY36IzUTQ
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:34 PM ET #43

    Vermeer,

    I like that guy...pretty good write ups and commentary.

    Depeche, I am seeing more and more speculative moves in low float stocks..like LOCM and of course EFUT based on weak news or none at all. Like today, LOCM moves because a UK site is released from beta?? Is that worth a million plus in market cap today? I dont think so.

    I am also seeing stocks like WYNN flying, ISRG flying, these higher quality high beta stocks really moving.

    I think we have to wait for retraces to moving averages and ride the market..even if I dont get it.  

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    Vermeer,

    I like that guy...pretty good write ups and commentary.

    Depeche, I am seeing more and more speculative moves in low float stocks..like LOCM and of course EFUT based on weak news or none at all. Like today, LOCM moves because a UK site is released from beta?? Is that worth a million plus in market cap today? I dont think so.

    I am also seeing stocks like WYNN flying, ISRG flying, these higher quality high beta stocks really moving.

    I think we have to wait for retraces to moving averages and ride the market..even if I dont get it.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:35 PM ET #44

    buffett may buying a piece of BSC..............rumor
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    buffett may buying a piece of BSC..............rumor
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:37 PM ET #45

    What a strong day in the markets today.  Looks like the Dow will test 14K soon.  Might need to test and fail once before it breaks through, which it will.  I think it'll test, probably tomorrow and then drop back to around 13,750 before re-testing in October.


    Is Vonage (VG) going to $0?
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    What a strong day in the markets today.  Looks like the Dow will test 14K soon.  Might need to test and fail once before it breaks through, which it will.  I think it'll test, probably tomorrow and then drop back to around 13,750 before re-testing in October.


    Is Vonage (VG) going to $0?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:40 PM ET #46

    VG is done.  at least we don't have to here that freaking WOOO HOOO WOOO HOO HOO song on their lame commercials anymore
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    VG is done.  at least we don't have to here that freaking WOOO HOOO WOOO HOO HOO song on their lame commercials anymore
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 3:46 PM ET #47

    Yeah VG is toast..shocking they tried to get around the system and got that far doing it. They probably shouldnt have come public, those auditors didnt check very well did they?

    What a joke that BSC rumor, it sure killed some shorts though.

    Dropped almost 5 pts since the high spike.

    Who thinks Buffet is going to pay retail for a stock like that? Maybe take a stake for a real sweet deal. Either way it isnt good for the stock IMO..

    Wish I had been watching and nailed some 130 puts..lol  

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    Yeah VG is toast..shocking they tried to get around the system and got that far doing it. They probably shouldnt have come public, those auditors didnt check very well did they?

    What a joke that BSC rumor, it sure killed some shorts though.

    Dropped almost 5 pts since the high spike.

    Who thinks Buffet is going to pay retail for a stock like that? Maybe take a stake for a real sweet deal. Either way it isnt good for the stock IMO..

    Wish I had been watching and nailed some 130 puts..lol  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2007 - 1:00 AM ET #48

    Damm what a ride for NOec.  Glad I didn't buy it
     
    RIO is on fire.  Hope this helps continue the uptrend
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    Damm what a ride for NOec.  Glad I didn't buy it
     
    RIO is on fire.  Hope this helps continue the uptrend
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2007 - 1:03 AM ET #49

    Plus douche bag Cramer recomended it today.  He also bashed GIGM.  He doesn't even know anything about GIGM.  Said " I would rather own cisco instead of GIGM."   WTF?  Totaly different kind of companies.
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    Plus douche bag Cramer recomended it today.  He also bashed GIGM.  He doesn't even know anything about GIGM.  Said " I would rather own cisco instead of GIGM."   WTF?  Totaly different kind of companies.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2007 - 1:13 AM ET #50

    Cramer is an idiot..he doesnt know how to lay off the gas pedal and admit he doesnt know a listed stock by heart.

    Anyone see WYNN and BIDU and ISRG on a 6 month chart?

    ISRG is a double, WYNN is up 50% and BIDU is a triple in SIX months???

    The juice on these stocks options are OUT OF CONTROL.
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    Cramer is an idiot..he doesnt know how to lay off the gas pedal and admit he doesnt know a listed stock by heart.

    Anyone see WYNN and BIDU and ISRG on a 6 month chart?

    ISRG is a double, WYNN is up 50% and BIDU is a triple in SIX months???

    The juice on these stocks options are OUT OF CONTROL.
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