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Posted: #51
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

I just don't know what to believe about this vanzack character. His profile page shows that he has been a member since 2001, age 18-20, occupation as government and he posts a thread claiming that he has been gambling for 10 yrs which started in the year 2000 after he quits his job as an executive at a large electronics firm.

So was he 17 yrs old when he quit his lucrative executive job at a large electronics firm in 2000? What happened to his government job?

If he says he's been gambling for 10 yrs, then he started in 2001 and not 2000. I tell ya some guys just can't get their numbers right.

There is 1of 4 possibilities here:

1. His profile page is full of lies and his story is full of lies.

2. His profile page is full of lies and his story is true.

3. His profile page is true and his story is full of lies.

4. His profile page is true and his story is true.

I just have a feeling that it can't be that his profile page is true along with his story to be true because if that was the case it would mean that he was only 17 yrs. old when he was an executive at a large electronics firm...lol

Knowing van, he'll say his profile page is full of lies but his story is true...lol

I more inclined to believe his profile page is true but his story is full of lies.

Maybe tomorrow he'll start a thread titled: "Today's thoughts of a lying gambler."

You caught me.  You should be on CSI.

Go read THIS THREAD, the whole thing, and by the end you might understand.

 

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Posted: #52
Quote Originally Posted by ocd:

van

since money is important in a relationship let alone a marriage, you must have one understanding lady by your side. congrats...

im curious how you made this wrkout? jugglin relationship george and independent george in the same life?

in all seriousness, howd ya do it? 

I was an independent guy cappin this past decade pretty much. 34 now, tried to do the relationship thing with a young twenties single mom off and on the past two yrs. Just didn’t wrkout. and i adore her lil girl too. not fun to miss a kid. She didn’t mind the gambling aspect of the j.o.b. just that it took a lot of my time up from her, especially after she was off of wrk because my wrk would just begin. i do lots of hmwrk before game time but watching the games is necessary for me to continue success at this as well.

how do you survive the burnt out feeling van?

the game has been catchin up to me. cud be lookin for possible other avenues of investments or just a whole new path.. i dont have the family like you. just myself...now......dont want to end up like sydney in the movie hard eight tho...

the whole gig is tiresome has been for a so many yrs now. especially as you age...plus i took it hard in the first quarter this yr dealing with personal drama. Been slowly recovering the bankroll. i relate the solo hcapper lifestyle to what salty was describing with his golf playing days on the road. being in a hotel rm, even if its suite, after yrs with no one in your world but your bank roll the sh*t does all get old...

when dealers and the guys behind the counter are your most consistent interaction with others for mths at a time...it gets old. weird to walk around casinos and see the same dealers for a decade...you begin feeling like youre an employee there...

the perks of being a high enuf vip member tho is cool sh*t...but been there done that. Plus im too conservative with money so not high rollin crazy like to get the d*ck suckin vip status everywhere. and even that would get old...but would be fun to experience until it does..

just ventin and ramblin.  you gave a great read up and decided to bs my sh*t for a bit.

much props van for maintaining both ways of life and doin life like ol blue eyes sang it...doin life my way... 

It is tiresome.  It is tedious.

I just got lucky with my wife, the best win of my life.

The lifestyle doesnt suit everyone.  There are lots of days I wish I had a 9-5 job.  But overall, I wouldnt trade it.

Go read this thread.  It has a lot of the answers of what you are asking.

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Posted: #53

Quote Originally Posted by pjrez:

How long can you sit out?  What if the climate never changes?

I cant go forever.  But I can go a long time.  Maybe 10 years or so comfortably.

But if something doesnt change, or look good - in the next 3 years or so - I will branch off in to some other business.

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Posted: #54
Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Tressel:



Obviously you don't have to answer this, but can you explain what (for a serious professional gambler) the incentives are for moving out of the states?


I live in the States.  I kid about Equatorial Guinea.

I have a family, and am not ready to leave the US.

The obvious incentives are gambling without restrictions, and some countries are tax free for gambling winnings.

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Posted: #55

Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

Good thread Vanzack...do you bet baseball because i have never seen you post plays in the baseball forums..i saw your footie plays for the Champions League stuff though. 

No baseball this year.

First season off in about 30.

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Posted: #56

they found you.

here's a question, how do you figure guys like drake and rostos can gamble competently when they have such a tentative grasp on reality?  gambling, more than most things, requires a person to ignore all the noise and nonsense.

 
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van
 
i remember seeing that thread, should of took a look back then, some good sh*t and just started reading thru it...
 
its funny i look at the grind of a 50 hr a wk corp gig as maybe not so bad now sometimes. then i invision myself in that envrionment dealing with shmos and overworked and underpaid unless you at the very top and i then cant decide what grind is more time consuming and worth it? i do enjoy being self employed on all levels...
 
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questions for ya and if my questions are in that thread my bad to ask here as ill see it in the other one eventually. so if in the other thread, just say so...
 
curious, why dont you wager on any bball or nhl?
not appealing?
you wager during the first and fourth qrtrs with other sports so i know its not personal life stuff. 
 
nhl, especially playoffs can be a lot like mlb strategically wise...
i cant get into nhl, dont really understand the ins and outs of it, but
still smell out a few games every season, especially post season.
 
and bball pro and ncaa have great value. maybe im partial to that sport cause i grew up playing it so i just can feel the result of that sport better. but curious why you dont bother with it at all?
sh*t the last few summers theres been consistent value emerging in the wnba. but i really pick my spots with the muff divers. they tire easily.
 
i can see why futbol, theres money that can be made. i jump in that for the big stuff, i dont follow the dif league plays and i know i shud with the great value available with that sport.
 
and i dont know if you felt it as well, but the last few seasons of each american sport has gotten all messed up. less consistency with lines, public, sharps, the sports, the players playing...sh*t is whack in my opinion...much transition is happening all at the same time...maybe its just my dumbass idk...
 
i thot mlb was the best value around a decade ago. i find it hard to understand why i hear ppl say its insane to bet on mlb. now, yes, but not when i began looking at the big board as my doj and snp. and i would of loved to have been in sports wagering way before the late 90s. i missed out on some good mlb runs...
 
balco bs has completely f*cked up mlb. this was my first real consitstent winner while being a gambler in the late 90s and when i stopped gambling and figured out discipline and turned it into being a sports wagerer, it was consistently a solid investment until the last few yrs...the game is in a transition period and it sucks for now...
 
and great hit on obamas win...i took a small one on him too. once hillary got rejected, it looked so obvious to me...
 
  ramblin on your thread....
just killin some time shootin dif kind of covers dirt...
 
 
 
 
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Posted: #58
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

It is tiresome.  It is tedious.

I just got lucky with my wife, the best win of my life.

The lifestyle doesnt suit everyone.  There are lots of days I wish I had a 9-5 job.  But overall, I wouldnt trade it.

Go read this thread.  It has a lot of the answers of what you are asking.

This is a great read...even for the 3rd time.  Even the gambling stuff was valuable. 

 
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Posted: #59
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

I just don't know what to believe about this vanzack character. His profile page shows that he has been a member since 2001, age 18-20, occupation as government and he posts a thread claiming that he has been gambling for 10 yrs which started in the year 2000 after he quits his job as an executive at a large electronics firm.

So was he 17 yrs old when he quit his lucrative executive job at a large electronics firm in 2000? What happened to his government job?

If he says he's been gambling for 10 yrs, then he started in 2001 and not 2000. I tell ya some guys just can't get their numbers right.

There is 1of 4 possibilities here:

1. His profile page is full of lies and his story is full of lies.

2. His profile page is full of lies and his story is true.

3. His profile page is true and his story is full of lies.

4. His profile page is true and his story is true.

I just have a feeling that it can't be that his profile page is true along with his story to be true because if that was the case it would mean that he was only 17 yrs. old when he was an executive at a large electronics firm...lol

Knowing van, he'll say his profile page is full of lies but his story is true...lol

I more inclined to believe his profile page is true but his story is full of lies.

Maybe tomorrow he'll start a thread titled: "Today's thoughts of a lying gambler."

It's this type of naivity that keeps me coming back to covers. 

You would think that someone who has been around a while would understand vanzack's schtick by now. 

 
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Posted: #60
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

I just don't know what to believe about this vanzack character. His profile page shows that he has been a member since 2001, age 18-20, occupation as government and he posts a thread claiming that he has been gambling for 10 yrs which started in the year 2000 after he quits his job as an executive at a large electronics firm.

So was he 17 yrs old when he quit his lucrative executive job at a large electronics firm in 2000? What happened to his government job?

If he says he's been gambling for 10 yrs, then he started in 2001 and not 2000. I tell ya some guys just can't get their numbers right.

There is 1of 4 possibilities here:

1. His profile page is full of lies and his story is full of lies.

2. His profile page is full of lies and his story is true.

3. His profile page is true and his story is full of lies.

4. His profile page is true and his story is true.

I just have a feeling that it can't be that his profile page is true along with his story to be true because if that was the case it would mean that he was only 17 yrs. old when he was an executive at a large electronics firm...lol

Knowing van, he'll say his profile page is full of lies but his story is true...lol

I more inclined to believe his profile page is true but his story is full of lies.

Maybe tomorrow he'll start a thread titled: "Today's thoughts of a lying gambler."

Every time SJD and Rostos posts, it reminds me of these guys
 
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Posted: #61
If you live in the US, how do you bet with Pinnacle?
 
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Good read Vanny! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

I just don't know what to believe about this vanzack character. His profile page shows that he has been a member since 2001, age 18-20, occupation as government and he posts a thread claiming that he has been gambling for 10 yrs which started in the year 2000 after he quits his job as an executive at a large electronics firm.

So was he 17 yrs old when he quit his lucrative executive job at a large electronics firm in 2000? What happened to his government job?

If he says he's been gambling for 10 yrs, then he started in 2001 and not 2000. I tell ya some guys just can't get their numbers right.

There is 1of 4 possibilities here:

1. His profile page is full of lies and his story is full of lies.

2. His profile page is full of lies and his story is true.

3. His profile page is true and his story is full of lies.

4. His profile page is true and his story is true.

I just have a feeling that it can't be that his profile page is true along with his story to be true because if that was the case it would mean that he was only 17 yrs. old when he was an executive at a large electronics firm...lol

Knowing van, he'll say his profile page is full of lies but his story is true...lol

I more inclined to believe his profile page is true but his story is full of lies.

Maybe tomorrow he'll start a thread titled: "Today's thoughts of a lying gambler."


I am starting to actually feel sorry for you. It seems apparent that you have some sort of mental illness. 
 
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Posted: #65

Quote Originally Posted by Amp:

If you live in the US, how do you bet with Pinnacle?

Thanks for cashing in my ticket, I knew someone was going to ask that question when Van stated he lived in the states.  It could of been assumed he lived in the states when he said he paid the IRS.

 
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Posted: #66

Quote Originally Posted by Amp:

If you live in the US, how do you bet with Pinnacle?

Lots of people who live in the states bet at pinnacle.

You need:

1.  A credit account.
OR
2.  A foreign street address, a foreign bank account, and a foreign IP address - preferably all in the same location.

Its pretty simple actually.

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Posted: #67
Quote Originally Posted by ocd:

van
 
i remember seeing that thread, should of took a look back then, some good sh*t and just started reading thru it...
 
its funny i look at the grind of a 50 hr a wk corp gig as maybe not so bad now sometimes. then i invision myself in that envrionment dealing with shmos and overworked and underpaid unless you at the very top and i then cant decide what grind is more time consuming and worth it? i do enjoy being self employed on all levels...
 
......
questions for ya and if my questions are in that thread my bad to ask here as ill see it in the other one eventually. so if in the other thread, just say so...
 
curious, why dont you wager on any bball or nhl?
not appealing?
you wager during the first and fourth qrtrs with other sports so i know its not personal life stuff. 
 
nhl, especially playoffs can be a lot like mlb strategically wise...
i cant get into nhl, dont really understand the ins and outs of it, but
still smell out a few games every season, especially post season.
 
and bball pro and ncaa have great value. maybe im partial to that sport cause i grew up playing it so i just can feel the result of that sport better. but curious why you dont bother with it at all?
sh*t the last few summers theres been consistent value emerging in the wnba. but i really pick my spots with the muff divers. they tire easily.
 
i can see why futbol, theres money that can be made. i jump in that for the big stuff, i dont follow the dif league plays and i know i shud with the great value available with that sport.
 
and i dont know if you felt it as well, but the last few seasons of each american sport has gotten all messed up. less consistency with lines, public, sharps, the sports, the players playing...sh*t is whack in my opinion...much transition is happening all at the same time...maybe its just my dumbass idk...
 
i thot mlb was the best value around a decade ago. i find it hard to understand why i hear ppl say its insane to bet on mlb. now, yes, but not when i began looking at the big board as my doj and snp. and i would of loved to have been in sports wagering way before the late 90s. i missed out on some good mlb runs...
 
balco bs has completely f*cked up mlb. this was my first real consitstent winner while being a gambler in the late 90s and when i stopped gambling and figured out discipline and turned it into being a sports wagerer, it was consistently a solid investment until the last few yrs...the game is in a transition period and it sucks for now...
 
and great hit on obamas win...i took a small one on him too. once hillary got rejected, it looked so obvious to me...
 
  ramblin on your thread....
just killin some time shootin dif kind of covers dirt...
 
 
 

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You state you are a gambler, but that most of your money was made off of buying/selling lines so that the outcome didnt matter because you had already locked in profit. Thats more like the stock market (which is gambling too in a way). Do you think you are a gambler, or more like a capitalist You stated that your wife is a stay at home mom. Are you guys living off of savings? You plan on doing that for a decade?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

You state you are a gambler, but that most of your money was made off of buying/selling lines so that the outcome didnt matter because you had already locked in profit. Thats more like the stock market (which is gambling too in a way). Do you think you are a gambler, or more like a capitalist You stated that your wife is a stay at home mom. Are you guys living off of savings? You plan on doing that for a decade?

I dont think I said "most", although it is a lot of what I do.  But it is an income stream for me, and a method of diversification for me too.  And that is all but gone.

The stock market IS gambling.  It is not LIKE gambling, it IS gambling.  So they are gamblers, just like me - and we are both taking advantage of the capitalist system.

We are living off of savings, and can do it for a decade if need be.  But I wont last that long.  I have a feeling that if in 3 years things arent better for gambling, I will go in to another form of business that meets my requirements. 

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BRING BACK "THE AVATAR"
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I dont think I said "most", although it is a lot of what I do.  But it is an income stream for me, and a method of diversification for me too.  And that is all but gone.

The stock market IS gambling.  It is not LIKE gambling, it IS gambling.  So they are gamblers, just like me - and we are both taking advantage of the capitalist system.

We are living off of savings, and can do it for a decade if need be.  But I wont last that long.  I have a feeling that if in 3 years things arent better for gambling, I will go in to another form of business that meets my requirements. 

What I meant was its not like you can buy the Bulls -7 and add it to your portfolio and see what it does over the next few months, its more like day trading with no plans on holding a stock, just trying to turn a marginal profit.

Must be nice to have a million or more it in the bank, but with low interset rates and the price of every thing else rising, not having any income would not sit well with me ( definately not for 3 years). I assume your house is paid for and just have minimal household bills and a car payment or 2?

 
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Van, question for you?  do you ever have problem collecting from books or online places. 

You say you are professional gambler and you can make a living, but what if you cant collect?

recently i have been making $ hitting 80% or more but out of 5 books i have used 3 have stiffed me and others slow pay me.

online bodog declined to pay me a few years ago and other places seem difficult to collect.

you are good no doubt but what is the point of being good if you cannot collect?

any tips will be very much appreciated, any words of wisdom from you thank you

ps i am new to this site and just read your thread i want to be a pro gamble too, how does a person get on another's friends list on this site?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

What I meant was its not like you can buy the Bulls -7 and add it to your portfolio and see what it does over the next few months, its more like day trading with no plans on holding a stock, just trying to turn a marginal profit.

Must be nice to have a million or more it in the bank, but with low interset rates and the price of every thing else rising, not having any income would not sit well with me ( definately not for 3 years). I assume your house is paid for and just have minimal household bills and a car payment or 2?

No payments of any kind, no debt whatsoever.

I could live on a covers moderators salary.

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Quote Originally Posted by TheDesertFox:

Van, question for you?  do you ever have problem collecting from books or online places. 

You say you are professional gambler and you can make a living, but what if you cant collect?

recently i have been making $ hitting 80% or more but out of 5 books i have used 3 have stiffed me and others slow pay me.

online bodog declined to pay me a few years ago and other places seem difficult to collect.

you are good no doubt but what is the point of being good if you cannot collect?

any tips will be very much appreciated, any words of wisdom from you thank you

ps i am new to this site and just read your thread i want to be a pro gamble too, how does a person get on another's friends list on this site?

Go read my linked thread above.  I talk a lot about this in there.

I dont gamble on getting paid.  I only play at absolute top books.  I have been burned once in my life, and that was at betpanam for a couple of grand.  Thats it.

The key is limiting your risk - and certainly there is a lot of risk with what book you play at.   Right now, if I were an American, I would only play at these books in this order, with no exceptions:

1.  Greek / Betjamaica
2.  Bookmaker
3.  5dimes

And even those three have risk.  It is hard to quantify how much risk, but they are certainly more risky than say a pinnacle or betfair.

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Posted: #75

Equatorial Guinea finally gets on the map tomorrow!!

My adopted nation goes against Norway in the womens world cup.

We are getting 3.5 goals, but we dont need them - we are going to win outright!  Take that you Norwegian snobs, stuff your pickled herring up your ass!

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