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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    And it's undoubtedly better then perks or oxy's.

    Thank You finally someone that understands!!!

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    And it's undoubtedly better then perks or oxy's.

    Thank You finally someone that understands!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    Medical pot is the biggest scam in the world. In California some "pot stores" are getting 200 scripts a day for medical pot. That's 1400 a week, what a joke. There aren't that many cancer pain people in the USA. Take my word for it most of that pot is being sold to minors and the adults with the scripts are buying their Crack and met with the money.

    God help Us!!!!


    The biggest scam in the world?   Please explain yourself on this comment.  Med Marijuana is a wonderful thing to those who seriously need it and it's not just for cancer patients.  Sorry, but you sound very uneducated on the topic and are strictly voicing your opinion, not facts. I had L5/S1 spinal fusion back in November of 2006 due to a college soccer injury.  When I first fractured my L5 I was in the hard plastic back brace (cause the back specialist felt it would heal without surgery) from my waist up to the chest.  I had to wear this for about 4 months at 23 hours a day.  I could only take it off to shower.  I was on 2 oxys every 2 hours and hell I couldn't sleep a sound night without a shit load of pain. Marijuana was the only thing helping me sleep at night and getting me through the days.  Now 3 years after surgery I feel better then what I did, but still have chronic pain, stiffness and numbness in my legs every day.  And this is after eating very healthy, working out and doing all ab/core exercises my trainer instructs me to do.  I dont wait to take pain meds anymore cause they have very addicting to me in the past.  There are hundreds of thousands of people like me living everyday full of chronic pain and this is helping us live and survive.  Tax the shit out of it and get this country out of debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    Medical pot is the biggest scam in the world. In California some "pot stores" are getting 200 scripts a day for medical pot. That's 1400 a week, what a joke. There aren't that many cancer pain people in the USA. Take my word for it most of that pot is being sold to minors and the adults with the scripts are buying their Crack and met with the money.

    God help Us!!!!


    The biggest scam in the world?   Please explain yourself on this comment.  Med Marijuana is a wonderful thing to those who seriously need it and it's not just for cancer patients.  Sorry, but you sound very uneducated on the topic and are strictly voicing your opinion, not facts. I had L5/S1 spinal fusion back in November of 2006 due to a college soccer injury.  When I first fractured my L5 I was in the hard plastic back brace (cause the back specialist felt it would heal without surgery) from my waist up to the chest.  I had to wear this for about 4 months at 23 hours a day.  I could only take it off to shower.  I was on 2 oxys every 2 hours and hell I couldn't sleep a sound night without a shit load of pain. Marijuana was the only thing helping me sleep at night and getting me through the days.  Now 3 years after surgery I feel better then what I did, but still have chronic pain, stiffness and numbness in my legs every day.  And this is after eating very healthy, working out and doing all ab/core exercises my trainer instructs me to do.  I dont wait to take pain meds anymore cause they have very addicting to me in the past.  There are hundreds of thousands of people like me living everyday full of chronic pain and this is helping us live and survive.  Tax the shit out of it and get this country out of debt.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 11:35 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    And it's undoubtedly better then perks or oxy's.

    Thank You someone that finally understands!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    And it's undoubtedly better then perks or oxy's.

    Thank You someone that finally understands!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 11:39 AM ET #29

    It's funny how people think Cancer is the only debilitating ailment going.

    And the best part is with the compassion clubs is that it may/may not be as strong as what you can get on the streets....but it's WAY cleaner.  Nice white ashes.

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    It's funny how people think Cancer is the only debilitating ailment going.

    And the best part is with the compassion clubs is that it may/may not be as strong as what you can get on the streets....but it's WAY cleaner.  Nice white ashes.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:04 PM ET #30

    colorado already has the idea by taxing it. needs to be classified like alcohol by the damn feds.  im not much of a researcher (pun intended), however i couldnt find a single stat pointing to a marijuana overdose death as opposed to alcohol overdoses.

    domestic violence cases are more likely to occur with an alcoholic than a pothead. 
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    colorado already has the idea by taxing it. needs to be classified like alcohol by the damn feds.  im not much of a researcher (pun intended), however i couldnt find a single stat pointing to a marijuana overdose death as opposed to alcohol overdoses.

    domestic violence cases are more likely to occur with an alcoholic than a pothead. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:13 PM ET #31

    Simon, if your smoking ten joints a day you must be a space cadet. Do you Work? Is your job anything that could hurt other people? I know one thing if i had a small business you would never work for me!!!
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    Simon, if your smoking ten joints a day you must be a space cadet. Do you Work? Is your job anything that could hurt other people? I know one thing if i had a small business you would never work for me!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #32

    TMP78 do you know how many Pot stores there are in San Francisco? Take a guess....try 48!!!! And that is just SF if there are that many people in cronic pain maybe the world should come to an end because the human race has become weak and feeble and should be destroyed. Like I said before this is a scam and basically makes Pot legal. Remember since its considered a perscription Medicaid and other insurance pays for addicts to get there fix. Nice Country we live in!!!
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    TMP78 do you know how many Pot stores there are in San Francisco? Take a guess....try 48!!!! And that is just SF if there are that many people in cronic pain maybe the world should come to an end because the human race has become weak and feeble and should be destroyed. Like I said before this is a scam and basically makes Pot legal. Remember since its considered a perscription Medicaid and other insurance pays for addicts to get there fix. Nice Country we live in!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:34 PM ET #33

    10 grams a day? u must be really, really bad off...enjoy tho! but ill take ur oxycotins those things are SWEET!!!
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    10 grams a day? u must be really, really bad off...enjoy tho! but ill take ur oxycotins those things are SWEET!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:37 PM ET #34

    Clarify was you deem a 'pot store'.

    Most pot stores do not sell, distribute or have any real marijuana there.  They are like bodegas where you can get everything but.

    The reality is there are that many people suffering everyday from a wide variety of ailments.

    I guess your idea is for the status quo of having all these people hooked on perks, oxy's and other painkillers....which happens to be the #1 killer in terms of drug classifications.

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    Clarify was you deem a 'pot store'.

    Most pot stores do not sell, distribute or have any real marijuana there.  They are like bodegas where you can get everything but.

    The reality is there are that many people suffering everyday from a wide variety of ailments.

    I guess your idea is for the status quo of having all these people hooked on perks, oxy's and other painkillers....which happens to be the #1 killer in terms of drug classifications.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:45 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    Simon, if your smoking ten joints a day you must be a space cadet. Do you Work? Is your job anything that could hurt other people? I know one thing if i had a small business you would never work for me!!!

    I do not work.And I am Not  a space cadet.I am so sick of you type of people so anal.Get educated on Marijuana first maybe try smoking a joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    Simon, if your smoking ten joints a day you must be a space cadet. Do you Work? Is your job anything that could hurt other people? I know one thing if i had a small business you would never work for me!!!

    I do not work.And I am Not  a space cadet.I am so sick of you type of people so anal.Get educated on Marijuana first maybe try smoking a joint.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:45 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    TMP78 do you know how many Pot stores there are in San Francisco? Take a guess....try 48!!!! And that is just SF if there are that many people in cronic pain maybe the world should come to an end because the human race has become weak and feeble and should be destroyed. Like I said before this is a scam and basically makes Pot legal. Remember since its considered a perscription Medicaid and other insurance pays for addicts to get there fix. Nice Country we live in!!!

    Do u know how many drug stores there in Milwaukee? Do u know how many Liquor store's there are in Boston?  What's your fucking point? Number of stores means nothing and your argument is weak.  I suggest you do some research and look up who uses and would use if Med Marijuana was legal.  You seem to think it's just pot heads wanting to get a government funded fix.  You all seems to not be informed that pain medication is one of the biggest problems of today's youth.  So lets prescribe everyone Oxys and Percs and then have this world full of Heroin addicts.  Let me guess you also didn't know that Oxys and Percs tend to lead kids into Heroin.  I wish just for one day you could live in my shoes and wake up with pain, stiffness and numbness I deal with daily.  Then maybe you would stop being  simple minded and look at the big picture here. 

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    TMP78 do you know how many Pot stores there are in San Francisco? Take a guess....try 48!!!! And that is just SF if there are that many people in cronic pain maybe the world should come to an end because the human race has become weak and feeble and should be destroyed. Like I said before this is a scam and basically makes Pot legal. Remember since its considered a perscription Medicaid and other insurance pays for addicts to get there fix. Nice Country we live in!!!

    Do u know how many drug stores there in Milwaukee? Do u know how many Liquor store's there are in Boston?  What's your fucking point? Number of stores means nothing and your argument is weak.  I suggest you do some research and look up who uses and would use if Med Marijuana was legal.  You seem to think it's just pot heads wanting to get a government funded fix.  You all seems to not be informed that pain medication is one of the biggest problems of today's youth.  So lets prescribe everyone Oxys and Percs and then have this world full of Heroin addicts.  Let me guess you also didn't know that Oxys and Percs tend to lead kids into Heroin.  I wish just for one day you could live in my shoes and wake up with pain, stiffness and numbness I deal with daily.  Then maybe you would stop being  simple minded and look at the big picture here. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:53 PM ET #37

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    Do u know how many drug stores there in Milwaukee? Do u know how many Liquor store's there are in Boston?  What's your fucking point? Number of stores means nothing and your argument is weak. 
     
     I suggest you do some research and look
     
     up who uses and would use if Med Marijuana was legal.  You seem to think it's just pot heads wanting to get a government funded fix.  You all seems to not be informed that pain medication is one of the biggest problems of today's youth.  So lets prescribe everyone Oxys and Percs and then have this world full of Heroin addicts.  Let me guess you also didn't know that Oxys and Percs tend to lead kids into Heroin.  I wish just for one day you could live in my shoes and wake up with pain, stiffness and numbness I deal with daily.  Then maybe you would stop being  simple minded and look at the big picture here. 

       I am in constant pain due to my Arthritis in my neck I have never felt pain in my life like this.My pain specialist suggested I smoke Marijuana to relieve my pain.Also Marijuana helps with my seizures I do not have any seizures anymore.I didn't want to be on Oxycotin Or Percocets.I believe Alcohol is way worse then Marijuana.There are so many people in this world that are not educated on Marijuana.One day they will see when they need it for pain.
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    Do u know how many drug stores there in Milwaukee? Do u know how many Liquor store's there are in Boston?  What's your fucking point? Number of stores means nothing and your argument is weak. 
     
     I suggest you do some research and look
     
     up who uses and would use if Med Marijuana was legal.  You seem to think it's just pot heads wanting to get a government funded fix.  You all seems to not be informed that pain medication is one of the biggest problems of today's youth.  So lets prescribe everyone Oxys and Percs and then have this world full of Heroin addicts.  Let me guess you also didn't know that Oxys and Percs tend to lead kids into Heroin.  I wish just for one day you could live in my shoes and wake up with pain, stiffness and numbness I deal with daily.  Then maybe you would stop being  simple minded and look at the big picture here. 

       I am in constant pain due to my Arthritis in my neck I have never felt pain in my life like this.My pain specialist suggested I smoke Marijuana to relieve my pain.Also Marijuana helps with my seizures I do not have any seizures anymore.I didn't want to be on Oxycotin Or Percocets.I believe Alcohol is way worse then Marijuana.There are so many people in this world that are not educated on Marijuana.One day they will see when they need it for pain.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:53 PM ET #38

    josbran - you sound like some of these pharmaceutical companies who want to continue pushing these synthethic/man made drugs on our society. There's your scam. Take one drug that solves your first symptom, but need another due to the sideaffects. And so on and so on...No different than the local street corner smack dealer looking for the repeat business, except these dealers wear suits! The pharma lobby boast one of the most powerful in Washington and would love nothing more than to continue the status quo.

     

    Maybe you would want to ban cigarettes, alcohol and french fries since they have caused more deaths that Marijuana?

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    josbran - you sound like some of these pharmaceutical companies who want to continue pushing these synthethic/man made drugs on our society. There's your scam. Take one drug that solves your first symptom, but need another due to the sideaffects. And so on and so on...No different than the local street corner smack dealer looking for the repeat business, except these dealers wear suits! The pharma lobby boast one of the most powerful in Washington and would love nothing more than to continue the status quo.

     

    Maybe you would want to ban cigarettes, alcohol and french fries since they have caused more deaths that Marijuana?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 12:54 PM ET #39

    10 joints a day yowser. i smoked for years and never more than 2js a day. i stop when i gotta random on the jobs cause i get tired of carrying fake piss pinned in my drawers all day but i could never smoke 10 joints. you must have alot of friends. i am currently in a holding pattern until i get back to work
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    10 joints a day yowser. i smoked for years and never more than 2js a day. i stop when i gotta random on the jobs cause i get tired of carrying fake piss pinned in my drawers all day but i could never smoke 10 joints. you must have alot of friends. i am currently in a holding pattern until i get back to work
     
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    I'm surprised that smoking helps your neck pain... it can be great for a huge spectrum of problems but normally back and neck pain aren't one of them - in fact it can increase a lot of back and neck pain in some people.  I've heard other people who suffered from seizures say that marijuana is nothing short of a miracle for them.  another female in their 40's that I wouldn't expect to use it said it was her last option and she doesn't know how she would live without it now that she has it - no more seizures.


    Sergio, are you suggesting that marijuana is worse for your health (and society) than alcohol?
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    I'm surprised that smoking helps your neck pain... it can be great for a huge spectrum of problems but normally back and neck pain aren't one of them - in fact it can increase a lot of back and neck pain in some people.  I've heard other people who suffered from seizures say that marijuana is nothing short of a miracle for them.  another female in their 40's that I wouldn't expect to use it said it was her last option and she doesn't know how she would live without it now that she has it - no more seizures.


    Sergio, are you suggesting that marijuana is worse for your health (and society) than alcohol?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 1:07 PM ET #41

    Marijuana cannot kill you. It is virtually impossible to overdose on it. It is impossible to overdose from smoking it. The only way you could overdose is from eating massive, gargantuan amounts of it. In fact, the only marijuana death I have ever heard of was a 5 year-old girl who died after eating a pound of marijuana that her mother had baked into some brownies.

    And by the way, alcohol makes you do far more dangerous, stupid things than marijuana ever will. Marijuana does not lower your inhibitions and ruin your judgment the way alcohol does. Also, it is pretty easy to overdose and die from alcohol, as alcohol is actually a poison. Alcohol is also physically addictive, which marijuana is NOT.
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    Marijuana cannot kill you. It is virtually impossible to overdose on it. It is impossible to overdose from smoking it. The only way you could overdose is from eating massive, gargantuan amounts of it. In fact, the only marijuana death I have ever heard of was a 5 year-old girl who died after eating a pound of marijuana that her mother had baked into some brownies.

    And by the way, alcohol makes you do far more dangerous, stupid things than marijuana ever will. Marijuana does not lower your inhibitions and ruin your judgment the way alcohol does. Also, it is pretty easy to overdose and die from alcohol, as alcohol is actually a poison. Alcohol is also physically addictive, which marijuana is NOT.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 1:19 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    I'm surprised that smoking helps your neck pain... it can be great for a huge spectrum of problems but normally back and neck pain aren't one of them - in fact it can increase a lot of back and neck pain in some people.  I've heard other people who suffered from seizures say that marijuana is nothing short of a miracle for them.  another female in their 40's that I wouldn't expect to use it said it was her last option and she doesn't know how she would live without it now that she has it - no more seizures.


    Sergio, are you suggesting that marijuana is worse for your health (and society) than alcohol?

     

    no - but it could give you lung cancer if you smoke enough of it. my point is, there are more dangerous things in society that we just learn to live with. We don't ban driving, even though people everyday die on our highways. We have seat belt and speed limit laws. We learn to live with the risks.

    The same people pushing prohibition should just look at how that experiment worked in the 1930's, probably the darkest days of our republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    I'm surprised that smoking helps your neck pain... it can be great for a huge spectrum of problems but normally back and neck pain aren't one of them - in fact it can increase a lot of back and neck pain in some people.  I've heard other people who suffered from seizures say that marijuana is nothing short of a miracle for them.  another female in their 40's that I wouldn't expect to use it said it was her last option and she doesn't know how she would live without it now that she has it - no more seizures.


    Sergio, are you suggesting that marijuana is worse for your health (and society) than alcohol?

     

    no - but it could give you lung cancer if you smoke enough of it. my point is, there are more dangerous things in society that we just learn to live with. We don't ban driving, even though people everyday die on our highways. We have seat belt and speed limit laws. We learn to live with the risks.

    The same people pushing prohibition should just look at how that experiment worked in the 1930's, probably the darkest days of our republic.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 1:47 PM ET #43

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    i'm defending marijuana in the politics forum.  one guy thinks it's the devil's plant, i think, and the other guy thinks it's poison comparing it to mercury.  it's not easy in there.  the only thing i can say for sure is they both could use a few bong hits and a bag of doritos.    

     

    Fight the power Dirt........................

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    i'm defending marijuana in the politics forum.  one guy thinks it's the devil's plant, i think, and the other guy thinks it's poison comparing it to mercury.  it's not easy in there.  the only thing i can say for sure is they both could use a few bong hits and a bag of doritos.    

     

    Fight the power Dirt........................

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 1:48 PM ET #44

    But it only has negative affects when smoking really....just like any product.

    You could take the healthiest product/ingredient in the world, it's still going to be somewhat toxic if you smoke it.

    That clearly shouldn't be the parameter for what's deemed legal.

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    But it only has negative affects when smoking really....just like any product.

    You could take the healthiest product/ingredient in the world, it's still going to be somewhat toxic if you smoke it.

    That clearly shouldn't be the parameter for what's deemed legal.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 1:52 PM ET #45

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    no - but it could give you lung cancer if you smoke enough of it. my point is, there are more dangerous things in society that we just learn to live with. We don't ban driving, even though people everyday die on our highways. We have seat belt and speed limit laws. We learn to live with the risks.

    The same people pushing prohibition should just look at how that experiment worked in the 1930's, probably the darkest days of our republic.



    You're making my point for me.  I'm not pushing for prohibition, I'm pushing for legalization.  You bring up that we are like the evil pharmaceutical companies pushing our drugs on you - the difference is that their drugs are 10 times more dangerous and many would argue are less effective.  IMO alcohol is 10 X more dangerous and has virtually no benefit.  I'm not following your logic
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    no - but it could give you lung cancer if you smoke enough of it. my point is, there are more dangerous things in society that we just learn to live with. We don't ban driving, even though people everyday die on our highways. We have seat belt and speed limit laws. We learn to live with the risks.

    The same people pushing prohibition should just look at how that experiment worked in the 1930's, probably the darkest days of our republic.



    You're making my point for me.  I'm not pushing for prohibition, I'm pushing for legalization.  You bring up that we are like the evil pharmaceutical companies pushing our drugs on you - the difference is that their drugs are 10 times more dangerous and many would argue are less effective.  IMO alcohol is 10 X more dangerous and has virtually no benefit.  I'm not following your logic
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 2:30 PM ET #46

    your doctor is a doosh for prescribing that much. 10 grams a day?! not even the stoniest of stoners could smoke that much. your story doesn't hold much water, but then again, it's not your fault, you're just canadien
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    your doctor is a doosh for prescribing that much. 10 grams a day?! not even the stoniest of stoners could smoke that much. your story doesn't hold much water, but then again, it's not your fault, you're just canadien
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 2:39 PM ET #47

    If my Doctor prescribed me that much I certainly wouldn't call him a douche.

    She doesn't mean she smokes that much, maybe she meant per visit?

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    If my Doctor prescribed me that much I certainly wouldn't call him a douche.

    She doesn't mean she smokes that much, maybe she meant per visit?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 3:15 PM ET #48

    I don't' think I could even eat ten grams of that smoke.
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    I don't' think I could even eat ten grams of that smoke.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 6:05 PM ET #49

    is josbran serious, or is he really that ignorant? if you really hold those beliefs then its time to turn off the o'reilly factor and think for yourself.
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    is josbran serious, or is he really that ignorant? if you really hold those beliefs then its time to turn off the o'reilly factor and think for yourself.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2010 - 6:11 PM ET #50

    The Gal smokes 10 joints a day. She doesn't work so how does she live? Where does she get  money from. Probably lives on the public dole like all the other pot heads in the country. As far as the Pharma companies pushing their stuff guess how many people would live to be 80 and 90 years old without these drugs. Would you pot heads give up 20 years of you life to stay high and use the excuse that I'm in pain so just let me get high so I can have fun in life.When Social Security was passed the average male lived to be 58 and full retirement was 65. Now the average man lives to 78 and older. So let's not blame Pharma for all life's problems.
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    The Gal smokes 10 joints a day. She doesn't work so how does she live? Where does she get  money from. Probably lives on the public dole like all the other pot heads in the country. As far as the Pharma companies pushing their stuff guess how many people would live to be 80 and 90 years old without these drugs. Would you pot heads give up 20 years of you life to stay high and use the excuse that I'm in pain so just let me get high so I can have fun in life.When Social Security was passed the average male lived to be 58 and full retirement was 65. Now the average man lives to 78 and older. So let's not blame Pharma for all life's problems.
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