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    TheGreek.com is leaving the US market????

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    eliminat0r85
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 4:59 PM ET #51

    Heritage should be fine my only worry is that greek said they would transfer everyone to heritage, i think they should only transfer people with account for a certain amount of time, as some people who want to close our hobby down might have set up through the greek and are now going to be moved to heritage. That would suck.

    The waters murky folks, time to chill on the beach for awhile. Locals are popping up everywhere now a days, my advice get some connections and find one.
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    Heritage should be fine my only worry is that greek said they would transfer everyone to heritage, i think they should only transfer people with account for a certain amount of time, as some people who want to close our hobby down might have set up through the greek and are now going to be moved to heritage. That would suck.

    The waters murky folks, time to chill on the beach for awhile. Locals are popping up everywhere now a days, my advice get some connections and find one.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 5:30 PM ET #52

    I just had a chat with a representative.

    $120 fee for withdrawal bank wires (thegreek was $55)
    Minimum check amount to withdraw $500, $2500 limit (one free withdrawal, per 30 days)

    I will play the free play, and let's see how my luck turns. But I aint staying with this sportsbook.
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    I just had a chat with a representative.

    $120 fee for withdrawal bank wires (thegreek was $55)
    Minimum check amount to withdraw $500, $2500 limit (one free withdrawal, per 30 days)

    I will play the free play, and let's see how my luck turns. But I aint staying with this sportsbook.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 6:00 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by VGPOP:

    I just had a chat with a representative.

    $120 fee for withdrawal bank wires (thegreek was $55)
    Minimum check amount to withdraw $500, $2500 limit (one free withdrawal, per 30 days)

    I will play the free play, and let's see how my luck turns. But I aint staying with this sportsbook.


    Rep told me 3 grand, you sure it was only 2,500? I told her 3 grand was ridiculous and they needed to up their check payout amount. For being an invitation only book you should be able to withdraw more then 3 grand a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VGPOP:

    I just had a chat with a representative.

    $120 fee for withdrawal bank wires (thegreek was $55)
    Minimum check amount to withdraw $500, $2500 limit (one free withdrawal, per 30 days)

    I will play the free play, and let's see how my luck turns. But I aint staying with this sportsbook.


    Rep told me 3 grand, you sure it was only 2,500? I told her 3 grand was ridiculous and they needed to up their check payout amount. For being an invitation only book you should be able to withdraw more then 3 grand a week.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by eliminat0r85:



    Rep told me 3 grand, you sure it was only 2,500? I told her 3 grand was ridiculous and they needed to up their check payout amount. For being an invitation only book you should be able to withdraw more then 3 grand a week.

    I was told via chat : 120 fee for bank wire.

    500 minimum wd and 9000 maximum wd using bank wire

    I believe there is different maximum limit depending on the method of wd.....2500 or 3k may be using Western Union as a wd method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliminat0r85:



    Rep told me 3 grand, you sure it was only 2,500? I told her 3 grand was ridiculous and they needed to up their check payout amount. For being an invitation only book you should be able to withdraw more then 3 grand a week.

    I was told via chat : 120 fee for bank wire.

    500 minimum wd and 9000 maximum wd using bank wire

    I believe there is different maximum limit depending on the method of wd.....2500 or 3k may be using Western Union as a wd method.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 7:06 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

    I was told via chat : 120 fee for bank wire.

    500 minimum wd and 9000 maximum wd using bank wire

    I believe there is different maximum limit depending on the method of wd.....2500 or 3k may be using Western Union as a wd method.



    I was told 3 grand for courier check. didn't get into bank wires, as i would not use those right now to begin with. I mean the fact of the matter is this means withdrawling weekly and not having a liquid account for football season when you wanna hammer a play.
    For an invitation only book with all of these accolades they really drop the ball when it comes to payouts. Especially with quotes like if any book owed me 6 figures i'd want it to be the heritage. Regardless i'll probably deposit for football season and see how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

    I was told via chat : 120 fee for bank wire.

    500 minimum wd and 9000 maximum wd using bank wire

    I believe there is different maximum limit depending on the method of wd.....2500 or 3k may be using Western Union as a wd method.



    I was told 3 grand for courier check. didn't get into bank wires, as i would not use those right now to begin with. I mean the fact of the matter is this means withdrawling weekly and not having a liquid account for football season when you wanna hammer a play.
    For an invitation only book with all of these accolades they really drop the ball when it comes to payouts. Especially with quotes like if any book owed me 6 figures i'd want it to be the heritage. Regardless i'll probably deposit for football season and see how it goes.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 8:46 PM ET #56

    was anyone able to find wagering limits? I found minimums but maximums are not listed in a clear concise format like on the greek. Guess i'll send them an e-mail.
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    was anyone able to find wagering limits? I found minimums but maximums are not listed in a clear concise format like on the greek. Guess i'll send them an e-mail.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 9:50 PM ET #57

    I can't believe Jamaica and the Greek screwed there customers like this. They could have said something
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    I can't believe Jamaica and the Greek screwed there customers like this. They could have said something
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 10:06 PM ET #58

    Would you rather a situation like BetEd? They did what they felt they had to do and your money is still safe
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    Would you rather a situation like BetEd? They did what they felt they had to do and your money is still safe
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 10:34 PM ET #59

    Is anyone able to login?  I transferred and it says "We're sorry activity on this account has been temporarily de-activated."
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    Is anyone able to login?  I transferred and it says "We're sorry activity on this account has been temporarily de-activated."
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #60

    The Greek handled this the best way possible in my opinion....just my opinion. I guess I look at this a little different:

    They took care of my account and instead of screwing me out of money they transfered my balance to a good book.

    They processed my withdrawl Thursday and got it same day and they could have screwed me.

    Covers isn't really involved as they didn't promote The Greek as a top book and it's interesting that the #1 Book Beted screwed alot of people and the Greek absolutely was the opposite.

    I don't know what the future holds in offshore betting, but there will always be options for the ones that need to wager. I like online because it's easy and frankly I never have dealt with a local since I've been gambling sports since the late 90's and never before so I'll just ride this out and see what happens.

    BOL to everyone and although there are whales that are very upset, I trust everyone will atleast get their money back....which is why I always played at the Greek.

     

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    The Greek handled this the best way possible in my opinion....just my opinion. I guess I look at this a little different:

    They took care of my account and instead of screwing me out of money they transfered my balance to a good book.

    They processed my withdrawl Thursday and got it same day and they could have screwed me.

    Covers isn't really involved as they didn't promote The Greek as a top book and it's interesting that the #1 Book Beted screwed alot of people and the Greek absolutely was the opposite.

    I don't know what the future holds in offshore betting, but there will always be options for the ones that need to wager. I like online because it's easy and frankly I never have dealt with a local since I've been gambling sports since the late 90's and never before so I'll just ride this out and see what happens.

    BOL to everyone and although there are whales that are very upset, I trust everyone will atleast get their money back....which is why I always played at the Greek.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 12:38 AM ET #61

    is it possible to transfer your late greek/ turned heritage account to a 5dimes account? and if so how do you go about it?
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    is it possible to transfer your late greek/ turned heritage account to a 5dimes account? and if so how do you go about it?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 12:02 PM ET #62

    All right people, take this for your record: My chat today with ALMA about withdrawing options:


    [Alma] Thank you for contacting Heritage Sports, how may I help you today?
    [ME] I have a few questions about your bank wire withdrawal. I have been transferred from thegreek.com to your book and I spoke with a representative yesterday, and she informed me your fee is $120.00 for ANY amount withdrawal. 
    [Alma] For any amount withdrawal via Bank Wire, correct.
    [ME] What is the minimum and maximum amount you can withdraw using bank wire per transaction? How long does it take for money to appear in my bank? Same day? 24 hours? Also, when I received my money does a "third party" bank will also charge another fee to have transaction completed? At thegreek.com, they used to charge $55 per transaction, but another bank charged $20 to have my transaction completed. Is this the way with Heritage or I just need to worry about $120.00 fee?
    [Alma] The estimated time to hit your account is 3-5 business days
    [Alma] LEt me find out about any possible additional fees, one second, please.
    [Alma] They're telling me $120 is all you have to worry about.
    [Alma] If, for any reason, there was any additional charge, just let us know and we will reimburse it in your account
    [ME] Minimum and max amount to withdraw?
    [Alma] Min. $3000, max $9900 per week
    [Alma] From $1000 to $3000 we offer Money Orders or Checks sent wherever you want them via FedEx
    [Alma] This has a $55 fee
    [Alma] But you're entitled to 1 free check every 30 days
    [ME] And less than a $1,000?
    [Alma] For those amounts, next day Western Union or Money Grams
    [ME] Do you a minimum amount to withdraw for any type? For example, can I withdraw $50 dollars? $100 dollars? 
    [Alma] The minimum WU or MG is $100
    [Alma] hThe min for C
    [Alma] The minimum for Cks or MOs is $1000
    [ME] How much do you charge for these, for example $600 to $800?
    [Alma] It depends on the amount you request. From 601 to 799, the fee is $70
    [ME] And the country that I will be expecting the withdrawal? Does it vary? Or will it come from Costa Rica?
    [Alma] It varies, could be Costa Rica or Nicaragua
    [ME] Last question: Since I am a new member in your book, do I need to provide some type of identification to start withdrawing my winnings, or does my info from thegreek.com got transferred to your book and I dont need to do this identification steps again?
    [Alma] I don;t think we will require any documentation from you. They will forward it all to us.
    [Alma] Probably they'll just ask you for the receiver's name and payout location
    [ME] Perfect. Alma, you have been a tremendous help and have answered all my questions. You have a good day now.
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    All right people, take this for your record: My chat today with ALMA about withdrawing options:


    [Alma] Thank you for contacting Heritage Sports, how may I help you today?
    [ME] I have a few questions about your bank wire withdrawal. I have been transferred from thegreek.com to your book and I spoke with a representative yesterday, and she informed me your fee is $120.00 for ANY amount withdrawal. 
    [Alma] For any amount withdrawal via Bank Wire, correct.
    [ME] What is the minimum and maximum amount you can withdraw using bank wire per transaction? How long does it take for money to appear in my bank? Same day? 24 hours? Also, when I received my money does a "third party" bank will also charge another fee to have transaction completed? At thegreek.com, they used to charge $55 per transaction, but another bank charged $20 to have my transaction completed. Is this the way with Heritage or I just need to worry about $120.00 fee?
    [Alma] The estimated time to hit your account is 3-5 business days
    [Alma] LEt me find out about any possible additional fees, one second, please.
    [Alma] They're telling me $120 is all you have to worry about.
    [Alma] If, for any reason, there was any additional charge, just let us know and we will reimburse it in your account
    [ME] Minimum and max amount to withdraw?
    [Alma] Min. $3000, max $9900 per week
    [Alma] From $1000 to $3000 we offer Money Orders or Checks sent wherever you want them via FedEx
    [Alma] This has a $55 fee
    [Alma] But you're entitled to 1 free check every 30 days
    [ME] And less than a $1,000?
    [Alma] For those amounts, next day Western Union or Money Grams
    [ME] Do you a minimum amount to withdraw for any type? For example, can I withdraw $50 dollars? $100 dollars? 
    [Alma] The minimum WU or MG is $100
    [Alma] hThe min for C
    [Alma] The minimum for Cks or MOs is $1000
    [ME] How much do you charge for these, for example $600 to $800?
    [Alma] It depends on the amount you request. From 601 to 799, the fee is $70
    [ME] And the country that I will be expecting the withdrawal? Does it vary? Or will it come from Costa Rica?
    [Alma] It varies, could be Costa Rica or Nicaragua
    [ME] Last question: Since I am a new member in your book, do I need to provide some type of identification to start withdrawing my winnings, or does my info from thegreek.com got transferred to your book and I dont need to do this identification steps again?
    [Alma] I don;t think we will require any documentation from you. They will forward it all to us.
    [Alma] Probably they'll just ask you for the receiver's name and payout location
    [ME] Perfect. Alma, you have been a tremendous help and have answered all my questions. You have a good day now.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 12:05 PM ET #63

    I decided to ask her ALL questions and scenarios possible so I know my options.

    I did forget to ask her how long do checks or money orders take to arrive at your house. But I aint using this option, so I never have to worry about that.


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    I decided to ask her ALL questions and scenarios possible so I know my options.

    I did forget to ask her how long do checks or money orders take to arrive at your house. But I aint using this option, so I never have to worry about that.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 12:32 PM ET #64

    I don't know if it matters....but Wally from the greek said that documentation will NOT be transferred to the Heritage.

    With that being said, Heritage told me that I don't need to resubmit photo id for a bank wire wd since I'm a valued past member of thegreek.

    I have both confirmations in an email, so I won't hesistate to remind them when I do wd from my acct.

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    I don't know if it matters....but Wally from the greek said that documentation will NOT be transferred to the Heritage.

    With that being said, Heritage told me that I don't need to resubmit photo id for a bank wire wd since I'm a valued past member of thegreek.

    I have both confirmations in an email, so I won't hesistate to remind them when I do wd from my acct.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 1:31 PM ET #65

    wow i have been using betus and bodog and quite sick of them....wanted to deposit in a better book this football season and the greek goes down...and i tried getting an invite from heritage to no avail. Does anyone else recomend a book other then heritage that paysout decently
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    wow i have been using betus and bodog and quite sick of them....wanted to deposit in a better book this football season and the greek goes down...and i tried getting an invite from heritage to no avail. Does anyone else recomend a book other then heritage that paysout decently
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 2:46 PM ET #66

    well at least the bank wire is a max of 9900 a week. thats better then 3 grand a week for check and WU. Time to open a new account for wires.
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    well at least the bank wire is a max of 9900 a week. thats better then 3 grand a week for check and WU. Time to open a new account for wires.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 2:47 PM ET #67

    I'll have to e-mail them to see if we can get the soccer list that the greek had. As a lot of people who played soccer on the greek will now be switching to 5 dimes for those leagues. It's also not like its hard to put those lines up.
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    I'll have to e-mail them to see if we can get the soccer list that the greek had. As a lot of people who played soccer on the greek will now be switching to 5 dimes for those leagues. It's also not like its hard to put those lines up.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2011 - 3:45 PM ET #68

    [JJ] Thank you for contacting Heritage Sports, how may I help you today?
    [ME] I was looking on your site and did not see a wager limits page. What are the wager limits for individual sports? Is there a list you can link me to?
    [JJ] On major sports 3000 online
    [JJ] and 5000 over the phone
    [JJ] min 2 online
    [JJ] 10 over the phone
    [ME] Alright now say for the NFL is the the spread and the ML covered for the same 3,000 limit? What about for NCAAF?
    [ME] Is it the same 3,000 limit for RL in MLB, and PL in hockey?
    [JJ] they will go up
    [ME] I was just wondering the limits with spread vs moneyline for football as an example, as i know some books do 3,000 for spread but drop the limit for ML?
    [JJ] It would depend Sir
    [JJ] nfl 10000
    [JJ] ml and totals 5000
    [JJ] collegue 5000 and 3000
    [JJ] nba baseball same amounts
    [ME] NFL max for spread to win 10,000, ML and totals to win 5,000. That is good news.
    [ME] NCAAF Max for spread to win 5,000. ML and totals to win 3,000 as well.
    [ME] What are the limits for the following in NHL. NHL ML, NHL PL, game totals. Do you have alternate PL for NHL. 1st period bets ML, PL and total?
    [JJ] anything that is not a major sports would be 2000 1000
    [JJ] NBA, MLB, NHL has the same limits as collegue football
    [ME] What about for 1st period bets? Does heritage have 1st period bets in NHL? I know at the greek for example you could bet to win 3,000 on a NHL game, but for 1st period you could only bet to win 300.
    [ME] Sorry for all the tough questions. You have been a great help. Maybe pass it a long to management there to make a quick page in the help section detailing the wager limits for each sport. That would be a great help to most I'm sure.
    [ME] Have a great day.

    I'm pretty sure JJ hates me.
    Well at least I got some solid info out of him for football. Hockey not so much. Oh well.
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    [JJ] Thank you for contacting Heritage Sports, how may I help you today?
    [ME] I was looking on your site and did not see a wager limits page. What are the wager limits for individual sports? Is there a list you can link me to?
    [JJ] On major sports 3000 online
    [JJ] and 5000 over the phone
    [JJ] min 2 online
    [JJ] 10 over the phone
    [ME] Alright now say for the NFL is the the spread and the ML covered for the same 3,000 limit? What about for NCAAF?
    [ME] Is it the same 3,000 limit for RL in MLB, and PL in hockey?
    [JJ] they will go up
    [ME] I was just wondering the limits with spread vs moneyline for football as an example, as i know some books do 3,000 for spread but drop the limit for ML?
    [JJ] It would depend Sir
    [JJ] nfl 10000
    [JJ] ml and totals 5000
    [JJ] collegue 5000 and 3000
    [JJ] nba baseball same amounts
    [ME] NFL max for spread to win 10,000, ML and totals to win 5,000. That is good news.
    [ME] NCAAF Max for spread to win 5,000. ML and totals to win 3,000 as well.
    [ME] What are the limits for the following in NHL. NHL ML, NHL PL, game totals. Do you have alternate PL for NHL. 1st period bets ML, PL and total?
    [JJ] anything that is not a major sports would be 2000 1000
    [JJ] NBA, MLB, NHL has the same limits as collegue football
    [ME] What about for 1st period bets? Does heritage have 1st period bets in NHL? I know at the greek for example you could bet to win 3,000 on a NHL game, but for 1st period you could only bet to win 300.
    [ME] Sorry for all the tough questions. You have been a great help. Maybe pass it a long to management there to make a quick page in the help section detailing the wager limits for each sport. That would be a great help to most I'm sure.
    [ME] Have a great day.

    I'm pretty sure JJ hates me.
    Well at least I got some solid info out of him for football. Hockey not so much. Oh well.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 11:27 AM ET #69

    Like everyone else I'm sad, disappointed & frustrated BUT NOT SURPRISED that two of the best books in the industry reported this awful news.  The Greek is/was my primary place  .

    WHAT'S NEXT??

    I asked the The OSGA that question www.osga.com  to calm down and feel better about something.

    They told me all $ is safe and Heritage is a very solid, respected book.  Which is great but can't make me feel better about wanting to wipe the smile off the DOJ face for intimidating all these books.  Can't say I blame The Greek or BetJamaica if I was faced with the same current huge processing predicamennt.

    Same rules apply now more than ever!!  Join THREE books to spread your money around and shop for best odds.

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    Like everyone else I'm sad, disappointed & frustrated BUT NOT SURPRISED that two of the best books in the industry reported this awful news.  The Greek is/was my primary place  .

    WHAT'S NEXT??

    I asked the The OSGA that question www.osga.com  to calm down and feel better about something.

    They told me all $ is safe and Heritage is a very solid, respected book.  Which is great but can't make me feel better about wanting to wipe the smile off the DOJ face for intimidating all these books.  Can't say I blame The Greek or BetJamaica if I was faced with the same current huge processing predicamennt.

    Same rules apply now more than ever!!  Join THREE books to spread your money around and shop for best odds.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #70

    [Quote: Originally Posted by jv040] I don't have any funds in thegreek or betjam does anyone know if they will still transfer accounts with no money?

    yes they will i only had couple of pennies in my account they transfore me over and you just have to set up a new id number and I got back a 10 dollar free play for the wait .  I would just call them it easier.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jv040] I don't have any funds in thegreek or betjam does anyone know if they will still transfer accounts with no money?

    yes they will i only had couple of pennies in my account they transfore me over and you just have to set up a new id number and I got back a 10 dollar free play for the wait .  I would just call them it easier.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #71

    the free 10  dollar play you get if your account at or below 100 dollars :)
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    the free 10  dollar play you get if your account at or below 100 dollars :)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 12:22 PM ET #72

    what was the min withdraw with checks at Thegreek or betjm?
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    what was the min withdraw with checks at Thegreek or betjm?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 1:02 PM ET #73

    CRIEYING my accounts are closed oooooooooo fuck fuck fuck

    guess i'll have to trnsfer over to heritage and withdraw and find anjother top sports book !

     

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    CRIEYING my accounts are closed oooooooooo fuck fuck fuck

    guess i'll have to trnsfer over to heritage and withdraw and find anjother top sports book !

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 6:41 PM ET #74

    Had 2 sizable tennis wagers that were pending at the moment the Greek did this "Baltimore Colt" move. Both won and Saturday Heritage said it will be in my account by days end. Of coarse nothing.

    Sunday Heritage said be the days end. Again nothing.

    Today it was by days end and nothing!

    This book is nothing like the Greek.

    Save me the nonsense about how much data and so many clients that it takes a while. This had to have been planned in advance "duh" so a good business would have made sure the transition went very smooth.

    I already requested a withdrawal for funds in the account, can't wait until that blows up.

    It will be best if I just wait until the Govt takes this business over in 24 months or so.
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    Had 2 sizable tennis wagers that were pending at the moment the Greek did this "Baltimore Colt" move. Both won and Saturday Heritage said it will be in my account by days end. Of coarse nothing.

    Sunday Heritage said be the days end. Again nothing.

    Today it was by days end and nothing!

    This book is nothing like the Greek.

    Save me the nonsense about how much data and so many clients that it takes a while. This had to have been planned in advance "duh" so a good business would have made sure the transition went very smooth.

    I already requested a withdrawal for funds in the account, can't wait until that blows up.

    It will be best if I just wait until the Govt takes this business over in 24 months or so.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 7:32 PM ET #75

    Just told contact them in an hour and they will have more information about the pendings. This sounds like BOS all over again with the hour thing.

    I will update.
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    Just told contact them in an hour and they will have more information about the pendings. This sounds like BOS all over again with the hour thing.

    I will update.
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