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    My Bookie Won't Pay Up!!!

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    siyoki77
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 1:42 AM ET #1

    I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com.  He was local until he moved out of state to RI about a year ago.  Still, I've been dealing with him since there were no problem with fund transfers or anything.  I was losing most of the time, so I would send him my personal check via mail (to his home address, so I know where he lives) and he would do the same when I won.  Now 2 weeks ago I won $3300 and he told me over the phone that he would mail it out to me that week.  Last week, while waiting for the payment, I won $3700 more.  So, I called him to see how he would take care of it and guess what???  He put my number on restricted calling list and wouldn't answer when I call from another phone.  Still, I haven't received the first payment, and I'm sure that I'm not ever gonna get the 2nd one either.  Also, he had blocked me from loggin into autobookie account, where I have +$125 since tuesday.  I wasn't gonna bet through him anymore until I get the 2 checks anyway, but it pissed me off since he shut me down without telling me.

    We all know what bookie would do to you if you don't pay them.  But I've never even heard anyone having issues getting money from one.  I have a couple of ppl in NY who offered to collect it for me for $3k but I'm not sure where it would put me in liability, in case they do something you know, illegal to the bookie or his family.  Believe me, I'm not looking for any violence or to threaten anyone for $7k.  But, if I have to , I'm willing to hire those guys as last resolution.  $4k is better than $0k, right? 

    Before I did anything, I wanted to ask you folks if you had better ideas or experience that you would share with me and other ppl here.  Any input or advice would be appeciated.  I know I should've never dealt with bookie in long distance, better yet, I know I should've just not gambled at all.  So, please save your comments about what I should've done before.  What's done is done and I'm just looking for an effective way to handle it.

    Thanks in advance.

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    I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com.  He was local until he moved out of state to RI about a year ago.  Still, I've been dealing with him since there were no problem with fund transfers or anything.  I was losing most of the time, so I would send him my personal check via mail (to his home address, so I know where he lives) and he would do the same when I won.  Now 2 weeks ago I won $3300 and he told me over the phone that he would mail it out to me that week.  Last week, while waiting for the payment, I won $3700 more.  So, I called him to see how he would take care of it and guess what???  He put my number on restricted calling list and wouldn't answer when I call from another phone.  Still, I haven't received the first payment, and I'm sure that I'm not ever gonna get the 2nd one either.  Also, he had blocked me from loggin into autobookie account, where I have +$125 since tuesday.  I wasn't gonna bet through him anymore until I get the 2 checks anyway, but it pissed me off since he shut me down without telling me.

    We all know what bookie would do to you if you don't pay them.  But I've never even heard anyone having issues getting money from one.  I have a couple of ppl in NY who offered to collect it for me for $3k but I'm not sure where it would put me in liability, in case they do something you know, illegal to the bookie or his family.  Believe me, I'm not looking for any violence or to threaten anyone for $7k.  But, if I have to , I'm willing to hire those guys as last resolution.  $4k is better than $0k, right? 

    Before I did anything, I wanted to ask you folks if you had better ideas or experience that you would share with me and other ppl here.  Any input or advice would be appeciated.  I know I should've never dealt with bookie in long distance, better yet, I know I should've just not gambled at all.  So, please save your comments about what I should've done before.  What's done is done and I'm just looking for an effective way to handle it.

    Thanks in advance.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 2:52 AM ET #2

    Same thing happen 2 me when I was 17. I own a bookie 2g I wasn't going to pay him, but he said he will get some ppl to go my house to collect. I told him to fuck himself since the following week before that he didn't pay me it was like 4g or 3g somewhere between their, I told him to take it out what he owed me and u know what he said NO!!!!!
    Some ppl did come to my house I told them im 17years old, im able to sue if they hurt me and I will call the cops if they trespass and I will turn my bookie to popo and all the phone records of him and me talking and gambling with some thats under 21. The guys left and my bookie never called me back.
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    Same thing happen 2 me when I was 17. I own a bookie 2g I wasn't going to pay him, but he said he will get some ppl to go my house to collect. I told him to fuck himself since the following week before that he didn't pay me it was like 4g or 3g somewhere between their, I told him to take it out what he owed me and u know what he said NO!!!!!
    Some ppl did come to my house I told them im 17years old, im able to sue if they hurt me and I will call the cops if they trespass and I will turn my bookie to popo and all the phone records of him and me talking and gambling with some thats under 21. The guys left and my bookie never called me back.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 3:14 AM ET #3

    kick his asssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss yeaaaaaa no mercy get him a bodybaggggggggggggggg yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa johnnyyyyyyyyy take out the leg sensa
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    kick his asssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss yeaaaaaa no mercy get him a bodybaggggggggggggggg yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa johnnyyyyyyyyy take out the leg sensa
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 7:09 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by HotShotPicks:

    Same thing happen 2 me when I was 17. I own a bookie 2g I wasn't going to pay him, but he said he will get some ppl to go my house to collect. I told him to fuck himself since the following week before that he didn't pay me it was like 4g or 3g somewhere between their, I told him to take it out what he owed me and u know what he said NO!!!!!
    Some ppl did come to my house I told them im 17years old, im able to sue if they hurt me and I will call the cops if they trespass and I will turn my bookie to popo and all the phone records of him and me talking and gambling with some thats under 21. The guys left and my bookie never called me back.

    you must be a joy to deal with in real life. freakin rat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotShotPicks:

    Same thing happen 2 me when I was 17. I own a bookie 2g I wasn't going to pay him, but he said he will get some ppl to go my house to collect. I told him to fuck himself since the following week before that he didn't pay me it was like 4g or 3g somewhere between their, I told him to take it out what he owed me and u know what he said NO!!!!!
    Some ppl did come to my house I told them im 17years old, im able to sue if they hurt me and I will call the cops if they trespass and I will turn my bookie to popo and all the phone records of him and me talking and gambling with some thats under 21. The guys left and my bookie never called me back.

    you must be a joy to deal with in real life. freakin rat.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 10:41 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by HotShotPicks:

    Same thing happen 2 me when I was 17. I own a bookie 2g I wasn't going to pay him, but he said he will get some ppl to go my house to collect. I told him to fuck himself since the following week before that he didn't pay me it was like 4g or 3g somewhere between their, I told him to take it out what he owed me and u know what he said NO!!!!!
    Some ppl did come to my house I told them im 17years old, im able to sue if they hurt me and I will call the cops if they trespass and I will turn my bookie to popo and all the phone records of him and me talking and gambling with some thats under 21. The guys left and my bookie never called me back.

    it takes two seconds to add a few periods and commas and spell check and people would prob take you alot more serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotShotPicks:

    Same thing happen 2 me when I was 17. I own a bookie 2g I wasn't going to pay him, but he said he will get some ppl to go my house to collect. I told him to fuck himself since the following week before that he didn't pay me it was like 4g or 3g somewhere between their, I told him to take it out what he owed me and u know what he said NO!!!!!
    Some ppl did come to my house I told them im 17years old, im able to sue if they hurt me and I will call the cops if they trespass and I will turn my bookie to popo and all the phone records of him and me talking and gambling with some thats under 21. The guys left and my bookie never called me back.

    it takes two seconds to add a few periods and commas and spell check and people would prob take you alot more serious.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 10:42 AM ET #6

    plus thats a made up story
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    plus thats a made up story
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 3:54 PM ET #7

    Yea I know, I do to much run-on sentences and little bit of bad spelling...LoL

    Na this story is real.
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    Yea I know, I do to much run-on sentences and little bit of bad spelling...LoL

    Na this story is real.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 3:56 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    you must be a joy to deal with in real life. freakin rat.



    I am.
    He should had paid me and not try to make me pay him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    you must be a joy to deal with in real life. freakin rat.



    I am.
    He should had paid me and not try to make me pay him.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 10:47 AM ET #9

    if he's a crooked book, dime him out. why should he keep operating if he's stiffing people.
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    if he's a crooked book, dime him out. why should he keep operating if he's stiffing people.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2010 - 8:59 AM ET #10

    It is a bad situation to be in. But there could be a couple of explanations that really won't matter to you though. My main piece of advice would be if you are going to pursue getting paid, don't threaten him in any way because maybe, just a big maybe he is working with the law after being caught and if so even threatening to call the law on him if he doesn't pay is extortion and you can get in more trouble that him. 
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    It is a bad situation to be in. But there could be a couple of explanations that really won't matter to you though. My main piece of advice would be if you are going to pursue getting paid, don't threaten him in any way because maybe, just a big maybe he is working with the law after being caught and if so even threatening to call the law on him if he doesn't pay is extortion and you can get in more trouble that him. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2010 - 6:01 PM ET #11

    you should have used thesportsinvestor305@yahoo.com

     

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    you should have used thesportsinvestor305@yahoo.com

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2010 - 4:32 AM ET #12

    MAN GET THEM GUYS TO WUP HIS ASS
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    MAN GET THEM GUYS TO WUP HIS ASS
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2010 - 11:13 AM ET #13

    nothing wromg with getting those guys to collect from him. hes involved in the game he should expect it,he wont do nothing to you. he just thinks your some punk out of state he can punk
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    nothing wromg with getting those guys to collect from him. hes involved in the game he should expect it,he wont do nothing to you. he just thinks your some punk out of state he can punk
     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2010 - 9:43 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum_Heat:

    you should have used thesportsinvestor305@yahoo.com

     

     

    Hey, is this the same guy as E2pwr@yahoo.com?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum_Heat:

    you should have used thesportsinvestor305@yahoo.com

     

     

    Hey, is this the same guy as E2pwr@yahoo.com?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2010 - 9:54 PM ET #15

    Email from E2pwr, he owes me 1500 and just sent me this after making up bullshit about a sick mother:

     

    Tony your right. I do have a problem. I can give you my sob story of why I needed to do this. But you won't care or believe it. Last christmas I lost my Job. I have 2 Children. My daughter 3, has Autism. Her medications are outrageous and I have no where to turn. I started Booking games using my Severance package. To be honest I'm not the scam person that this makes me out to be. About 6 days ago my wife found out what I was doing and has threatened to leave. This has gotten way out of hand. I need help! My wife wants me to get checked in somewhere. I'm in a fuckin panic, my nerves are shot. This is not what I wanted. Not at all. I need someone to talk to I don't know what to do. If my Daughter didn't have this condition I wouldn't of done this. I just need to help her. Nobody else will. I haven't been around today because my wife and I have been arguing. I'm thinking about going public and asking for help from the police. Where else can I turn. Can you please please please. let this go. I'm too much in shambles to even continue this. My life has turned upside down in the last month. I'm so desperate. please. I can't lose my wife, I can't lose my daughter

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    Email from E2pwr, he owes me 1500 and just sent me this after making up bullshit about a sick mother:

     

    Tony your right. I do have a problem. I can give you my sob story of why I needed to do this. But you won't care or believe it. Last christmas I lost my Job. I have 2 Children. My daughter 3, has Autism. Her medications are outrageous and I have no where to turn. I started Booking games using my Severance package. To be honest I'm not the scam person that this makes me out to be. About 6 days ago my wife found out what I was doing and has threatened to leave. This has gotten way out of hand. I need help! My wife wants me to get checked in somewhere. I'm in a fuckin panic, my nerves are shot. This is not what I wanted. Not at all. I need someone to talk to I don't know what to do. If my Daughter didn't have this condition I wouldn't of done this. I just need to help her. Nobody else will. I haven't been around today because my wife and I have been arguing. I'm thinking about going public and asking for help from the police. Where else can I turn. Can you please please please. let this go. I'm too much in shambles to even continue this. My life has turned upside down in the last month. I'm so desperate. please. I can't lose my wife, I can't lose my daughter

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 2:11 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by LivingDreams:

    Email from E2pwr, he owes me 1500 and just sent me this after making up bullshit about a sick mother:

     

    Tony your right. I do have a problem. I can give you my sob story of why I needed to do this. But you won't care or believe it. Last christmas I lost my Job. I have 2 Children. My daughter 3, has Autism. Her medications are outrageous and I have no where to turn. I started Booking games using my Severance package. To be honest I'm not the scam person that this makes me out to be. About 6 days ago my wife found out what I was doing and has threatened to leave. This has gotten way out of hand. I need help! My wife wants me to get checked in somewhere. I'm in a fuckin panic, my nerves are shot. This is not what I wanted. Not at all. I need someone to talk to I don't know what to do. If my Daughter didn't have this condition I wouldn't of done this. I just need to help her. Nobody else will. I haven't been around today because my wife and I have been arguing. I'm thinking about going public and asking for help from the police. Where else can I turn. Can you please please please. let this go. I'm too much in shambles to even continue this. My life has turned upside down in the last month. I'm so desperate. please. I can't lose my wife, I can't lose my daughter

    ahhhh man e2pwr, he owed me some money during football season, i did manage to get a couple small payments out of him. Im sorry to see he kept up doing this to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivingDreams:

    Email from E2pwr, he owes me 1500 and just sent me this after making up bullshit about a sick mother:

     

    Tony your right. I do have a problem. I can give you my sob story of why I needed to do this. But you won't care or believe it. Last christmas I lost my Job. I have 2 Children. My daughter 3, has Autism. Her medications are outrageous and I have no where to turn. I started Booking games using my Severance package. To be honest I'm not the scam person that this makes me out to be. About 6 days ago my wife found out what I was doing and has threatened to leave. This has gotten way out of hand. I need help! My wife wants me to get checked in somewhere. I'm in a fuckin panic, my nerves are shot. This is not what I wanted. Not at all. I need someone to talk to I don't know what to do. If my Daughter didn't have this condition I wouldn't of done this. I just need to help her. Nobody else will. I haven't been around today because my wife and I have been arguing. I'm thinking about going public and asking for help from the police. Where else can I turn. Can you please please please. let this go. I'm too much in shambles to even continue this. My life has turned upside down in the last month. I'm so desperate. please. I can't lose my wife, I can't lose my daughter

    ahhhh man e2pwr, he owed me some money during football season, i did manage to get a couple small payments out of him. Im sorry to see he kept up doing this to people.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 3:36 AM ET #17

    man e2pwr, he still owes me money 
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    man e2pwr, he still owes me money 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 1:28 PM ET #18

    so you guys bet with random email addresses from yahoo.com

    ????????????

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    so you guys bet with random email addresses from yahoo.com

    ????????????

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 2:05 PM ET #19

    Time to hire Tony 2 fingers and break legs!
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    Time to hire Tony 2 fingers and break legs!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #20

    I dont know how it is where the guy who started this thread lives but here in Chicago lol there are no such things as independent bookies. The Outfit has a monopoly on it all and they ALWAYS pay when you win. ALWAYS!!!!!  If betting on the street folks plz make sure ur book is connected and you will always get paid. The stuff he's talking about would NEVER fly here.
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    I dont know how it is where the guy who started this thread lives but here in Chicago lol there are no such things as independent bookies. The Outfit has a monopoly on it all and they ALWAYS pay when you win. ALWAYS!!!!!  If betting on the street folks plz make sure ur book is connected and you will always get paid. The stuff he's talking about would NEVER fly here.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 3:58 PM ET #21

    No need to resort to violence. As the godfather said violence solves nothing. The best think is to let people know about his lack of honor and take it as a lesson learned. I know this is easy to say when your not the one in this situation,but really think this is the best advice.
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    No need to resort to violence. As the godfather said violence solves nothing. The best think is to let people know about his lack of honor and take it as a lesson learned. I know this is easy to say when your not the one in this situation,but really think this is the best advice.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 4:00 PM ET #22

    those who show mercy shall be given it!
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    those who show mercy shall be given it!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 10:40 PM ET #23

    start a new accouint from a different number and an alias you know what I mean... bet very small lose or win so he wants to collect or pay you .... then when he does fuck his ass up
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    start a new accouint from a different number and an alias you know what I mean... bet very small lose or win so he wants to collect or pay you .... then when he does fuck his ass up
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 8:40 AM ET #24

    eastbounddown, well stated and very true. To the gentlemen who started this thread, all that is done on this earth in dark and secret will ALL come to light. this guy will be held accountable, he will have to give account for his actions with you. I appreciate what you said when you stated that you shouldn't have gambled in the first place. I am right there with you as i do research this morning on who to take in the Cuse/Gtown game. I wish you peace.
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    eastbounddown, well stated and very true. To the gentlemen who started this thread, all that is done on this earth in dark and secret will ALL come to light. this guy will be held accountable, he will have to give account for his actions with you. I appreciate what you said when you stated that you shouldn't have gambled in the first place. I am right there with you as i do research this morning on who to take in the Cuse/Gtown game. I wish you peace.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:15 PM ET #25

    first: your stupid for telling us that your optioning to use violence to collect a debt, while alot of cops might not care too much about gambling they will pursue anyone for strong arm shit. If you were serious about doing that, keep it to yourself...
    second: bookies not paying up happens, its a part of this life, if you cant roll with the punches stop gambling.. best of luck on your collection
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    first: your stupid for telling us that your optioning to use violence to collect a debt, while alot of cops might not care too much about gambling they will pursue anyone for strong arm shit. If you were serious about doing that, keep it to yourself...
    second: bookies not paying up happens, its a part of this life, if you cant roll with the punches stop gambling.. best of luck on your collection
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