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    Vladieee
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    Vladieee
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2025 - 9:30 AM ET #1

    Dear Covers Team

    I want to raise a fairness concern regarding the Georgia State vs. Arizona State total posted by the user mollydog, specifically the Under 149.5 selection. That number was not available anywhere in the market at the time indicated by his pick timestamp. Based on archived line movement, 149.5 had been gone for many hours. Given the documented movement across every book, it would have been impossible for any bettor—including mollydog—to legitimately obtain 149.5 at the time his pick was recorded, yet the system still accepted it.

    Below is the essential market history across books, showing the actual totals available:

    Tooniebet – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.5 -108 / u145.5 -118
    Mon Nov 17 08:14 ET: o145.5 -114 / u145.5 -112
    Mon Nov 17 07:59 ET: o146.5 -112 / u146.5 -114
    Mon Nov 17 01:14 ET: o147.5 -113 / u147.5 -113
    Sun Nov 16 22:29 ET: o148.5 -114 / u148.5 -112

    Sports Interaction – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:49 ET: o143.5 -115 / u143.5 -105
    Mon Nov 17 08:39 ET: o143.5 -110 / u143.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:34 ET: o144.5 -105 / u144.5 -115
    Mon Nov 17 08:29 ET: o144.5 -110 / u144.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o144.5 -115 / u144.5 -105
    Mon Nov 17 08:04 ET: o145.5 -110 / u145.5 -110

    TonyBet – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:41 ET: o144.5 -114 / u144.5 -122
    Mon Nov 17 08:31 ET: o144.5 -118 / u144.5 -118
    Mon Nov 17 08:11 ET: o145.5 -115 / u145.5 -120
    Mon Nov 17 07:56 ET: o146.5 -114 / u146.5 -122
    Sun Nov 16 17:26 ET: o149.5 -122 / u149.5 -112

    bet365 – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:24 ET: o144.5 -110 / u144.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.0 -110 / u145.0 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:09 ET: o146.0 -110 / u146.0 -110
    Sun Nov 16 17:19 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -110

    Pinnacle – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:21 ET: o143.5 -111 / u143.5 -109
    Mon Nov 17 08:11 ET: o143.5 -110 / u143.5 -110

    Betano – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:25 ET: o143.5 -110 / u143.5 -111
    Mon Nov 17 08:05 ET: o147.5 -110 / u147.5 -111
    Sun Nov 16 22:55 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -111

    BET99 – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:33 ET: o145.5 -110 / u145.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:27 ET: o143.5 -115 / u143.5 -105
    Sun Nov 16 18:42 ET: o149.5 -105 / u149.5 -115

    Caesars – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:49 ET: o144.0 -110 / u144.0 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.0 -110 / u145.0 -110
    Sun Nov 16 19:04 ET: o148.5 -110 / u148.5 -110

    BetMGM – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:49 ET: o143.5 -115 / u143.5 -105
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.5 -105 / u145.5 -115
    Sun Nov 16 19:49 ET: o148.5 -110 / u148.5 -110

    BetRivers – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:14 ET: o145.5 -108 / u145.5 -118
    Mon Nov 17 07:59 ET: o146.5 -112 / u146.5 -114

    Betway – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:32 ET: o144.5 -110 / u144.5 -115
    Mon Nov 17 08:12 ET: o145.5 -110 / u145.5 -115

    Across all books, 149.5 disappeared late afternoon to early evening on Sun Nov 16. By the time his pick timestamp appears on Covers, every sportsbook was between 143.5 and 146.5. Not a single operator was offering 149.5, and none came close to returning to it. This makes the recorded pick number objectively unobtainable in any real market.

    This is not a personal complaint. It is a structural concern: if outdated numbers are selectable, intentionally or not, it creates an unfair environment for everyone else operating on actual, available lines.

    I am asking Covers to verify whether line selections are being validated correctly and whether users can still choose numbers after they have moved. Any clarification on how timestamps align with the actual market would help the entire community.

    The goal is simple: fairness.

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Dear Covers Team

    I want to raise a fairness concern regarding the Georgia State vs. Arizona State total posted by the user mollydog, specifically the Under 149.5 selection. That number was not available anywhere in the market at the time indicated by his pick timestamp. Based on archived line movement, 149.5 had been gone for many hours. Given the documented movement across every book, it would have been impossible for any bettor—including mollydog—to legitimately obtain 149.5 at the time his pick was recorded, yet the system still accepted it.

    Below is the essential market history across books, showing the actual totals available:

    Tooniebet – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.5 -108 / u145.5 -118
    Mon Nov 17 08:14 ET: o145.5 -114 / u145.5 -112
    Mon Nov 17 07:59 ET: o146.5 -112 / u146.5 -114
    Mon Nov 17 01:14 ET: o147.5 -113 / u147.5 -113
    Sun Nov 16 22:29 ET: o148.5 -114 / u148.5 -112

    Sports Interaction – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:49 ET: o143.5 -115 / u143.5 -105
    Mon Nov 17 08:39 ET: o143.5 -110 / u143.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:34 ET: o144.5 -105 / u144.5 -115
    Mon Nov 17 08:29 ET: o144.5 -110 / u144.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o144.5 -115 / u144.5 -105
    Mon Nov 17 08:04 ET: o145.5 -110 / u145.5 -110

    TonyBet – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:41 ET: o144.5 -114 / u144.5 -122
    Mon Nov 17 08:31 ET: o144.5 -118 / u144.5 -118
    Mon Nov 17 08:11 ET: o145.5 -115 / u145.5 -120
    Mon Nov 17 07:56 ET: o146.5 -114 / u146.5 -122
    Sun Nov 16 17:26 ET: o149.5 -122 / u149.5 -112

    bet365 – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:24 ET: o144.5 -110 / u144.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.0 -110 / u145.0 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:09 ET: o146.0 -110 / u146.0 -110
    Sun Nov 16 17:19 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -110

    Pinnacle – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:21 ET: o143.5 -111 / u143.5 -109
    Mon Nov 17 08:11 ET: o143.5 -110 / u143.5 -110

    Betano – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:25 ET: o143.5 -110 / u143.5 -111
    Mon Nov 17 08:05 ET: o147.5 -110 / u147.5 -111
    Sun Nov 16 22:55 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -111

    BET99 – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:33 ET: o145.5 -110 / u145.5 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:27 ET: o143.5 -115 / u143.5 -105
    Sun Nov 16 18:42 ET: o149.5 -105 / u149.5 -115

    Caesars – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:49 ET: o144.0 -110 / u144.0 -110
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.0 -110 / u145.0 -110
    Sun Nov 16 19:04 ET: o148.5 -110 / u148.5 -110

    BetMGM – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:49 ET: o143.5 -115 / u143.5 -105
    Mon Nov 17 08:19 ET: o145.5 -105 / u145.5 -115
    Sun Nov 16 19:49 ET: o148.5 -110 / u148.5 -110

    BetRivers – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:14 ET: o145.5 -108 / u145.5 -118
    Mon Nov 17 07:59 ET: o146.5 -112 / u146.5 -114

    Betway – O/U
    Mon Nov 17 08:32 ET: o144.5 -110 / u144.5 -115
    Mon Nov 17 08:12 ET: o145.5 -110 / u145.5 -115

    Across all books, 149.5 disappeared late afternoon to early evening on Sun Nov 16. By the time his pick timestamp appears on Covers, every sportsbook was between 143.5 and 146.5. Not a single operator was offering 149.5, and none came close to returning to it. This makes the recorded pick number objectively unobtainable in any real market.

    This is not a personal complaint. It is a structural concern: if outdated numbers are selectable, intentionally or not, it creates an unfair environment for everyone else operating on actual, available lines.

    I am asking Covers to verify whether line selections are being validated correctly and whether users can still choose numbers after they have moved. Any clarification on how timestamps align with the actual market would help the entire community.

    The goal is simple: fairness.

     

     
    Vladieee
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    Posts: 39
    Posted: Nov. 17, 2025 - 10:59 AM ET #2

    https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/ncaab/linemovement/gast-at-asu/365599

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    https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/ncaab/linemovement/gast-at-asu/365599

     
    Flynt
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    Posts: 1546
    Posted: Nov. 17, 2025 - 2:17 PM ET #3

    Hello Vladieee,

    We will look into this, and check pick times vs what the lines were at that time. If we find any issues we will be sure to look into a permanent fix, as getting outdated lines should not be possible, outside of a few minutes while pages/lines update.

    Reply

    Hello Vladieee,

    We will look into this, and check pick times vs what the lines were at that time. If we find any issues we will be sure to look into a permanent fix, as getting outdated lines should not be possible, outside of a few minutes while pages/lines update.

     
    Vladieee
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2025 - 3:24 PM ET #4

    @Flynt

     

     

    Flynt,

    Thank you for looking into this. I want to clarify one important point regarding the Georgia State vs. Arizona State total that was posted.

    The last time any sportsbook showed 149.5 on this game was **Sunday**, as shown in the audited line history:

    Betano – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 22:55 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -111

    TonyBet – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 17:26 ET: o149.5 -122 / u149.5 -112

    bet365 – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 17:19 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -110

    BET99 – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 18:42 ET: o149.5 -105 / u149.5 -115

    However, the pick in question was not made until **Monday morning**, shortly after 8:00 AM ET. By that time, the 149.5 number had already been gone for many hours across every book. There was no sportsbook still showing that line when the pick timestamp indicates it was placed.

    This is why I believe it would have been impossible for that total to be legitimately selected at the time it was posted. I appreciate you taking another look at the timing and the line availability, as accurate and fair posting is essential for the integrity of the leaderboard.

    Thank you again for reviewing this.

     

    Reply

    @Flynt

     

     

    Flynt,

    Thank you for looking into this. I want to clarify one important point regarding the Georgia State vs. Arizona State total that was posted.

    The last time any sportsbook showed 149.5 on this game was **Sunday**, as shown in the audited line history:

    Betano – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 22:55 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -111

    TonyBet – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 17:26 ET: o149.5 -122 / u149.5 -112

    bet365 – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 17:19 ET: o149.5 -110 / u149.5 -110

    BET99 – O/U
    Sun Nov 16 18:42 ET: o149.5 -105 / u149.5 -115

    However, the pick in question was not made until **Monday morning**, shortly after 8:00 AM ET. By that time, the 149.5 number had already been gone for many hours across every book. There was no sportsbook still showing that line when the pick timestamp indicates it was placed.

    This is why I believe it would have been impossible for that total to be legitimately selected at the time it was posted. I appreciate you taking another look at the timing and the line availability, as accurate and fair posting is essential for the integrity of the leaderboard.

    Thank you again for reviewing this.

     

     
     
    JJWoods
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2025 - 8:42 AM ET #5

    @Vladieee

     I wish you well, best of luck…keep up the good work.  I can say 100% that the contests do not involve sports handicapping but instead the fastest fingers wins the prize.  I wish I was slick at IT, hahaha.  But I can say I at least know the coach of every team I wager on an_cheers  

    Never told why I was banned and gave my best always to the forums
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    @Vladieee

     I wish you well, best of luck…keep up the good work.  I can say 100% that the contests do not involve sports handicapping but instead the fastest fingers wins the prize.  I wish I was slick at IT, hahaha.  But I can say I at least know the coach of every team I wager on an_cheers  

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