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    WHY IS MICHIGAN A FAVORITE ???

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    snowjocky
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2008 - 9:16 PM ET #1

    In the Vegas paper Michigan is -7 against Utah.
    Mich. is returning 3 starters an a freshman QB on offense ,and 7 on defense.
     
    Utah returns 8 starters on offense with a good QB (B. Johnson ).And 6 on defense .LY they averaged 26 points on  OFF,and only gave up 16 on DEF.
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    In the Vegas paper Michigan is -7 against Utah.
    Mich. is returning 3 starters an a freshman QB on offense ,and 7 on defense.
     
    Utah returns 8 starters on offense with a good QB (B. Johnson ).And 6 on defense .LY they averaged 26 points on  OFF,and only gave up 16 on DEF.
     
     
    clowncar
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2008 - 9:35 PM ET #2

    The line is pretty much a solid 4 right now bookmaker/cris and the greek.
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    The line is pretty much a solid 4 right now bookmaker/cris and the greek.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2008 - 10:20 PM ET #3

    I think Utah Will Be Good This year.... But I Like Michigan To win and cover in this one.
     
    The Big house will Not allow another home open loss.
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    I think Utah Will Be Good This year.... But I Like Michigan To win and cover in this one.
     
    The Big house will Not allow another home open loss.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2008 - 2:42 AM ET #4

    Definately a bunch of unknowns with Michigan. I think they will be solid on defense, and will be used to facing a spread offense in practice. I really think they will hold Utah to 17, or less. That being said, I'd say it's impossible to even try a guess at how the Wolves will do when they have the ball.
     
    Even with the questions, if it goes to -3, I'm on Michigan.
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    Definately a bunch of unknowns with Michigan. I think they will be solid on defense, and will be used to facing a spread offense in practice. I really think they will hold Utah to 17, or less. That being said, I'd say it's impossible to even try a guess at how the Wolves will do when they have the ball.
     
    Even with the questions, if it goes to -3, I'm on Michigan.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2008 - 8:50 AM ET #5

    Michigan is probably the favorite to create more equal balance betting on the game. Not sure how many people would be willing to bet on Utah if they had to give points to Michigan in Ann Arbor. I know I would take the Wolverines if they where getting points in this one. With them laying 7? Good luck this year.
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    Michigan is probably the favorite to create more equal balance betting on the game. Not sure how many people would be willing to bet on Utah if they had to give points to Michigan in Ann Arbor. I know I would take the Wolverines if they where getting points in this one. With them laying 7? Good luck this year.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2008 - 9:33 AM ET #6

    "No way Michigan loses another home game in the big house"

    "No way Utah plays well in front of 100k opposing fans"

    "Michigan will be well practiced against the spread offense"

    "This is the big10 versus the MWC.  Michigan will roll"

    "Look at how Utah played at Oregon State in the opener last year"


    blah blah blah


       Vegas is licking their chops when squares talk like this.








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    "No way Michigan loses another home game in the big house"

    "No way Utah plays well in front of 100k opposing fans"

    "Michigan will be well practiced against the spread offense"

    "This is the big10 versus the MWC.  Michigan will roll"

    "Look at how Utah played at Oregon State in the opener last year"


    blah blah blah


       Vegas is licking their chops when squares talk like this.








     
    snowjocky
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2008 - 12:17 PM ET #7

    [Quote: Originally Posted by $OC$] "No way Michigan loses another home game in the big house"

    "No way Utah plays well in front of 100k opposing fans"

    "Michigan will be well practiced against the spread offense"

    "This is the big10 versus the MWC.  Michigan will roll"

    "Look at how Utah played at Oregon State in the opener last year"


    blah blah blah


       Vegas is licking their chops when squares talk like this.



    Mich. played Utah in 2002 at home . Score 10 to 7

    Mich. has played the MWC 5 times and won 4 lost 1.Average score 20 to 15.

    With Mich. returning starters and freshy QB situation . Mich. -7 dosen't look to good to me.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by $OC$] "No way Michigan loses another home game in the big house"

    "No way Utah plays well in front of 100k opposing fans"

    "Michigan will be well practiced against the spread offense"

    "This is the big10 versus the MWC.  Michigan will roll"

    "Look at how Utah played at Oregon State in the opener last year"


    blah blah blah


       Vegas is licking their chops when squares talk like this.



    Mich. played Utah in 2002 at home . Score 10 to 7

    Mich. has played the MWC 5 times and won 4 lost 1.Average score 20 to 15.

    With Mich. returning starters and freshy QB situation . Mich. -7 dosen't look to good to me.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2008 - 12:48 PM ET #8

    I'll skip this one but would take Big Blue if I had to.
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    I'll skip this one but would take Big Blue if I had to.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2008 - 4:26 AM ET #9

     I wanted to start a thread but I saw this one already, what are your thoughts on Michigan o/u 7.5 wins. I almost fell out of my chair when I saw this. This team WILL NOT go 8-4, not with away games at ND, PSU, and OSU. They are starting a first year guy at QB, and lack any depth at Oline. Their defense is pretty sound but they have TOO many revenge games on their schedule. They have MSU who they have beaten the last 6 years, ND who they POUNDED the last 2 years, and PSU who hasnt beat UM in almost 13 years (and they all have better teams on paper). ot ot mention Wisonsin and Utah, then OSU, how do they win 8 games (not counting the bowl game)
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     I wanted to start a thread but I saw this one already, what are your thoughts on Michigan o/u 7.5 wins. I almost fell out of my chair when I saw this. This team WILL NOT go 8-4, not with away games at ND, PSU, and OSU. They are starting a first year guy at QB, and lack any depth at Oline. Their defense is pretty sound but they have TOO many revenge games on their schedule. They have MSU who they have beaten the last 6 years, ND who they POUNDED the last 2 years, and PSU who hasnt beat UM in almost 13 years (and they all have better teams on paper). ot ot mention Wisonsin and Utah, then OSU, how do they win 8 games (not counting the bowl game)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2008 - 5:21 AM ET #10

    Rich Rod's spread O
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    Rich Rod's spread O
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2008 - 11:28 AM ET #11

    just a reminder.....AWARE that MOST know answer..
     
    BECAUSE THE BETTING PUBLIC TOO  GODAMN STUPID TO REALIZE THAT....>>
     
    teams (at this point close to even).....pick em... should be.. on neutral field.....+ 4 ish for home ....+2-3ish = 7 < hammered down to 4.....
     
    * do more than look at SCORE ....of utes road openers...LY qb, rb inj..... best OL out already.....ucla, oreg st STRONG up front
    * on O utah has BIGGER prob better OL.....better QB & RB'S <now....rec close.....mich much better DL...better LB...ute DB actually ranked higher (p steele)....ute special teams one of best in nation
    * mich av home fav ....utah strong dog
    * ROD 14-17-1 @ west va as home fav......began 1st year there 1-7 ATS.....and has had losing record 1st year last 3 stops
     
     
    GOTTA BE UTAH OR NOTHING ....but beware any new coach home debut.....
    ** must ask question...will new coach demand players learn his new system (sacrificing immediate perf for long term results) ?....or   more gradual... <LIKE AIR FORCE LAST YEAR.....(other teams dangerous here are ark and ga tech ?)
     
     
    strongest play prob under (or tease utes /under).....in game players >>>mich pumped up should start strong >>look for utes to come back 2nd 1/2
     
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    just a reminder.....AWARE that MOST know answer..
     
    BECAUSE THE BETTING PUBLIC TOO  GODAMN STUPID TO REALIZE THAT....>>
     
    teams (at this point close to even).....pick em... should be.. on neutral field.....+ 4 ish for home ....+2-3ish = 7 < hammered down to 4.....
     
    * do more than look at SCORE ....of utes road openers...LY qb, rb inj..... best OL out already.....ucla, oreg st STRONG up front
    * on O utah has BIGGER prob better OL.....better QB & RB'S <now....rec close.....mich much better DL...better LB...ute DB actually ranked higher (p steele)....ute special teams one of best in nation
    * mich av home fav ....utah strong dog
    * ROD 14-17-1 @ west va as home fav......began 1st year there 1-7 ATS.....and has had losing record 1st year last 3 stops
     
     
    GOTTA BE UTAH OR NOTHING ....but beware any new coach home debut.....
    ** must ask question...will new coach demand players learn his new system (sacrificing immediate perf for long term results) ?....or   more gradual... <LIKE AIR FORCE LAST YEAR.....(other teams dangerous here are ark and ga tech ?)
     
     
    strongest play prob under (or tease utes /under).....in game players >>>mich pumped up should start strong >>look for utes to come back 2nd 1/2
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2008 - 9:20 PM ET #12

    Because Michigan on a good day is better than utah and they are capable of beating utah by 7.  I hate when people get mad or act like someone is stupid because a line is not what you think it should be. If you think utah is the play at +7 then put your money on utah and stfu. I can hear idiot osu fans already crying because usc is favored.
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    Because Michigan on a good day is better than utah and they are capable of beating utah by 7.  I hate when people get mad or act like someone is stupid because a line is not what you think it should be. If you think utah is the play at +7 then put your money on utah and stfu. I can hear idiot osu fans already crying because usc is favored.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2008 - 1:18 AM ET #13

    [Quote: Originally Posted by MeGreatnessMe]
    Because Michigan on a good day is better than utah and they are capable of beating utah by 7.  I hate when people get mad or act like someone is stupid because a line is not what you think it should be. If you think utah is the play at +7 then put your money on utah and stfu. I can hear idiot osu fans already crying because usc is favored.

    [/Quote]First of all IDIOT. You have to be a tit sucking fan for your team to give an answer like you did..

    I asked the ? because of this!!

    Mich. is returning 3 starters an a freshman QB on offense ,and 7 on defense.
     
    Utah returns 8 starters on offense with a good QB (B. Johnson ).And 6 on defense .LY they averaged 26 points on  OFF,and only gave up 16 on DEF.
     
    I didn't say anything about the USC/OSU game. This site  is to get info about teams not hear you cry baby's weep for your home town teams. Next time ask your MAMA if you can hit the submit button befor you try to answer a question.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by MeGreatnessMe]
    Because Michigan on a good day is better than utah and they are capable of beating utah by 7.  I hate when people get mad or act like someone is stupid because a line is not what you think it should be. If you think utah is the play at +7 then put your money on utah and stfu. I can hear idiot osu fans already crying because usc is favored.

    [/Quote]First of all IDIOT. You have to be a tit sucking fan for your team to give an answer like you did..

    I asked the ? because of this!!

    Mich. is returning 3 starters an a freshman QB on offense ,and 7 on defense.
     
    Utah returns 8 starters on offense with a good QB (B. Johnson ).And 6 on defense .LY they averaged 26 points on  OFF,and only gave up 16 on DEF.
     
    I didn't say anything about the USC/OSU game. This site  is to get info about teams not hear you cry baby's weep for your home town teams. Next time ask your MAMA if you can hit the submit button befor you try to answer a question.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2008 - 1:43 AM ET #14

    Utah is a solid team, however I think Michigan will win and cover. They will do ok this year, maybe win 8-9 games. 8-4 with possibly a bowl win. I dont respect the big 10 and imo anybody could win it.
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    Utah is a solid team, however I think Michigan will win and cover. They will do ok this year, maybe win 8-9 games. 8-4 with possibly a bowl win. I dont respect the big 10 and imo anybody could win it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2008 - 8:11 PM ET #15

    i answered your question
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    i answered your question
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2008 - 4:02 PM ET #16

    utah ml, michigan will be good by november though, if it werent for the name michigan, utah would be favored probably
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    utah ml, michigan will be good by november though, if it werent for the name michigan, utah would be favored probably
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2008 - 7:49 PM ET #17

    I show Mich. stability at 2 and Utah at 17.  Power Ratings are both at 46????   Stability wise Utah would be the bet here..
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    I show Mich. stability at 2 and Utah at 17.  Power Ratings are both at 46????   Stability wise Utah would be the bet here..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2008 - 2:16 PM ET #18

    I would have to agree with the other posters that you cannot have a MWC team favored in Ann Arbor the first week of the season and expect anywhere near even action. Should probably close at Mich -2.5/-3, I would think.

    When Utah came into town in 2002 with Alex Smith they easily covered the 11pt spread and had chances of the outright upset - and that was against a decent Mich team that went 10-3 on the season with only 1 loss at home (iowa).

    This Ute team should be better than that squad with quality returning starters on both sides of the ball. This is versus a Mich team that is returning only 3 on offense AND completely shifting its offense attack to the spread with players not recruited for it. The QBs have 1 career pass attempt and the oline has a total of 16 career starts - although their backs are ruthless. The Dline for the wolves should be insane with 4 NFL prospects and the DBs are real good. Linebacking is a question mark though.

    All in all, the D should keep the Wolverines in the game and there is talent on Offense to come up with the outright win - but against a superior and far more experienced team that along with BYU in the MWC has their eyes on a BCS game - even at home I think they lose:
    Utah 20   Michigan 17
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    I would have to agree with the other posters that you cannot have a MWC team favored in Ann Arbor the first week of the season and expect anywhere near even action. Should probably close at Mich -2.5/-3, I would think.

    When Utah came into town in 2002 with Alex Smith they easily covered the 11pt spread and had chances of the outright upset - and that was against a decent Mich team that went 10-3 on the season with only 1 loss at home (iowa).

    This Ute team should be better than that squad with quality returning starters on both sides of the ball. This is versus a Mich team that is returning only 3 on offense AND completely shifting its offense attack to the spread with players not recruited for it. The QBs have 1 career pass attempt and the oline has a total of 16 career starts - although their backs are ruthless. The Dline for the wolves should be insane with 4 NFL prospects and the DBs are real good. Linebacking is a question mark though.

    All in all, the D should keep the Wolverines in the game and there is talent on Offense to come up with the outright win - but against a superior and far more experienced team that along with BYU in the MWC has their eyes on a BCS game - even at home I think they lose:
    Utah 20   Michigan 17
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2008 - 8:22 AM ET #19

    Alex Smith was the 3rd stringer in that 2002 game, but I agree on everything else you said.  
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    Alex Smith was the 3rd stringer in that 2002 game, but I agree on everything else you said.  
     
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    OC - i agree 100% with your post above

    UM is awful and has zero offense

    michigan is favored b/c of perceived HFA and there's 50k UM alum with money to bet on their team every saturday. might as well make them lay points
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    OC - i agree 100% with your post above

    UM is awful and has zero offense

    michigan is favored b/c of perceived HFA and there's 50k UM alum with money to bet on their team every saturday. might as well make them lay points
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 3:48 PM ET #21

    The line is where it is simply b/c of trying to balance the action on the teams. Anything less than a touchdown for Michigan against a non-bcs team in its home opener would have tons of money from Michigan pouring in on them. A lot of people who bet only do it on their favorite few teams so boks have to account for that. Michigan definitely has more fans than the Utah.

    As for why I think the line is actually about right would be Michigan's defense. RichRod coming in and changing the offense around won't affect the defense, which is supposed to be pretty good. Their D alone should keep them in some games until the offesnse is figured out.
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    The line is where it is simply b/c of trying to balance the action on the teams. Anything less than a touchdown for Michigan against a non-bcs team in its home opener would have tons of money from Michigan pouring in on them. A lot of people who bet only do it on their favorite few teams so boks have to account for that. Michigan definitely has more fans than the Utah.

    As for why I think the line is actually about right would be Michigan's defense. RichRod coming in and changing the offense around won't affect the defense, which is supposed to be pretty good. Their D alone should keep them in some games until the offesnse is figured out.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 4:41 PM ET #22

    isnt the line -3.5??? 
     
    my book just posted lines today and it is -3.5
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    isnt the line -3.5??? 
     
    my book just posted lines today and it is -3.5
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by silcoxjm:

    The line is where it is simply b/c of trying to balance the action on the teams. Anything less than a touchdown for Michigan against a non-bcs team in its home opener would have tons of money from Michigan pouring in on them. A lot of people who bet only do it on their favorite few teams so boks have to account for that. Michigan definitely has more fans than the Utah.

    As for why I think the line is actually about right would be Michigan's defense. RichRod coming in and changing the offense around won't affect the defense, which is supposed to be pretty good. Their D alone should keep them in some games until the offesnse is figured out.



    Their D will be different as well as DC Ron English left and they brought in the DC from Stanford last year.  UM D should be good- but will also have a new look from a package view, not from a personnel view...


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    Quote Originally Posted by silcoxjm:

    The line is where it is simply b/c of trying to balance the action on the teams. Anything less than a touchdown for Michigan against a non-bcs team in its home opener would have tons of money from Michigan pouring in on them. A lot of people who bet only do it on their favorite few teams so boks have to account for that. Michigan definitely has more fans than the Utah.

    As for why I think the line is actually about right would be Michigan's defense. RichRod coming in and changing the offense around won't affect the defense, which is supposed to be pretty good. Their D alone should keep them in some games until the offesnse is figured out.



    Their D will be different as well as DC Ron English left and they brought in the DC from Stanford last year.  UM D should be good- but will also have a new look from a package view, not from a personnel view...


     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 5:35 PM ET #24

    Whatever is new about the defense this year I can't imagine it is anywhere near a drastic as what the change in offense is.
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    Whatever is new about the defense this year I can't imagine it is anywhere near a drastic as what the change in offense is.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjocky:

    First of all IDIOT. You have to be a tit sucking fan for your team to give an answer like you did..

    I asked the ? because of this!!

    Mich. is returning 3 starters an a freshman QB on offense ,and 7 on defense.
     
    Utah returns 8 starters on offense with a good QB (B. Johnson ).And 6 on defense .LY they averaged 26 points on  OFF,and only gave up 16 on DEF.
     
    I didn't say anything about the USC/OSU game. This site  is to get info about teams not hear you cry baby's weep for your home town teams. Next time ask your MAMA if you can hit the submit button befor you try to answer a question.

    I hate when people get mad or act like someone is stupid because an answer is not what you think it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjocky:

    First of all IDIOT. You have to be a tit sucking fan for your team to give an answer like you did..

    I asked the ? because of this!!

    Mich. is returning 3 starters an a freshman QB on offense ,and 7 on defense.
     
    Utah returns 8 starters on offense with a good QB (B. Johnson ).And 6 on defense .LY they averaged 26 points on  OFF,and only gave up 16 on DEF.
     
    I didn't say anything about the USC/OSU game. This site  is to get info about teams not hear you cry baby's weep for your home town teams. Next time ask your MAMA if you can hit the submit button befor you try to answer a question.

    I hate when people get mad or act like someone is stupid because an answer is not what you think it should be.

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