WEEK 8 ** 1 5 1 **

UNLV-7 at home vs col st, who won by 1 point last game in a thriller, down 17-0 at half, scored 21 in the 4th qtr, after being down 30-10 , col st scored and must have gotten a onside kick, cause it shows they drove again without a boise posession, and then they scored on last play of game, i think they will be hung over from that game, and UNLV is not BOISE st, UNLV is playing really well, love to see this line drop but doubt it, also Col st has won last 4, and normally people think well they can beat them again, they always do, but when a team is having a very good year, winning big, and then they play a team that they have not beaten??? remember 4 years, so people on UNLV no matter what year, you have always lost to Col st, and you want nothing more than to beat them , buying a point now is too much, but i think this will go up anyway so -7 is a play

UNLV-7  1.5 units  -110   buying was exspensive 

Really want to take James Madison right now -4 at Marshall, Marshall has lost 2 str on the road and are at home now, but JM is a well tested road team this year, and are undefeated, i think they get this win and cover at Marshall, i expect a higher scoring game too, by that i mean i think JM will get theirs, they have scored 45, 41, and 31 last 3 games and Marshall has given up 41, 48, and 35 the total is 52, have to check the weather update, but this should go over, i was hoping it might drop to -3.5 or 3 but again do not think so, also last year was JM's 1st year in div 1, and they lost to marshall at home 26-12 as a 9.5 pt fav, so maybe some pay back here on the road, again buying down to 3 is -145  so ill lay the 4 here, also JM is + in the turnovers, and Marshall is -...marshall is avg 2 give aways and JM is avg 2 take aways   sounds good   gl 151

James Madison-4  -110   1.5 units 

watch and see how these lines move tonight, lines just came out 40 mins ago  got them all, so know what they are and were at the time they came out at 3 books  all are about the same, one move already is USC  from -5 to -6 vs UTAH  i kind of like UTAH here , and DUKE getting 13???  good defense, if their qb is back they could be worth a play at + 2 td's 

get yourself access to a fan duel account, one of those was lower & so was usc 

they toss out way early 

best wishes Rum 

Utah is now up to +7, line has moved 2 points since opening a few hours ago, i am seeing that James madison did open at like -3 and is now -4 so i am glad i did bet that when i did, earliest i got was 4 but it did open a few hours earlier it is showing , so feel better knowing that it most likely is not going down, here's one that has moved both ways, Cinn opened at -3.5 dropped to -1 is when i seen it, now it is -2 so early money hit Baylor pretty good, then people hit cinn at -1 to push it to 2 , people on the rutgers train again as that opened at -3 few hours later it went to 5, not 4 then 5 but right to 5, so must have been some early big action on rutgers, another one is Ohio st, they opened ar 5.5 and dropped to 4.5 in an hour, those big bettors they hit those things right away if they like them, my old boss would say when he gave them out to the so called syndicates if they leave it alone i know i got a good line...lol  Oregon jumps up 4 points from 15.5 to 19.5 now that does not mean it went from 15.5 to 16.5 and so on, what they do is, is if they get huge bets by a few they will take it down and just put it back up at a higher number and see what happens, can almost bet that is what happened here, taking it from 15.5 and jumping it to 19 covers that 16.5 and 17 and 17.5 number and most likely not many takers at -19.5 so it settles, some might see where Alabama opened at 7.5 and is now 9.5 but that opening line of 7.5 was in Feb, they opened today at 5:18pm at 9.5, the actual lines come out about 5 pm sundays for most games, sure on some games you can get an earlier line earlier on games like at 11 am, but for the average bettor its like 4-6 pm on sundays , sometimes sunday mornings for college but that is usually in vegas, like here is one that opened at 11:55 am sunday N.Western at Nebraska, this opened at 9.5 and is now Neb-13.5 thats another big jump , some people loved Nebraska under 2 td's and i agree but over 2 changes things .....I am going to go ahead and bet another game right now, i am going to take Missouri at home -6 vs S,car, sorry Beach..lol  but i am starting to agree that Missouri is a pretty good team, and i would maybe favor the OVER here to, as the total is 56.5, Missouri just seems like they have no problem getting into the 30's, and i do think S.car will get theirs, but at home and i can buy to 6 i like it, Missouri has won the last 4 meetings, and only one was within 7, i am thinking this could be a 41-30 style of game, i do think Missouri gets this by 10   so it is a play, only one book let's me buy points this early so they usually get my early action if i need to buy up or down Earlier i did bet UNLV at -7 and i just seen where that line did open at some books today about 1 pm at UNLV-4.5 and it went right to 7, man i wish i could have gotten 4-5  i love it at -7 not all lines come out sharp, I had mentioned earlier when i first put my bets in that i thought Duke at +13.5 looked interesting, well others thought so too, that line opened at 16.5 at 1 pm today and dropped to 13.5 so some in my opinion were lucky to get that over 2 td spread , i still think buying up looks good

Missouri-6 -120  1 unit

@WahooS

 yes i do see that some do come out earlier, as i wrote in my last post, but living in florida we cannot bet sports at those yet, damn Indians are tieing it up in court, or i would have them..lol  gl brother  i got a buddy who uses those and in HOOPS season he use to bitch that they did not let him like buy a half pt or a point, he had to buy like 2.5 points, i was like what???  fuck that and they do do that, i really miss 5 dimes, that was the best book ever, loved betting 1st 5 mins or 10 mins of a basketball game and they had all kinds of good bets,   gl brother

Toledo goes to Miami oh this week, 2 very good MAC schools playing each other for the 1st time since 2011, that seems odd to me, but its what i could find, and the home team has won the last 4 , it is true they have not played in 12 years, kind of thought it was a mistake since they are both Mac schools, but they have not played, both teams have won their last 6 after losing their openers, and both are now BOWL eligible ...Toledo lost at Illinois in a very close game by 2 points, and Miami Oh lost at Miami fl bigtime like 38-3, both coming off road wins as Toledo won at Ball st 13-6 and Miami Oh won 34-21 and were one of my winning plays last week, even though i grew up in toledo and lived there 53 years and have always been a fan, i think i would have to go with Miami Oh here in this match up, both teams are healthy, just do not see why Toledo is favored here, both teams won at U.Mass by about the same amount, and both beat W.Mich, only Miami won at W.Mich by 13 and Toledo won at home by 18, in the last game Toledo won 13-6 in a game where there were no TD's until 1 minute left when toledo scored to go up 13-6 after being tied 6-6, toledo did have 2 other drives end when they failed on 4th down, it was just a defensive game, Miami oh on the other hand played a much better game at WMU, as they were uo 21-10 at half and that was even after they threw a INT at their own 6 yd line and gave WMU a easy TD, then they fumbled at their own 30 the very next time wich lead to a missed fg by WMU, now they will not be able to do that and get away with it vs Toledo, but i think Miami has also been playing pretty good defense lately also as they have only given up 24 pts in their last 3 games, they shut out BG at home 27-0 and also beat Kent st 23-3 before that, and they are playing well offensively too, avg 31.6 pts a game, and this will be toledo's 3rd road game in a row, i am sticking with Miami here Toledo coming off a very tough game for them on the road, and they have to do it again, i do think some points could be scored, but i like Miami at home getting points , not going to buy to 3 just taking 2 because i think they win , this line opened at toledo-1 went to miami-1 now back to toledo-2 ill take it also toledo is only 2-5 ats and are 0-5 ats after a win and 1-5 ats as a fav, 0-2 as an away fav, and Miami is 6-1 ats and 2-0 ats at home and are 3-0 ats in conf, while toledo is 0-3 ats in conf....gl 151

Miami Oh +2 -110  1 unit   

Well i got Ohio st -3.5 at one book and -4.5 at the other, not sure who i like in that one yet or if i will even bet it, ...USC ran the ball 37 times vs N Dame last week and only got 103 yards, i find it hard to think they will try to run it 37 times vs Utah, but when these 2 teams play they do score a lot of points, they played 3 times the last 2 years, Utah has won all 3, i wonder if Rising is ever going to play, i would have to think he might play this week, they have a tough schedule coming up and they will need him, the totals of the last 3 games were 68, 71 and 85, the total they have now is 56, if ya think USC wins this ya have to think they are going to have to score 30+, point is can they hold Utah to under 30? personally i do not think so, i think if anything Utah's defense could hold USC lower, my 1st bet last week was NDame ML for 2 units, and i said then that it would be N.Dames defense that would win the game, i felt ND would score 30-34 and that they would hold USC to about what they did, did not think they would score 48, i do like Utah getting a td, but i might like the OVER 56 more , i do not usually mess around with big spreads, but i do kind of think Oklahoma and beat UCF by 20+, UCF has struggled, ever since blowing that huge lead at home to Baylor this team has not been the same and that can happen sometimes to teams when that happens, then they went to kansas and after Daniels was ruled out the line made them the favorite, and they got waxed by Kansas even without their star qb, then we watched kansas come back to earth losing to okla st who i did have last week, both teams are coming off a bye week, but i just think Oklahoma will be too much at home, and i am sure they want to move up even more in the polls, and if they were to win this BIG like 30 points i think that would really help them .....and for tomorrow, i am going to go ahead and play Jax st at home+7, i think we all have seen this team play enough this year, they are on TV every week, they are pretty good defensively, and they can put up some points also, they are now at home again after losing to Liberty 31-13 but the game was much closer i think, Jax st actually had the lead early and were tied at halftime 10-10, and right before half they had a chance at taking the lead when they got a fumble at their own 47 yard line with 1 min left in the half, they got it down to the Liberty 32 and then threw a INT, i think if they would have even gotten 3 there it might have changed things for them, they got the ball to start the half, 6 play drive they punt and liberty scores, 17-10 then they get a fg 17-13 then Liberty scored 2 more td's and Jax st only had the ball 4 times in the whole 2nd half, so i look for them to play better tomorrow, they have not played WKY before, and i think they will get the ball a few more times tomorrow, WKY is avg 28 pts a game and giving up 30, while Jax st is avg 24.5 pts a game and are giving up 22, i like Jax states defense better, they are only giving up 3 yds a carry, and 6 yds a pass play while WKY is giving up 4.9 yds a carry and 7.6 yds a pass play, both teams are in the + on to's i just have to grab 7 here at home, they should be up for this, ..both teams are 4-2 ats this year, Jax st is 1-0 ats after a loss, and at home they are 3-1 ats and WKY is 2-1 away, but WKY is just 1-2 str up away and Jax st is 3-1 str up at home give me a td...again this site does not let me paste my actual bet tickets, why?? i do not know, just something i have always done    but it is just a 1 unit play  +7 -110

JAX st+7  gl 151

You got on right side of Mizzou line, it went 7.5 quickly today , one of big groups went in with you 

the jax state is supported by my numbers but I’m considering over there, their pass defense is worse than the numbers show from my eye test but that’s the side of you bet it I think 

hope you win Rum 

I really miss 5 Dimes book, living in fla  cannot play at american books, 1st lines i got on usc was -5, within an hour 6pm it was 6 last night 7, where i go to find opening lines and changes it showed usc-5 at 5:07pm sunday i know they post lines maybe weeks ahead , but those come down, then on sundays after saturdays games the next week comes out, usually off shore got 1st, it means alot to get the best line possible, look at the washington game last week, some may have had -2 others 3  push to win, ...duke opened at 11 am sunday at +16.5 then to 14.5  the O/U was 51.5 and has dropped to 49  i think the over looks good there,  if Rising were to play i would take UTAH+7 easily with that defense, Utah much better scoring team with him playing, i wonder why he has not played yet, i remember the 1st game vs Fla, it was rurmored he might play then, remember the line going from -4 to -7 back to 4 , back to 7 then back to 4, that was 8 weeks ago , right now soonest i get lines is 5 pm sunday, going to download the apps anyway just so i can see the openers, after all when i was at wwts its what i did , 

gl 151 

Maybe Georgia state +3 again as a dog, this team is very good ats as a dog , and they are very good on the road, and they are a pretty good football team this year, this team is not a dog very much, they have covered the last 4 times they were a dog going back to Nov 5th 2022, and they have won 2 of those outright, and they are 15-3 ats the last 18 on the road, they play ULL this week and are +3 , they avg 35 pts a game on the road and give up 21, could be a higher scoring game as ULL is avg 39 pts at home and are giving up 27, and Ga st has covered their last 4 on the road and after a win they are 3-1 ats, and ULL after a win is 0-3 ats this year, ULL is 3-0 OVER after a win though, Ga st i think is a good football team, and on the road and as a dog they seem to cover, and they should be hungry for a win here because they have not beaten ULL since these 2 started playing in 2013 losing 6 str, they lost at ULL 23-21 in 2015, and they lost at ULL 34-31 in 2021 and they lost at home last year 21-17, in the last 2 meetings Ga st was a dog of 13.5 and of 17.5 pts, Saturday a dog of just 3 which is pretty much what they give the home team, they have been a good cover, they have some good trends supporting them, and they have been playing very well except the one game vs Troy, they score more on the road it seems , so why not, Ga st again +3 actually ML at +140 seems worth a shot too here....gl 151

Ga st +3 -115  1 unit   

@WahooS

 i am always liking OVERS...lol  always have, i agree Jax st has been surprising this year by how they have been scoring, and WKY is not like they have been , but still able enough to get this OVER i think  agree 

@RUM151

 I may go with Jax, my numbers support it, wku can’t stop anyone so they should score , I was just worried about them stopping wku from throwing so that’s why I lean slight to over 

@WahooS

 makes sense, i think Ga st on the road makes sense too, personally i am sick of having losses like Colorado up 29-0 and losing, west virg scoring with 12 sec's left and losing, ya know when i was watching that game and WV scored...lol 1st thing i thought to myself was why didn't the guy running it in slow down a little, there was no one realy that close, when he is at the 10 just slow down and almost stop at like the 3 and just walk, it would have taken maybe 3-5 seconds off the clock , then that penalty was stupid which made them kick from the 20, that 15 yards cost them, that hail mary pass got right to the end zone maybe 1 yard in, if that pass comes down at the 10 they do not win, so many things had to happen for that, that was 2 bad losses, then Rutgers??? what was that about?? the line was -4 i had i think it went off at 5 right?? well when rutgers scored with under 8 mins left to go up 24-21 why did they go for 2??  1 point puts them up 4 which means mich st has to score a td, i mean why 2? odd that he goes for 2 to make it a 5 pt lead when the line was 5, i mean they make it i win, kick it i push but i lost, thats 3 games last week, and Washington, goes for it on 4th and goal at the 1 they kick it they are down 1 not 4, then score a td they are up 6 and cover, sometimes ya just wonder, when ya win them its great even though you know you shouldn't have we have all been there, but when ya get like 3 in one week it sucks..lol  just cannot handicap hail mary passes, or teams holding another to 0 in 1st half then giving up 40 in the 2nd..lol   gl brother 

Damnit should have waited Jax st went to 7.5 which means could have bought to 8  i might add to it, ..see where it goes, it just went up about an hour ago  

gl 151

going to try Liberty again 1st half -7.5 ,  and am doing a teaser with Liberty-8/Jax st +14  

Overs are hard to get in Liberty games, this one is at 56, jax st game is 60 think i would favor that just based on how Jax st has actually been scoring last couple and WKY usually can, no reason this could not be a 34-31, 35-30 kind of game  , and Liberty could get over 30 theirself, but can MTSU get 24?     

gl 151

@RUM151

 where are u getting your opening lines from if u dont mind me asking boss been trying to see which books are best at opening lines 

@CRUMHEAD84

 well i live in florida, so we cannot use the MGM or any legal american ones, i get mine at Betonline or Betnow, lines come out about 5 pm sundays, now when i go back and check opening lines like at Odd shark they will show same thing but they also show lines come out at lets say 9 am 10 am 11 am , then they go right from there to like 5 pm  and it those hours you wil have the changes, its why you see some getting like USC-4  and then mine was 5, but real fast went to 6, then to 6.5 and 7 all on sunday, youll see like Texas 9am -20.5  then 22.5 then 23  to get those lines you have to have a book that post their lines early sunday, now sure we have seen lines come out 2 weeks early  2 months early those are futures, most lines come out sunday ty  gl

Well we start a new week of college football tonight, it has not been a very good 2 weeks, maybe the worst 2 weeks i have had in a long time in college, but as always w will post my plays and try to give some reasoning as to why i am betting these teams, that way people can maybe agree or maybe see something in there that is wrong, i always offer feedback on my threads, always like hearing what others think, and i am hoping that with a new week here, maybe we can not have these horrible beats to start the week, last week with the W.Virginia game was really bad, and then Colorado up 29-0 and loses, i mean just last week i had like 4 + games that should have been winners, and somehow late turned into losers , having teams driving to score and then turning it over, i mean just getting horrible bad breaks, that will happen, but not 4-5 times in a week, there are a couple of teams coming off bye weeks, Oklahoma and Texas, now there are a few who love Texas -22 at Houston, now it is 23, i mean they really like it, and i have mentioned that i like Oklahoma-19 at home over UCF, yes Houston is coming off the hail Mary pass, i understand liking Texas here, it's at Houston but i think this place will be full of Texas fans, coming off a loss like they did, should be wanting to perform well, and Oklahoma at home coming off a bye week also, so is UCF, and not to forget Plumlee is very ? with a knee injury this week, and UCF has really been struggling, again that loss at home vs Baylor when they were up by almost 20 and lost out right, then go to Kansas st as a small dog, but then when Daniels was listed as out, UCF went from small dog to small favorite, and yet still lost BIG , when looking at UCF what have they really done this year, they have lost their last 3 games losing at Kansas st by 13, losing at home to Baylor after being way up, losing at Kansas without Daniels by 29, before that they beat Villanova, before that they had a last second fg to beat Boise st, and before that they beat Kent st by 50, i really think Oklahoma -19 at home is just as good of a play as Texas is, maybe better, i just do not see what UCF will do at Oklahoma, the Total in this game is 65, that is a lot, i mean you have to think Oklahoma will have to score 45, and i think they can, but can UCF put up 20, if ya think UCF can score 20 i think the over could be a good play also, maybe look at the team total same with Texas, Houston will give up points, that Hail Mary pass by Houston just might have saved that coaches job, when WV scored with 12 seconds left you heard the announcers talking how that just might have cost him his job, if they lose that game, the Moral on that team would be very, low.....my point being is that if you like Texas why would you not think Oklahoma at home would be a good call also, and this line has not really moved at all, it shows it opened at 9am Sunday at 19.5 went to 19 then to 19.5 and has sat there, total of 65 so they are thinking 42-23, UCF has given 44 to Kansas st, then 36 to Baylor, then 51 to Kansas, i see nothing that says Oklahoma could not get 45+ here, OVER TT if weather is good should be a good play

Okla-19 i like and also Texas ..will post when and if played
gl 151

151! Great information and angles 

@RUM151

 Love your write ups Bol this weekend 

well Liberty gives up an easy 7 then scores a td right back, but ya hate starting like that giving away 7 when you only have a 1st half to make up, now i would need 17 unanswered to win

yea i am done with Liberty 1st half plays  it was a smaller one anyway, but np more liberty 1st half, ill give vredit to MTSU they scored, the over was the play in that game hate that i missed it being an over player

personally i am staying away from the USC play, unless i was sitting there when the line came out and got -3.5 or 4, i stay away when lines move 4 points in one day, that line opened like 11 am, and within hours it was 6 then by night it was 7, games like that tend to not cover, or maybe cover the opening, once i miss the sharp line i'd stay away unless i liked UTAH, and if Rising was playing i would take UTAH+7 , maybe the OVER, its 56 my view is if you really like USC what do you think the score will be? will USC win by 10-14?? will they hold UTAH under 20? will USC score 38? UTAH has a good defense, but the history of these 2 is shootout, but with no Rising that might change, But UTAH did finally put some points up last week, they put up 31 vs cal, that is the most they have scored all year, Meanwhile USC scored 20 the lowest they have scored all year, but again they gave up 48, UTAH can run the ball, i would almost think that if this stays UNDER Utah may cover, i mean 56 line is -7 so they are thinking 31.5-24.5 that would be the team totals right now, how would you play the team total???? Can Utah keep USC under 32?? if so can USC keep Utah under 25?? just another way to handicap a game , if i loved USC -6-7 i'd maybe go over their TT, Utah did lose at Oregon st 21-7, yes their offense was not good, but they did keep a decent team at home to 21, and the score was just 7-0 at half, down 14-0 Utah finally put together a 13 play drive then threw a INT at the 15 and Oregon st drove and scored , i just cannot figure out how this will be, i just know if Utah had their starter this would be diff, aand what i do not understand as far as the opening line?? i would have thought that if Cam Rising was starting, and let's say he had played already i would think that the opening line here would have been USC -3.5 -4 so with him out, and not have even played why is the opening number just 3.5-4 i mean no matter what ya think the people that set the lines and sell to the books are not stupid, ....espn has an article on line called the Bottom 10 after week 7, they have USC at #5 right ahead of akron and right below U.Mass.. article below

1. No-vada (0-6)?

There are years when we enter Week 8 with significant debate about which teams should be atop the bottom of these standings. Like that time we had a Bottom 10 selection committee meeting and Charlie Weis got so angry during a discussion that he hurled a bag of garbage at Jerry Glanville and then realized it was actually a bag of cash he'd just received from Notre Dame and Kansas. But this year, it's a two-horse race seeing as how there are only two winless teams remaining among the ranks of FBS football. The Woof Pack just lost to former Bottom 10 stalwart-turned-Mountain West contender UNLV. And who are the other oh-fers?

The Bearkats, who kouldn't kome out on top in a kontest with kohort Konference-USA newkomer kolleague New Mexiko State.

Likewise, there has been much deliberation, disputation, argumentation and all sorts of other 'ations about which member of the MAC Nation should be in this ranking location. Then the State of Kent made a state-ment on the very first play of its game with the EMU Emus.

In case you were wondering, and we most definitely were, Akron hosts Kent on Nov. 1, the night after Halloween. It's the college football equivalent of having to settle for all the penny candy wrapped in wax paper and boxes of raisins left in the bottom of your trick-or-treat bag after you've eaten all the good stuff.

After its spokesperson lost 48-20 at Notre Dame while throwing three interceptions, that national hamburger chain with all the commercials featuring USC's quarterback has a new special for this week only (they hope). After you order your food, they throw it at you from the drive-in window but miss your car by six feet and it gets run over by a passing truck.

The good news? The Minuetmen received $1.6 million to travel to Unhappy Valley and act as Penn State's warmup act before the Nittany Lions face Ohio State. The bad news? After losing 63-0, UMass will spend most of that money on Band-Aids and ibuprofen.

The Niners lost 14-0 to Navy, both touchdowns coming on plays of 60-plus yards in the second half. Now they take on another seafaring American Athletic Conference of American Athletics opponent in ...

... the Pirates, who seemingly haven't had a scoring play of 60-plus yards since back in the days when Charlotte head coach Biff Poggi still wore clothing with sleeves.

Last 2 were ball st and ariz st