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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 12:11 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:

    The USC loss wasn't such a shock.  Going on the road without a QB against a conference opponent is a tall order for any team.  I picked USC, but I know two people who picked Washington outright.
     
    I agree with you on Cincinatti.  I've been on board since day one.  I live 10 minutes from the Rugters campus.  The line in that game was a joke.  RU is trash, Cinci is Class.  I maxed out my account on the money line in that massacre, and I loaded up on them again against the Beavers.  Pike is a Horse.  To bad Vegas will have caught on to Cincinnati now.  No more gift lines.
     
    I can't believe the Georgia offense either.  Last year with Stafford, Knowshown, Massaquoi and the bunch, at times the Bulldog O couldn't get out of their own way!  This year they are suddenly a track team???  Go figure.
     
    The announcers in the UF/Tenn game were the worst.  I was mainly watching the USC mess, but what I was able to catch was pure poop.
     
    Alabama is only going to get better each week.  They have a realistic shot to win the national title.
     
    BOL!!! 
    I agree with this entire post, especially the bolded part at the end
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    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:

    The USC loss wasn't such a shock.  Going on the road without a QB against a conference opponent is a tall order for any team.  I picked USC, but I know two people who picked Washington outright.
     
    I agree with you on Cincinatti.  I've been on board since day one.  I live 10 minutes from the Rugters campus.  The line in that game was a joke.  RU is trash, Cinci is Class.  I maxed out my account on the money line in that massacre, and I loaded up on them again against the Beavers.  Pike is a Horse.  To bad Vegas will have caught on to Cincinnati now.  No more gift lines.
     
    I can't believe the Georgia offense either.  Last year with Stafford, Knowshown, Massaquoi and the bunch, at times the Bulldog O couldn't get out of their own way!  This year they are suddenly a track team???  Go figure.
     
    The announcers in the UF/Tenn game were the worst.  I was mainly watching the USC mess, but what I was able to catch was pure poop.
     
    Alabama is only going to get better each week.  They have a realistic shot to win the national title.
     
    BOL!!! 
    I agree with this entire post, especially the bolded part at the end
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 12:14 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    Hands down a better capper that I will ever be , but strongly disagree with you On the Illini . I know they always play them tough , but the Illini are flat out bad ..The Juice will be squeezed ..

    Like Ark St and Ore St
    maybe you are right, but Pryor should keep us his trend of a couple turnovers per game and Illinois generally doesn't get blown out by fellow conference opponents, I just don't think Ohio St is very good, but I guess Illinois could be very bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upside:

    Hands down a better capper that I will ever be , but strongly disagree with you On the Illini . I know they always play them tough , but the Illini are flat out bad ..The Juice will be squeezed ..

    Like Ark St and Ore St
    maybe you are right, but Pryor should keep us his trend of a couple turnovers per game and Illinois generally doesn't get blown out by fellow conference opponents, I just don't think Ohio St is very good, but I guess Illinois could be very bad
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 12:45 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    you can attempt to call me out at anytime, I'm not going to call you or anyone else a hater, all I can say about the Illinois game is you evidently didn't see the openers, the number 17 lasted a split second but the number 16.5 was around for more than a few minutes, I noticed you also disagreed with me thinking Penn St could possibly be "on the take" last week when I made mention of them not covering those spreads, well, they once again didn't cover the big number by laying down in the 2nd half, maybe I'm wrong about them, but I also called it when Toledo was doing the same thing, now their players are in federal court facing jail time, I don't remember you ever wishing me luck bro, just trying to call me out for some reason, I welcome any open conversation about the lines, games, whatever and I don't think your a hater if you disagree with something I write, I am very opinionated and obviously if I were always right I wouldn't be hitting at a 47% clip so far this year



    I mean... If you got it at 17 then good for you. I hope you win. But if you are lying about what you got, I think its a little pathetic. I mean, I personally never saw above 15. I use bookmaker and checked the line history on Covers and Vegas insider and neither show any line above 15 for that game. But like I said, if you really got that number, good for you.

    As for the Penn St players being on the take because they didnt cover. Thats what makes me think you are a joke. You are like the tons of losers yelling "WHO Payed deez reffs?!!?!" on every single game they lose. Just take your losses like a man. If you really called the Toledo thing, good for you, post a link and I will believe it. But just because you happened to pick one time in history when players were on the take, doesnt mean it isnt absurd to accuse to D1 college teams every time they done cover huge spreads
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    you can attempt to call me out at anytime, I'm not going to call you or anyone else a hater, all I can say about the Illinois game is you evidently didn't see the openers, the number 17 lasted a split second but the number 16.5 was around for more than a few minutes, I noticed you also disagreed with me thinking Penn St could possibly be "on the take" last week when I made mention of them not covering those spreads, well, they once again didn't cover the big number by laying down in the 2nd half, maybe I'm wrong about them, but I also called it when Toledo was doing the same thing, now their players are in federal court facing jail time, I don't remember you ever wishing me luck bro, just trying to call me out for some reason, I welcome any open conversation about the lines, games, whatever and I don't think your a hater if you disagree with something I write, I am very opinionated and obviously if I were always right I wouldn't be hitting at a 47% clip so far this year



    I mean... If you got it at 17 then good for you. I hope you win. But if you are lying about what you got, I think its a little pathetic. I mean, I personally never saw above 15. I use bookmaker and checked the line history on Covers and Vegas insider and neither show any line above 15 for that game. But like I said, if you really got that number, good for you.

    As for the Penn St players being on the take because they didnt cover. Thats what makes me think you are a joke. You are like the tons of losers yelling "WHO Payed deez reffs?!!?!" on every single game they lose. Just take your losses like a man. If you really called the Toledo thing, good for you, post a link and I will believe it. But just because you happened to pick one time in history when players were on the take, doesnt mean it isnt absurd to accuse to D1 college teams every time they done cover huge spreads
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:04 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by nyduccie:



    I mean... If you got it at 17 then good for you. I hope you win. But if you are lying about what you got, I think its a little pathetic. I mean, I personally never saw above 15. I use bookmaker and checked the line history on Covers and Vegas insider and neither show any line above 15 for that game. But like I said, if you really got that number, good for you.

    As for the Penn St players being on the take because they didnt cover. Thats what makes me think you are a joke. You are like the tons of losers yelling "WHO Payed deez reffs?!!?!" on every single game they lose. Just take your losses like a man. If you really called the Toledo thing, good for you, post a link and I will believe it. But just because you happened to pick one time in history when players were on the take, doesnt mean it isnt absurd to accuse to D1 college teams every time they done cover huge spreads
    maybe I just post fake numbers so I can get called out on them, maybe I am just some pathetic loser who likes to make myself look stupid by getting good numbers when they open

    as far as taking my losses like a man, I have not bet a Penn St game this season so I have no reason at all to care if they cover or not, I gave "random thoughts" of what I have seen from that team and how they have now laid down during the 2nd half in 3 straight games and haven't covered any of those numbers, just an observation I made

    I have been involved with many of those types of situations back when I was in school, I have known of so many players doing things for money it would make your head spin, I won't get into it because it doesn't matter to me if you think I'm truthful or not

    this is my last response to you in my thread, you should probably just avoid my threads from now on and then you don't have see me "whining" and making accusations and trying to draw attention to myself, you also don't have to watch me post "fake" pathetic lines that are never out there,  happy hunting NyDuccie

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    I mean... If you got it at 17 then good for you. I hope you win. But if you are lying about what you got, I think its a little pathetic. I mean, I personally never saw above 15. I use bookmaker and checked the line history on Covers and Vegas insider and neither show any line above 15 for that game. But like I said, if you really got that number, good for you.

    As for the Penn St players being on the take because they didnt cover. Thats what makes me think you are a joke. You are like the tons of losers yelling "WHO Payed deez reffs?!!?!" on every single game they lose. Just take your losses like a man. If you really called the Toledo thing, good for you, post a link and I will believe it. But just because you happened to pick one time in history when players were on the take, doesnt mean it isnt absurd to accuse to D1 college teams every time they done cover huge spreads
    maybe I just post fake numbers so I can get called out on them, maybe I am just some pathetic loser who likes to make myself look stupid by getting good numbers when they open

    as far as taking my losses like a man, I have not bet a Penn St game this season so I have no reason at all to care if they cover or not, I gave "random thoughts" of what I have seen from that team and how they have now laid down during the 2nd half in 3 straight games and haven't covered any of those numbers, just an observation I made

    I have been involved with many of those types of situations back when I was in school, I have known of so many players doing things for money it would make your head spin, I won't get into it because it doesn't matter to me if you think I'm truthful or not

    this is my last response to you in my thread, you should probably just avoid my threads from now on and then you don't have see me "whining" and making accusations and trying to draw attention to myself, you also don't have to watch me post "fake" pathetic lines that are never out there,  happy hunting NyDuccie

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:12 AM ET #30

    You're a fucking dumbass nyduccie.

    Can you say for a fact you saw the BM Illy/tOSU opener? You saw the screen the instant that line came up? No, you didn't. Your lazy stupid ass was jerking off scanning every line instead of checking 2-3 you knew you wanted to nail. I bet Wahoo hits refresh at Bookmaker four-five times a minute around the time the lines come out. I've seen this fucker hit soft openers for years now dude. I didn't see Illy this time because I don't use Bookmaker anymore, but I've seen the lines he posts in the past when I used Bookmaker. He isn't making anything up. Every year a clown like you can't handle that Wahoo is better at this shit than you and can't fathom that some people take this seriously and want to make real money, and every year they look like stupid assholes. You're not special.


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    You're a fucking dumbass nyduccie.

    Can you say for a fact you saw the BM Illy/tOSU opener? You saw the screen the instant that line came up? No, you didn't. Your lazy stupid ass was jerking off scanning every line instead of checking 2-3 you knew you wanted to nail. I bet Wahoo hits refresh at Bookmaker four-five times a minute around the time the lines come out. I've seen this fucker hit soft openers for years now dude. I didn't see Illy this time because I don't use Bookmaker anymore, but I've seen the lines he posts in the past when I used Bookmaker. He isn't making anything up. Every year a clown like you can't handle that Wahoo is better at this shit than you and can't fathom that some people take this seriously and want to make real money, and every year they look like stupid assholes. You're not special.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    maybe I just post fake numbers so I can get called out on them, maybe I am just some pathetic loser who likes to make myself look stupid by getting good numbers when they open

    as far as taking my losses like a man, I have not bet a Penn St game this season so I have no reason at all to care if they cover or not, I gave "random thoughts" of what I have seen from that team and how they have now laid down during the 2nd half in 3 straight games and haven't covered any of those numbers, just an observation I made

    I have been involved with many of those types of situations back when I was in school, I have known of so many players doing things for money it would make your head spin, I won't get into it because it doesn't matter to me if you think I'm truthful or not

    this is my last response to you in my thread, you should probably just avoid my threads from now on and then you don't have see me "whining" and making accusations and trying to draw attention to myself, you also don't have to watch me post "fake" pathetic lines that are never out there,  happy hunting NyDuccie



    Idk. I know a few guys particularly on Penn St and have met with a bunch of them and it sickens me how cowards on the internet can just throw accusations out there with absolutely nothing to back it up. (Not saying you are). You gave your opinion and your reason. I disagree with you, and dont 110% believe the Ill line, but at least you had the balls to intelligently defend yourself.

    Anyways, good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    maybe I just post fake numbers so I can get called out on them, maybe I am just some pathetic loser who likes to make myself look stupid by getting good numbers when they open

    as far as taking my losses like a man, I have not bet a Penn St game this season so I have no reason at all to care if they cover or not, I gave "random thoughts" of what I have seen from that team and how they have now laid down during the 2nd half in 3 straight games and haven't covered any of those numbers, just an observation I made

    I have been involved with many of those types of situations back when I was in school, I have known of so many players doing things for money it would make your head spin, I won't get into it because it doesn't matter to me if you think I'm truthful or not

    this is my last response to you in my thread, you should probably just avoid my threads from now on and then you don't have see me "whining" and making accusations and trying to draw attention to myself, you also don't have to watch me post "fake" pathetic lines that are never out there,  happy hunting NyDuccie



    Idk. I know a few guys particularly on Penn St and have met with a bunch of them and it sickens me how cowards on the internet can just throw accusations out there with absolutely nothing to back it up. (Not saying you are). You gave your opinion and your reason. I disagree with you, and dont 110% believe the Ill line, but at least you had the balls to intelligently defend yourself.

    Anyways, good luck.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:28 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by GAM:

    You're a fucking dumbass nyduccie.

    Can you say for a fact you saw the BM Illy/tOSU opener? You saw the screen the instant that line came up? No, you didn't. Your lazy stupid ass was jerking off scanning every line instead of checking 2-3 you knew you wanted to nail. I bet Wahoo hits refresh at Bookmaker four-five times a minute around the time the lines come out. I've seen this fucker hit soft openers for years now dude. I didn't see Illy this time because I don't use Bookmaker anymore, but I've seen the lines he posts in the past when I used Bookmaker. He isn't making anything up. Every year a clown like you can't handle that Wahoo is better at this shit than you and can't fathom that some people take this seriously and want to make real money, and every year they look like stupid assholes. You're not special.




    I love it when the bitter girlfriend comes to his defense. Relax hunny, he did fine defending himself without you coming on and just making random assumptions everywhere without saying that you witnessed anything yourself. If you believe everything you read on the internet thats good for you, but you are pathetic and not worth my time. And he didnt even say he used bookmaker. I said I used bookmaker. Get a clue or GTFO. "Wahoo is better than I could possibly imagine"... haha really? Better than I could even fathom? No wonder Covers forums are such a joke nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAM:

    You're a fucking dumbass nyduccie.

    Can you say for a fact you saw the BM Illy/tOSU opener? You saw the screen the instant that line came up? No, you didn't. Your lazy stupid ass was jerking off scanning every line instead of checking 2-3 you knew you wanted to nail. I bet Wahoo hits refresh at Bookmaker four-five times a minute around the time the lines come out. I've seen this fucker hit soft openers for years now dude. I didn't see Illy this time because I don't use Bookmaker anymore, but I've seen the lines he posts in the past when I used Bookmaker. He isn't making anything up. Every year a clown like you can't handle that Wahoo is better at this shit than you and can't fathom that some people take this seriously and want to make real money, and every year they look like stupid assholes. You're not special.




    I love it when the bitter girlfriend comes to his defense. Relax hunny, he did fine defending himself without you coming on and just making random assumptions everywhere without saying that you witnessed anything yourself. If you believe everything you read on the internet thats good for you, but you are pathetic and not worth my time. And he didnt even say he used bookmaker. I said I used bookmaker. Get a clue or GTFO. "Wahoo is better than I could possibly imagine"... haha really? Better than I could even fathom? No wonder Covers forums are such a joke nowadays.
     
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    BOL  this week WahooS, like your picks...especially Illinois and Michigan.
    *And You're RIGHT THERE with the opening line for the Illinois game, DON BEST showed 16.5 for the open...which is 'basically' what you described above.

    What do you think of Iowa at Penn st. ? I want to take Iowa (like their team overall) but I don't trust Stanzi on the road...can be a turnover machine.
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    BOL  this week WahooS, like your picks...especially Illinois and Michigan.
    *And You're RIGHT THERE with the opening line for the Illinois game, DON BEST showed 16.5 for the open...which is 'basically' what you described above.

    What do you think of Iowa at Penn st. ? I want to take Iowa (like their team overall) but I don't trust Stanzi on the road...can be a turnover machine.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 4:53 AM ET #34

    I've been watching wahoos post ever since I've been on here and the guy is who he says he is and I feel he is a sharp player like myself who is hitting the refresh button every Sunday at 3:30 PM PST to get the open numbers at bookmakers...what he says he gets I believe 100%...
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    I've been watching wahoos post ever since I've been on here and the guy is who he says he is and I feel he is a sharp player like myself who is hitting the refresh button every Sunday at 3:30 PM PST to get the open numbers at bookmakers...what he says he gets I believe 100%...
     
    wonwiththehook
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 6:20 AM ET #35

     get it turned around Wahoo !
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     get it turned around Wahoo !
     
    MaineRoad
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 9:44 AM ET #36

    Smoking Cat. 
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 10:01 AM ET #37

    Always like to see the smoking cat Wahoo...gl this week
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    Always like to see the smoking cat Wahoo...gl this week
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 10:13 AM ET #38

    Best of luck this week Wahoos
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    Best of luck this week Wahoos
     
    jackal7130
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 10:46 AM ET #39

    Gl this week Hoo, you WILL turn it around. Like a couple, get back up wit ya lata. EVERBODY slumps, but what the hell do you know, your an amateur!!!!!! LMFAO. Gl again bro.
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    Gl this week Hoo, you WILL turn it around. Like a couple, get back up wit ya lata. EVERBODY slumps, but what the hell do you know, your an amateur!!!!!! LMFAO. Gl again bro.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 10:54 AM ET #40

    Wahoo....class responses. Now go get them!       BOL
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 11:22 AM ET #41

    nydouche,  checking covers for actual opening numbers ???
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    nydouche,  checking covers for actual opening numbers ???
     
    Ap1Bfreetorun
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 11:48 AM ET #42

    I have followed Wahoo's selections (reading, not playing) through the years, I don't always post in them but I have always known him to be a straight-shooter.  If it makes someone feel like a "big man" trying to put him down JUST STAY OUT OF HIS THREADS.  Those of us that enjoy reading his selections and comments appreciate them, if you only want to grasp at straws and try to make his appear dishonest why don't you just start your own thread and leave Wahoo alone.  You can call me anything you like, ANYONE.  I don't care, at my age I have been called more bad names than you can think of.  It does not bother me.  Keep up the good work, Wahoo.
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    I have followed Wahoo's selections (reading, not playing) through the years, I don't always post in them but I have always known him to be a straight-shooter.  If it makes someone feel like a "big man" trying to put him down JUST STAY OUT OF HIS THREADS.  Those of us that enjoy reading his selections and comments appreciate them, if you only want to grasp at straws and try to make his appear dishonest why don't you just start your own thread and leave Wahoo alone.  You can call me anything you like, ANYONE.  I don't care, at my age I have been called more bad names than you can think of.  It does not bother me.  Keep up the good work, Wahoo.
     
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    I,m happy     to see you're location ( same than last year =====> No more Italy )....,so my friend hope to you you, in this place ..,with more peace in mind    ,get back on track..,yessss,like last year .

    Best of luck ! ! !  

    Note:  If you need a truck for carring the   ....,just let me know.
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    I,m happy     to see you're location ( same than last year =====> No more Italy )....,so my friend hope to you you, in this place ..,with more peace in mind    ,get back on track..,yessss,like last year .

    Best of luck ! ! !  

    Note:  If you need a truck for carring the   ....,just let me know.
     
    JettNole
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 12:15 PM ET #44

    GL, Wahoos. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidscott40:

    BOL  this week WahooS, like your picks...especially Illinois and Michigan.
    *And You're RIGHT THERE with the opening line for the Illinois game, DON BEST showed 16.5 for the open...which is 'basically' what you described above.

    What do you think of Iowa at Penn st. ? I want to take Iowa (like their team overall) but I don't trust Stanzi on the road...can be a turnover machine.
    I think Penn St. is better than Iowa and they are at home, not a real feel for that game at that number, as far as the opening numbers, I know what every single game opened at and you are correct with the Illinois game and the line, best of luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidscott40:

    BOL  this week WahooS, like your picks...especially Illinois and Michigan.
    *And You're RIGHT THERE with the opening line for the Illinois game, DON BEST showed 16.5 for the open...which is 'basically' what you described above.

    What do you think of Iowa at Penn st. ? I want to take Iowa (like their team overall) but I don't trust Stanzi on the road...can be a turnover machine.
    I think Penn St. is better than Iowa and they are at home, not a real feel for that game at that number, as far as the opening numbers, I know what every single game opened at and you are correct with the Illinois game and the line, best of luck
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRoad:

    Smoking Cat. 
    yes sir, he came strolling up in the driveway last night so I let him in the house, he immediately asked for a cigarette, he prefers menthol during football season
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    Smoking Cat. 
    yes sir, he came strolling up in the driveway last night so I let him in the house, he immediately asked for a cigarette, he prefers menthol during football season
     
    1969USC
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:43 PM ET #47

    Good stuff Wahoo.
     
    USC was short 4 important starters and the backup QB had a lousy game.  The coaches play calling was criminal.  And they still loss by only 3 points.  So what happens, AP puts WU at #24.  Watch Stanford spank WU.  (letdown plus the tree won't be caught by surprise)
     
    When I saw Fla. St. vs Miami, I thought both teams looked pretty good.  Now Fla. St. is -12 over S. Fla., and they just lost their QB for the year.  (puting Charlston Southern on their schedule cost them big)
    Solid bet there.
     
    I think most broadcasts are awful.  I wish they would put the dipshits on the left side of the stereo and all other sounds on the right side.  Then, if we wanted to do it, we could just eliminate the fools.  What's with ESPN showing the talking heads all the time?  What's with their hand movements? 
     
     
     
     
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    Good stuff Wahoo.
     
    USC was short 4 important starters and the backup QB had a lousy game.  The coaches play calling was criminal.  And they still loss by only 3 points.  So what happens, AP puts WU at #24.  Watch Stanford spank WU.  (letdown plus the tree won't be caught by surprise)
     
    When I saw Fla. St. vs Miami, I thought both teams looked pretty good.  Now Fla. St. is -12 over S. Fla., and they just lost their QB for the year.  (puting Charlston Southern on their schedule cost them big)
    Solid bet there.
     
    I think most broadcasts are awful.  I wish they would put the dipshits on the left side of the stereo and all other sounds on the right side.  Then, if we wanted to do it, we could just eliminate the fools.  What's with ESPN showing the talking heads all the time?  What's with their hand movements? 
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:44 PM ET #48

    You take care of that cat.  He's made me a lot of money over the years.  
     
    I'm not even sure the Smoking Cat can find a lot of value in this card, though.    Looks to me like the value plays are either going to be on terrible teams (UNM, Miami U, Army) or against really good teams (Arky, Oregon, Illinois).   
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    You take care of that cat.  He's made me a lot of money over the years.  
     
    I'm not even sure the Smoking Cat can find a lot of value in this card, though.    Looks to me like the value plays are either going to be on terrible teams (UNM, Miami U, Army) or against really good teams (Arky, Oregon, Illinois).   
     
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    Oh yeah, and stop making up your opening lines.
     
     
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    good luck..
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