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    THE GLASS BOWL Northern Illinois at Toledo Writeup and Play

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    Torreny3
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #1

    Nice win on the Chiefs last night. Let's be honest some good fortune as well, but probably were looking at a push if not the W. Makes up for getting hosed on USC a bit on Saturday. On to tonight.

    Northern Illinois at Toledo Under 68

    A lot is at stake here tonight as NIU takes on Toledo in the Glass Bowl, in a game with huge MAC conference implications. NIU blew them out last year 65-30, but this Toledo is very good at home and have performed well in this matchup historically. Norther Illinois is a solid team with wins over solid Army and Western Michigan squads, and features the conferences top offense led by quarterback Chandler Harnish, who can make plays with his arm and his legs, leading the team in rushing. Northern Illinois has been held to under 40 points only twice this season against Wisconsin and Buffalo. Wisconsin we can let slide, but Buffalo not so much. On the other side of the ball is a Toledo defense that has given up 40 only once to Boise State, and with the total set at 67 and NIU being 8.5 point dogs, Vegas clearly expects Toledo's defense to manage NIU's offense. Because NIU's defense has been suceptible at times, I think they know they need to slow the game down and pound the ball, or let Harnish run around, try to pick up first downs and keep the clock ticking. Toledo also has two good quarterbacks, who are both capable of escaping the pocket and picking up yards on the ground. As far as the side is concerned in this game, I think that everyone still remembers Toledo's game against Ohio State where they almost won, and I think this line might be slightly inflated as a result, though they could very well cover the number. I lean to the under tonight because I think NIU will try to slow the game down and pound the rock, it is a huge rivalry and a huge conference game, so I think nerves will be a factor early on as well. I think given the high-powered nature of NIU's offense, and their status as 8.5 point dogs with a total at 67, everything points to the under in this one, and I think there are enough good reasons to make it a play. I see a 35-28 Toledo type game.

    Posted Record: 17-10

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    Nice win on the Chiefs last night. Let's be honest some good fortune as well, but probably were looking at a push if not the W. Makes up for getting hosed on USC a bit on Saturday. On to tonight.

    Northern Illinois at Toledo Under 68

    A lot is at stake here tonight as NIU takes on Toledo in the Glass Bowl, in a game with huge MAC conference implications. NIU blew them out last year 65-30, but this Toledo is very good at home and have performed well in this matchup historically. Norther Illinois is a solid team with wins over solid Army and Western Michigan squads, and features the conferences top offense led by quarterback Chandler Harnish, who can make plays with his arm and his legs, leading the team in rushing. Northern Illinois has been held to under 40 points only twice this season against Wisconsin and Buffalo. Wisconsin we can let slide, but Buffalo not so much. On the other side of the ball is a Toledo defense that has given up 40 only once to Boise State, and with the total set at 67 and NIU being 8.5 point dogs, Vegas clearly expects Toledo's defense to manage NIU's offense. Because NIU's defense has been suceptible at times, I think they know they need to slow the game down and pound the ball, or let Harnish run around, try to pick up first downs and keep the clock ticking. Toledo also has two good quarterbacks, who are both capable of escaping the pocket and picking up yards on the ground. As far as the side is concerned in this game, I think that everyone still remembers Toledo's game against Ohio State where they almost won, and I think this line might be slightly inflated as a result, though they could very well cover the number. I lean to the under tonight because I think NIU will try to slow the game down and pound the rock, it is a huge rivalry and a huge conference game, so I think nerves will be a factor early on as well. I think given the high-powered nature of NIU's offense, and their status as 8.5 point dogs with a total at 67, everything points to the under in this one, and I think there are enough good reasons to make it a play. I see a 35-28 Toledo type game.

    Posted Record: 17-10

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #2

    Best of luck tonight everyone. Thoughts, comments and opinions welcome.
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    Best of luck tonight everyone. Thoughts, comments and opinions welcome.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:17 PM ET #3

    really  Army--W.mich ---
    what about  OHST, BOISE,SYR --- thats tougher opposition,

    Toledo has NIU number at the glass bowl as of late----one of my rules

    say, whena  team owns another-----well u know

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    really  Army--W.mich ---
    what about  OHST, BOISE,SYR --- thats tougher opposition,

    Toledo has NIU number at the glass bowl as of late----one of my rules

    say, whena  team owns another-----well u know

    bol
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:17 PM ET #4

     Good Luck buddy
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:19 PM ET #5

    Very nice write up. These teams are a little too inconsistent for me to make a play on the total, but I will take Toledo minus the points based on revenge factor alone.


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    Very nice write up. These teams are a little too inconsistent for me to make a play on the total, but I will take Toledo minus the points based on revenge factor alone.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:21 PM ET #6

    sportsbetter...good luck to you too.

    shark...why do you always come into my threads to talk shit? Did you catch that I didn't take a side?  I think Toledo is probably a better squad but because it's a huge rivalry and conference game I'm not touching a side. About all you have going for you is a nice avatar. Good luck tonight man.

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    sportsbetter...good luck to you too.

    shark...why do you always come into my threads to talk shit? Did you catch that I didn't take a side?  I think Toledo is probably a better squad but because it's a huge rivalry and conference game I'm not touching a side. About all you have going for you is a nice avatar. Good luck tonight man.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:22 PM ET #7

    Thanks samdude...good luck tonight, you may very well have the right side.
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    Thanks samdude...good luck tonight, you may very well have the right side.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:23 PM ET #8

    tuesday night games go under more often than not
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:29 PM ET #9

    Professional...I don't really cap based on things like that, but I appreciate your input. Always like to see who you're on. I guess I'll take any trend working in my favor. GL tonight buddy. 
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    Professional...I don't really cap based on things like that, but I appreciate your input. Always like to see who you're on. I guess I'll take any trend working in my favor. GL tonight buddy. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:54 PM ET #10

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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 3:56 PM ET #11

    Good luck tonight catera.
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:00 PM ET #12

    I like your thoughts here, I was leaning under when I first saw line. Nice write-up, like the nerves point.
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    I like your thoughts here, I was leaning under when I first saw line. Nice write-up, like the nerves point.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:07 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by akatdrake:

    I like your thoughts here, I was leaning under when I first saw line. Nice write-up, like the nerves point.

    thanks buddy. with all that's at stake between the conference implications and the rivalry, I do think both teams could come out a little tight. Wouldn't be shocked to see it open up in the second half a bit, but probably not enough to reach 68 points. GL tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akatdrake:

    I like your thoughts here, I was leaning under when I first saw line. Nice write-up, like the nerves point.

    thanks buddy. with all that's at stake between the conference implications and the rivalry, I do think both teams could come out a little tight. Wouldn't be shocked to see it open up in the second half a bit, but probably not enough to reach 68 points. GL tonight.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:15 PM ET #14

     I teased game for under 74 1/2 and toledo -1 1/2

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     I teased game for under 74 1/2 and toledo -1 1/2

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepe15:

     I teased game for under 74 1/2 and toledo -1 1/2

    I think you're probably in good shape with that pepe...I could see NIU winning the game, but I don't think it's all that likely. GL buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepe15:

     I teased game for under 74 1/2 and toledo -1 1/2

    I think you're probably in good shape with that pepe...I could see NIU winning the game, but I don't think it's all that likely. GL buddy.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:23 PM ET #16

    I took the OVER, owever, I do appreciate the write-up

    Good Luck buddy!
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    I took the OVER, owever, I do appreciate the write-up

    Good Luck buddy!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:29 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Torreny3:

    Best of luck tonight everyone. Thoughts, comments and opinions welcome.


    IF U DONT WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN TO UR THREADS TO POST SHIT THEN DONT WRITE

    ""...THOUGHTS,COMMENS,OPINIONS WELCOME..""

    IF U CANT HANDLE THE HEAT ITS NOT MY PROBLEM--GET USED TO IT IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY

    and i dont mean to be a dick , and i saw ur not taking a side ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torreny3:

    Best of luck tonight everyone. Thoughts, comments and opinions welcome.


    IF U DONT WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN TO UR THREADS TO POST SHIT THEN DONT WRITE

    ""...THOUGHTS,COMMENS,OPINIONS WELCOME..""

    IF U CANT HANDLE THE HEAT ITS NOT MY PROBLEM--GET USED TO IT IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY

    and i dont mean to be a dick , and i saw ur not taking a side ....

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:30 PM ET #18

    Rarfuls...thanks man, good luck. At least one of us will be a winner at the end of the night.
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    Rarfuls...thanks man, good luck. At least one of us will be a winner at the end of the night.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:35 PM ET #19

    Toledo 48 N.ill 26 final

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    Toledo 48 N.ill 26 final

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:38 PM ET #20

    I came up with a total of 61, so the under is my play as well, but not a strong one.
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    I came up with a total of 61, so the under is my play as well, but not a strong one.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:40 PM ET #21

    shark...thoughts and opinions are welcome, but not when you're a confrontational douche about it.  Has nothing to do with handling the heat. And why are you posting in all caps like a ten year old kid? I didn't go into detail about Toledo's strength of schedule because i'm not playing a side, but I did mention that the only team to hang 40 on them was Boise, so I didn't think they'd yield a lot of points, which is part of why I like the under. You may not mean to be a dick, but you have one hell of an abrasive internet demeanor, not to mention a poor handle on the English language. Not trying to start a war, but cool your fucking jets please.

    vietday...I have a little bit of a hard time seeing it that lopsided, but you could be right...and I would take it! GL buddy.

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    shark...thoughts and opinions are welcome, but not when you're a confrontational douche about it.  Has nothing to do with handling the heat. And why are you posting in all caps like a ten year old kid? I didn't go into detail about Toledo's strength of schedule because i'm not playing a side, but I did mention that the only team to hang 40 on them was Boise, so I didn't think they'd yield a lot of points, which is part of why I like the under. You may not mean to be a dick, but you have one hell of an abrasive internet demeanor, not to mention a poor handle on the English language. Not trying to start a war, but cool your fucking jets please.

    vietday...I have a little bit of a hard time seeing it that lopsided, but you could be right...and I would take it! GL buddy.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 4:42 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Atlanta:

    I came up with a total of 61, so the under is my play as well, but not a strong one.

    Interesting. I think, as I said in the writeup, that given that NIU scores 40+ in all but two games this season, and the total is 68 with NIU as eight point dogs, Vegas really sees Toledo limiting the run game. GL buddy, hope we cash the ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlanta:

    I came up with a total of 61, so the under is my play as well, but not a strong one.

    Interesting. I think, as I said in the writeup, that given that NIU scores 40+ in all but two games this season, and the total is 68 with NIU as eight point dogs, Vegas really sees Toledo limiting the run game. GL buddy, hope we cash the ticket.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2011 - 6:17 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Torreny3:

    shark...thoughts and opinions are welcome, but not when you're a confrontational douche about it.  Has nothing to do with handling the heat. And why are you posting in all caps like a ten year old kid? I didn't go into detail about Toledo's strength of schedule because i'm not playing a side, but I did mention that the only team to hang 40 on them was Boise, so I didn't think they'd yield a lot of points, which is part of why I like the under. You may not mean to be a dick, but you have one hell of an abrasive internet demeanor, not to mention a poor handle on the English language. Not trying to start a war, but cool your fucking jets please.

    vietday...I have a little bit of a hard time seeing it that lopsided, but you could be right...and I would take it! GL buddy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Torreny3:

    shark...thoughts and opinions are welcome, but not when you're a confrontational douche about it.  Has nothing to do with handling the heat. And why are you posting in all caps like a ten year old kid? I didn't go into detail about Toledo's strength of schedule because i'm not playing a side, but I did mention that the only team to hang 40 on them was Boise, so I didn't think they'd yield a lot of points, which is part of why I like the under. You may not mean to be a dick, but you have one hell of an abrasive internet demeanor, not to mention a poor handle on the English language. Not trying to start a war, but cool your fucking jets please.

    vietday...I have a little bit of a hard time seeing it that lopsided, but you could be right...and I would take it! GL buddy.



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     not to mention a poor handle on the English language. Not trying to start a war, but cool your fucking jets please.

    vietday...I have a little bit of a hard time seeing it that lopsided, but you could be right...and I would take it! GL buddy.

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    well, im not here to give or take grammar lessons, do i? and some of my poor grammar has to do with the fact i have sight problems, and type pretty fast at times, thats why i also writte in caps some times
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     not to mention a poor handle on the English language. Not trying to start a war, but cool your fucking jets please.

    vietday...I have a little bit of a hard time seeing it that lopsided, but you could be right...and I would take it! GL buddy.

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    well, im not here to give or take grammar lessons, do i? and some of my poor grammar has to do with the fact i have sight problems, and type pretty fast at times, thats why i also writte in caps some times
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