Somebody talk to me about K St vs Navy

Any talk of '3 weeks to prepare for the option' and 'their coach used to play in a conf that ran it so he can teach the kids how to defend it' is, to me, very wishful thinking. Theyre a big12 team. Teams in that conf are passing teams and the ones that tun, like Oklahoma and Ok st, run out of the shotgun and RPOs. These kids will have never seen anything like this offense. And they wont be able to learn how to defend it in three weeks. You can't replicate cut blocks in practice.

I think people are overestimating how much practice these kids get in the weeks leading up to a bowl. Believe it or not some do actually attend class and have exams in December, plus all the usual partying etc that happens with the end of a season/semester and the holiday season.

Getting matched up with an option team must feel like being given a 10,000 word essay as homework over the holidays. Thats why I think the military schools have done well in bowls, it's just a pain in the hole to play them and hard to get up for.

Ken nimalotowhatever has established his system at Navy, he's not gonna lose to a newly promoted FCS coach at a school that isnt that good in a conference that isnt really that good, IMO. Malcolm Perry finally beat Army now he's got a good opportunity to go out with a bowl game win.

And really, do you want to put your hard earned on a guy named Skylar, or a guy named Malcolm who is in the friggin Navy?

Train, my brotha... I have only one large play tomorrow... I'll simply tail your card tomorrow except I'm on Texas large and that will not change... What are our plays for the 31st?

A few other points: Navy has done well in putting up points early and getting a first half lead and they are hard to come back on as they just sit on the ball then. K state is  not particularly explosive or efficient on offense, down in the 80s in rankings for yards per play and punts per play. You really have to make the most of your possessions when you play these option teams as you dont get many.

Navy has a much better turnover ratio, been getting takeaways lately.

Of the 8 wins K St has, 1 was against an FCS school, 1 was against Bowling Green who is absolutely awful, and the other 6 conf wins?

5 of those were against teams that didnt make a bowl. The other 3 were Oklahoma, Miss St, and Iowa St. Who all made a bowl. And each one got blown out. Well Miss state only lost by 10 but it was actually not that close, Louisville outgained them hugely, fumbled at the goal line early which was a 14 pt swing and gave up a garbage time TD.

Now, Navy isnt notre dame or LSU but so far the big 12 looks bad, losing all their bowls so far, Ok st covered but lost SU. Have any big12 teams won a bowl yet this year? None that i recall...

Navy ML -145

Could not agree more with this post.  Navy -3.

Nobody mentioned special teams  Navy is horrible while KSU is near the top. They have a true freshman Youngblood who has 3 Tds this yr. He'd be number one but is 3 returns (I think) short of qualifying for rankings. Big 12 1st team

Teased Kansas State up with Utah 

exactly what i was thinking reading up on some of the beat reports. go ahead and do walk throughs, or even scrimmage your own team all you want. playing a team that runs this day in and day out, and who has done it successfully at a high rate, is something completely different. i think we will get a good look at what will happen by the end of the first half. either k st will get it or they won't. if not, i highly doubt they'll be able to make the adjustments within half time to bounce back. the one thing that gets me nervous is that navy's competition has been weak. over L14 games, they are 4-9-1 ats against teams with a winning record and only three of those wins came against bowl teams. before they played army, they were 0-3-1 ats on a neutral and 1-4 ats L5 as a favorite. 

good luck, fellas

Both teams kinda evens out on attack x defense but to me the edge in this game comes down on the best quarterback and that’s perry by more than -3 pts vs thompson 

I'm on KSU with that Offensive Line that is all Seniors and I think they've all started since they were underclassmen.  They handled us (Iowa State) similar to what Notre Dame did in the bowl game so I would anticipate something similar for KSU in their bowl game.

This is some good stuff people. I have nothing to add other than after reading this thread and many others, it seems like to me. And I repeat it seems to me. K State and the under is what the people believe in. So Navy and the over for me.  

I thought K State was the best bet of the day, Thats why I wont be surprised if they don't cover

GL and Go Wildcats +3

I wish we could get some similar threads on the rest of the bowl games where people share some good

thoughts in one place.

How come when it comes to playing service academies it's all about the other team adjusting and has a month to prepare for Navy. Doesn't that also mean Navy has a month to add wrinkles to their game plan?

Well, wasn't a KO, but special teams comes into play