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    Vinny Vegas
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 5:02 PM ET #351

    WORD

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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 5:05 PM ET #352

    Charlotte ive not always agreed with all your picks but man these write ups are awesome and i feel its made me think differently of when, who and how to enjoy this hobby

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    Charlotte ive not always agreed with all your picks but man these write ups are awesome and i feel its made me think differently of when, who and how to enjoy this hobby

    Thanks
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 5:08 PM ET #353

    watch out Tyger..you're in the lions den
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 6:25 PM ET #354

      Totally awesom! Thanks so much!
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 6:45 PM ET #355

    Most of the general public are hammering Clemson and the OVER.  The problem I have with playing Clemson is that the books are not comfortable moving the line up to -3.5 and off a key number such as -3 (FG) which translates to me that WVU is possibly the better play with more value. 

    Also, as they hammer the total to go OVER the books are very comfortable in raisng the total several points meaning they want more action on the under.

    The books would like to see WVU hit and the UNDER but feel there is good value in WVU and not so much in the UNDER.

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    Most of the general public are hammering Clemson and the OVER.  The problem I have with playing Clemson is that the books are not comfortable moving the line up to -3.5 and off a key number such as -3 (FG) which translates to me that WVU is possibly the better play with more value. 

    Also, as they hammer the total to go OVER the books are very comfortable in raisng the total several points meaning they want more action on the under.

    The books would like to see WVU hit and the UNDER but feel there is good value in WVU and not so much in the UNDER.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 6:46 PM ET #356

    U are the general public dude
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:03 PM ET #357

    what's up men??????

    can't say enough about the support, it def makes the time put in to research and articulate in a write up worth it.  As i said before, we're all on the same team and I like creating a positive amoeba!!!!!

    let's get it on...


    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpyv
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
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    what's up men??????

    can't say enough about the support, it def makes the time put in to research and articulate in a write up worth it.  As i said before, we're all on the same team and I like creating a positive amoeba!!!!!

    let's get it on...


    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpyv
    West Virginia's shotgun, no-huddle offense leads the Big East in scoring (34.9 per game), total offense (459.6 yards) and passing (341.8 yards). All-Big East quarterback Geno Smith is seventh nationally in passing yards per game (331.5). Receiver Tavon Austin is second in the country in all-purpose yards (191.1). Receiver Stedman Bailey leads the Big East in receiving yards (99.6 per game).

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
    "The best way to describe it to a person who doesn't have to defend it is that it's like playing in Canada," said Steele. "They've got 12 men out there and two guys in motion. It's not the way we play American football. But that's almost the way it looks sometimes (with West Virginia)."

    Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/03/2894584/tigers-preparing-for-mountaineers.html#storylink=cpy
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #358

    these bcs games may not have had the "right" teams in these games, but they have been exciting, at least to me they have, i like offense just as good as defense, and anytime overtime comes in play it usually makes for a good game. I think there will be another one here tonight.  Both of these teams have insane athletic ability and talent and damn good offenses.  wvu is bringing their much improved mike leach, errrr, dana holgerson offense into this one.  Their spread is a bit different, Steele (clemson d coord) likens it to canadian football with 12 guys on offense and two in motion.  they are very fast paced and geno smith does a great job of catching/throwing in the shotgun - quick passing game neutralizes a pass rush, that will no doubt be clemson's MO on defense, but i'm not sure they will get there in time.  not really worried about garrison being out, alston had 10 td's on the year (only 1 less than austin) and buie was the best of the 3 in spring ball and got dinged up early in the season, so not too worried about that, clemson doesn't stop the run very well anyway.  since clemson lost bowers and jenkins to the nfl, their d line hasn't been too impressive - i don't think they will get to smith and be able to slow him down, the only thing that will slow the wvu offense down is poor execution, geno smith is pretty damn accurate, so i think wvu offense will have success on clemson d. 
    clemson offense has been about boyd to watkins, which opens up lanes for ellington.  look at clemson in the first 3/4 of the season, they lit everyone up - with a healthy watkins.  when watkins got dinged up and when their game against nc state didn't matter, clemson offense suffered.  watkins is healthy and between him allen and ellington, i expect them to take advantage of wv defense who has felt some pain from losing berry, nield and sands and some others from their defense last year that was pretty stout at times.  irvin is a play maker and just might make a play to shift the game in wvu favor.  wvu is pretty small up front and without a stout front in a 3-3-5 defense, i don't see them bothering boyd too much, which means boyd to watkins or boyd to allen or room for ellington should be happening tonight.  i really think these two are pretty even and when teams are even, i like getting points. wvu is 3-0ats this year in games where line is +/-3, clemson just 1-1. 
    I see some points being scored tonight in a back and forth game, The teams averaged a combined 68.5 points and gave up 52.5. Even Holgorsen seems resigned to having to outscore the Tigers."Yeah, our biggest thing as a football team is to figure out how to score one more point,'' Holgorsen said Tuesday. "And if they make a bunch of plays offensively, which we anticipate they will, we defensively need to line up and try to do our best to stop them. But offensively we need to counter with that.''

    Clemson/WVU OVER 64

    WVU +3.5

    Tease WVU +10.5 to OVER 57

    and have the 2nd half of my VT/WVU tease with WVU +10
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    these bcs games may not have had the "right" teams in these games, but they have been exciting, at least to me they have, i like offense just as good as defense, and anytime overtime comes in play it usually makes for a good game. I think there will be another one here tonight.  Both of these teams have insane athletic ability and talent and damn good offenses.  wvu is bringing their much improved mike leach, errrr, dana holgerson offense into this one.  Their spread is a bit different, Steele (clemson d coord) likens it to canadian football with 12 guys on offense and two in motion.  they are very fast paced and geno smith does a great job of catching/throwing in the shotgun - quick passing game neutralizes a pass rush, that will no doubt be clemson's MO on defense, but i'm not sure they will get there in time.  not really worried about garrison being out, alston had 10 td's on the year (only 1 less than austin) and buie was the best of the 3 in spring ball and got dinged up early in the season, so not too worried about that, clemson doesn't stop the run very well anyway.  since clemson lost bowers and jenkins to the nfl, their d line hasn't been too impressive - i don't think they will get to smith and be able to slow him down, the only thing that will slow the wvu offense down is poor execution, geno smith is pretty damn accurate, so i think wvu offense will have success on clemson d. 
    clemson offense has been about boyd to watkins, which opens up lanes for ellington.  look at clemson in the first 3/4 of the season, they lit everyone up - with a healthy watkins.  when watkins got dinged up and when their game against nc state didn't matter, clemson offense suffered.  watkins is healthy and between him allen and ellington, i expect them to take advantage of wv defense who has felt some pain from losing berry, nield and sands and some others from their defense last year that was pretty stout at times.  irvin is a play maker and just might make a play to shift the game in wvu favor.  wvu is pretty small up front and without a stout front in a 3-3-5 defense, i don't see them bothering boyd too much, which means boyd to watkins or boyd to allen or room for ellington should be happening tonight.  i really think these two are pretty even and when teams are even, i like getting points. wvu is 3-0ats this year in games where line is +/-3, clemson just 1-1. 
    I see some points being scored tonight in a back and forth game, The teams averaged a combined 68.5 points and gave up 52.5. Even Holgorsen seems resigned to having to outscore the Tigers."Yeah, our biggest thing as a football team is to figure out how to score one more point,'' Holgorsen said Tuesday. "And if they make a bunch of plays offensively, which we anticipate they will, we defensively need to line up and try to do our best to stop them. But offensively we need to counter with that.''

    Clemson/WVU OVER 64

    WVU +3.5

    Tease WVU +10.5 to OVER 57

    and have the 2nd half of my VT/WVU tease with WVU +10
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:06 PM ET #359

    haha, damn, sorry, not sure what happened in the thread above, when i copy and paste things i read into the write up it normally pastes, but that obviously didn't
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    haha, damn, sorry, not sure what happened in the thread above, when i copy and paste things i read into the write up it normally pastes, but that obviously didn't
     
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    BOL
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    WV

    Over

     

    bol

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    WV

    Over

     

    bol

     
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    GL.
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:11 PM ET #363

    good luck guys!
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:18 PM ET #364

    Another excellent, well prepared analysis....I got WVU at +4...."Laying the lumber' on this one!....With 88% of the public on the Clemson side and ML, and after reading your article, I'm on it..Also got the same teaser you posted...Muchas Gracias!!.....Always my best to you!
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    Another excellent, well prepared analysis....I got WVU at +4...."Laying the lumber' on this one!....With 88% of the public on the Clemson side and ML, and after reading your article, I'm on it..Also got the same teaser you posted...Muchas Gracias!!.....Always my best to you!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #365

    Thanks for the pick and analysis. Interesting a handicapper from NC picking WV. Its gotta be good.
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    Thanks for the pick and analysis. Interesting a handicapper from NC picking WV. Its gotta be good.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:22 PM ET #366

    Lets get it Charlotte
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    as always  thanks for taking the time
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    as always  thanks for taking the time
     
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    Happy New Years to an Old Covers Capper CharlotteSports


    Go WV!
    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Go WV!
     
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    You lead, I follow 
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:39 PM ET #370

    haha, and you know a hokie fan doesn't exactly like to root for WVU, but as i said in my post for the hokies last night, i am not afraid to bet against my team or on a team i typically root against. 

    thanks men, much appreciated.

    MacWestie - what up brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope all is well up there!!!
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    haha, and you know a hokie fan doesn't exactly like to root for WVU, but as i said in my post for the hokies last night, i am not afraid to bet against my team or on a team i typically root against. 

    thanks men, much appreciated.

    MacWestie - what up brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope all is well up there!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:41 PM ET #371

      Books gonna get hurt tonight GL !
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    i sure hope so,   
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    I am with you. I thought you mentioned you were a Clemson fan.

    Best of luck to you tonight.

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    I am with you. I thought you mentioned you were a Clemson fan.

    Best of luck to you tonight.

     
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    On West Virginia +3 -105 


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