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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 1:49 PM ET #26

    DAN H. always beat HI when he was at Boise.  Just something to consider.
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 1:54 PM ET #27

    The way I see it, the team that is going to come out flat or lacking energy is going to be Colorado. CU won their Super Bowl in week 1 vs Colorado State (which is meaningless due to how bad CSU is), and then spent the next week calling the Cal game a "barometer" game. Well, we now know where CU stands. They have a huge O-line that is slow. Hansen can only complete short passes, and he is apparently color blind. They went from the top of the mountain to the cellar all in one week.

    Hawaii is staying in Vegas, but they are not on the strip. They are also not allowed on the strip. Am I dumb enough to think that they aren't partying? NO. But they are in the middle of nowhere studying and practicing football. I think they come out focused and throwing the ball all over the yard. If CU gets behind early, the game is over. They are gripping so tight right now. We have "fire Dan Hawkins" and "this year was supposed to be different" all over the place. The team that has all the pressure is CU, and I think they will play like it until Hawkins gets fired.

    I was all about the Buffs in week 1, but that was against the worst team in college football. I think they lose straight up. Just my two cents.

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    The way I see it, the team that is going to come out flat or lacking energy is going to be Colorado. CU won their Super Bowl in week 1 vs Colorado State (which is meaningless due to how bad CSU is), and then spent the next week calling the Cal game a "barometer" game. Well, we now know where CU stands. They have a huge O-line that is slow. Hansen can only complete short passes, and he is apparently color blind. They went from the top of the mountain to the cellar all in one week.

    Hawaii is staying in Vegas, but they are not on the strip. They are also not allowed on the strip. Am I dumb enough to think that they aren't partying? NO. But they are in the middle of nowhere studying and practicing football. I think they come out focused and throwing the ball all over the yard. If CU gets behind early, the game is over. They are gripping so tight right now. We have "fire Dan Hawkins" and "this year was supposed to be different" all over the place. The team that has all the pressure is CU, and I think they will play like it until Hawkins gets fired.

    I was all about the Buffs in week 1, but that was against the worst team in college football. I think they lose straight up. Just my two cents.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 2:36 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    Hawaii's travel schedule isn't all that tricky. They flew to Vegas after the Army game.

    I am going to take the points, but also the moneyline on Hawaii. Colorado doesn't have the offensive firepower to keep pace with Hawaii.

     

    love the moneyline here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    Hawaii's travel schedule isn't all that tricky. They flew to Vegas after the Army game.

    I am going to take the points, but also the moneyline on Hawaii. Colorado doesn't have the offensive firepower to keep pace with Hawaii.

     

    love the moneyline here

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:00 PM ET #29

    Another thing about Hawaii staying in Vegas, it may not be as bad as it seems since Vegas is called the 8th island of Hawaii( get plenty of us islanders that live in vegas). Quite a few players have family that live in Vegas so there stay there feels very comfortable imo.
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    Another thing about Hawaii staying in Vegas, it may not be as bad as it seems since Vegas is called the 8th island of Hawaii( get plenty of us islanders that live in vegas). Quite a few players have family that live in Vegas so there stay there feels very comfortable imo.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:09 PM ET #30

    Hawaii covers in a close game.       
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:12 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoils:

     

    Hawaii has been staying on the mainland whenever they've had back to back road games. They've been doing this for at least  the past 5 years. So it's not like it's something foreign to them being away for an extended period of time.

     

    Yes but being 1-7 ATS their last 8 in the 2nd of back to back road games in something they are familiar with also.

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    Hawaii has been staying on the mainland whenever they've had back to back road games. They've been doing this for at least  the past 5 years. So it's not like it's something foreign to them being away for an extended period of time.

     

    Yes but being 1-7 ATS their last 8 in the 2nd of back to back road games in something they are familiar with also.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:15 PM ET #32

    i can't imagine how anyone would be putting money on Hawaii this week... that is unfathomable!
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    i can't imagine how anyone would be putting money on Hawaii this week... that is unfathomable!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:16 PM ET #33

    why are they in vegas? dont they have classes to go to?
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:20 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by roscoepekotrain:

    This is great news that the public is all on Hawaii, I played college football and I understand travel, They will not be able to properly prepare for this game while Colorado will be able to totally prepare for Hawaii's offensive game plan, this game won't be close.  Blowout city.  The fact that Colorado got killed last week vs Cal and Hawaii won on the road after there long travel makes this an even sweeter play

     

    USC had all summer to prepare for Hawaii, you tellin me Colorados D is better than SC's??? and your saying they can prepare for it in a week after getting completely destroyed by Cal..save your money bro Hawaiis the play or nothing Greg Salas and Kealoha Pilares are complete burners than you have Pollard tearin up the center of the field Colorado wont be able to contain them..Colorado will have to go score for score with Hawaii and i dont think they have the offensive talent to get it done..i will have a small play on the Hawaii ML

    GL with your play tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoepekotrain:

    This is great news that the public is all on Hawaii, I played college football and I understand travel, They will not be able to properly prepare for this game while Colorado will be able to totally prepare for Hawaii's offensive game plan, this game won't be close.  Blowout city.  The fact that Colorado got killed last week vs Cal and Hawaii won on the road after there long travel makes this an even sweeter play

     

    USC had all summer to prepare for Hawaii, you tellin me Colorados D is better than SC's??? and your saying they can prepare for it in a week after getting completely destroyed by Cal..save your money bro Hawaiis the play or nothing Greg Salas and Kealoha Pilares are complete burners than you have Pollard tearin up the center of the field Colorado wont be able to contain them..Colorado will have to go score for score with Hawaii and i dont think they have the offensive talent to get it done..i will have a small play on the Hawaii ML

    GL with your play tho

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 3:22 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by suckerg:

    why are they in vegas? dont they have classes to go to?

    LOL these kids never go to class, and when they do they dont do shit but act like clowns..sitting in the back crackin jokes the whole time..Colt Brennan NEVER went to class

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    Quote Originally Posted by suckerg:

    why are they in vegas? dont they have classes to go to?

    LOL these kids never go to class, and when they do they dont do shit but act like clowns..sitting in the back crackin jokes the whole time..Colt Brennan NEVER went to class

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 4:14 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by spearing24:

    You have to be kidding me.  You are a fool if you are going to lay down huge money on Colorado this weekend.

    You might get lucky, but that is not a smart bet.

    This Colorado Offensive line may be big, but they are terrible! Nate Solder, a Playboy preseason all american got schooled not only against CAL, but multiple times against Orakpo, a much smaller guy on Colorado State.

    CU's special teams in attrocious.  We are calling for fair catches on our 5 yeard line, missing field goals, and booting 35 yard punts like they are going out of style.

    Dan Hawkins is the worst game day coach in all of FBS and people are calling for his head, and have been since last November.

    Hawaii will put at least 35 points on the board against our Defense.  Not necessarily because our D is that bad, but because our offense will give them incredibile field position (ie...see what happened against CAL).

    Tyler Hansen is an awful QB and is no better than Cody Hawkins.  He threw INT after INT on Saturday and missed open recievers all day long.

    I implore you to not waste your money.  Either take Hawaii or the over.

    Was at the Cal game too!  CU looked really, really, really bad.  UC Davis could have beat these guys.  Hawaii is the right play here. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by spearing24:

    You have to be kidding me.  You are a fool if you are going to lay down huge money on Colorado this weekend.

    You might get lucky, but that is not a smart bet.

    This Colorado Offensive line may be big, but they are terrible! Nate Solder, a Playboy preseason all american got schooled not only against CAL, but multiple times against Orakpo, a much smaller guy on Colorado State.

    CU's special teams in attrocious.  We are calling for fair catches on our 5 yeard line, missing field goals, and booting 35 yard punts like they are going out of style.

    Dan Hawkins is the worst game day coach in all of FBS and people are calling for his head, and have been since last November.

    Hawaii will put at least 35 points on the board against our Defense.  Not necessarily because our D is that bad, but because our offense will give them incredibile field position (ie...see what happened against CAL).

    Tyler Hansen is an awful QB and is no better than Cody Hawkins.  He threw INT after INT on Saturday and missed open recievers all day long.

    I implore you to not waste your money.  Either take Hawaii or the over.

    Was at the Cal game too!  CU looked really, really, really bad.  UC Davis could have beat these guys.  Hawaii is the right play here. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 4:25 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by ctoy76:

    Was at the Cal game too!  CU looked really, really, really bad.  UC Davis could have beat these guys.  Hawaii is the right play here. 



    i could not disagree more strongly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctoy76:

    Was at the Cal game too!  CU looked really, really, really bad.  UC Davis could have beat these guys.  Hawaii is the right play here. 



    i could not disagree more strongly!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 4:31 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:



    i could not disagree more strongly!

    Everyone is entitled to their opinons I guess.  Good luck with your CU bet. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:



    i could not disagree more strongly!

    Everyone is entitled to their opinons I guess.  Good luck with your CU bet. 

     
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    First off Usc is not that good, they barley beat UofV who is considered the doormat of the ACC conf.   VS hawaii they let up a ton of pts granted Hawaii has some nice wr.  So USC is not a team to judge other teams by.  Armies DL was getting a ton of pressure on the H qb with only a 4 man rush.  People made a big deal about the long flight to NY, I bet H last week and even though they were by far the more talented team in that match up they should of prob lost if not for a fumble in the final 40 secs.  This is the 2nd of back to back away games vs a team that just got a major ass kicking.  Teams never are as bad or as good as they look the week before, you will all see this in the nfl as the jets will prob beat the ne patriots this week to. I got a good line -10 and I'm happy with it, I believe the odds makers are making this so sweet to take Hawaii because they know this will be a blowout,  the line is going up now to 11 and 12 it makes it even better to take hawaii, so if you like hawaii wait some more you will get more pts, your gonna need at least 20.
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    First off Usc is not that good, they barley beat UofV who is considered the doormat of the ACC conf.   VS hawaii they let up a ton of pts granted Hawaii has some nice wr.  So USC is not a team to judge other teams by.  Armies DL was getting a ton of pressure on the H qb with only a 4 man rush.  People made a big deal about the long flight to NY, I bet H last week and even though they were by far the more talented team in that match up they should of prob lost if not for a fumble in the final 40 secs.  This is the 2nd of back to back away games vs a team that just got a major ass kicking.  Teams never are as bad or as good as they look the week before, you will all see this in the nfl as the jets will prob beat the ne patriots this week to. I got a good line -10 and I'm happy with it, I believe the odds makers are making this so sweet to take Hawaii because they know this will be a blowout,  the line is going up now to 11 and 12 it makes it even better to take hawaii, so if you like hawaii wait some more you will get more pts, your gonna need at least 20.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyPunch6446:

    Another thing about Hawaii staying in Vegas, it may not be as bad as it seems since Vegas is called the 8th island of Hawaii( get plenty of us islanders that live in vegas). Quite a few players have family that live in Vegas so there stay there feels very comfortable imo.

     

    Ho braddah, vegas is called the 9th island!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyPunch6446:

    Another thing about Hawaii staying in Vegas, it may not be as bad as it seems since Vegas is called the 8th island of Hawaii( get plenty of us islanders that live in vegas). Quite a few players have family that live in Vegas so there stay there feels very comfortable imo.

     

    Ho braddah, vegas is called the 9th island!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 5:39 PM ET #41

    8th island 9th island its a colorado blowout.
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    8th island 9th island its a colorado blowout.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 7:44 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by roscoepekotrain:

    First off Usc is not that good, they barley beat UofV who is considered the doormat of the ACC conf.   VS hawaii they let up a ton of pts granted Hawaii has some nice wr.  So USC is not a team to judge other teams by.  Armies DL was getting a ton of pressure on the H qb with only a 4 man rush.  People made a big deal about the long flight to NY, I bet H last week and even though they were by far the more talented team in that match up they should of prob lost if not for a fumble in the final 40 secs.  This is the 2nd of back to back away games vs a team that just got a major ass kicking.  Teams never are as bad or as good as they look the week before, you will all see this in the nfl as the jets will prob beat the ne patriots this week to. I got a good line -10 and I'm happy with it, I believe the odds makers are making this so sweet to take Hawaii because they know this will be a blowout,  the line is going up now to 11 and 12 it makes it even better to take hawaii, so if you like hawaii wait some more you will get more pts, your gonna need at least 20.

    the NFL is WAY different from NCAAF! of course in the NFL your gonnah have teams that look horrible one week than suprise people the nex week, my example is the Cowboys, they had horrible play calling and Barron has to be the worst OL ive ever seen, but i bet theyll pound Chicago this week Colts got schooled by the Texans, Bob is out again but i bet the smash the Giants.. its what they get paid to do, its their job to make the adjustments week in week out..if a team in college is crap, then their crap! Colorado has been bad for the past 2 years now, and Hawkins will finally get fired after they have another losing season this year..he is a terrible coach..Hawaii will move the ball with ease vs this slow Buff D as long as they dont turn the ball over they will score on almost every drive Colorado does not have the talent or speed on offense to go into a shootout type of game..granted they are playing one of the worst Ds in the nation and Hawaii has no clue on how to tackle people but i do think they keep everything in front of them n dont give up any big plays..Colorado has no deep threat Tyler Hansen is worst then Hawkins son (Cody) at qb he orede has 4ints in 2 games S McKnight and Stewart are the only play makers for the Buffs and i think Hawaii will be able to contain the 2..Buffs prolly win this game but it will NOT be a blowout, the only way their gonnah win is if they run the ball right down Hawaiis throat cuz they cant stop the run..and if thats gonnah be their gameplan than thats a lot of time theyll be takin off the clock and what if they end up punting after long drives?! Hawaii scores quick..Buffs have another long drive ends in another punt Hawaii scores again, now you have to rely on Hansen to come back from a deficit?! MY MONEYS ON HAWAII not sayin theyll win the game out right but theyll keep it close..i wish their was a way we could make a wager, cuz if youd give me +20 id ROTFL 

    regardless we both have our own opinions best of luck on your play GL

    ohh and Nevada jus smashed Colorado St (Colorados 1 win) last week 51-6 and i expect Hawaii to beat the Wolfpack this year in a shootout and if Hawaii beats Colorado on Sat then i expect them to go undefeated until they meet Boise..im jus saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoepekotrain:

    First off Usc is not that good, they barley beat UofV who is considered the doormat of the ACC conf.   VS hawaii they let up a ton of pts granted Hawaii has some nice wr.  So USC is not a team to judge other teams by.  Armies DL was getting a ton of pressure on the H qb with only a 4 man rush.  People made a big deal about the long flight to NY, I bet H last week and even though they were by far the more talented team in that match up they should of prob lost if not for a fumble in the final 40 secs.  This is the 2nd of back to back away games vs a team that just got a major ass kicking.  Teams never are as bad or as good as they look the week before, you will all see this in the nfl as the jets will prob beat the ne patriots this week to. I got a good line -10 and I'm happy with it, I believe the odds makers are making this so sweet to take Hawaii because they know this will be a blowout,  the line is going up now to 11 and 12 it makes it even better to take hawaii, so if you like hawaii wait some more you will get more pts, your gonna need at least 20.

    the NFL is WAY different from NCAAF! of course in the NFL your gonnah have teams that look horrible one week than suprise people the nex week, my example is the Cowboys, they had horrible play calling and Barron has to be the worst OL ive ever seen, but i bet theyll pound Chicago this week Colts got schooled by the Texans, Bob is out again but i bet the smash the Giants.. its what they get paid to do, its their job to make the adjustments week in week out..if a team in college is crap, then their crap! Colorado has been bad for the past 2 years now, and Hawkins will finally get fired after they have another losing season this year..he is a terrible coach..Hawaii will move the ball with ease vs this slow Buff D as long as they dont turn the ball over they will score on almost every drive Colorado does not have the talent or speed on offense to go into a shootout type of game..granted they are playing one of the worst Ds in the nation and Hawaii has no clue on how to tackle people but i do think they keep everything in front of them n dont give up any big plays..Colorado has no deep threat Tyler Hansen is worst then Hawkins son (Cody) at qb he orede has 4ints in 2 games S McKnight and Stewart are the only play makers for the Buffs and i think Hawaii will be able to contain the 2..Buffs prolly win this game but it will NOT be a blowout, the only way their gonnah win is if they run the ball right down Hawaiis throat cuz they cant stop the run..and if thats gonnah be their gameplan than thats a lot of time theyll be takin off the clock and what if they end up punting after long drives?! Hawaii scores quick..Buffs have another long drive ends in another punt Hawaii scores again, now you have to rely on Hansen to come back from a deficit?! MY MONEYS ON HAWAII not sayin theyll win the game out right but theyll keep it close..i wish their was a way we could make a wager, cuz if youd give me +20 id ROTFL 

    regardless we both have our own opinions best of luck on your play GL

    ohh and Nevada jus smashed Colorado St (Colorados 1 win) last week 51-6 and i expect Hawaii to beat the Wolfpack this year in a shootout and if Hawaii beats Colorado on Sat then i expect them to go undefeated until they meet Boise..im jus saying

    HAWAII +11 my bets in

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 7:49 PM ET #43

    They just posted the total in this game. It's 54.5. I think this going to go way over the total. The rainbows have a talented QB and they can't stop the run.

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    They just posted the total in this game. It's 54.5. I think this going to go way over the total. The rainbows have a talented QB and they can't stop the run.

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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 7:50 PM ET #44

    another reason Colorado has Georgia on deck next week..possibly looking past Hawaii
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 7:57 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by roscoepekotrain:

    I really think this is the real bad spot for Hawaii, although they had superiority over Army for most of the game they almost found a way to lose, now this is the 2nd of back to back road games for them, this time they won't get fortunate at the end, Colorado is coming off a blowout defeat and will get back on track vs the rainblows.  The one thing Army did do good last week was get pressure on the qb with there down lineman.  One would have to think that the Buffalos DL is just as good if not better than Armies. I see a lot of Hawaii mistakes in this game and they don't have superior talant in this game to overcome them like they did vs Army.

    Colorado -10, line may drop to -9.5 so I am waiting, looks like Hawaii is the public side which is awsome.  This will be a big bet for me. GL


    Big one for me too Roscoe.........I like your angle here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoepekotrain:

    I really think this is the real bad spot for Hawaii, although they had superiority over Army for most of the game they almost found a way to lose, now this is the 2nd of back to back road games for them, this time they won't get fortunate at the end, Colorado is coming off a blowout defeat and will get back on track vs the rainblows.  The one thing Army did do good last week was get pressure on the qb with there down lineman.  One would have to think that the Buffalos DL is just as good if not better than Armies. I see a lot of Hawaii mistakes in this game and they don't have superior talant in this game to overcome them like they did vs Army.

    Colorado -10, line may drop to -9.5 so I am waiting, looks like Hawaii is the public side which is awsome.  This will be a big bet for me. GL


    Big one for me too Roscoe.........I like your angle here.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 8:49 PM ET #46

    bol RoscoeP. Take good care of ole Flash now.

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    bol RoscoeP. Take good care of ole Flash now.

    I miss ol Sheppard  and lost sheep.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 8:54 PM ET #47

    Line seems crazy and makes me want to look at CU harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by CELTiC5:

    another reason Colorado has Georgia on deck next week..possibly looking past Hawaii

    uuhh...cu has a bye week after this game, then uga....this is cu's home opener (first game was neutral field) this line is way overblown based on the debacle last week at cal....but this is a classic hawaii flat spot on the 2nd leg of an away trip from the island...hawkins is coaching for his job starting here....also don't forget the possible timing issues...this will be the rainbows first game on grass!

    buffs focused here...and the line is a classic trap sucker bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CELTiC5:

    another reason Colorado has Georgia on deck next week..possibly looking past Hawaii

    uuhh...cu has a bye week after this game, then uga....this is cu's home opener (first game was neutral field) this line is way overblown based on the debacle last week at cal....but this is a classic hawaii flat spot on the 2nd leg of an away trip from the island...hawkins is coaching for his job starting here....also don't forget the possible timing issues...this will be the rainbows first game on grass!

    buffs focused here...and the line is a classic trap sucker bet.

    CU -10

     

     
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    Gmanusc u get it,,u win..Colorado baby.
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    Gmanusc u get it,,u win..Colorado baby.
     
     
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