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    Florida, next national champs?

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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 5:57 PM ET #26

    Florida winning the NC is a joke... Come on guys. Seriously


    My goodness...

    They couldn't score if the defense put 8 guys on the field.

    This Florida team is going nowhere until they get this offense figured out....and it aint this year
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    Florida winning the NC is a joke... Come on guys. Seriously


    My goodness...

    They couldn't score if the defense put 8 guys on the field.

    This Florida team is going nowhere until they get this offense figured out....and it aint this year
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 6:12 PM ET #27

    I agree, Boom. I believe they will lose at least two games, and two losses puts them OUT of the national title game. Period.

    I think they will lose to either Miami or FSU (or both), and lose at least one and probably two in the SEC.

    It's an ok bet if you like lotto, that's it.

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    I agree, Boom. I believe they will lose at least two games, and two losses puts them OUT of the national title game. Period.

    I think they will lose to either Miami or FSU (or both), and lose at least one and probably two in the SEC.

    It's an ok bet if you like lotto, that's it.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 6:19 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    Florida winning the NC is a joke... Come on guys. Seriously


    My goodness...

    They couldn't score if the defense put 8 guys on the field.

    This Florida team is going nowhere until they get this offense figured out....and it aint this year

    What research have you done to find out about the offense for this year? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    Florida winning the NC is a joke... Come on guys. Seriously


    My goodness...

    They couldn't score if the defense put 8 guys on the field.

    This Florida team is going nowhere until they get this offense figured out....and it aint this year

    What research have you done to find out about the offense for this year? 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 6:20 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    I agree, Boom. I believe they will lose at least two games, and two losses puts them OUT of the national title game. Period.

    I think they will lose to either Miami or FSU (or both), and lose at least one and probably two in the SEC.

    It's an ok bet if you like lotto, that's it.


    Ill lay any number anyone wants to lay that they don't lose to both. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    I agree, Boom. I believe they will lose at least two games, and two losses puts them OUT of the national title game. Period.

    I think they will lose to either Miami or FSU (or both), and lose at least one and probably two in the SEC.

    It's an ok bet if you like lotto, that's it.


    Ill lay any number anyone wants to lay that they don't lose to both. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 6:47 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Ill lay any number anyone wants to lay that they don't lose to both. 

    Ok, 10-1. Lets bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Ill lay any number anyone wants to lay that they don't lose to both. 

    Ok, 10-1. Lets bet.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 7:16 PM ET #31

    QUOTE Originally Posted by ET4AUBURN1982:

    Sabanade I totally agree and do see them losing to miami

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    lol anyone want to bet that game straight up?
     
    Yes. I'll do better than that. I'll take Florida - 2 1/2 against Miami for up to $25000 (my one game limit)
    That means 25 of you will be able to bet $1000 to win or lose $1000.
    PM me. 
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    QUOTE Originally Posted by ET4AUBURN1982:

    Sabanade I totally agree and do see them losing to miami

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    lol anyone want to bet that game straight up?
     
    Yes. I'll do better than that. I'll take Florida - 2 1/2 against Miami for up to $25000 (my one game limit)
    That means 25 of you will be able to bet $1000 to win or lose $1000.
    PM me. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:19 PM ET #32


    Hahaha.  While I admit uf has some questi.  marks, so does every other team of twenty year olds before kick off.

    Clown haters don't realize that uf was only one fumbled goal line dive from going undefeated last year even with the poor offensive play. Some people just don't understand elite championship type football.

    The odds on the wager make it a good value.  
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    Hahaha.  While I admit uf has some questi.  marks, so does every other team of twenty year olds before kick off.

    Clown haters don't realize that uf was only one fumbled goal line dive from going undefeated last year even with the poor offensive play. Some people just don't understand elite championship type football.

    The odds on the wager make it a good value.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:21 PM ET #33

    And none of the talkers will bet Miami with anyone for any real cash.

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    And none of the talkers will bet Miami with anyone for any real cash.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:24 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    I agree, Boom. I believe they will lose at least two games, and two losses puts them OUT of the national title game. Period.

    I think they will lose to either Miami or FSU (or both), and lose at least one and probably two in the SEC.

    It's an ok bet if you like lotto, that's it.



    Florida has a very difficult schedule, so they could very well lose two games.  As I said, their season essentially boils down to 3 scare games: @ LSU, @ South Carolina and Florida State.  They could certainly lose two of those.  In fact I could see a scenario where they may lose 3 games.

    They could lose two games, win the SEC East, and then lose the SEC Championship game.

    Of course Florida is a long shot to the national championship game.  Aside form Alabama, it's an extremely long shot for anyone to win the BCS Championship.  What team has a better shot than Florida???  The only other teams I could see giving Alabama any trouble whatsoever in a BCS Championship Game is maybe Florida State or Clemson, and I really don't think either of them would beat Alabama this season.  Unlike almost every other team in the college football, Florida can actually line up and play with Alabama.

    I think Florida has virtually no shot of winning the BCS Championship, which is exactly why I won't make that bet.  But because Florida has the combination
    of coaching and overall talent, they represent the country's best hope of preventing an Alabama 3-peat IMO.  So if I were going to bet on a long shot (something I never really do because I don't think it's wise), Florida would get my money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    I agree, Boom. I believe they will lose at least two games, and two losses puts them OUT of the national title game. Period.

    I think they will lose to either Miami or FSU (or both), and lose at least one and probably two in the SEC.

    It's an ok bet if you like lotto, that's it.



    Florida has a very difficult schedule, so they could very well lose two games.  As I said, their season essentially boils down to 3 scare games: @ LSU, @ South Carolina and Florida State.  They could certainly lose two of those.  In fact I could see a scenario where they may lose 3 games.

    They could lose two games, win the SEC East, and then lose the SEC Championship game.

    Of course Florida is a long shot to the national championship game.  Aside form Alabama, it's an extremely long shot for anyone to win the BCS Championship.  What team has a better shot than Florida???  The only other teams I could see giving Alabama any trouble whatsoever in a BCS Championship Game is maybe Florida State or Clemson, and I really don't think either of them would beat Alabama this season.  Unlike almost every other team in the college football, Florida can actually line up and play with Alabama.

    I think Florida has virtually no shot of winning the BCS Championship, which is exactly why I won't make that bet.  But because Florida has the combination
    of coaching and overall talent, they represent the country's best hope of preventing an Alabama 3-peat IMO.  So if I were going to bet on a long shot (something I never really do because I don't think it's wise), Florida would get my money.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:36 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Ill lay any number anyone wants to lay that they don't lose to both. 


    I'm very bullish on Miami this season, and the Florida game is their Super Bowl.  It's the game they need to win to elevate their program back to national prominence in the eyes of the nation and Florida recruits.  They need this win to retain the Amari Coopers of South Florida, so I expect them to play with great effort and hang tough for a while.  At the end of the day however, Miami is simply not ready to compete with Florida at the point of attack on either side of the ball.  Florida should win the game by DD.

    That said, if you really like Miami, bet them in the first half.  That is a bet I could definitely see cashing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Ill lay any number anyone wants to lay that they don't lose to both. 


    I'm very bullish on Miami this season, and the Florida game is their Super Bowl.  It's the game they need to win to elevate their program back to national prominence in the eyes of the nation and Florida recruits.  They need this win to retain the Amari Coopers of South Florida, so I expect them to play with great effort and hang tough for a while.  At the end of the day however, Miami is simply not ready to compete with Florida at the point of attack on either side of the ball.  Florida should win the game by DD.

    That said, if you really like Miami, bet them in the first half.  That is a bet I could definitely see cashing.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:49 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    What research have you done to find out about the offense for this year? 


    Before I answer the question... I want to know if you are saying that they will have a good offense...

    I know what the offense has... I want to hear what you are gonna say first
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    What research have you done to find out about the offense for this year? 


    Before I answer the question... I want to know if you are saying that they will have a good offense...

    I know what the offense has... I want to hear what you are gonna say first
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 8:51 PM ET #37

    as far as the Miami goes.... Miami will have a very explosive offense.

    But that defense might be the problem as it was last season.... Cant really say if they have improved much...I would say no tho
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    as far as the Miami goes.... Miami will have a very explosive offense.

    But that defense might be the problem as it was last season.... Cant really say if they have improved much...I would say no tho
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 9:22 PM ET #38


    We think of it this way. 

    I think we can all agree it's SEC champ vs somebody for all the marbles. Right? 

    So in SEC champ game - We can probably all agree that it will be Florida or S Carolina or Georgia out of the east. Right? Assuming its 1/3 1/3 1/3 shot for each of those 3 teams  30-1 is great value. Just make the SEC Champ game and you can hedge and lock in a profit. Simple. 

    It's not always what retard would think Florida can win it all - its am I getting paid to take the risk. 30-1 seems more than fair if you like them to win the East. You can make coin if they just beat out SC and the worst team ever Georgia with that horrible QB. 
     And imagine if Bama ain't there?

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    We think of it this way. 

    I think we can all agree it's SEC champ vs somebody for all the marbles. Right? 

    So in SEC champ game - We can probably all agree that it will be Florida or S Carolina or Georgia out of the east. Right? Assuming its 1/3 1/3 1/3 shot for each of those 3 teams  30-1 is great value. Just make the SEC Champ game and you can hedge and lock in a profit. Simple. 

    It's not always what retard would think Florida can win it all - its am I getting paid to take the risk. 30-1 seems more than fair if you like them to win the East. You can make coin if they just beat out SC and the worst team ever Georgia with that horrible QB. 
     And imagine if Bama ain't there?

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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 9:22 PM ET #39

    I'm just answering the point of the original post 
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    I'm just answering the point of the original post 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 9:28 PM ET #40

    i got 25-1 ! go gatorrrssssss
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    i got 25-1 ! go gatorrrssssss
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 9:52 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    I'm very bullish on Miami this season, and the Florida game is their Super Bowl.  It's the game they need to win to elevate their program back to national prominence in the eyes of the nation and Florida recruits.  They need this win to retain the Amari Coopers of South Florida, so I expect them to play with great effort and hang tough for a while.  At the end of the day however, Miami is simply not ready to compete with Florida at the point of attack on either side of the ball.  Florida should win the game by DD.

    That said, if you really like Miami, bet them in the first half.  That is a bet I could definitely see cashing.


     

    Yes!

    Florida often played better in the second half in their big tough games like against Texas A&M and FSU last year. They almost beat Georgia (who almost beat Alabama in the SEC championship game) in the second half, but their best receiver (tight end Jordan Reed) dropped a perfect pass at the goal line.

    Florida came within a dropped easy pass of playing in the SEC championship last year, where they might have beat Alabama to play an over-rated Notre Dame team for the NC.

    And this with an admittedly terrible offense. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    I'm very bullish on Miami this season, and the Florida game is their Super Bowl.  It's the game they need to win to elevate their program back to national prominence in the eyes of the nation and Florida recruits.  They need this win to retain the Amari Coopers of South Florida, so I expect them to play with great effort and hang tough for a while.  At the end of the day however, Miami is simply not ready to compete with Florida at the point of attack on either side of the ball.  Florida should win the game by DD.

    That said, if you really like Miami, bet them in the first half.  That is a bet I could definitely see cashing.


     

    Yes!

    Florida often played better in the second half in their big tough games like against Texas A&M and FSU last year. They almost beat Georgia (who almost beat Alabama in the SEC championship game) in the second half, but their best receiver (tight end Jordan Reed) dropped a perfect pass at the goal line.

    Florida came within a dropped easy pass of playing in the SEC championship last year, where they might have beat Alabama to play an over-rated Notre Dame team for the NC.

    And this with an admittedly terrible offense. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:30 PM ET #42

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    Before I answer the question... I want to know if you are saying that they will have a good offense...

    I know what the offense has... I want to hear what you are gonna say first

    This is like one of those "I know the answer but I want you to tell me first things".. If you have seen what playmakers UF has added in the passing game as targets you would understand more.. The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious.
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    Before I answer the question... I want to know if you are saying that they will have a good offense...

    I know what the offense has... I want to hear what you are gonna say first

    This is like one of those "I know the answer but I want you to tell me first things".. If you have seen what playmakers UF has added in the passing game as targets you would understand more.. The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:45 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by MEGALOCKS:


    We think of it this way. 

    I think we can all agree it's SEC champ vs somebody for all the marbles. Right? 

    So in SEC champ game - We can probably all agree that it will be Florida or S Carolina or Georgia out of the east. Right? Assuming its 1/3 1/3 1/3 shot for each of those 3 teams  30-1 is great value. Just make the SEC Champ game and you can hedge and lock in a profit. Simple. 

    It's not always what retard would think Florida can win it all - its am I getting paid to take the risk. 30-1 seems more than fair if you like them to win the East. You can make coin if they just beat out SC and the worst team ever Georgia with that horrible QB. 
     And imagine if Bama ain't there?

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    I don't dare disagree with Hot Carl. 

    Going into this season, when I take into account all of the Alabama variables, talent, coaching, schedule, etc., this is the most confident I have ever been that no one will beat Alabama this season.  But hey, things rarely go as planned.  What if Auburn knocks out AJ McCarron with a season-ending injury in the last game of the regular season, and Alabama has to play Florida or South Carolina with a backup QB???  Something like that could change everything.

    Another way to go about it is to take the opposite approach and bet on a non-SEC team.  That's the approach most people seem to take.  I don't favor that approach because I have very little confidence that a non-SEC team can beat the SEC Champion.  Therefore, if one was inclined to make an educated guess, I would recommend they bet the team that they think will win the SEC East.  IMO the East will come down to the winner of the Florida @ South Carolina game on November 16th.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGALOCKS:


    We think of it this way. 

    I think we can all agree it's SEC champ vs somebody for all the marbles. Right? 

    So in SEC champ game - We can probably all agree that it will be Florida or S Carolina or Georgia out of the east. Right? Assuming its 1/3 1/3 1/3 shot for each of those 3 teams  30-1 is great value. Just make the SEC Champ game and you can hedge and lock in a profit. Simple. 

    It's not always what retard would think Florida can win it all - its am I getting paid to take the risk. 30-1 seems more than fair if you like them to win the East. You can make coin if they just beat out SC and the worst team ever Georgia with that horrible QB. 
     And imagine if Bama ain't there?

    Mega


    I don't dare disagree with Hot Carl. 

    Going into this season, when I take into account all of the Alabama variables, talent, coaching, schedule, etc., this is the most confident I have ever been that no one will beat Alabama this season.  But hey, things rarely go as planned.  What if Auburn knocks out AJ McCarron with a season-ending injury in the last game of the regular season, and Alabama has to play Florida or South Carolina with a backup QB???  Something like that could change everything.

    Another way to go about it is to take the opposite approach and bet on a non-SEC team.  That's the approach most people seem to take.  I don't favor that approach because I have very little confidence that a non-SEC team can beat the SEC Champion.  Therefore, if one was inclined to make an educated guess, I would recommend they bet the team that they think will win the SEC East.  IMO the East will come down to the winner of the Florida @ South Carolina game on November 16th.



     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 10:53 PM ET #44

    Exactly. 

    Smartest bet for longshot is an SEC East team. IF you get that winner you are two games away. 

    Anyone else is a guess IMO. 
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    Exactly. 

    Smartest bet for longshot is an SEC East team. IF you get that winner you are two games away. 

    Anyone else is a guess IMO. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 11:13 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by MEGALOCKS:

    Exactly. 

    Smartest bet for longshot is an SEC East team. IF you get that winner you are two games away. 

    Anyone else is a guess IMO. 


    Agree 100%


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    Exactly. 

    Smartest bet for longshot is an SEC East team. IF you get that winner you are two games away. 

    Anyone else is a guess IMO. 


    Agree 100%


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2013 - 11:16 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    I don't dare disagree with Hot Carl. 

    Going into this season, when I take into account all of the Alabama variables, talent, coaching, schedule, etc., this is the most confident I have ever been that no one will beat Alabama this season.  But hey, things rarely go as planned.  What if Auburn knocks out AJ McCarron with a season-ending injury in the last game of the regular season, and Alabama has to play Florida or South Carolina with a backup QB???  Something like that could change everything.

    Another way to go about it is to take the opposite approach and bet on a non-SEC team.  That's the approach most people seem to take.  I don't favor that approach because I have very little confidence that a non-SEC team can beat the SEC Champion.  Therefore, if one was inclined to make an educated guess, I would recommend they bet the team that they think will win the SEC East.  IMO the East will come down to the winner of the Florida @ South Carolina game on November 16th.





    For clarification purposes, I need to add the words "this season" to the italicized text above.


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    I don't dare disagree with Hot Carl. 

    Going into this season, when I take into account all of the Alabama variables, talent, coaching, schedule, etc., this is the most confident I have ever been that no one will beat Alabama this season.  But hey, things rarely go as planned.  What if Auburn knocks out AJ McCarron with a season-ending injury in the last game of the regular season, and Alabama has to play Florida or South Carolina with a backup QB???  Something like that could change everything.

    Another way to go about it is to take the opposite approach and bet on a non-SEC team.  That's the approach most people seem to take.  I don't favor that approach because I have very little confidence that a non-SEC team can beat the SEC Champion.  Therefore, if one was inclined to make an educated guess, I would recommend they bet the team that they think will win the SEC East.  IMO the East will come down to the winner of the Florida @ South Carolina game on November 16th.





    For clarification purposes, I need to add the words "this season" to the italicized text above.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 6:00 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    This is like one of those "I know the answer but I want you to tell me first things".. If you have seen what playmakers UF has added in the passing game as targets you would understand more.. The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious.
    I know who they added smartasss....

    The demarcus Robinson kid is really good....We almost had him. Was actually committed to us at one point.

    The RB position might be ok....Taylor will be good in time.

    The OL is OK at best.

    The QB is horrible....


    But as I said.... i know the answer,  You answer it I want to hear you say it. But you won't You beat around the bush



    The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious......

    yeah, it will be. and the joke is on you if you believe otherwise
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    This is like one of those "I know the answer but I want you to tell me first things".. If you have seen what playmakers UF has added in the passing game as targets you would understand more.. The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious.
    I know who they added smartasss....

    The demarcus Robinson kid is really good....We almost had him. Was actually committed to us at one point.

    The RB position might be ok....Taylor will be good in time.

    The OL is OK at best.

    The QB is horrible....


    But as I said.... i know the answer,  You answer it I want to hear you say it. But you won't You beat around the bush



    The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious......

    yeah, it will be. and the joke is on you if you believe otherwise
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 3:48 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    I know who they added smartasss....

    The demarcus Robinson kid is really good....We almost had him. Was actually committed to us at one point.

    The RB position might be ok....Taylor will be good in time.

    The OL is OK at best.

    The QB is horrible....


    But as I said.... i know the answer,  You answer it I want to hear you say it. But you won't You beat around the bush



    The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious......

    yeah, it will be. and the joke is on you if you believe otherwise

    Good lord, Florida has obviously damaged you deeply if you believe that for a second. You are hoping for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    I know who they added smartasss....

    The demarcus Robinson kid is really good....We almost had him. Was actually committed to us at one point.

    The RB position might be ok....Taylor will be good in time.

    The OL is OK at best.

    The QB is horrible....


    But as I said.... i know the answer,  You answer it I want to hear you say it. But you won't You beat around the bush



    The fact that you just expect the passing game to be as bad is just simply, hilarious......

    yeah, it will be. and the joke is on you if you believe otherwise

    Good lord, Florida has obviously damaged you deeply if you believe that for a second. You are hoping for it
     
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    Think Florida's offense will be better than last years but by a marginal amount. They will look like a middle of the pack FBS team offensively but likely be in the top 3 defensively. The grit,coaching and athleticism will carry this team to a minimum 9 wins. One prediction site (Payne ratings) has Florida at 8.19 wins and 3.81 losses but I think it goes over this prediction.


    It could easily come down to Alabama being the only team in FL's way on the road to the NCG but all the scheduling roadblocks are a huge concern.

    In case anyone is interested the site also predicts a 29% chance Alabama goes undefeated and 28.5% chance Oregon goes undefeated.
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    Think Florida's offense will be better than last years but by a marginal amount. They will look like a middle of the pack FBS team offensively but likely be in the top 3 defensively. The grit,coaching and athleticism will carry this team to a minimum 9 wins. One prediction site (Payne ratings) has Florida at 8.19 wins and 3.81 losses but I think it goes over this prediction.


    It could easily come down to Alabama being the only team in FL's way on the road to the NCG but all the scheduling roadblocks are a huge concern.

    In case anyone is interested the site also predicts a 29% chance Alabama goes undefeated and 28.5% chance Oregon goes undefeated.
     
     
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    9-3 florida gators reg season record 2013.

    thread closed.

    let's move on to other things.
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