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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2009 - 9:55 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by trackem:

    jimmy/game,

    if AU stopped 22/3, what makes you think UF can't? Or you think Old Greg will win the game?

    Trackem, you make the classic mistake in gambling of assuming that because something happened in one game it will necessarily happen in the next game.  What happened in the Auburn game has nothing to do with this game.  Every game has a different game plan.  I have no clue how Florida's defense will choose to attack Bama's offense, but I seriously doubt the Gators will use Spikes to spy on Ingram all over the field like Auburn did.

    Bama moved the ball effectively against Florida last year, and they are more talented (almost) across the board on that side of the ball this year.  Florida has a tremendous defense.  I doubt anyone would argue with that.  Be that as it may, I'm confident Bama can score in the 20s like they did last year, and the 20s will probably be good enough to win this game.

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    jimmy/game,

    if AU stopped 22/3, what makes you think UF can't? Or you think Old Greg will win the game?

    Trackem, you make the classic mistake in gambling of assuming that because something happened in one game it will necessarily happen in the next game.  What happened in the Auburn game has nothing to do with this game.  Every game has a different game plan.  I have no clue how Florida's defense will choose to attack Bama's offense, but I seriously doubt the Gators will use Spikes to spy on Ingram all over the field like Auburn did.

    Bama moved the ball effectively against Florida last year, and they are more talented (almost) across the board on that side of the ball this year.  Florida has a tremendous defense.  I doubt anyone would argue with that.  Be that as it may, I'm confident Bama can score in the 20s like they did last year, and the 20s will probably be good enough to win this game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2009 - 9:57 PM ET #52

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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2009 - 10:06 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by gamehenger:

    i hope you are right jimmy! you are definitely making me feel better about it...

    trackem,

    if you noticed on friday, bama never threw the ball down field. i dont know if it was all on mcelroy or mcelwain (OC).  maybe a bit of both... regardless, not stretching aubbies defense in that game allowed for auburn to stack 9 and 10 in the box most of the game.  they also had one of their linebackers spying ingram... but the lack of downfield passing was the main reason for auburn's success in my opinion.  i think you will see bama this saturday air it out. we will leave it all out on the field. i think we will hit a few big passes early and it will open bama's running attack...

    Gamehenger, you are correct.  I can tell you that Bama tried to stay as vanilla as possible in the Auburn game.  McElwain did adjust a little by sending Ingram wide (which opened the middle of the field), and then exploited that area of the field.  That's one reason they didn't go down field much.

    Florida is an exceptional team in every phase of the game.  I won't argue that point.  However, many people will bet on Florida based on the results of last week's games, and that is a very big mistake IMHO.

    I will also tell you that Bama has saved a number of offensive wrinkles specifically for this game.  Expect to be surprised.

    Saban will have this team extremely well prepared for this game, and I am extremely confident they'll win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamehenger:

    i hope you are right jimmy! you are definitely making me feel better about it...

    trackem,

    if you noticed on friday, bama never threw the ball down field. i dont know if it was all on mcelroy or mcelwain (OC).  maybe a bit of both... regardless, not stretching aubbies defense in that game allowed for auburn to stack 9 and 10 in the box most of the game.  they also had one of their linebackers spying ingram... but the lack of downfield passing was the main reason for auburn's success in my opinion.  i think you will see bama this saturday air it out. we will leave it all out on the field. i think we will hit a few big passes early and it will open bama's running attack...

    Gamehenger, you are correct.  I can tell you that Bama tried to stay as vanilla as possible in the Auburn game.  McElwain did adjust a little by sending Ingram wide (which opened the middle of the field), and then exploited that area of the field.  That's one reason they didn't go down field much.

    Florida is an exceptional team in every phase of the game.  I won't argue that point.  However, many people will bet on Florida based on the results of last week's games, and that is a very big mistake IMHO.

    I will also tell you that Bama has saved a number of offensive wrinkles specifically for this game.  Expect to be surprised.

    Saban will have this team extremely well prepared for this game, and I am extremely confident they'll win.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2009 - 10:27 PM ET #54

    Bookies love extreme confidence as well !
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    Bookies love extreme confidence as well !
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 11:53 AM ET #55

    uh oh... carlos dunlap arrested for dui @ 3:25 am this morning...

    you think meyer will suspend him? probably for only a quarter.  dunlap has 35 tackels and is tied for the team lead in sacks, with 7.


    dunlap makes the 25th player arrested during meyer's tenure.
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    uh oh... carlos dunlap arrested for dui @ 3:25 am this morning...

    you think meyer will suspend him? probably for only a quarter.  dunlap has 35 tackels and is tied for the team lead in sacks, with 7.


    dunlap makes the 25th player arrested during meyer's tenure.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:22 PM ET #56

    yeah wont get nearly as much as he deserves, just like Spikes. Spoiled college athletes.

    Ive been saying Bama all year long. Ive been waiting for Florida to loose all season. Their offense just doesn't have the power it had in the past.

    Your exactly right Jimmy and game no one seems to be looking at this game the right way!

    Roll Tide Roll.


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    yeah wont get nearly as much as he deserves, just like Spikes. Spoiled college athletes.

    Ive been saying Bama all year long. Ive been waiting for Florida to loose all season. Their offense just doesn't have the power it had in the past.

    Your exactly right Jimmy and game no one seems to be looking at this game the right way!

    Roll Tide Roll.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:22 PM ET #57

    jimmy and game,

    I know AU had Bynes spying Ingram the whole game. Auburn had to choose how to lose the game. They chose to make McElroy win it and not Ingram. That is the gameplan I would choose too. My point is, UF is far superior on D than AU and AU was able to stuff the run. Why would Bama try to stay vanilla? UF has seen them go down field. I think Bama has played a few more games than just AU. BTW, I haven't placed a wager on the game, and might not, I just like a good, senseable discussion.

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    jimmy and game,

    I know AU had Bynes spying Ingram the whole game. Auburn had to choose how to lose the game. They chose to make McElroy win it and not Ingram. That is the gameplan I would choose too. My point is, UF is far superior on D than AU and AU was able to stuff the run. Why would Bama try to stay vanilla? UF has seen them go down field. I think Bama has played a few more games than just AU. BTW, I haven't placed a wager on the game, and might not, I just like a good, senseable discussion.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:23 PM ET #58

    Meyer HAS to suspend him, right?

    Ahh, I bet that they wait until an investigation can be completed.

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    Meyer HAS to suspend him, right?

    Ahh, I bet that they wait until an investigation can be completed.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:28 PM ET #59

    Oh yeah a few different plays and Florida looses to USC

    And Ill tell you what, if Auburn and USC play this week Auburn handles them rather easily. Don't forget that was a rivalry game Bama and Auburn played either. Saban and Co probably do have some nice tricks up their sleeves for them Gators, like the opinion they meant to keep it simple also.
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    Oh yeah a few different plays and Florida looses to USC

    And Ill tell you what, if Auburn and USC play this week Auburn handles them rather easily. Don't forget that was a rivalry game Bama and Auburn played either. Saban and Co probably do have some nice tricks up their sleeves for them Gators, like the opinion they meant to keep it simple also.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:53 PM ET #60

    Trattou is a solid DE, Dunlap will be gone for this game guaranteed.

    For the person who says Spikes didnt get what he deserved?????????? He missed a game for an alledged eye gouge that didnt even get called. STFU
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    Trattou is a solid DE, Dunlap will be gone for this game guaranteed.

    For the person who says Spikes didnt get what he deserved?????????? He missed a game for an alledged eye gouge that didnt even get called. STFU
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:55 PM ET #61

    RTR my ass......  BAMA going down and FLORIDA covering easily, even without there DE....
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    RTR my ass......  BAMA going down and FLORIDA covering easily, even without there DE....
     
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    well lets think about this, auburn had two weeks to prepare for alabama and they pulled out every stop in the book to try to win. alabama didnt even have a whole week to prepare and really didnt show the enthusiasm that they have all year in the first 10 minutes of the game. auburn came out firing and bama wasnt prepared. I can bet you one thing though, alabama will be prepared this week. if any of yall think that last week was a bad thing for alabama, you couldnt be further from the truth. alabama needed that challenge, the offense faced its first "must score" of the season, greg and co. delivered. the confidence and experience the offense gained from last week can very well be the thing that beats florida, most of us will agree this is going to be a close game and like last year will be decided in the 4th quarter. as for carlos dunlap, there is no way in hell he will play saturday.
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    well lets think about this, auburn had two weeks to prepare for alabama and they pulled out every stop in the book to try to win. alabama didnt even have a whole week to prepare and really didnt show the enthusiasm that they have all year in the first 10 minutes of the game. auburn came out firing and bama wasnt prepared. I can bet you one thing though, alabama will be prepared this week. if any of yall think that last week was a bad thing for alabama, you couldnt be further from the truth. alabama needed that challenge, the offense faced its first "must score" of the season, greg and co. delivered. the confidence and experience the offense gained from last week can very well be the thing that beats florida, most of us will agree this is going to be a close game and like last year will be decided in the 4th quarter. as for carlos dunlap, there is no way in hell he will play saturday.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 1:02 PM ET #63

    FWIW the Georgia RB spit in Brandon Spikes face earlier in the game, thats where the anger came from.
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    FWIW the Georgia RB spit in Brandon Spikes face earlier in the game, thats where the anger came from.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 1:25 PM ET #64

    What about Ingram? I know he's playing, but how effective will he be?
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    What about Ingram? I know he's playing, but how effective will he be?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle_Gimp:

    He missed a game for an alledged eye gouge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0garYRQ_0&feature=player_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle_Gimp:

    He missed a game for an alledged eye gouge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0garYRQ_0&feature=player_embedded

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    What about Ingram? I know he's playing, but how effective will he be?

    That is to be determained how affective he will be but I can tell you this.. Bama has many more RB's to step in... I am not saying there wouldn't be a drop off but there are 3 other RB's that can get it done for Bama..
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    What about Ingram? I know he's playing, but how effective will he be?

    That is to be determained how affective he will be but I can tell you this.. Bama has many more RB's to step in... I am not saying there wouldn't be a drop off but there are 3 other RB's that can get it done for Bama..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarlesBarkley:

    well lets think about this, auburn had two weeks to prepare for alabama and they pulled out every stop in the book to try to win. alabama didnt even have a whole week to prepare and really didnt show the enthusiasm that they have all year in the first 10 minutes of the game. auburn came out firing and bama wasnt prepared. I can bet you one thing though, alabama will be prepared this week. if any of yall think that last week was a bad thing for alabama, you couldnt be further from the truth. alabama needed that challenge, the offense faced its first "must score" of the season, greg and co. delivered. the confidence and experience the offense gained from last week can very well be the thing that beats florida, most of us will agree this is going to be a close game and like last year will be decided in the 4th quarter. as for carlos dunlap, there is no way in hell he will play saturday.

    auburn had two weeks to prepare for alabama and they pulled out every stop in the book to try to win
    Isn't that the goal, to win?

    alabama didnt even have a whole week to prepare
    Right. Because they had mighty UT Chattanooga the week before..

    auburn came out firing and bama wasnt prepared. I can bet you one thing though, alabama will be prepared this week
    Was AU supposed to just lay down? Why will Bama be prepared this week and not last?

    if any of yall think that last week was a bad thing for alabama, you couldnt be further from the truth.
    Couldnt agree more! AU did Bama a favor

    as for carlos dunlap, there is no way in hell he will play saturday
    He shouldn't...but that doesn't mean he wont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarlesBarkley:

    well lets think about this, auburn had two weeks to prepare for alabama and they pulled out every stop in the book to try to win. alabama didnt even have a whole week to prepare and really didnt show the enthusiasm that they have all year in the first 10 minutes of the game. auburn came out firing and bama wasnt prepared. I can bet you one thing though, alabama will be prepared this week. if any of yall think that last week was a bad thing for alabama, you couldnt be further from the truth. alabama needed that challenge, the offense faced its first "must score" of the season, greg and co. delivered. the confidence and experience the offense gained from last week can very well be the thing that beats florida, most of us will agree this is going to be a close game and like last year will be decided in the 4th quarter. as for carlos dunlap, there is no way in hell he will play saturday.

    auburn had two weeks to prepare for alabama and they pulled out every stop in the book to try to win
    Isn't that the goal, to win?

    alabama didnt even have a whole week to prepare
    Right. Because they had mighty UT Chattanooga the week before..

    auburn came out firing and bama wasnt prepared. I can bet you one thing though, alabama will be prepared this week
    Was AU supposed to just lay down? Why will Bama be prepared this week and not last?

    if any of yall think that last week was a bad thing for alabama, you couldnt be further from the truth.
    Couldnt agree more! AU did Bama a favor

    as for carlos dunlap, there is no way in hell he will play saturday
    He shouldn't...but that doesn't mean he wont.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 2:17 PM ET #68

    looks sounds and feels like a UNDER
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 2:20 PM ET #69

    A starting player being degenerate-ly drunk is a major distraction--PERIOD. Prolly won't play, a smart move by Meyer.

    Probably Florida has a capable back-up who can play well--but the whole defensive line will be tested by Alabama's run game, and they did not need this distraction.

    TENN was able to run on Florida, and TENN has a dunce at QB.

    ALA will be right there at the end, and will prevail.

     

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    A starting player being degenerate-ly drunk is a major distraction--PERIOD. Prolly won't play, a smart move by Meyer.

    Probably Florida has a capable back-up who can play well--but the whole defensive line will be tested by Alabama's run game, and they did not need this distraction.

    TENN was able to run on Florida, and TENN has a dunce at QB.

    ALA will be right there at the end, and will prevail.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 3:21 PM ET #70

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    jimmy and game,

    I know AU had Bynes spying Ingram the whole game. Auburn had to choose how to lose the game. They chose to make McElroy win it and not Ingram. That is the gameplan I would choose too. My point is, UF is far superior on D than AU and AU was able to stuff the run. Why would Bama try to stay vanilla? UF has seen them go down field. I think Bama has played a few more games than just AU. BTW, I haven't placed a wager on the game, and might not, I just like a good, senseable discussion.

    Trackem I absolutely agree with what you are saying.  McElroy is an average QB at best (although still better than JPW), and I don't think there is any doubt that Florida will be gearing up to stop the run first.  Florida would love nothing more than to force Alabama to rely on McElroy to chase down a deficeitlike they did last year with JPW.  But there is really nothing new about this strategy.  Teams did the same thing for the 3 years while JPW was the QB, and teams did the same thing this year with McElroy.  Bama's coaching staff pretty much deals with this every week, so it's not really anything new.

    The difference in the Auburn game was they had Bynes follow Ingram everywhere he went.  Auburn's mantra for the Iron Bowl was that Ingram won't win the Heisman against us.  I seriously don't think Florida will employ a similar strategy with Spikes, because doing so would encourage Bama to use Ingram as a decoy to take Spikes out of the game.  That's not to say Florida may not employ some other strategy to shut down Bama's running attack.

    Why would Bama stay vanilla against Auburn?  To answer that, we need to go back to last year's Iron Bowl.  Because of the streak, Bama's Super Bowl last year was the Iron Bowl.  And as most of us gamblers know, after a big huge emotional win like last year's Iron Bowl was, teams usually have a letdown the following week.  See Oregon victory over USC this season.  What I am saying is that the SEC Championship game against Florida became a classic letdown spot for Bama.  The jubilation from the Iron Bowl victory lasted well into the next week, and definitely effect Bama's mental preparation for Florida.

    Saban, being the smart coach that he is, recognized what happened last year, and was determined to not to let that happen again this year.  This year Bama/Saban made Florida their Super Bowl . . . not Auburn.  The goal in the Auburn game was just win and not get anyone injured for the Florida game.  Nothing fancy was added to the Auburn gameplan.  Bama's staff felt like they could just line up and win the game with superior talent.  Having said that, I'm sure they didn't want the game to be as close as it was.

    You also mention in a different post that Auburn having 2 weeks to prepare for Alabama was not a significant advantage because Bama played Tennessee-Chattanooga the week prior.  That is not true because I can tell that the coaching staff spent that week working on Chattanooga and Florida (their Super Bowl game), not Auburn.  So Bama's staff only worked on Auburn for 3.5 days.

    I hope this explains to people why Bama tried to stay as vanilla as possible for Auburn this year.

    I will also add, if I haven't already in a previous post, that Bama has been cooking up some surprises offensively for Florida.  I guess it remains to be seen if those surprises are sucessful or not. 

     

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    jimmy and game,

    I know AU had Bynes spying Ingram the whole game. Auburn had to choose how to lose the game. They chose to make McElroy win it and not Ingram. That is the gameplan I would choose too. My point is, UF is far superior on D than AU and AU was able to stuff the run. Why would Bama try to stay vanilla? UF has seen them go down field. I think Bama has played a few more games than just AU. BTW, I haven't placed a wager on the game, and might not, I just like a good, senseable discussion.

    Trackem I absolutely agree with what you are saying.  McElroy is an average QB at best (although still better than JPW), and I don't think there is any doubt that Florida will be gearing up to stop the run first.  Florida would love nothing more than to force Alabama to rely on McElroy to chase down a deficeitlike they did last year with JPW.  But there is really nothing new about this strategy.  Teams did the same thing for the 3 years while JPW was the QB, and teams did the same thing this year with McElroy.  Bama's coaching staff pretty much deals with this every week, so it's not really anything new.

    The difference in the Auburn game was they had Bynes follow Ingram everywhere he went.  Auburn's mantra for the Iron Bowl was that Ingram won't win the Heisman against us.  I seriously don't think Florida will employ a similar strategy with Spikes, because doing so would encourage Bama to use Ingram as a decoy to take Spikes out of the game.  That's not to say Florida may not employ some other strategy to shut down Bama's running attack.

    Why would Bama stay vanilla against Auburn?  To answer that, we need to go back to last year's Iron Bowl.  Because of the streak, Bama's Super Bowl last year was the Iron Bowl.  And as most of us gamblers know, after a big huge emotional win like last year's Iron Bowl was, teams usually have a letdown the following week.  See Oregon victory over USC this season.  What I am saying is that the SEC Championship game against Florida became a classic letdown spot for Bama.  The jubilation from the Iron Bowl victory lasted well into the next week, and definitely effect Bama's mental preparation for Florida.

    Saban, being the smart coach that he is, recognized what happened last year, and was determined to not to let that happen again this year.  This year Bama/Saban made Florida their Super Bowl . . . not Auburn.  The goal in the Auburn game was just win and not get anyone injured for the Florida game.  Nothing fancy was added to the Auburn gameplan.  Bama's staff felt like they could just line up and win the game with superior talent.  Having said that, I'm sure they didn't want the game to be as close as it was.

    You also mention in a different post that Auburn having 2 weeks to prepare for Alabama was not a significant advantage because Bama played Tennessee-Chattanooga the week prior.  That is not true because I can tell that the coaching staff spent that week working on Chattanooga and Florida (their Super Bowl game), not Auburn.  So Bama's staff only worked on Auburn for 3.5 days.

    I hope this explains to people why Bama tried to stay as vanilla as possible for Auburn this year.

    I will also add, if I haven't already in a previous post, that Bama has been cooking up some surprises offensively for Florida.  I guess it remains to be seen if those surprises are sucessful or not. 

     

     
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    Florida wins

    Bama

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    Bama

     
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    First off-I respect all bettors. It's your money, put it on whatever team you want, that is your right.

    But, I would just like to point out that the smarter bettors here on covers (both of them) would remind you to bet with your head, not with your heart. I know it brings a little extra joy bringing home the bacon at the expense of a hated rival, or in this case, rival and chance to become the #1 team in the country..........

    Jimmy, I know you got good info; and for some reason, people are starting threads with this game as their GOY, but why? Wouldn't you want something that is a little more of a "sure thing"? (which don't exist). But if you know something, have an angle, a lean, weather report, suspensions, etc., by all means, go for it. Just don't do something stupid and bet a ton of money that you have worked so hard for.

    Bet smart, my friends
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    First off-I respect all bettors. It's your money, put it on whatever team you want, that is your right.

    But, I would just like to point out that the smarter bettors here on covers (both of them) would remind you to bet with your head, not with your heart. I know it brings a little extra joy bringing home the bacon at the expense of a hated rival, or in this case, rival and chance to become the #1 team in the country..........

    Jimmy, I know you got good info; and for some reason, people are starting threads with this game as their GOY, but why? Wouldn't you want something that is a little more of a "sure thing"? (which don't exist). But if you know something, have an angle, a lean, weather report, suspensions, etc., by all means, go for it. Just don't do something stupid and bet a ton of money that you have worked so hard for.

    Bet smart, my friends
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    First off-I respect all bettors. It's your money, put it on whatever team you want, that is your right.

    But, I would just like to point out that the smarter bettors here on covers (both of them) would remind you to bet with your head, not with your heart. I know it brings a little extra joy bringing home the bacon at the expense of a hated rival, or in this case, rival and chance to become the #1 team in the country..........

    Jimmy, I know you got good info; and for some reason, people are starting threads with this game as their GOY, but why? Wouldn't you want something that is a little more of a "sure thing"? (which don't exist). But if you know something, have an angle, a lean, weather report, suspensions, etc., by all means, go for it. Just don't do something stupid and bet a ton of money that you have worked so hard for.

    Bet smart, my friends

    If the line moves past 6, which it shouldnt, it will be my GOY. Game will be decided in the last few minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    First off-I respect all bettors. It's your money, put it on whatever team you want, that is your right.

    But, I would just like to point out that the smarter bettors here on covers (both of them) would remind you to bet with your head, not with your heart. I know it brings a little extra joy bringing home the bacon at the expense of a hated rival, or in this case, rival and chance to become the #1 team in the country..........

    Jimmy, I know you got good info; and for some reason, people are starting threads with this game as their GOY, but why? Wouldn't you want something that is a little more of a "sure thing"? (which don't exist). But if you know something, have an angle, a lean, weather report, suspensions, etc., by all means, go for it. Just don't do something stupid and bet a ton of money that you have worked so hard for.

    Bet smart, my friends

    If the line moves past 6, which it shouldnt, it will be my GOY. Game will be decided in the last few minutes.

     
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    gators win again..how could anybody see differently???  unless you are willing to put your money on a 1-6 pt loss
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    gators win again..how could anybody see differently???  unless you are willing to put your money on a 1-6 pt loss
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by trackem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0garYRQ_0&feature=player_embedded



    Ive seen it a million times. It appears he is trying to eye gouge, but you cant prove he did.

    Once again wasnt flagged, and that was a dirty fucking game all around. Late hits on Tebow 4 secs after he hands the ball off. Spikes getting spit on and helmet being ripped off. It went both ways.

    A dirty play sure, but if you ever played the game, you would know it goes on a lot.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0garYRQ_0&feature=player_embedded



    Ive seen it a million times. It appears he is trying to eye gouge, but you cant prove he did.

    Once again wasnt flagged, and that was a dirty fucking game all around. Late hits on Tebow 4 secs after he hands the ball off. Spikes getting spit on and helmet being ripped off. It went both ways.

    A dirty play sure, but if you ever played the game, you would know it goes on a lot.
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