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    WHat i like for the Pacman Fight.....

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    Cee_MoNeY
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2009 - 6:41 PM ET #1

    I had a lean towards Hatton.....large lean based off that riduclous line of -250 when it should be closer towards -180 0r -160 like the dlh fight..........I also felt pacman has took the easy path towards #1 p4p considering his last 10 victories have been...a faded oscar dela hoya, a horrible david daiz and a robbery of juan marquez....(fyi i bet big on pac-man and was shittin my pants), a old spent marco antonio barrea and eric morales, a overrated Jorge Solis, and a battle torn Oscar Larios..........Honestly i think he is very overrated.....
     
    Hatton is overrated himself as well since I cannot think of a brit I absoultly fell in love with since Lennox Lewis and before that Nigel Benn...However one must take account that Hatton's has beaten better oposition and at least has been handed that career changing loss.....Looking at the fighters it is clear Hatton looks more stronger as well.....The question is how fit is hatton and is he going to be able to chase Manny around the ring for 12 rounds as well as fight with some movement to throw manny off.....
     
    Honestly if Hatton's game plan is to fight like Mr...Armed Robber Kirkland  then I would go all in today....As there is no way Manny could stand that pressure but if he decides he can win by throwing less punches then pacman then its all over before the fight starts....
     
    this is the only line i like for today....
    -170 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I had a lean towards Hatton.....large lean based off that riduclous line of -250 when it should be closer towards -180 0r -160 like the dlh fight..........I also felt pacman has took the easy path towards #1 p4p considering his last 10 victories have been...a faded oscar dela hoya, a horrible david daiz and a robbery of juan marquez....(fyi i bet big on pac-man and was shittin my pants), a old spent marco antonio barrea and eric morales, a overrated Jorge Solis, and a battle torn Oscar Larios..........Honestly i think he is very overrated.....
     
    Hatton is overrated himself as well since I cannot think of a brit I absoultly fell in love with since Lennox Lewis and before that Nigel Benn...However one must take account that Hatton's has beaten better oposition and at least has been handed that career changing loss.....Looking at the fighters it is clear Hatton looks more stronger as well.....The question is how fit is hatton and is he going to be able to chase Manny around the ring for 12 rounds as well as fight with some movement to throw manny off.....
     
    Honestly if Hatton's game plan is to fight like Mr...Armed Robber Kirkland  then I would go all in today....As there is no way Manny could stand that pressure but if he decides he can win by throwing less punches then pacman then its all over before the fight starts....
     
    this is the only line i like for today....
    -170 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2009 - 6:43 PM ET #2

    -170 fight does not go the distance....
     
    working with the cut angle and the fact that someone is going down
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    -170 fight does not go the distance....
     
    working with the cut angle and the fact that someone is going down
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2009 - 9:38 PM ET #3

    Like it
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    Like it
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 3:59 AM ET #4

    TONS of Value
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    TONS of Value
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 5:37 AM ET #5

    I agree with the under, completely disagree with the notion that Pac's overrated.  I think Pac will spark him out.


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    I agree with the under, completely disagree with the notion that Pac's overrated.  I think Pac will spark him out.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 10:47 AM ET #6

    I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, however I think you're discrediting how good and evolved Manny really has become. That's fine if you want to make a case for JMM (in both of their fights) but they were extremely competitive regardless of who you thought won. And btw, if you put Marquez on his butt 4 times, you got game.  And on that note, to say Manny isn't one of the best or overratted doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Those two (JMM & Manny) are hands down the two of the best fighters in the world P4P and I agree, Ricky Hatton doesn't even belong in the same breathe. 
     
    I also agree that Manny is overpriced here. Does this mean he won't win?? No.
    But what it does mean is that he won't see a dollar of my money.
     
    GL
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    I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, however I think you're discrediting how good and evolved Manny really has become. That's fine if you want to make a case for JMM (in both of their fights) but they were extremely competitive regardless of who you thought won. And btw, if you put Marquez on his butt 4 times, you got game.  And on that note, to say Manny isn't one of the best or overratted doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Those two (JMM & Manny) are hands down the two of the best fighters in the world P4P and I agree, Ricky Hatton doesn't even belong in the same breathe. 
     
    I also agree that Manny is overpriced here. Does this mean he won't win?? No.
    But what it does mean is that he won't see a dollar of my money.
     
    GL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 12:50 PM ET #7

    i like the pick, but think you're a bit off on this one cee...though i did run into a group of englishmun on the strip who are quite sure there'll be a 5th round KO in hatton's favor.
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    i like the pick, but think you're a bit off on this one cee...though i did run into a group of englishmun on the strip who are quite sure there'll be a 5th round KO in hatton's favor.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 2:41 PM ET #8

    either way I like the +105 under 9.5 rounds. best deal for the fight. With the styles in this fight someone will get caught and hurt.
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    either way I like the +105 under 9.5 rounds. best deal for the fight. With the styles in this fight someone will get caught and hurt.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 3:33 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, however I think you're discrediting how good and evolved Manny really has become. That's fine if you want to make a case for JMM (in both of their fights) but they were extremely competitive regardless of who you thought won. And btw, if you put Marquez on his butt 4 times, you got game.  And on that note, to say Manny isn't one of the best or overratted doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Those two (JMM & Manny) are hands down the two of the best fighters in the world P4P and I agree, Ricky Hatton doesn't even belong in the same breathe. 
     
    I also agree that Manny is overpriced here. Does this mean he won't win?? No.
    But what it does mean is that he won't see a dollar of my money.
     
    GL

    floyd, mosely, cotto, and maybe even ortiz would smoke manny pac and marquez.....u can even make a notion that campbell and bradley could have a chance........Manny and Juan Marquez are over there head fighting so high in weight....What I am saying is in no doubt do i believe that Manny skills have turned to elite in the past  years but his path has been an easy one....Honestly i do not feel that he is the p4p guy.....if he murders hatton i definatley will give him more props.

    Truth is Floyd will murder JMM and Paq-man and i guarentee that.......Can hatton win....yes....will i bet the bank on hatton....no......will i take the under....hell yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, however I think you're discrediting how good and evolved Manny really has become. That's fine if you want to make a case for JMM (in both of their fights) but they were extremely competitive regardless of who you thought won. And btw, if you put Marquez on his butt 4 times, you got game.  And on that note, to say Manny isn't one of the best or overratted doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Those two (JMM & Manny) are hands down the two of the best fighters in the world P4P and I agree, Ricky Hatton doesn't even belong in the same breathe. 
     
    I also agree that Manny is overpriced here. Does this mean he won't win?? No.
    But what it does mean is that he won't see a dollar of my money.
     
    GL

    floyd, mosely, cotto, and maybe even ortiz would smoke manny pac and marquez.....u can even make a notion that campbell and bradley could have a chance........Manny and Juan Marquez are over there head fighting so high in weight....What I am saying is in no doubt do i believe that Manny skills have turned to elite in the past  years but his path has been an easy one....Honestly i do not feel that he is the p4p guy.....if he murders hatton i definatley will give him more props.

    Truth is Floyd will murder JMM and Paq-man and i guarentee that.......Can hatton win....yes....will i bet the bank on hatton....no......will i take the under....hell yes...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 5:44 PM ET #10

    Hatton is a glorified club fighter.
    His straight in head down clutch and hold style will not work against a great fighter like Manny
    Manny will bounce in and out and pick him apart and embarrass him


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    Hatton is a glorified club fighter.
    His straight in head down clutch and hold style will not work against a great fighter like Manny
    Manny will bounce in and out and pick him apart and embarrass him


     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2009 - 11:25 PM ET #11

    Pinny is right, Pacman is very overpriced.
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    Pinny is right, Pacman is very overpriced.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    floyd, mosely, cotto, and maybe even ortiz would smoke manny pac and marquez.....u can even make a notion that campbell and bradley could have a chance........Manny and Juan Marquez are over there head fighting so high in weight....What I am saying is in no doubt do i believe that Manny skills have turned to elite in the past  years but his path has been an easy one....Honestly i do not feel that he is the p4p guy.....if he murders hatton i definatley will give him more props.

    Truth is Floyd will murder JMM and Paq-man and i guarentee that.......Can hatton win....yes....will i bet the bank on hatton....no......will i take the under....hell yes...

    Dude put the pipe down.   Why on earth would  there even be a JMM v PBF match up?  Pinnacle is talking about JMM being a respected boxer in his weight class.  Quit making excuses that Manny path to elite status was a road down old has-beens. Cause that just ain't fuckin so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    floyd, mosely, cotto, and maybe even ortiz would smoke manny pac and marquez.....u can even make a notion that campbell and bradley could have a chance........Manny and Juan Marquez are over there head fighting so high in weight....What I am saying is in no doubt do i believe that Manny skills have turned to elite in the past  years but his path has been an easy one....Honestly i do not feel that he is the p4p guy.....if he murders hatton i definatley will give him more props.

    Truth is Floyd will murder JMM and Paq-man and i guarentee that.......Can hatton win....yes....will i bet the bank on hatton....no......will i take the under....hell yes...

    Dude put the pipe down.   Why on earth would  there even be a JMM v PBF match up?  Pinnacle is talking about JMM being a respected boxer in his weight class.  Quit making excuses that Manny path to elite status was a road down old has-beens. Cause that just ain't fuckin so.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 2:58 AM ET #13

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.
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    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 3:00 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.


    I hope you dopes continue to believe this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.


    I hope you dopes continue to believe this.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 4:34 AM ET #15

    actually the prop bets for this fight are pretty damn good. +105 for Manny to win by ko, tko, or dq and +325 for Hatton, shit I'd probably take both and the rounds Under 9.5 at +105
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    actually the prop bets for this fight are pretty damn good. +105 for Manny to win by ko, tko, or dq and +325 for Hatton, shit I'd probably take both and the rounds Under 9.5 at +105
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 5:48 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    Dude put the pipe down.   Why on earth would  there even be a JMM v PBF match up?  Pinnacle is talking about JMM being a respected boxer in his weight class.  Quit making excuses that Manny path to elite status was a road down old has-beens. Cause that just ain't fuckin so.

    seriously ..... I think JMM is more a P4p then Pac-Man,,,,,,And if your dumb ass doesnt know....PBF and JMM are currently close to signing to fight each other..........What im saying concers with pinnacle saying Manny is overrated and overpriced......he the best in his weightclass at 135 or 130 but until he beats a top divison fight ...then i will give him more credit at higher weights

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    Dude put the pipe down.   Why on earth would  there even be a JMM v PBF match up?  Pinnacle is talking about JMM being a respected boxer in his weight class.  Quit making excuses that Manny path to elite status was a road down old has-beens. Cause that just ain't fuckin so.

    seriously ..... I think JMM is more a P4p then Pac-Man,,,,,,And if your dumb ass doesnt know....PBF and JMM are currently close to signing to fight each other..........What im saying concers with pinnacle saying Manny is overrated and overpriced......he the best in his weightclass at 135 or 130 but until he beats a top divison fight ...then i will give him more credit at higher weights

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 5:49 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.

    yup.....it bet it doesnt last 12 full............but i say either fighter can do that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.

    yup.....it bet it doesnt last 12 full............but i say either fighter can do that....

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 12:32 PM ET #18

    Pac man by Tko in the 9th
     
    From Vegas to you take and collect
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    Pac man by Tko in the 9th
     
    From Vegas to you take and collect
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 2:05 PM ET #19

    Anyone know what time the weigh-in is, and can it viewed on the Net (if so, where) ???
     
     
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    Anyone know what time the weigh-in is, and can it viewed on the Net (if so, where) ???
     
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 2:21 PM ET #20

    Nevermind, found it.
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    Nevermind, found it.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2009 - 6:24 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.

    nice pic 3peet smooooooking!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet:

    and btw,  Hatton ain't nuthin more than a barroom brawler.

    nice pic 3peet smooooooking!!!

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