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    Weekend Picks (9/25-9/27)

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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 2:38 PM ET #1

    2 leg parlay:

    Paul Williams vs. Andy Kolle
    Over 7.5 (+105) (5 Dimes)
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    Chris Arreola vs. Israel Carlos Garcia
    Under 5.5 (-260)


    1 Unit (+183)

    This evening's card on VS. promises to be an exciting one, with Paul Williams moving up to middleweight and taking on the durable Andy Kolle in the main event.  We'll also get a good look at rising heavyweight star Chris Arreola against an opponent unlikely to back down against the numerous haymakers that will be coming at him as long as the fight lasts, Israel Carlos Garcia.  I expect Williams to either box his way to a decisive points win over Kolle or possibly score a late round KO.  Not to take anything away from Williams, but his 1st round KO of Quintana was probably more of an aberition than anything else, where he caught his seemingly overconfident opponent off guard.  In this evening's fight, I expect a controlled, deliberate performance where we see less of the volume punching Williams is known for and more of a threading the needle sort of style.  Williams should have some extra pop behind his punches with the added weight and this might begin to take it's toll on Kolle during the late rounds as it did during his only loss (a KO loss) against Andre Ward back in '06.  Still, Kolle has proven he can go the length with above average competition as seen in hisrecent points wins over Matt Vanda and Jonathan Reid.  As for Arreola - Garcia, this just has the feel of a ticking time bomb.  Arreola is a monster puncher who likes to take his opponents out quickly.  Contrast that with Garcia's all out brawling style and the fact that he's never faced anyone professionally with even close to the skills of Arreola and we have a fight that should be extremely entertaining while it lasts, though it really shouldn't last more than 4 or 5 rounds.
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    2 leg parlay:

    Paul Williams vs. Andy Kolle
    Over 7.5 (+105) (5 Dimes)
    &
    Chris Arreola vs. Israel Carlos Garcia
    Under 5.5 (-260)


    1 Unit (+183)

    This evening's card on VS. promises to be an exciting one, with Paul Williams moving up to middleweight and taking on the durable Andy Kolle in the main event.  We'll also get a good look at rising heavyweight star Chris Arreola against an opponent unlikely to back down against the numerous haymakers that will be coming at him as long as the fight lasts, Israel Carlos Garcia.  I expect Williams to either box his way to a decisive points win over Kolle or possibly score a late round KO.  Not to take anything away from Williams, but his 1st round KO of Quintana was probably more of an aberition than anything else, where he caught his seemingly overconfident opponent off guard.  In this evening's fight, I expect a controlled, deliberate performance where we see less of the volume punching Williams is known for and more of a threading the needle sort of style.  Williams should have some extra pop behind his punches with the added weight and this might begin to take it's toll on Kolle during the late rounds as it did during his only loss (a KO loss) against Andre Ward back in '06.  Still, Kolle has proven he can go the length with above average competition as seen in hisrecent points wins over Matt Vanda and Jonathan Reid.  As for Arreola - Garcia, this just has the feel of a ticking time bomb.  Arreola is a monster puncher who likes to take his opponents out quickly.  Contrast that with Garcia's all out brawling style and the fact that he's never faced anyone professionally with even close to the skills of Arreola and we have a fight that should be extremely entertaining while it lasts, though it really shouldn't last more than 4 or 5 rounds.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 3:33 PM ET #2

    Dominic Salcido vs. Vicente Escobedo
    Salcido (+300) (Sportsbook)
    0.5 unit


    I haven't seen Salcido, but reports indicate that he's a speedy boxer who's convincingly won all of his fights despite a lack of pop on his punches.  That's good enough for me to take him at these odds, as Escobedo hasn't looked like anything special against the journeymen he's faced on Telefutura and ESPN.  Escobedo hasn't fought a decent boxer since losing a split decision to Daniel Jimenez in 2006.  Hopefully, Salcido can give him similar problems (plus, it's hard to imagine Salcido having a lower workrate than Jimenez, who tends to wait a bit too much for counter opportunities).



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    Dominic Salcido vs. Vicente Escobedo
    Salcido (+300) (Sportsbook)
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    I haven't seen Salcido, but reports indicate that he's a speedy boxer who's convincingly won all of his fights despite a lack of pop on his punches.  That's good enough for me to take him at these odds, as Escobedo hasn't looked like anything special against the journeymen he's faced on Telefutura and ESPN.  Escobedo hasn't fought a decent boxer since losing a split decision to Daniel Jimenez in 2006.  Hopefully, Salcido can give him similar problems (plus, it's hard to imagine Salcido having a lower workrate than Jimenez, who tends to wait a bit too much for counter opportunities).



     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 5:34 PM ET #3

    I am with you on Salcido.  I wish I had seen some of Garcia besides what I have read, Arreola came in LARGE.
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    I am with you on Salcido.  I wish I had seen some of Garcia besides what I have read, Arreola came in LARGE.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 11:00 PM ET #4

    The line on Salcido has really dropped, that was a great get.  I am sure that 5dimes will offer fight props on it, hopefully Salcido by decision will be +300ish also.  You don't have to tell me about Jimenez waiting to long.

    Tough luck tonight.  Plenty of other opportunities this weekend. 
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    The line on Salcido has really dropped, that was a great get.  I am sure that 5dimes will offer fight props on it, hopefully Salcido by decision will be +300ish also.  You don't have to tell me about Jimenez waiting to long.

    Tough luck tonight.  Plenty of other opportunities this weekend. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 11:34 PM ET #5

    Paul Williams vs. Andy Kolle
    Over 7.5 (+105) (5 Dimes)
    Chris Arreola vs. Israel Carlos Garcia
    Under 5.5 (-260)
    1 Unit (+183)

    Kolle just couldn't take Williams' power.  Williams looks very good at 160, and I'm really hoping we see a Pavlik-Williams megafight sometime in 2009.
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    Paul Williams vs. Andy Kolle
    Over 7.5 (+105) (5 Dimes)
    Chris Arreola vs. Israel Carlos Garcia
    Under 5.5 (-260)
    1 Unit (+183)

    Kolle just couldn't take Williams' power.  Williams looks very good at 160, and I'm really hoping we see a Pavlik-Williams megafight sometime in 2009.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 11:40 PM ET #6

    Andre Berto vs. Steve Forbes
    Berto ITD (+172)
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    Although Forbes has never been KO'd, he's never faced anyone as hungry, strong, and skilled as Berto.  A lot of people seem to think that Forbes can go the distance based on his decent showing against De La Hoya, but I see DLH as a shell of his former self now that he's a semi-retired businessman.  Forbes isn't the type of fighter who gets on his bicycle for 12 rounds in an attempt to survive, so I fully expect him to try to win this fight.  As a result, he'll be forced to engage with Berto at times, and that will cause him to steadily wear down.  Berto's relentless energy and heavy hands should earn him a late stoppage win.
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    Andre Berto vs. Steve Forbes
    Berto ITD (+172)
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    Although Forbes has never been KO'd, he's never faced anyone as hungry, strong, and skilled as Berto.  A lot of people seem to think that Forbes can go the distance based on his decent showing against De La Hoya, but I see DLH as a shell of his former self now that he's a semi-retired businessman.  Forbes isn't the type of fighter who gets on his bicycle for 12 rounds in an attempt to survive, so I fully expect him to try to win this fight.  As a result, he'll be forced to engage with Berto at times, and that will cause him to steadily wear down.  Berto's relentless energy and heavy hands should earn him a late stoppage win.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 11:41 AM ET #7

    Alexander Alexeev vs. Rob Calloway
    Calloway (+1250)
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    I can't pass on making a small play on "The All-American Prizefighter."  Calloway made me some big money as a +400 dog against Terry Smith last summer, as he used his ring experience to execute a smart fight plan despite being outmatched on paper.  Of course, Alexeev should win, but he's a prospect who's never been tested by a savvy veteran like Calloway.  The odds are long enough that I'm willing to take a chance on Calloway pulling one more rabbit out of his hat.  Plus, it's just fun to cheer for a guy who only made it out of the Midwestern circuit because of heart and smarts.
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    Alexander Alexeev vs. Rob Calloway
    Calloway (+1250)
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    I can't pass on making a small play on "The All-American Prizefighter."  Calloway made me some big money as a +400 dog against Terry Smith last summer, as he used his ring experience to execute a smart fight plan despite being outmatched on paper.  Of course, Alexeev should win, but he's a prospect who's never been tested by a savvy veteran like Calloway.  The odds are long enough that I'm willing to take a chance on Calloway pulling one more rabbit out of his hat.  Plus, it's just fun to cheer for a guy who only made it out of the Midwestern circuit because of heart and smarts.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 12:25 PM ET #8

    You guys have sold me.Dominic Salcido, small only
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    You guys have sold me.Dominic Salcido, small only
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 4:38 PM ET #9

    Denis Inkin vs. Fulgencio Zuniga
    Zuniga +150 (Sportsbook)
    1 unit


    I'll be back later to give more detailed reasons.  I just see Zuniga as a very underrated fighter who has a real chance at hurting Inkin.  Inkin's not the sturdiest guy, and he's never faced anyone as tough and strong as Zuniga.
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    Denis Inkin vs. Fulgencio Zuniga
    Zuniga +150 (Sportsbook)
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    I'll be back later to give more detailed reasons.  I just see Zuniga as a very underrated fighter who has a real chance at hurting Inkin.  Inkin's not the sturdiest guy, and he's never faced anyone as tough and strong as Zuniga.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 10:48 PM ET #10

    I wondered if anybody would throw a buck on Rob this weekend.  Hard to see him winning, but I would love to see it.  He is definitely a guy that's easy to pull for.

    Good luck to us on Salcido.  I can't make up my mind on Berto-Forbes,  I may have to follow you with the under.  Going against my Inky play uh?
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    I wondered if anybody would throw a buck on Rob this weekend.  Hard to see him winning, but I would love to see it.  He is definitely a guy that's easy to pull for.

    Good luck to us on Salcido.  I can't make up my mind on Berto-Forbes,  I may have to follow you with the under.  Going against my Inky play uh?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 12:13 AM ET #11

    Dominic Salcido vs. Vicente Escobedo
    Salcido (+300) (Sportsbook)
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    Salcido's a flamboyant jackass.  He was winning that fight until he put his hands down and got caught by a vicious counter left from Escobedo.
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    Dominic Salcido vs. Vicente Escobedo
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    Salcido's a flamboyant jackass.  He was winning that fight until he put his hands down and got caught by a vicious counter left from Escobedo.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 12:22 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    Dominic Salcido vs. Vicente Escobedo
    Salcido (+300) (Sportsbook)
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    Salcido's a flamboyant jackass.  He was winning that fight until he put his hands down and got caught by a vicious counter left from Escobedo.


    Yep, that's the type of loss that makes us all sick.  Salcido is just way too cocky.  He was the more talented guy and was putting rounds in the bank.  I had it 4-1 Salcido going into the 6th and I thought he closed the 5th with a big last 30 seconds.  He had Escodedo swollen and bleeding at the end of the 5th, but wow things turned sour there fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    Dominic Salcido vs. Vicente Escobedo
    Salcido (+300) (Sportsbook)
    0.5 unit 

    Salcido's a flamboyant jackass.  He was winning that fight until he put his hands down and got caught by a vicious counter left from Escobedo.


    Yep, that's the type of loss that makes us all sick.  Salcido is just way too cocky.  He was the more talented guy and was putting rounds in the bank.  I had it 4-1 Salcido going into the 6th and I thought he closed the 5th with a big last 30 seconds.  He had Escodedo swollen and bleeding at the end of the 5th, but wow things turned sour there fast.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 12:26 AM ET #13

    fucking salcido.  i've lost more money to fighters being cocky than i care to even begin to count.  he'll learn his lesson and i'll likely lose money betting against him next time.
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    fucking salcido.  i've lost more money to fighters being cocky than i care to even begin to count.  he'll learn his lesson and i'll likely lose money betting against him next time.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 4:17 AM ET #14

    I'm on Zuniga as well.
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    I'm on Zuniga as well.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 11:35 AM ET #15

    Wish I was going to be around later to catch Inkin - Zuniga, but I'll be attending the UT - Arkansas game this afternoon and won't see it live.  This looks like the marquee matchup of the German triple headed, one that puts Calzaghe's vacated WBO super middleweight belt on the table -  a classic matchup of a boxer vs. a fighter.  I can't resist plus money (you can get him at +155 now at 5 dimes) on the rugged Colombian fighter here,  although a part of me realizes it's a bit suicidal to go against the Universum machine in what should be a very close war.  Inkin is a technically sound boxer, no doubt about it - but I can see what happened in the Bruer fight happening again today.  Zuniga can hit a lot harder than his opponent and I have a gut feeling he can score a dramatic late round KO this afternoon.  It's clearly not in his best interest to let this one go to the scorecards in Hamburg.  I read a Pavlik interview a while back where he said his 2 toughest opponents were Zuniga and Jose Luis Zertuche.  Zuniga canvased Pavlik in the 1st round of their fight en route to a 9th round KO loss and then was himself floored by Zertuche before he came back to win a split decision.  Zuniga's only other loss was to the gritty Daniel Santos.  This should be a close fight in the early rounds and I can see Inkin winning the first 3 or 4.  By the middle of the fight, I think Zuniga will landing more and more of his power shots causing Inkin to take an increasingly cautious approach.  If Inkin backs of his jab or at least slows it down, Zuniga might be able to hit paydirt with a series of haymakers against an opponent he knows he holds an advantage over in the power department. 
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    Wish I was going to be around later to catch Inkin - Zuniga, but I'll be attending the UT - Arkansas game this afternoon and won't see it live.  This looks like the marquee matchup of the German triple headed, one that puts Calzaghe's vacated WBO super middleweight belt on the table -  a classic matchup of a boxer vs. a fighter.  I can't resist plus money (you can get him at +155 now at 5 dimes) on the rugged Colombian fighter here,  although a part of me realizes it's a bit suicidal to go against the Universum machine in what should be a very close war.  Inkin is a technically sound boxer, no doubt about it - but I can see what happened in the Bruer fight happening again today.  Zuniga can hit a lot harder than his opponent and I have a gut feeling he can score a dramatic late round KO this afternoon.  It's clearly not in his best interest to let this one go to the scorecards in Hamburg.  I read a Pavlik interview a while back where he said his 2 toughest opponents were Zuniga and Jose Luis Zertuche.  Zuniga canvased Pavlik in the 1st round of their fight en route to a 9th round KO loss and then was himself floored by Zertuche before he came back to win a split decision.  Zuniga's only other loss was to the gritty Daniel Santos.  This should be a close fight in the early rounds and I can see Inkin winning the first 3 or 4.  By the middle of the fight, I think Zuniga will landing more and more of his power shots causing Inkin to take an increasingly cautious approach.  If Inkin backs of his jab or at least slows it down, Zuniga might be able to hit paydirt with a series of haymakers against an opponent he knows he holds an advantage over in the power department. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    Wish I was going to be around later to catch Inkin - Zuniga, but I'll be attending the UT - Arkansas game this afternoon and won't see it live.  This looks like the marquee matchup of the German triple headed, one that puts Calzaghe's vacated WBO super middleweight belt on the table -  a classic matchup of a boxer vs. a fighter.  I can't resist plus money (you can get him at +155 now at 5 dimes) on the rugged Colombian fighter here,  although a part of me realizes it's a bit suicidal to go against the Universum machine in what should be a very close war.  Inkin is a technically sound boxer, no doubt about it - but I can see what happened in the Bruer fight happening again today.  Zuniga can hit a lot harder than his opponent and I have a gut feeling he can score a dramatic late round KO this afternoon.  It's clearly not in his best interest to let this one go to the scorecards in Hamburg.  I read a Pavlik interview a while back where he said his 2 toughest opponents were Zuniga and Jose Luis Zertuche.  Zuniga canvased Pavlik in the 1st round of their fight en route to a 9th round KO loss and then was himself floored by Zertuche before he came back to win a split decision.  Zuniga's only other loss was to the gritty Daniel Santos.  This should be a close fight in the early rounds and I can see Inkin winning the first 3 or 4.  By the middle of the fight, I think Zuniga will landing more and more of his power shots causing Inkin to take an increasingly cautious approach.  If Inkin backs of his jab or at least slows it down, Zuniga might be able to hit paydirt with a series of haymakers against an opponent he knows he holds an advantage over in the power department. 


    Boy you saw one beatdown of a football game.  I just saw the final.  Do you think that Petrino is regretting leaving the Falcons at all now?  Nutt looks like a genius for getting out while he could.

    Good luck tonight buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    Wish I was going to be around later to catch Inkin - Zuniga, but I'll be attending the UT - Arkansas game this afternoon and won't see it live.  This looks like the marquee matchup of the German triple headed, one that puts Calzaghe's vacated WBO super middleweight belt on the table -  a classic matchup of a boxer vs. a fighter.  I can't resist plus money (you can get him at +155 now at 5 dimes) on the rugged Colombian fighter here,  although a part of me realizes it's a bit suicidal to go against the Universum machine in what should be a very close war.  Inkin is a technically sound boxer, no doubt about it - but I can see what happened in the Bruer fight happening again today.  Zuniga can hit a lot harder than his opponent and I have a gut feeling he can score a dramatic late round KO this afternoon.  It's clearly not in his best interest to let this one go to the scorecards in Hamburg.  I read a Pavlik interview a while back where he said his 2 toughest opponents were Zuniga and Jose Luis Zertuche.  Zuniga canvased Pavlik in the 1st round of their fight en route to a 9th round KO loss and then was himself floored by Zertuche before he came back to win a split decision.  Zuniga's only other loss was to the gritty Daniel Santos.  This should be a close fight in the early rounds and I can see Inkin winning the first 3 or 4.  By the middle of the fight, I think Zuniga will landing more and more of his power shots causing Inkin to take an increasingly cautious approach.  If Inkin backs of his jab or at least slows it down, Zuniga might be able to hit paydirt with a series of haymakers against an opponent he knows he holds an advantage over in the power department. 


    Boy you saw one beatdown of a football game.  I just saw the final.  Do you think that Petrino is regretting leaving the Falcons at all now?  Nutt looks like a genius for getting out while he could.

    Good luck tonight buddy.
     
     
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    zuniga versus inkin.  you got robbed.

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/09/inkin-defeats-zuniga-wins-vacant-wbo-super-middleweight-belt
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    zuniga versus inkin.  you got robbed.

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/09/inkin-defeats-zuniga-wins-vacant-wbo-super-middleweight-belt
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