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    A2C
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 10:04 AM ET #1

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.

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    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.

     
    Atmanne
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 5:45 PM ET #2

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    capmaster2000
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 7:06 PM ET #3

    you've convinced me A2C. i'm on it very small. 
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    you've convinced me A2C. i'm on it very small. 
     
    EricLinny
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 9:25 PM ET #4

    GL man
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    GL man
     
    Cee_MoNeY
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 9:32 PM ET #5

    ive been off like crazy but personally i like gutierrez............did not bet it though since i dont feel like risking money on that fight......
     
    i like these a tad better
    32659535-1 5/22/09 9:27pm $230.00 $100.00 Pending 5/22/09 10:00pm  Boxing Fighting  402 Oliver McCall -230 vs John Hopoate 
    32659531-1 5/22/09 9:27pm $153.85 $200.00 Pending 5/22/09 10:00pm  Boxing Fighting  401 John Hopoate/Oliver McCall Over 5½ +130 
     
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    ive been off like crazy but personally i like gutierrez............did not bet it though since i dont feel like risking money on that fight......
     
    i like these a tad better
    32659535-1 5/22/09 9:27pm $230.00 $100.00 Pending 5/22/09 10:00pm  Boxing Fighting  402 Oliver McCall -230 vs John Hopoate 
    32659531-1 5/22/09 9:27pm $153.85 $200.00 Pending 5/22/09 10:00pm  Boxing Fighting  401 John Hopoate/Oliver McCall Over 5½ +130 
     
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 9:33 PM ET #6

    nevermind i lied i took gutierrez to win $200
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    nevermind i lied i took gutierrez to win $200
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 10:22 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.



    Obviously this is already past the pick of a fight, but Smith is doing something interesting.. he is using his left elbow as a defense, this is working great for him on the inside, but is useless on the outside because he will be susceptible to an uppercut!

    Again I love this on the inside using the elbow as a guard, but NOT from a distance.

    I see Gutiterez  being rather "slow" with his punches, seems as his muscles are making him "Push" his punches... this is early round 4 but if Smith keeps using that elbow from the outside he will be HURT badly by an uppercut, on the inside it works beautifully!Inside for SMITH with that elbow and he can win but he MUST NOT use that defense on the outside as it's inviting an uppercut all night. I think Smith can break down Gutierez and stop him if he keeps it on the inside!

    Good fight... for ESPN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.



    Obviously this is already past the pick of a fight, but Smith is doing something interesting.. he is using his left elbow as a defense, this is working great for him on the inside, but is useless on the outside because he will be susceptible to an uppercut!

    Again I love this on the inside using the elbow as a guard, but NOT from a distance.

    I see Gutiterez  being rather "slow" with his punches, seems as his muscles are making him "Push" his punches... this is early round 4 but if Smith keeps using that elbow from the outside he will be HURT badly by an uppercut, on the inside it works beautifully!Inside for SMITH with that elbow and he can win but he MUST NOT use that defense on the outside as it's inviting an uppercut all night. I think Smith can break down Gutierez and stop him if he keeps it on the inside!

    Good fight... for ESPN!
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 10:49 PM ET #8

    nice call.
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    nice call.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 10:51 PM ET #9

    A2C strikes again !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    A2C strikes again !!!!!!!!!!!!!


     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 10:54 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.



    I didn't see the first 2 rounds but  Smith WON every round from  3-10 he had Gutierez pretty much out on his feet since round 8, Guiterez was out of gas and had nothing.

    I really like Smith, this guy can ROLL punches, something I haven't seen in a long time. I want to see this guy again. I feel he may be avoided down the road because he has great defense, and can make people look bad and he lacks that money punch!

    I just seen the score cards.. 96-94? Was Guiterez's father scoring the fight? I didn't see the first 2 rounds but Smith WON rounds 3-10 EASILY he pounded Guiterez's to the body, I hope people saw that he was going VERY good to the BODY!

    This guy may not get a title shot at 147 because of the top dogs duking it out for the next few years but I can see Smith in a few years definitely holding a title!

    Congrats to A2c on BOTH wins and for bringing this fight to my attention, because SMITH is the real deal only 22 and I like what he offers.. just stuck in a 147 division that is jam packed right now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.



    I didn't see the first 2 rounds but  Smith WON every round from  3-10 he had Gutierez pretty much out on his feet since round 8, Guiterez was out of gas and had nothing.

    I really like Smith, this guy can ROLL punches, something I haven't seen in a long time. I want to see this guy again. I feel he may be avoided down the road because he has great defense, and can make people look bad and he lacks that money punch!

    I just seen the score cards.. 96-94? Was Guiterez's father scoring the fight? I didn't see the first 2 rounds but Smith WON rounds 3-10 EASILY he pounded Guiterez's to the body, I hope people saw that he was going VERY good to the BODY!

    This guy may not get a title shot at 147 because of the top dogs duking it out for the next few years but I can see Smith in a few years definitely holding a title!

    Congrats to A2c on BOTH wins and for bringing this fight to my attention, because SMITH is the real deal only 22 and I like what he offers.. just stuck in a 147 division that is jam packed right now!


     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 10:59 PM ET #11

    Nice fight by Smith, and good pick A2C.  I had Smith, and if my book offered it, I would've surely gone with you on the decision as well.  Good job. 
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    Nice fight by Smith, and good pick A2C.  I had Smith, and if my book offered it, I would've surely gone with you on the decision as well.  Good job. 
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2009 - 11:18 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.

    good hit man.....told you im running bad right now.........congrats....

     

    room for thought......i seems like in every -150 +120 type fight the dog wins....swear to god its been like 14 in a row

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    2007: +12.45 units
    2008: +25.3 units
    2009: +12.81 units

    Antwone Smith vs. Richard Gutierrerz
    Smith +125 (Bodog), 0.75 unit
    Smith by 10 Round Decision +397 (5Dimes), 0.25 unit


    Gutierrez seems to have lost a bit of his zeal for boxing since getting knocked out in a brutal contest against hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo.  Since that loss, Gutierrez has only had one other fight (in July 2008), and that was a disappointing draw to journeyman Jerome Ellis.  If Gutierrez was serious about his boxing career, he would have scheduled something after that setback to restore his confidence.  Instead, he's matched up tonight against the surging and active Antwone Smith, who is eight years younger and has already fought twice in 2009.  Smith isn't a particularly hard hitter, but he's quick with good boxing skills.  In fights that are essentially "even money" on paper, the guy who wants it the most usually ends up the winner.  I see Smith as being that guy on the rise who won't be denied tonight.  Also, I'm throwing a bone at the decision prop because I see that as the likeliest of outcomes given that Smith isn't a big puncher, and Gutierrez' only KO loss came against Angulo.  Since Gutierrez has some firepower, Smith will likely employ a box-and-move strategy to avoid the possibility of getting caught.

    good hit man.....told you im running bad right now.........congrats....

     

    room for thought......i seems like in every -150 +120 type fight the dog wins....swear to god its been like 14 in a row

     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2009 - 12:50 AM ET #13

    Thank you A2C, your analysis was the sole thing I went on tonight.  Wish I would have wagered the 10 round decision as well.
     
    Great boxing insight on this site, especially when it comes to finding the winning dogs.
     
    Keep up the great insight.
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    Thank you A2C, your analysis was the sole thing I went on tonight.  Wish I would have wagered the 10 round decision as well.
     
    Great boxing insight on this site, especially when it comes to finding the winning dogs.
     
    Keep up the great insight.
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2009 - 6:54 AM ET #14

    Nice hit!!=====
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    Nice hit!!=====
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2009 - 5:30 PM ET #15


    Anybody like Jhonny Gonzalez today?
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    Anybody like Jhonny Gonzalez today?
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2009 - 6:09 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by getmeresult:


    Anybody like Jhonny Gonzalez today?

    i do but im running bad......I say parlay johnny gonzales with ufc pat berry at -320 and with alfredo angulo.............i would add berto if you really like him....all 4 should hit unless berto plays retard to the one handed urango.....cintron is shit on a stick....berry is a obsolute beast and i personally took him straight up for 3 bills

    the chino is fighting in mexico and on top of that his only top opposition he faced he went 0-2-2....johnny gonalzales is good enough to beat a challenger like him but against actual top opposition he faulters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getmeresult:


    Anybody like Jhonny Gonzalez today?

    i do but im running bad......I say parlay johnny gonzales with ufc pat berry at -320 and with alfredo angulo.............i would add berto if you really like him....all 4 should hit unless berto plays retard to the one handed urango.....cintron is shit on a stick....berry is a obsolute beast and i personally took him straight up for 3 bills

    the chino is fighting in mexico and on top of that his only top opposition he faced he went 0-2-2....johnny gonalzales is good enough to beat a challenger like him but against actual top opposition he faulters.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    i do but im running bad......I say parlay johnny gonzales with ufc pat berry at -320 and with alfredo angulo.............i would add berto if you really like him....all 4 should hit unless berto plays retard to the one handed urango.....cintron is shit on a stick....berry is a obsolute beast and i personally took him straight up for 3 bills

    the chino is fighting in mexico and on top of that his only top opposition he faced he went 0-2-2....johnny gonalzales is good enough to beat a challenger like him but against actual top opposition he faulters.


    Thanks for the info Cee, I like Gonzalez and I really like Machida tonight, I have time on Machida but the Gonzalez fight going off at 7pm EST at my book. 

    Are we the only 2 that likes him?

      GL with Pat Barry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    i do but im running bad......I say parlay johnny gonzales with ufc pat berry at -320 and with alfredo angulo.............i would add berto if you really like him....all 4 should hit unless berto plays retard to the one handed urango.....cintron is shit on a stick....berry is a obsolute beast and i personally took him straight up for 3 bills

    the chino is fighting in mexico and on top of that his only top opposition he faced he went 0-2-2....johnny gonalzales is good enough to beat a challenger like him but against actual top opposition he faulters.


    Thanks for the info Cee, I like Gonzalez and I really like Machida tonight, I have time on Machida but the Gonzalez fight going off at 7pm EST at my book. 

    Are we the only 2 that likes him?

      GL with Pat Barry.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by getmeresult:


    Thanks for the info Cee, I like Gonzalez and I really like Machida tonight, I have time on Machida but the Gonzalez fight going off at 7pm EST at my book. 

    Are we the only 2 that likes him?

      GL with Pat Barry.

    THANKS I ALSO HAVE THIS RUNNING

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by getmeresult:


    Thanks for the info Cee, I like Gonzalez and I really like Machida tonight, I have time on Machida but the Gonzalez fight going off at 7pm EST at my book. 

    Are we the only 2 that likes him?

      GL with Pat Barry.

    THANKS I ALSO HAVE THIS RUNNING

     

    32683664-1 5/23/09 2:35pm $350.00 $646.47 Pending 2 Team Parlay
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    Pending 5/23/09 7:45pm  UFC Fighting  346 Pat Barry -340 vs Tim Hague 

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    Posted: May. 23, 2009 - 9:05 PM ET #19

    kinda tough to pick against Evans.....But how do you pick him.....If you like vaule I personally have alot of faith in Matt sierra as a dog........Alot of faith
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    kinda tough to pick against Evans.....But how do you pick him.....If you like vaule I personally have alot of faith in Matt sierra as a dog........Alot of faith
     
     
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    I hear you, but I hate Matt Serra.  I have to root for Hughes.
    I took Gonzalez for a few units and Machida for a few.
    Good luck.
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    I hear you, but I hate Matt Serra.  I have to root for Hughes.
    I took Gonzalez for a few units and Machida for a few.
    Good luck.
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