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    Vitali Klitschko ripe for the picking

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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 10:59 AM ET #1

    Vitali Klitschko looks horrible. Is that boxing? What do you call what he was doing yesterday?..Clumsily pawing oponants, barely moving his head and body and telegraphing big punches like a robot.  He's the modern day Primo Canera. I've seen better fighters in Tough Guy competitions and even with fighting bums I just can't imagine him being a Champion for very much longer.

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    Vitali Klitschko looks horrible. Is that boxing? What do you call what he was doing yesterday?..Clumsily pawing oponants, barely moving his head and body and telegraphing big punches like a robot.  He's the modern day Primo Canera. I've seen better fighters in Tough Guy competitions and even with fighting bums I just can't imagine him being a Champion for very much longer.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #2

    What you saw was a crusier weight who barely makes heavy weight fighting a SUPER Heavy Weight.

    Kevin Johnson reminds you of someone? James Toney, no boxer I've seen can roll punches the way Kevin Johnson did, that's a throw back style.

    Sadly Kevin Johnson didn't return any punches besides a few jabs.

    Klitcho fought the SAME EXACT fight  he did against Arreola, look at the replay, except Areola got HIT with those punches.

    There was NOTHING Klitcho could do, he tried everything.. rarely will you see a fighter like Kevin Johnson.

    Sadly for Kevin Johnson his stock went DOWN, NO ONE wants to fight a guy who rolls punches and makes you look bad. Reason why we watch heavy weights is because of the Knockouts, with Kevin Johnson a KO is very unlikely.. on BOTH sides.

    They can fight 5,000 times the outcome would be the same, bound to happen when two guys are in different weight classes.

    I still believe Eddie Chambers is our best chance at beating one of the Klitchos... he has the speed, the jab, good defense, and great movement.                                 
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    What you saw was a crusier weight who barely makes heavy weight fighting a SUPER Heavy Weight.

    Kevin Johnson reminds you of someone? James Toney, no boxer I've seen can roll punches the way Kevin Johnson did, that's a throw back style.

    Sadly Kevin Johnson didn't return any punches besides a few jabs.

    Klitcho fought the SAME EXACT fight  he did against Arreola, look at the replay, except Areola got HIT with those punches.

    There was NOTHING Klitcho could do, he tried everything.. rarely will you see a fighter like Kevin Johnson.

    Sadly for Kevin Johnson his stock went DOWN, NO ONE wants to fight a guy who rolls punches and makes you look bad. Reason why we watch heavy weights is because of the Knockouts, with Kevin Johnson a KO is very unlikely.. on BOTH sides.

    They can fight 5,000 times the outcome would be the same, bound to happen when two guys are in different weight classes.

    I still believe Eddie Chambers is our best chance at beating one of the Klitchos... he has the speed, the jab, good defense, and great movement.                                 
     
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    I disagree with most of the ^ post. I thought Vitali looked out of shape and don't think he prepared well if at all. He was real lazy with leaving the right hand out there and very rarely put the left hook after the right, which was wide open and would have ended the fight. Who knows...maybe maybe Vitali had the over...lol.

    Johnson needs to hang it up with the 9 Ko's...he's making Byrd look like a killer. he didn't come to fight at all and looked like his game plan was to not get knocked out and cash a career check.

    I don't consider that a normal Vitali performance.
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    I disagree with most of the ^ post. I thought Vitali looked out of shape and don't think he prepared well if at all. He was real lazy with leaving the right hand out there and very rarely put the left hook after the right, which was wide open and would have ended the fight. Who knows...maybe maybe Vitali had the over...lol.

    Johnson needs to hang it up with the 9 Ko's...he's making Byrd look like a killer. he didn't come to fight at all and looked like his game plan was to not get knocked out and cash a career check.

    I don't consider that a normal Vitali performance.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    I disagree with most of the ^ post. I thought Vitali looked out of shape and don't think he prepared well if at all. He was real lazy with leaving the right hand out there and very rarely put the left hook after the right, which was wide open and would have ended the fight. Who knows...maybe maybe Vitali had the over...lol.

    Johnson needs to hang it up with the 9 Ko's...he's making Byrd look like a killer. he didn't come to fight at all and looked like his game plan was to not get knocked out and cash a career check.

    I don't consider that a normal Vitali performance.


    Vitali in my eyes never faced a Kevin Johnson, (who probably makes most of his money as a sparring partner being he never really tried to HIT Klitcho back).

    You have to admit though yes Vitali  looked bad and Vitali was VERY frustrated, he wanted badly to finish Johnson, guess what Johnson did well defensively (laid on the ropes, yet didn't take a punch). It's not like he was RUNNING.

    Like I said before Johnson's stock went down, and well in my eyes Vitali's stock went down too, he was head hunting.. never went for the body.. as an 18-1 favorite the man is NOT supposed to be standing there when the final bell rings.

    It's why I DIDN'T bet the ITD because it seemed too good to be true, 18-1 favorite yet 2-1 by KO and 36 of 37 fights before Johnson.. were Ko's ... yet only 2-1.. it didn't seem right to me.

    I didn't know much about Kevin Johnson, I knew he was defensive minded, but he took it to a whole new level.

    You know they showed the replay .. after the Diaz fight in FULL.. Lennox said watching that made him think for about 10 minutes to come out of retirement.. and fight again then he laughed and said he will stay retired.

    Odd thing is.. I believe if Vitali would have Ko'd Johnson, Lennox MAY have come out to fight him, but since Vitali let an 18-1 favorite hang around... that further cemented Lennox to stay retired.

    Think about it Vitali had 4 years off he's what 38? He fought Sam Peter who came in about 275 looking for one last pay check, he had a stationary target, then Arreola, the closest you can get to a punching bag as you CAN.

    Let's go Eddie Chambers :-)      
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    I disagree with most of the ^ post. I thought Vitali looked out of shape and don't think he prepared well if at all. He was real lazy with leaving the right hand out there and very rarely put the left hook after the right, which was wide open and would have ended the fight. Who knows...maybe maybe Vitali had the over...lol.

    Johnson needs to hang it up with the 9 Ko's...he's making Byrd look like a killer. he didn't come to fight at all and looked like his game plan was to not get knocked out and cash a career check.

    I don't consider that a normal Vitali performance.


    Vitali in my eyes never faced a Kevin Johnson, (who probably makes most of his money as a sparring partner being he never really tried to HIT Klitcho back).

    You have to admit though yes Vitali  looked bad and Vitali was VERY frustrated, he wanted badly to finish Johnson, guess what Johnson did well defensively (laid on the ropes, yet didn't take a punch). It's not like he was RUNNING.

    Like I said before Johnson's stock went down, and well in my eyes Vitali's stock went down too, he was head hunting.. never went for the body.. as an 18-1 favorite the man is NOT supposed to be standing there when the final bell rings.

    It's why I DIDN'T bet the ITD because it seemed too good to be true, 18-1 favorite yet 2-1 by KO and 36 of 37 fights before Johnson.. were Ko's ... yet only 2-1.. it didn't seem right to me.

    I didn't know much about Kevin Johnson, I knew he was defensive minded, but he took it to a whole new level.

    You know they showed the replay .. after the Diaz fight in FULL.. Lennox said watching that made him think for about 10 minutes to come out of retirement.. and fight again then he laughed and said he will stay retired.

    Odd thing is.. I believe if Vitali would have Ko'd Johnson, Lennox MAY have come out to fight him, but since Vitali let an 18-1 favorite hang around... that further cemented Lennox to stay retired.

    Think about it Vitali had 4 years off he's what 38? He fought Sam Peter who came in about 275 looking for one last pay check, he had a stationary target, then Arreola, the closest you can get to a punching bag as you CAN.

    Let's go Eddie Chambers :-)      
     
     
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    I thought Tyrel Biggs was gonna get Tyson, Douglas got him a few fights later, I thought Arreola was gonna get Klitcho, the next guy probably will. I don't know what you call what he's doing out there, but I don't think it's boxing.
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    I thought Tyrel Biggs was gonna get Tyson, Douglas got him a few fights later, I thought Arreola was gonna get Klitcho, the next guy probably will. I don't know what you call what he's doing out there, but I don't think it's boxing.
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