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    Thursday Pick -- Seeger vs. Oliver

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2007 - 7:45 PM ET #1

    Al Seeger vs. Mike Oliver
    +285
    .35 unit
    (to win 1 unit)

    YTD: 37.36 units risked, +12.92 units
     
    I'm throwing this out there right before the match because Oliver really shouldn't be favored this high against his most dangerous opponent to date.  After Oliver struggled against Gary Stark, Jr., earlier this year, many insiders thought that he might have problems with the aggressive style of Cruz Carvajal.  But after a round in which Carvajal seemed to be on the verge of taking control of the bout, he stopped throwing punches and allowed Oliver to chase him around the ring for the rest of the fight.  Carvajal then inexplicably celebrated with his corner after making it through the tenth and final round.  There was no way that they thought they had won the fight.  Instead, I suspect that Carvajal placed a wager on the fight going the distance, as it was likely his final TV bout (and, thus, one last chance to make a big purse by wagering on a public event).  So, I don't think that Oliver's answered any of the questions that surfaced after his poor performance against Stark.  Stark happened to get KO'd by journeyman Andre Ledesma in his next fight after nearly beating Oliver.  Seeger (27-2, with 21 KO's) is better than Ledesma, but I'm still not sure whether Oliver's any better than Stark.  The bookmakers don't seem to think there's a parallel between Oliver's and Stark's career, but I think there's enough of a chance to make this a good value play.  Of course, Seeger has to KO Oliver, as he has very little chance of scoring a points win in Oliver's home state of Connecticut.

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    Al Seeger vs. Mike Oliver
    +285
    .35 unit
    (to win 1 unit)

    YTD: 37.36 units risked, +12.92 units
     
    I'm throwing this out there right before the match because Oliver really shouldn't be favored this high against his most dangerous opponent to date.  After Oliver struggled against Gary Stark, Jr., earlier this year, many insiders thought that he might have problems with the aggressive style of Cruz Carvajal.  But after a round in which Carvajal seemed to be on the verge of taking control of the bout, he stopped throwing punches and allowed Oliver to chase him around the ring for the rest of the fight.  Carvajal then inexplicably celebrated with his corner after making it through the tenth and final round.  There was no way that they thought they had won the fight.  Instead, I suspect that Carvajal placed a wager on the fight going the distance, as it was likely his final TV bout (and, thus, one last chance to make a big purse by wagering on a public event).  So, I don't think that Oliver's answered any of the questions that surfaced after his poor performance against Stark.  Stark happened to get KO'd by journeyman Andre Ledesma in his next fight after nearly beating Oliver.  Seeger (27-2, with 21 KO's) is better than Ledesma, but I'm still not sure whether Oliver's any better than Stark.  The bookmakers don't seem to think there's a parallel between Oliver's and Stark's career, but I think there's enough of a chance to make this a good value play.  Of course, Seeger has to KO Oliver, as he has very little chance of scoring a points win in Oliver's home state of Connecticut.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2007 - 12:21 AM ET #2

    Al Seeger vs. Mike Oliver
    +285
    -.35 unit 


    YTD: 37.71 units risked, +12.92 units

    Seeger lost by unanimous decision, but the scores were relatively close (112-115, 113-114, and 111-116).  It sounds like another blah Oliver performance. 
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    Al Seeger vs. Mike Oliver
    +285
    -.35 unit 


    YTD: 37.71 units risked, +12.92 units

    Seeger lost by unanimous decision, but the scores were relatively close (112-115, 113-114, and 111-116).  It sounds like another blah Oliver performance. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2007 - 11:26 AM ET #3

    Interesting....
     
    Do we have an alias/dual identity here?  A2C=perricm?
     
    Regardless your math is off, forgot to subtract.
     
    I am not high on Oliver either, he will be beat stepping up.  There was some value in that line you got.
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    Interesting....
     
    Do we have an alias/dual identity here?  A2C=perricm?
     
    Regardless your math is off, forgot to subtract.
     
    I am not high on Oliver either, he will be beat stepping up.  There was some value in that line you got.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2007 - 3:55 PM ET #4

    Thanks again, FB.  Oh, the dangers of drinking and typing.  I promise this is the last time I screw it up.

    YTD: 37.71 units risked, +12.37 units

    Not a dual identity, but perricm's a close friend who introduced me to the site.  We were chilin' for Mavs-Warriors last night, and I didn't realize he was still logged in...I'm a bit more of a boxing fanatic, while he's big into football and basketball.
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    Thanks again, FB.  Oh, the dangers of drinking and typing.  I promise this is the last time I screw it up.

    YTD: 37.71 units risked, +12.37 units

    Not a dual identity, but perricm's a close friend who introduced me to the site.  We were chilin' for Mavs-Warriors last night, and I didn't realize he was still logged in...I'm a bit more of a boxing fanatic, while he's big into football and basketball.
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