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    Sources: Congressman Pacquiao to fight Gangster wannabe Mayweather in Nov. in Vegas

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    RichardA
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 11:31 AM ET #1

    Steve Wynn building an outdoor arena just for this event.

    Yep, looks like it's  a go, lads.  

    According to this tweet from TV.com sports reporter Molly E. Sullivan, the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight of myth and legend is suddenly becoming real; all set for late November in Las Vegas. Sullivan:

    Lunch update from my #1 source in Vegas: Pacquio/Mayweather IS happening late Nov... Steve Wynn is building an outdoor venue just for fight.

    Remember the days when news like this was reported by TV sports anchors with enormous hair?

    Anyway, this fight appears to be on. Who ya got?

    When last we left this fun couple, Mayweather's people were accusing Pacquiao of using steroids, and the Pacquiao camp was threatening to sue Mayweather for defamation. The two couldn't agree on when and where to conduct pre-fight and after-fight drug testing, and things devolved into both fighters calling each other poo-poo heads.

    Since then (around Christmas time of last year), Pacquiao was elected to the Philippines House of Representatives, and then defeated Joshua Clottey for the IBF World Welterweight title. And Mayweather beat Shane Mosley for the WBA World Welterweight title.

    The telling numbers were these: Pacquiao got only 700,000 pay per view buys for his fight with Clottey, a relatively small number for a fighter of his stature. Mayweather-Mosely got 1.4 million. So perhaps now Manny is willing to be a little more flexible with the drug testing demands? Maybe.

    https://bleacherreport.com/tb/b4JYt

     

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    Steve Wynn building an outdoor arena just for this event.

    Yep, looks like it's  a go, lads.  

    According to this tweet from TV.com sports reporter Molly E. Sullivan, the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight of myth and legend is suddenly becoming real; all set for late November in Las Vegas. Sullivan:

    Lunch update from my #1 source in Vegas: Pacquio/Mayweather IS happening late Nov... Steve Wynn is building an outdoor venue just for fight.

    Remember the days when news like this was reported by TV sports anchors with enormous hair?

    Anyway, this fight appears to be on. Who ya got?

    When last we left this fun couple, Mayweather's people were accusing Pacquiao of using steroids, and the Pacquiao camp was threatening to sue Mayweather for defamation. The two couldn't agree on when and where to conduct pre-fight and after-fight drug testing, and things devolved into both fighters calling each other poo-poo heads.

    Since then (around Christmas time of last year), Pacquiao was elected to the Philippines House of Representatives, and then defeated Joshua Clottey for the IBF World Welterweight title. And Mayweather beat Shane Mosley for the WBA World Welterweight title.

    The telling numbers were these: Pacquiao got only 700,000 pay per view buys for his fight with Clottey, a relatively small number for a fighter of his stature. Mayweather-Mosely got 1.4 million. So perhaps now Manny is willing to be a little more flexible with the drug testing demands? Maybe.

    https://bleacherreport.com/tb/b4JYt

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 5:27 PM ET #2

    When I see them at the weigh in I might start to get a little excited. I am sick to death of talk about this fight...

    There are too many disagreements I think for this to happen..

    1) Drug Testing

    2) Share of the purse

    I can't see how these 2 pivotal issues can be resolved. Going to say it now. Never going to happen, Screw them both

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    When I see them at the weigh in I might start to get a little excited. I am sick to death of talk about this fight...

    There are too many disagreements I think for this to happen..

    1) Drug Testing

    2) Share of the purse

    I can't see how these 2 pivotal issues can be resolved. Going to say it now. Never going to happen, Screw them both

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 5:30 PM ET #3

    I love these 'sources'. I slept with a hooker, whose sister is a housekeeper at Mayweathers house and she overheard him saying that he will never fight Manny Pacquaio...

    That story like any 'source' story is bullsh!t. I am sick to death of all this. I don't care who is at fault anymore they should both be shot for not making this

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    I love these 'sources'. I slept with a hooker, whose sister is a housekeeper at Mayweathers house and she overheard him saying that he will never fight Manny Pacquaio...

    That story like any 'source' story is bullsh!t. I am sick to death of all this. I don't care who is at fault anymore they should both be shot for not making this

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 8:07 PM ET #4

    not quite ready to book my flight to vegas yet based on this breaking news ,,but it would be sweet,,really hard to fathom that we would hear this news first from a prospect on the covers forum, but thanks for the info
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    not quite ready to book my flight to vegas yet based on this breaking news ,,but it would be sweet,,really hard to fathom that we would hear this news first from a prospect on the covers forum, but thanks for the info
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 3:13 AM ET #5

    Purse isn't an issue, 50/50 is the only way to go.

    The sheer amount of cash they will generate from PPV will be enough for these men to retire.

    Money isn't the issue, just the drug testing.

    Like everyone else I'm sick and tired of BOTH GUYS just get it on already.

    My feeling is if Manny doesn't Cave in to Demands for a Nov fight, this will never happen.

    This MUST happen in 2010 and no later.

    Think about it, Mayweather has NO reason to change his stance on the blood testing what he's asking for it "fair" to both fighters.

    Now if Manny gives in, one has to question why he didn't do it in the first place what has changed? His superstitions of being weak before a fight, his religious beliefs?

    I hope this fight happens, if it doesn't Floyd will retire and Manny will fight Margarito and retire.

    Personally there is NO ONE at 147 besides these two guys that could generate any buzz.

    Andre Berto hasn't panned out as planned, the rest of the guys are B-C level fighters or past their prime.

    Like everyone else, I wouldn't get my hopes up until I their signatures are on the dotted line.

    Sadly we don't have much in the next few weeks boxing wise so I guess this will be talked about.

    This is all I have to say personally both of these men are making this look like a circus.

    JUST FIGHT!

           


     
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    Purse isn't an issue, 50/50 is the only way to go.

    The sheer amount of cash they will generate from PPV will be enough for these men to retire.

    Money isn't the issue, just the drug testing.

    Like everyone else I'm sick and tired of BOTH GUYS just get it on already.

    My feeling is if Manny doesn't Cave in to Demands for a Nov fight, this will never happen.

    This MUST happen in 2010 and no later.

    Think about it, Mayweather has NO reason to change his stance on the blood testing what he's asking for it "fair" to both fighters.

    Now if Manny gives in, one has to question why he didn't do it in the first place what has changed? His superstitions of being weak before a fight, his religious beliefs?

    I hope this fight happens, if it doesn't Floyd will retire and Manny will fight Margarito and retire.

    Personally there is NO ONE at 147 besides these two guys that could generate any buzz.

    Andre Berto hasn't panned out as planned, the rest of the guys are B-C level fighters or past their prime.

    Like everyone else, I wouldn't get my hopes up until I their signatures are on the dotted line.

    Sadly we don't have much in the next few weeks boxing wise so I guess this will be talked about.

    This is all I have to say personally both of these men are making this look like a circus.

    JUST FIGHT!

           


     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 5:17 AM ET #6

    Rich that is not exactly true. Manny agreed to the drug testing and now Mayweather has asked for 60/40 because of the bigger PPV numbers he has generated. Pacquaio has refused to budge on this. I don't see it happening
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    Rich that is not exactly true. Manny agreed to the drug testing and now Mayweather has asked for 60/40 because of the bigger PPV numbers he has generated. Pacquaio has refused to budge on this. I don't see it happening
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 6:05 AM ET #7

    It will happen. Just to much $$$$ involved, for too many people..Not to happen. I use to be a big Pac-Man fan but now I am convinced that he is cheating. The evidence speaks for itself. In a fair, clean fight I'm not giving him a great chance of beating Mayweather. This is exactly the opposite of what I believed just 1 year ago. Pac-Man's improvement was just too drastic too be on the natch...Roach or no Roach. Without the juice..he will be mind-F--ked. And the mental can never be underestimated at this level of competition.
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    It will happen. Just to much $$$$ involved, for too many people..Not to happen. I use to be a big Pac-Man fan but now I am convinced that he is cheating. The evidence speaks for itself. In a fair, clean fight I'm not giving him a great chance of beating Mayweather. This is exactly the opposite of what I believed just 1 year ago. Pac-Man's improvement was just too drastic too be on the natch...Roach or no Roach. Without the juice..he will be mind-F--ked. And the mental can never be underestimated at this level of competition.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 7:52 AM ET #8

    I think Pacquaio is clean. I just think he is an extremely dedicated fighter. The things he does to numb himself from pain are quite frankly sickening to watch. I also don't believe EPO or other substances CANNOT help you take a punch. Yes they can make you train harder, go harder etc but punch resistance is something you have or you don't and PED's do not improve it. Trust me, I was a decent fighter with a cast iron jaw. An old mate of mine who was a more gifted fighter then me, could never beat me because he couldn't take a punch. He would be miles ahead on points but if he got caught flush he's go down. He ended up taking illegal stuff (I only found out years later and no longer speak to him because of this) and his chin didn't improve one iota.

    Now of course Pacman could be cheating. You can never say never but, I would rather be on the side of innocent until proved guilty. Pacquaio's improvements. I haven't seen any to be honest, except he seems to take a punch better (as stated above, Drugs can't help this). The level of opposition has dropped, that's why he now looks so good. Oscar was out of his mind to try make 147. David Diaz! please! Ricky Hatton is the most over rated world champion I can think of and Cotto was shot, with a bad trainer. Clottley never came to fight. These guys would not undo the laces of a Barrera, Morales or Juan M Marquez.

    If the fight is made and Pacquaio agrees to testing, his level and workrate won't drop that I guarentee you. Floyd will win as he is just too smart for Manny but Pacquaio will keep coming and keep getting counter punched until Floyd stops him late..Look at the trouble Marquez gave Pacquaio. Floyd is a bigger, faster, better version of Marquez. The more I think of it the more I think Floyd rolls here after a dodgy first 3-4 rounds.

    This debate will never end and its been done to death here and on other sites.

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    I think Pacquaio is clean. I just think he is an extremely dedicated fighter. The things he does to numb himself from pain are quite frankly sickening to watch. I also don't believe EPO or other substances CANNOT help you take a punch. Yes they can make you train harder, go harder etc but punch resistance is something you have or you don't and PED's do not improve it. Trust me, I was a decent fighter with a cast iron jaw. An old mate of mine who was a more gifted fighter then me, could never beat me because he couldn't take a punch. He would be miles ahead on points but if he got caught flush he's go down. He ended up taking illegal stuff (I only found out years later and no longer speak to him because of this) and his chin didn't improve one iota.

    Now of course Pacman could be cheating. You can never say never but, I would rather be on the side of innocent until proved guilty. Pacquaio's improvements. I haven't seen any to be honest, except he seems to take a punch better (as stated above, Drugs can't help this). The level of opposition has dropped, that's why he now looks so good. Oscar was out of his mind to try make 147. David Diaz! please! Ricky Hatton is the most over rated world champion I can think of and Cotto was shot, with a bad trainer. Clottley never came to fight. These guys would not undo the laces of a Barrera, Morales or Juan M Marquez.

    If the fight is made and Pacquaio agrees to testing, his level and workrate won't drop that I guarentee you. Floyd will win as he is just too smart for Manny but Pacquaio will keep coming and keep getting counter punched until Floyd stops him late..Look at the trouble Marquez gave Pacquaio. Floyd is a bigger, faster, better version of Marquez. The more I think of it the more I think Floyd rolls here after a dodgy first 3-4 rounds.

    This debate will never end and its been done to death here and on other sites.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:07 PM ET #9

    Pac-Man's team sent a letter to the Mayweather camp asking what the penalty would be (financially) if his results came back dirty during last year's negotiations. Does this sound like something a clean fighter would do? This was reported by Teddy Atlas who claimed to have a copy of the E-mail (or letter). That;s enough proof to me.
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    Pac-Man's team sent a letter to the Mayweather camp asking what the penalty would be (financially) if his results came back dirty during last year's negotiations. Does this sound like something a clean fighter would do? This was reported by Teddy Atlas who claimed to have a copy of the E-mail (or letter). That;s enough proof to me.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 2:59 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

    Pac-Man's team sent a letter to the Mayweather camp asking what the penalty would be (financially) if his results came back dirty during last year's negotiations. Does this sound like something a clean fighter would do? This was reported by Teddy Atlas who claimed to have a copy of the E-mail (or letter). That;s enough proof to me.

    Yeah I saw that rubbish on youtube. There is no much incorrect stuff there I am not even going to try get into that. Your entitled to your opininon. I am not going down this road today....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

    Pac-Man's team sent a letter to the Mayweather camp asking what the penalty would be (financially) if his results came back dirty during last year's negotiations. Does this sound like something a clean fighter would do? This was reported by Teddy Atlas who claimed to have a copy of the E-mail (or letter). That;s enough proof to me.

    Yeah I saw that rubbish on youtube. There is no much incorrect stuff there I am not even going to try get into that. Your entitled to your opininon. I am not going down this road today....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2010 - 3:53 AM ET #11

    Cottos got a trainer now. Intresting.
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    Cottos got a trainer now. Intresting.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 12:13 AM ET #12

    I slept with Pacquiao's nanny and she overheard Pacman was saying he's afraid of PBF coz' he's too fast and clever fighter and also she got a copy of an e-mail  Pacman admitting taking PED'ds since he started boxing 15 yrs ago.....
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    I slept with Pacquiao's nanny and she overheard Pacman was saying he's afraid of PBF coz' he's too fast and clever fighter and also she got a copy of an e-mail  Pacman admitting taking PED'ds since he started boxing 15 yrs ago.....
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 11:25 PM ET #13

    If Pacman's clean, then do the test already!  What's there to dilly-dally about?

    Re: purse, fuck them both if they keep nitpicking.  Go 50/50 and just prove what their coaches are claiming, that each is the best fighter pound-for-pound
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    If Pacman's clean, then do the test already!  What's there to dilly-dally about?

    Re: purse, fuck them both if they keep nitpicking.  Go 50/50 and just prove what their coaches are claiming, that each is the best fighter pound-for-pound
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