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    Showtime: V.Klits coming back vs. Sammy Pete; and Dawson vs. Tarver:

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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 4:40 PM ET #1

    Who you gots?

    Been a while since I've be back to Covers. But I am amped all the way up for this one.

    How healthy is VK (trick knee, bad back, shoulder tear)?
    How much WD-4o can 1 Training Camp going on 4 years later really strip off?
    How much has Sammy Pete filled out in becoming anything approaching a complete Heavyweight? Will he only club, throw wideA meathooks?
    Can SP stand this much of a Height & Reach disadvantage and get close enough to fell the Klitschko with the better beard?
    What about scoring over in the Deutschland?

    Then there is "Bad" Chad vs. A.Tarver. Is AT now officially over the hill? Will this be the AT who is pretty tough when he is dialed-in?

    What say you???

    TIA
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    Who you gots?

    Been a while since I've be back to Covers. But I am amped all the way up for this one.

    How healthy is VK (trick knee, bad back, shoulder tear)?
    How much WD-4o can 1 Training Camp going on 4 years later really strip off?
    How much has Sammy Pete filled out in becoming anything approaching a complete Heavyweight? Will he only club, throw wideA meathooks?
    Can SP stand this much of a Height & Reach disadvantage and get close enough to fell the Klitschko with the better beard?
    What about scoring over in the Deutschland?

    Then there is "Bad" Chad vs. A.Tarver. Is AT now officially over the hill? Will this be the AT who is pretty tough when he is dialed-in?

    What say you???

    TIA
    bigeiii
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 4:43 PM ET #2

    you already know where i'm at.


    what about you?
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    you already know where i'm at.


    what about you?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 5:25 PM ET #3

    I want to see where SP weighs in. I've seen Inet whispers that he is undertrained. But if SP is right; I will prolly fade my closing Parlay on VK a bit with an SP ITD play. I'm dubious SP gets the nod on closerounds in a Klitschko backed promo and with Jerry judges to begin with; and on top of that, I saw a report that said the Peter camp is just gonna try to bomb old and rusty VK right on out from the get go.

    I have CD in with a football parlay for this week. Just as a pure side.

    HTH's
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    I want to see where SP weighs in. I've seen Inet whispers that he is undertrained. But if SP is right; I will prolly fade my closing Parlay on VK a bit with an SP ITD play. I'm dubious SP gets the nod on closerounds in a Klitschko backed promo and with Jerry judges to begin with; and on top of that, I saw a report that said the Peter camp is just gonna try to bomb old and rusty VK right on out from the get go.

    I have CD in with a football parlay for this week. Just as a pure side.

    HTH's
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 5:54 PM ET #4

    somehow i can't imagine peter is undertrained for this.  there was a write up that said he was in germany for more than the last month preparing for the fight... unless he was goofin' around up until he went to there... 


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    somehow i can't imagine peter is undertrained for this.  there was a write up that said he was in germany for more than the last month preparing for the fight... unless he was goofin' around up until he went to there... 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:46 AM ET #5

    translation please
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    translation please
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:22 AM ET #6




    looking forward to saturday big......






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    looking forward to saturday big......






     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:25 AM ET #7

    a shit ton of money on the klitschko peter fight...  my book accepting at least 2000 base bets already
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    a shit ton of money on the klitschko peter fight...  my book accepting at least 2000 base bets already
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:59 AM ET #8

    Vitaly=247.
    Sammy=254.

    Sammy does not look real flabby, he is up a touch in weight. VK looks like you would expect.

    HTH's
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    Vitaly=247.
    Sammy=254.

    Sammy does not look real flabby, he is up a touch in weight. VK looks like you would expect.

    HTH's
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:30 PM ET #9

    Is this one of those Vietnamese threads that often get posted in the general discussion forums?  cause this guy makes no sense
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    Is this one of those Vietnamese threads that often get posted in the general discussion forums?  cause this guy makes no sense
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:33 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Vitaly=247.
    Sammy=254.

    Sammy does not look real flabby, he is up a touch in weight. VK looks like you would expect.

    HTH's
    bigeiii


    big, i'm not hedging unless a ton of money shoes for klitschko who i got at -160.  i don't see it getting much wider than -230 at most and probably will actually bounce back from where it is at -210.  klitschko is going to win this


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Vitaly=247.
    Sammy=254.

    Sammy does not look real flabby, he is up a touch in weight. VK looks like you would expect.

    HTH's
    bigeiii


    big, i'm not hedging unless a ton of money shoes for klitschko who i got at -160.  i don't see it getting much wider than -230 at most and probably will actually bounce back from where it is at -210.  klitschko is going to win this


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 5:04 PM ET #11

    Far out that the SP points handicap prop-line has risen by 3 points.

    Though I want a KD or KO prop on both.

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    Far out that the SP points handicap prop-line has risen by 3 points.

    Though I want a KD or KO prop on both.

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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #12

    i'm looking at under 5.5 and kd before the 4th round depending on odds.  it'll be funny if these guys get in there and just box their way to a boring decision. 

     we're on the same page.  i hope the books oblige with some more props.

    noticed the points gettin wider.  i should of grabbed it when it was
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    i'm looking at under 5.5 and kd before the 4th round depending on odds.  it'll be funny if these guys get in there and just box their way to a boring decision. 

     we're on the same page.  i hope the books oblige with some more props.

    noticed the points gettin wider.  i should of grabbed it when it was
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 12:28 AM ET #13

    I think Dawson in a hurry tomorrow night. not long at ll. maybe 3 or 4 rounds. And I like Tarver won me big $ when he KOd RJJ.
     
    The other fight is weird. Peter cant box for shit but Vitali hasnt been hit in a while  in a real fight. Vital was on his way to outboxing Lennox before his eye almost fell out of his head. Im gonna say Vitali by decision. jab jab jab jab
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    I think Dawson in a hurry tomorrow night. not long at ll. maybe 3 or 4 rounds. And I like Tarver won me big $ when he KOd RJJ.
     
    The other fight is weird. Peter cant box for shit but Vitali hasnt been hit in a while  in a real fight. Vital was on his way to outboxing Lennox before his eye almost fell out of his head. Im gonna say Vitali by decision. jab jab jab jab
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 2:07 AM ET #14

    Hahaha Tarver has never suffered a legit knockdown, has way more power, a way better chin, and is a better boxer then Dawson.  But you think Dawson wins inside 4??  Have fun losing your money.
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    Hahaha Tarver has never suffered a legit knockdown, has way more power, a way better chin, and is a better boxer then Dawson.  But you think Dawson wins inside 4??  Have fun losing your money.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 3:12 AM ET #15

    OK asshole
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    OK asshole
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 3:46 PM ET #16

    If you take Fighter A and Fighter B, and each has roughly the same skill.  Fighter A comes out of a 4-year retirement with no warm-up bout, after a rash of injuries.  Yet, Fighter A is a -225 fav?
     
     
    Historically, Fighter A loses this fight badly.  The only exception that I can remember is Leonard-Hagler.  I don't like the fight being in Germany, but that just makes Peter a bigger dog.
     
    I am on Peter +175.
     
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    If you take Fighter A and Fighter B, and each has roughly the same skill.  Fighter A comes out of a 4-year retirement with no warm-up bout, after a rash of injuries.  Yet, Fighter A is a -225 fav?
     
     
    Historically, Fighter A loses this fight badly.  The only exception that I can remember is Leonard-Hagler.  I don't like the fight being in Germany, but that just makes Peter a bigger dog.
     
    I am on Peter +175.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 4:10 PM ET #17

    BTW, I am pretty sure this fight will be shown live on channelsurfing.net in about an hour.
     
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    BTW, I am pretty sure this fight will be shown live on channelsurfing.net in about an hour.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 6:14 PM ET #18

    BOnHA Vitaly!!!

    I'm not sure Sammy Pete won a single round? He may have won minutes overall, maybe? And how often do you see the Heavyweight Champion just quit???

    VK moved much better than I expected and SP was never in that fight. A very pleasing day. Only now is; will VK retire or keep on fighting???

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    BOnHA Vitaly!!!

    I'm not sure Sammy Pete won a single round? He may have won minutes overall, maybe? And how often do you see the Heavyweight Champion just quit???

    VK moved much better than I expected and SP was never in that fight. A very pleasing day. Only now is; will VK retire or keep on fighting???

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:51 AM ET #19

    He wasnt a heavyweight champion.
     
    I was surprised he quit. not surprised he was dominated though
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    He wasnt a heavyweight champion.
     
    I was surprised he quit. not surprised he was dominated though
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    If you take Fighter A and Fighter B, and each has roughly the same skill.  Fighter A comes out of a 4-year retirement with no warm-up bout, after a rash of injuries.  Yet, Fighter A is a -225 fav?
     
     
    Historically, Fighter A loses this fight badly.  The only exception that I can remember is Leonard-Hagler.  I don't like the fight being in Germany, but that just makes Peter a bigger dog.
     
    I am on Peter +175.
     


    in the beginning, i really thought klitschko should of been in the -300 range, and i really couldn't understand the odds at all.  klitschko versus peter was not any fight in the past.  it was tonight.  fighters in the past are unlikely to be near as smart or as in shape as klitschko stayed during the lay off.  as well as sparring regularly with the number one heavy in the world.   i'm pissed i let myself be swayed here. 

    but you very well could save me on the next bet. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    If you take Fighter A and Fighter B, and each has roughly the same skill.  Fighter A comes out of a 4-year retirement with no warm-up bout, after a rash of injuries.  Yet, Fighter A is a -225 fav?
     
     
    Historically, Fighter A loses this fight badly.  The only exception that I can remember is Leonard-Hagler.  I don't like the fight being in Germany, but that just makes Peter a bigger dog.
     
    I am on Peter +175.
     


    in the beginning, i really thought klitschko should of been in the -300 range, and i really couldn't understand the odds at all.  klitschko versus peter was not any fight in the past.  it was tonight.  fighters in the past are unlikely to be near as smart or as in shape as klitschko stayed during the lay off.  as well as sparring regularly with the number one heavy in the world.   i'm pissed i let myself be swayed here. 

    but you very well could save me on the next bet. 
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