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    shamrock vs baroni

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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 1:25 AM ET #1

    anyone else getting this on PPV friday?
     
    the card seems decent, i may have to pay for this one....
     
    the preview show on Showtime was hilarious Baroni just cursing every interview...
     
    think he beats frank like he beat dave menne?
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    anyone else getting this on PPV friday?
     
    the card seems decent, i may have to pay for this one....
     
    the preview show on Showtime was hilarious Baroni just cursing every interview...
     
    think he beats frank like he beat dave menne?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 9:05 AM ET #2

    Going for the underdog in Shamrock via decision or late submission.  Only way I see Baroni winning is by an early KO, otherwise he'll probably gas out.

    I like Ludwig to beat Daley at -143.  Have to take the more experienced striker against a hyped guy who isn't a submission specialist.
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    Going for the underdog in Shamrock via decision or late submission.  Only way I see Baroni winning is by an early KO, otherwise he'll probably gas out.

    I like Ludwig to beat Daley at -143.  Have to take the more experienced striker against a hyped guy who isn't a submission specialist.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 6:10 PM ET #3

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.
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    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 6:21 PM ET #4

    by the way this is frank shamrock correct????? kens brother????
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    by the way this is frank shamrock correct????? kens brother????
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 6:41 PM ET #5

    Shamrock +120 (.5 unit)
     
    Outside of Kondo, Baroni has never beaten anybody respectable. Shamrock won't have to worry about takedowns like he did with Renzo Gracie. As stated in another post, outside of an early KO, it's tough to see Baroni winning this fight. Shamrock has only been KO'd once. From a kick by, ironically enough, Kondo. But that was a different Kondo. A difference of 10 years and over 50 fights.
     
    I see Baroni gassing and Shamrock winning by a submission late in the 2nd round.
     
     
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    Shamrock +120 (.5 unit)
     
    Outside of Kondo, Baroni has never beaten anybody respectable. Shamrock won't have to worry about takedowns like he did with Renzo Gracie. As stated in another post, outside of an early KO, it's tough to see Baroni winning this fight. Shamrock has only been KO'd once. From a kick by, ironically enough, Kondo. But that was a different Kondo. A difference of 10 years and over 50 fights.
     
    I see Baroni gassing and Shamrock winning by a submission late in the 2nd round.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 6:48 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    by the way this is frank shamrock correct????? kens brother????
     
    Yes. Ken's adoptive younger brother.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    by the way this is frank shamrock correct????? kens brother????
     
    Yes. Ken's adoptive younger brother.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 8:22 PM ET #7

    Adding Buentello -155 (1 unit)
     
     
     
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    Adding Buentello -155 (1 unit)
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 9:42 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:

    Shamrock +120 (.5 unit)
     
    Outside of Kondo, Baroni has never beaten anybody respectable. Shamrock won't have to worry about takedowns like he did with Renzo Gracie. As stated in another post, outside of an early KO, it's tough to see Baroni winning this fight. Shamrock has only been KO'd once. From a kick by, ironically enough, Kondo. But that was a different Kondo. A difference of 10 years and over 50 fights.
     
    I see Baroni gassing and Shamrock winning by a submission late in the 2nd round.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:

    Shamrock +120 (.5 unit)
     
    Outside of Kondo, Baroni has never beaten anybody respectable. Shamrock won't have to worry about takedowns like he did with Renzo Gracie. As stated in another post, outside of an early KO, it's tough to see Baroni winning this fight. Shamrock has only been KO'd once. From a kick by, ironically enough, Kondo. But that was a different Kondo. A difference of 10 years and over 50 fights.
     
    I see Baroni gassing and Shamrock winning by a submission late in the 2nd round.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 9:42 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 10:07 PM ET #10

    that is bs how they announce crazyhorse dropping off this card 2 minutes before the fight starts...
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    that is bs how they announce crazyhorse dropping off this card 2 minutes before the fight starts...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jthollywood:

    that is bs how they announce crazyhorse dropping off this card 2 minutes before the fight starts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jthollywood:

    that is bs how they announce crazyhorse dropping off this card 2 minutes before the fight starts...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 11:30 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.


    yep, that's what usually happens when Baroni fights https://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=278. 
    Don't think Frank will take the risk against Baroni if he doesn't think he has a chance.
    Charles has been in jail, there's a link on the net with his mugshot and him smiling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.


    yep, that's what usually happens when Baroni fights https://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=278. 
    Don't think Frank will take the risk against Baroni if he doesn't think he has a chance.
    Charles has been in jail, there's a link on the net with his mugshot and him smiling.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2007 - 11:59 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosluggo:

    I cant stand either fighters here, but shamrock is doooone..He retired in 99 and is still fighting. He might have been something when mma and ufc started, but the level of fighting since has been raised greatly. Take baroni, he will pound shamrock. And to the guy above, what you said about the ko early and submission by shamrock is exactly what i read on a different website.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2007 - 12:04 AM ET #14

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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2007 - 12:30 AM ET #15

    Daley wins by stoppage, the kid is explosive.
    Baroni got choked out, was being tagged by Shamrock all night.
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    Daley wins by stoppage, the kid is explosive.
    Baroni got choked out, was being tagged by Shamrock all night.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2007 - 12:33 AM ET #16

    the coverage of these fights is terrible...the only who is decent and knows his stuff is Glazer. UFC is clearly the top dog and has the best coverage. Goldberg is absolutely horrible and cant conduct an interview. Its funny how all these fighters come up with these fluke injuries. After this card i cant wait for the Ultimate Fighter finale and the jens and penn fight.
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    the coverage of these fights is terrible...the only who is decent and knows his stuff is Glazer. UFC is clearly the top dog and has the best coverage. Goldberg is absolutely horrible and cant conduct an interview. Its funny how all these fighters come up with these fluke injuries. After this card i cant wait for the Ultimate Fighter finale and the jens and penn fight.
     
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    is the UFC coverage that much better with that tool joe rogan yelling into his fucking mike during every post fight interview?...thats what the mike is for you fucking retard!!!!!!
     
    also remember UFC 1 with fox news brian kilmeade and bill superfoot wallace doing the commentary and rich "the Gman" goines as the ring announcer
     
    good call jdr!
     
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    is the UFC coverage that much better with that tool joe rogan yelling into his fucking mike during every post fight interview?...thats what the mike is for you fucking retard!!!!!!
     
    also remember UFC 1 with fox news brian kilmeade and bill superfoot wallace doing the commentary and rich "the Gman" goines as the ring announcer
     
    good call jdr!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2007 - 1:12 AM ET #18

    i hope Diaz wins tomorrow and then KOs parysian
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    i hope Diaz wins tomorrow and then KOs parysian
     
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    yes the ufc coverage is that much better. Joe Rogan does have martial arts background and he can hold a conversation and is charasmatic. Its nice when Randy Couture get behind the mic. all the dancers, who couldn't dance, is really unneccessary......of course this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to one
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    yes the ufc coverage is that much better. Joe Rogan does have martial arts background and he can hold a conversation and is charasmatic. Its nice when Randy Couture get behind the mic. all the dancers, who couldn't dance, is really unneccessary......of course this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to one
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2007 - 10:08 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by jthollywood:

    that is bs how they announce crazyhorse dropping off this card 2 minutes before the fight starts...
     
    He was arrested in Florida a week ago. EliteXC couldn't get him cleared of the legal issues.
     
    https://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7986
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jthollywood:

    that is bs how they announce crazyhorse dropping off this card 2 minutes before the fight starts...
     
    He was arrested in Florida a week ago. EliteXC couldn't get him cleared of the legal issues.
     
    https://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7986
     
     
     
     
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