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    PW/Verno Pick

    Kidcole35
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    Kidcole35
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 8:47 PM ET #1

    No big write up this week, both fighters have solid beards and despite Paul's recent display of power I don't think he'll be able to get Verno out of there. I like over 9.5 in this one
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    No big write up this week, both fighters have solid beards and despite Paul's recent display of power I don't think he'll be able to get Verno out of there. I like over 9.5 in this one
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 12:09 AM ET #2

    Kid I dunna man, I have not seen much from Phillips but I know he is a lil older then The Punisher .. Paul is very active throwing 100 punches a round and if its less he has said he has been sitting down on his punches more lines arent out for me so I have no clue what they are I would go with a Williams Win for sure .. Under cant be too bad of a play .. 9.5 .. dunna I gotta check a few tapes on Phillips out ... What you think about the Arreola fight? hes fighting a big dude .. so far most of C.A's fights have ended in KO ..
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    Kid I dunna man, I have not seen much from Phillips but I know he is a lil older then The Punisher .. Paul is very active throwing 100 punches a round and if its less he has said he has been sitting down on his punches more lines arent out for me so I have no clue what they are I would go with a Williams Win for sure .. Under cant be too bad of a play .. 9.5 .. dunna I gotta check a few tapes on Phillips out ... What you think about the Arreola fight? hes fighting a big dude .. so far most of C.A's fights have ended in KO ..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 4:36 AM ET #3

    i like paul to ko phillips by mid rounds.  BOTH of Paul's recent fights were expected to go rounds (if i'm remembering correctly?)..especially his last one with Quintana which was expected to go the distance, and we know what happened there.

    paul is stronger than ever and just now coming into prime...phillips is an old guy now and though he beat cory spinks, he was fighting a guy with a 20% ko ratio or some such.

    also phillips losses were to short guys with little power (with the exception of quartey who happens to be a little guy (short/no reach)

    pw itd / the under/ or nothing as far as prop bets with this fight...for me anyways...


    caveat -  phillips is a good boxer and more experienced guy, so it's very possible he could survive to the over / distance..

    good luck






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    i like paul to ko phillips by mid rounds.  BOTH of Paul's recent fights were expected to go rounds (if i'm remembering correctly?)..especially his last one with Quintana which was expected to go the distance, and we know what happened there.

    paul is stronger than ever and just now coming into prime...phillips is an old guy now and though he beat cory spinks, he was fighting a guy with a 20% ko ratio or some such.

    also phillips losses were to short guys with little power (with the exception of quartey who happens to be a little guy (short/no reach)

    pw itd / the under/ or nothing as far as prop bets with this fight...for me anyways...


    caveat -  phillips is a good boxer and more experienced guy, so it's very possible he could survive to the over / distance..

    good luck






     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 4:58 AM ET #4

    got .10 for .65 on walker...throw away sort of bet.  arreola will likely win, but deathvalli makes a good point that walker is a big dude..i think the biggest arreola has fought.

    Houston has a good write up on this fight.  sounds like walker's trainer has more than the usual bit of confidence... and sounds like walker is not going into this with an underdog mentality.


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    got .10 for .65 on walker...throw away sort of bet.  arreola will likely win, but deathvalli makes a good point that walker is a big dude..i think the biggest arreola has fought.

    Houston has a good write up on this fight.  sounds like walker's trainer has more than the usual bit of confidence... and sounds like walker is not going into this with an underdog mentality.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 1:45 PM ET #5

    Quintana pretty much got caught cold, and Kolle wasn't really ever supposed to compete. I like Williams, and expect him to win, I just think it makes it past 9.5. I think if it does get stopped it will probably be a corner retirement or referee/doctor stoppage late.
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    Quintana pretty much got caught cold, and Kolle wasn't really ever supposed to compete. I like Williams, and expect him to win, I just think it makes it past 9.5. I think if it does get stopped it will probably be a corner retirement or referee/doctor stoppage late.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 5:51 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Kidcole35:

    Quintana pretty much got caught cold, and Kolle wasn't really ever supposed to compete. I like Williams, and expect him to win, I just think it makes it past 9.5. I think if it does get stopped it will probably be a corner retirement or referee/doctor stoppage late.


    wishing you luck man... if i play anything it'll be williams itd, but at -177 that's might be too much chalk for me for a prop bet in THIS fight...or if the under gets into plus money, might risk something tiny there.

     i'm being honest when i say i'd be far more surprised to see this fight go the distance than for williams to ko phillips before 6, of course it really all depends on which one of these 2 guys shows up and how old phillips really is... i think we can put about zero stock in him beating spinks...you just can't compare spinks and williams...

    i realize kolle was expected to lose, but i believe (i could be mistaken) it was expected to go some rounds. 

    re quintana, getting caught cold is one of the lamest excuses in boxing...the dude was a vet of the sport in one of the biggest fights of his life, he should of been warmed up and ready...if he wasn't, he wasn't, but somehow i tend to believe the dude just got beat up.

    like i said, i haven't the balls to put any chalk on the under, you may very well be right...hopefully if i go with williams itd it'll be in the 10th past 1:30 for both our sakes...though it'll suck waiting that long to see if i've won or lost money..






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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidcole35:

    Quintana pretty much got caught cold, and Kolle wasn't really ever supposed to compete. I like Williams, and expect him to win, I just think it makes it past 9.5. I think if it does get stopped it will probably be a corner retirement or referee/doctor stoppage late.


    wishing you luck man... if i play anything it'll be williams itd, but at -177 that's might be too much chalk for me for a prop bet in THIS fight...or if the under gets into plus money, might risk something tiny there.

     i'm being honest when i say i'd be far more surprised to see this fight go the distance than for williams to ko phillips before 6, of course it really all depends on which one of these 2 guys shows up and how old phillips really is... i think we can put about zero stock in him beating spinks...you just can't compare spinks and williams...

    i realize kolle was expected to lose, but i believe (i could be mistaken) it was expected to go some rounds. 

    re quintana, getting caught cold is one of the lamest excuses in boxing...the dude was a vet of the sport in one of the biggest fights of his life, he should of been warmed up and ready...if he wasn't, he wasn't, but somehow i tend to believe the dude just got beat up.

    like i said, i haven't the balls to put any chalk on the under, you may very well be right...hopefully if i go with williams itd it'll be in the 10th past 1:30 for both our sakes...though it'll suck waiting that long to see if i've won or lost money..






     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 10:39 AM ET #7

    Damn Lines out for the fight tonight P Will -1000 Phill +650 Over 9.5 +105 Under 9.5 -135 I might lay a lil on the Under if anything there will be action in this fight and the way the Punisher comes foward usually you get an early night .. Phillips is old and not sure if he can take the size diff. I might lay  a lil on Walker too as a "might as well" bet +600 isnt too bad anything can happen . over under is 5.5 rounds I think it should be an under its -240 .. these dudes wont stand too too long have fun BOL tonight if you guys throw down at all
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    Damn Lines out for the fight tonight P Will -1000 Phill +650 Over 9.5 +105 Under 9.5 -135 I might lay a lil on the Under if anything there will be action in this fight and the way the Punisher comes foward usually you get an early night .. Phillips is old and not sure if he can take the size diff. I might lay  a lil on Walker too as a "might as well" bet +600 isnt too bad anything can happen . over under is 5.5 rounds I think it should be an under its -240 .. these dudes wont stand too too long have fun BOL tonight if you guys throw down at all
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 11:11 PM ET #8

    Missed it by a half a round
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    Missed it by a half a round
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 11:13 PM ET #9

    you missed it by 1 and a half rounds
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    you missed it by 1 and a half rounds
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 11:14 PM ET #10

    fight need to go over to the 10 rd with 1:30 remain for you to win...sorry bout that, but he was gettin tore up anyways
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    fight need to go over to the 10 rd with 1:30 remain for you to win...sorry bout that, but he was gettin tore up anyways
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 11:16 PM ET #11

    Wasn't a bad bet. This fight sucked.
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    Wasn't a bad bet. This fight sucked.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 11:25 PM ET #12

    Ahh, good point, I don't feel so bad now.
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    Ahh, good point, I don't feel so bad now.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2008 - 6:42 AM ET #13

    I guess when your hot your hot ..2 for 2 on those picks :) .. too bad I didnt lay out some serious $$ on them . maybe next time . next week I think I am def gonna put some $$ on DLH its too safe of a bet IMO ..
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    I guess when your hot your hot ..2 for 2 on those picks :) .. too bad I didnt lay out some serious $$ on them . maybe next time . next week I think I am def gonna put some $$ on DLH its too safe of a bet IMO ..
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