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    Paq Man odds seem low

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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 12:33 AM ET #1

    I've seen his odds at -360 and from what I have seen for his recent fights this is incredibly lower than his previous fights.  Apparently Bradley is a good fighter from what I've read from those of you in the know on this site. 

    However do you really think that they are going to throw one of their own to beat Manny and eliminate the biggest showdown in recent boxing?  Seems like if you have some cash that the Manny ML is a safe bet.

    Any expert thoughts?

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    I've seen his odds at -360 and from what I have seen for his recent fights this is incredibly lower than his previous fights.  Apparently Bradley is a good fighter from what I've read from those of you in the know on this site. 

    However do you really think that they are going to throw one of their own to beat Manny and eliminate the biggest showdown in recent boxing?  Seems like if you have some cash that the Manny ML is a safe bet.

    Any expert thoughts?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 4:51 PM ET #2

    i dont profess to be an expert but my opinion is that the line is low because paq is coming off an unconvincing win against a 38-year-old career lw who was fighting at ww(jmm also struggled at times in his last five fights and did not look particulary good against casa, katsadis,pbf). bradley, all of 5'5" with very little power and first fight at ww, would be a +800 if this was the paq before the jmm fight.

    look into next weeks fight morales/garcia.

    garcia will hopefully be +150 and a great dog.

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    i dont profess to be an expert but my opinion is that the line is low because paq is coming off an unconvincing win against a 38-year-old career lw who was fighting at ww(jmm also struggled at times in his last five fights and did not look particulary good against casa, katsadis,pbf). bradley, all of 5'5" with very little power and first fight at ww, would be a +800 if this was the paq before the jmm fight.

    look into next weeks fight morales/garcia.

    garcia will hopefully be +150 and a great dog.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 10:19 PM ET #3

    Thanks for the input Qncyk.  I think there is a good bit of value, though tough to read value at -360.  I agree that I thought this line would be much much higher.
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    Thanks for the input Qncyk.  I think there is a good bit of value, though tough to read value at -360.  I agree that I thought this line would be much much higher.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 11:37 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    i dont profess to be an expert but my opinion is that the line is low because paq is coming off an unconvincing win against a 38-year-old career lw who was fighting at ww(jmm also struggled at times in his last five fights and did not look particulary good against casa, katsadis,pbf). bradley, all of 5'5" with very little power and first fight at ww, would be a +800 if this was the paq before the jmm fight.

    look into next weeks fight morales/garcia.

    garcia will hopefully be +150 and a great dog.



    He's actually a heavy favorite, like -300, unless you get a great line down south.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    i dont profess to be an expert but my opinion is that the line is low because paq is coming off an unconvincing win against a 38-year-old career lw who was fighting at ww(jmm also struggled at times in his last five fights and did not look particulary good against casa, katsadis,pbf). bradley, all of 5'5" with very little power and first fight at ww, would be a +800 if this was the paq before the jmm fight.

    look into next weeks fight morales/garcia.

    garcia will hopefully be +150 and a great dog.



    He's actually a heavy favorite, like -300, unless you get a great line down south.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2012 - 12:40 PM ET #5

    -300 is a horrible line. morales is coming off gall bladder surgery and i dont think he has much left. he looked terrible against 22-year-old journeyman cano who took the fight on short notice

    this line should be even money.

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    -300 is a horrible line. morales is coming off gall bladder surgery and i dont think he has much left. he looked terrible against 22-year-old journeyman cano who took the fight on short notice

    this line should be even money.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2012 - 2:04 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    -300 is a horrible line. morales is coming off gall bladder surgery and i dont think he has much left. he looked terrible against 22-year-old journeyman cano who took the fight on short notice

    this line should be even money.



    No man, Garcia is -300. So they are aware of everything you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    -300 is a horrible line. morales is coming off gall bladder surgery and i dont think he has much left. he looked terrible against 22-year-old journeyman cano who took the fight on short notice

    this line should be even money.



    No man, Garcia is -300. So they are aware of everything you know.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2012 - 11:39 AM ET #7

    hopefully late money will come in on fan favorite morales here in mexico and hell go off close to even money.

    i still remember getting plus money with tszyu against chavez when US books werent even offering a line on the fight.

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    hopefully late money will come in on fan favorite morales here in mexico and hell go off close to even money.

    i still remember getting plus money with tszyu against chavez when US books werent even offering a line on the fight.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2012 - 1:09 PM ET #8

    My theory is that this is a pick em fight.  Since Bob Arum has both fighters, it's a no lose situation for him.  Pac wins?  The super fight stays intact.  Something we'd all like to see, however interest, or at least my own is dwindling.  Bradley wins?  And he certainly has a shot.. the torch is passed.  And we may get Mayweather/Bradley.  Bradley we'll conceed alot to make the fight, since he's humble, he's hungry and he wants to be the best.  Whereas Manny shouldn't take less than 50/50 on principle alone, and he shouldn't.. Bradley will gladly take considerable less to make tthe fight.  He also has a shot to beat Mayweather, something Arum would love seeing, Mayweather without his perfect record.  I have feeling Arum believes Bradley has a better shot at beating Floyd than does Manny.  Anyway, just my opionion. 

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    My theory is that this is a pick em fight.  Since Bob Arum has both fighters, it's a no lose situation for him.  Pac wins?  The super fight stays intact.  Something we'd all like to see, however interest, or at least my own is dwindling.  Bradley wins?  And he certainly has a shot.. the torch is passed.  And we may get Mayweather/Bradley.  Bradley we'll conceed alot to make the fight, since he's humble, he's hungry and he wants to be the best.  Whereas Manny shouldn't take less than 50/50 on principle alone, and he shouldn't.. Bradley will gladly take considerable less to make tthe fight.  He also has a shot to beat Mayweather, something Arum would love seeing, Mayweather without his perfect record.  I have feeling Arum believes Bradley has a better shot at beating Floyd than does Manny.  Anyway, just my opionion. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 9:01 AM ET #9

    In my opinion the PPV numbers would be so much less for a Floyd vs. Bradley fight that even with a greater percentage it would seem that Floyd would make the same amount of money.  I could be wrong.

    I would pay to see a Floyd vs. Manny but wouldn't think about paying to see Floyd vs. Bradley.

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    In my opinion the PPV numbers would be so much less for a Floyd vs. Bradley fight that even with a greater percentage it would seem that Floyd would make the same amount of money.  I could be wrong.

    I would pay to see a Floyd vs. Manny but wouldn't think about paying to see Floyd vs. Bradley.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2012 - 2:04 AM ET #10


    jump on Pacquiao while is still at -360 it could go up to -600 come fight night..one of the tricks of the oddsmaker is to confuse the bettors so they can balance the books but I think PAC should be 5 to 1 favorite so jump on it right now while it's still low,  I don't see anyone beating PAC at 147 only Floyd no more
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    jump on Pacquiao while is still at -360 it could go up to -600 come fight night..one of the tricks of the oddsmaker is to confuse the bettors so they can balance the books but I think PAC should be 5 to 1 favorite so jump on it right now while it's still low,  I don't see anyone beating PAC at 147 only Floyd no more
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