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    Pacquiao vs Marquez III (opening odds)

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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2011 - 4:15 PM ET #1

    I'd say Pacquiao -750 to -850 (-800 average) and Marquez +500 to +600 (-550 average), all depending on sportsbook and time odds open. Anyone with a line yet in U.S., offshore, U.K. or elsewhere? I yet to see anyplace taking action as of yet. Thanks for the info. Also- I checked Betfair the action on Mayweather fight they had Floyd -670, now it is -580. Early action is on Ortiz, which makes sense, the average fight fan (sports bettor) bets the favorite just before the event. So all the boxing analysts who bet want to take advantage of early high odds, but I don't see any major movement of Floyd going under -500.
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    I'd say Pacquiao -750 to -850 (-800 average) and Marquez +500 to +600 (-550 average), all depending on sportsbook and time odds open. Anyone with a line yet in U.S., offshore, U.K. or elsewhere? I yet to see anyplace taking action as of yet. Thanks for the info. Also- I checked Betfair the action on Mayweather fight they had Floyd -670, now it is -580. Early action is on Ortiz, which makes sense, the average fight fan (sports bettor) bets the favorite just before the event. So all the boxing analysts who bet want to take advantage of early high odds, but I don't see any major movement of Floyd going under -500.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #2

    Anyone have an opening posted line?
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    Anyone have an opening posted line?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2011 - 8:39 PM ET #3

    It's been open for a couple of weeks.. 

    Manny -800, JMM +550. (5dimes.com)
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    It's been open for a couple of weeks.. 

    Manny -800, JMM +550. (5dimes.com)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2011 - 4:46 AM ET #4

    pac -800...+500

    pbf -800...+500......sbg

        

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    pac -800...+500

    pbf -800...+500......sbg

        

     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #5

    walktheline: I did see it on 5dimes but it had no props as of yet and I was not able to put down a wager. The page went to an error when I tried to enter a wager so I didn't know if anyone was able to get in a successful early wager. Thanks though.
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    walktheline: I did see it on 5dimes but it had no props as of yet and I was not able to put down a wager. The page went to an error when I tried to enter a wager so I didn't know if anyone was able to get in a successful early wager. Thanks though.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2011 - 5:51 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    walktheline: I did see it on 5dimes but it had no props as of yet and I was not able to put down a wager. The page went to an error when I tried to enter a wager so I didn't know if anyone was able to get in a successful early wager. Thanks though.

    I got some early coin on Oritz at the opening +550. Those props probably won't be available for another month or two. Once the two go to camp, we'll probably start to see something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    walktheline: I did see it on 5dimes but it had no props as of yet and I was not able to put down a wager. The page went to an error when I tried to enter a wager so I didn't know if anyone was able to get in a successful early wager. Thanks though.

    I got some early coin on Oritz at the opening +550. Those props probably won't be available for another month or two. Once the two go to camp, we'll probably start to see something.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2011 - 9:16 PM ET #7

    Being that the fight is in September and we are almost in July, we should see some props very soon and most likely as you said once they enter camp. This will give linesmakers a peek at the training schedule. I don't forsee any major information until the weigh-in, and I expect both to be in the best condition as usual. Ortiz weighed 146 against Berto, I'm curious though if he will gain a significant amount of muscle then lose some weight just prior to the fight. Not likely because Berto was his first major opponent and at his heaviest. I expected him to carry up his strength and the fight went almost according to exactly my analysis, I didn't think Berto would stay so agressive (he had more heart than I expected and brought everything he could). Ortiz being so strong and a southpaw I'm curious if he can land combo shots and also have effective. I think if he connects they will be effective but I have difficulty seeing him able to break through Floyd's defense.
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    Being that the fight is in September and we are almost in July, we should see some props very soon and most likely as you said once they enter camp. This will give linesmakers a peek at the training schedule. I don't forsee any major information until the weigh-in, and I expect both to be in the best condition as usual. Ortiz weighed 146 against Berto, I'm curious though if he will gain a significant amount of muscle then lose some weight just prior to the fight. Not likely because Berto was his first major opponent and at his heaviest. I expected him to carry up his strength and the fight went almost according to exactly my analysis, I didn't think Berto would stay so agressive (he had more heart than I expected and brought everything he could). Ortiz being so strong and a southpaw I'm curious if he can land combo shots and also have effective. I think if he connects they will be effective but I have difficulty seeing him able to break through Floyd's defense.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2011 - 9:58 PM ET #8

    walktheline: BTW- Good luck with the wager. I'm not a Mayweather hater for the same reason's as most. In my opinion he is super talented and an all-time pound-for-pound best. His hypocrisy discredits him. Besides ducking Manny Pacqiuao, Paul Williams and  Sergio Martinez, his past statements he had made shows his mindset and must think people are hypnotized by his words.
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    walktheline: BTW- Good luck with the wager. I'm not a Mayweather hater for the same reason's as most. In my opinion he is super talented and an all-time pound-for-pound best. His hypocrisy discredits him. Besides ducking Manny Pacqiuao, Paul Williams and  Sergio Martinez, his past statements he had made shows his mindset and must think people are hypnotized by his words.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    walktheline: BTW- Good luck with the wager. I'm not a Mayweather hater for the same reason's as most. In my opinion he is super talented and an all-time pound-for-pound best. His hypocrisy discredits him. Besides ducking Manny Pacqiuao, Paul Williams and  Sergio Martinez, his past statements he had made shows his mindset and must think people are hypnotized by his words.

    Thanks man, but you need to at least concede that Manny is AT THE VERY LEAST EPO DOPING. It's 100% confirmed that Pacquiao not agreeing to the time frame of the test is what broke the negotiations down - not once but twice. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    walktheline: BTW- Good luck with the wager. I'm not a Mayweather hater for the same reason's as most. In my opinion he is super talented and an all-time pound-for-pound best. His hypocrisy discredits him. Besides ducking Manny Pacqiuao, Paul Williams and  Sergio Martinez, his past statements he had made shows his mindset and must think people are hypnotized by his words.

    Thanks man, but you need to at least concede that Manny is AT THE VERY LEAST EPO DOPING. It's 100% confirmed that Pacquiao not agreeing to the time frame of the test is what broke the negotiations down - not once but twice. 
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