Ortiz has the advantage over liddel.Expect liddel to be ground and pounded. Ortiz is just too solid of a fighter right now. He finds ways to take everyone to the ground. Ortiz wins this battle,and expect a rematch between the 2 b/c it will be 1-1 after this fight. If there is one thing i can handicap it is fighting, becuase i do it myself.
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Ortiz has the advantage over liddel.Expect liddel to be ground and pounded. Ortiz is just too solid of a fighter right now. He finds ways to take everyone to the ground. Ortiz wins this battle,and expect a rematch between the 2 b/c it will be 1-1 after this fight. If there is one thing i can handicap it is fighting, becuase i do it myself.
hey bro no disrespect but how in the hell is tito ortiz gonna beat chuck liddell?? u say tito finds ways to take anyone to the ground, but have u seen any of chucks fights? the 2 best in takedowns couture and horn could not take chuck down at all.. chuck has the best takedown defense in the ufc right now.. chuck is gonna put tito to sleep in the 2nd round again.. why does tito have an advantage cause he beat 2 class b fighters and one of them he should of lost too...
hey bro no disrespect but how in the hell is tito ortiz gonna beat chuck liddell?? u say tito finds ways to take anyone to the ground, but have u seen any of chucks fights? the 2 best in takedowns couture and horn could not take chuck down at all.. chuck has the best takedown defense in the ufc right now.. chuck is gonna put tito to sleep in the 2nd round again.. why does tito have an advantage cause he beat 2 class b fighters and one of them he should of lost too...
because tito can stand up and go to the ground. He is a much more rounded fighter than liddell is. Yes, i have seen all of everyone's fights. Who did tito defeat thats a class b fighter? Forest griffin? He definitely is not a class B fighter. How is forest griffin a class b fighter? lol I can understand maybe shamrock b/c he is too old now though. Do you know mma at all? probably not becuase tito has beaten so many good people in his time. To tell you the truth i hate chuck liddell. He fuckin pussed out from fighting Wanderlai silva. That guy from pride would fuckin demolish chuck liddell. Did you see how much of a bitch chuck looked like when wanderlei went into the ring and got in his face? lol chuck looked like a bitch. Anyways liddells avoidence of going to the ground isn't going to last forever. I feel tito can take that skinny to the ground.
because tito can stand up and go to the ground. He is a much more rounded fighter than liddell is. Yes, i have seen all of everyone's fights. Who did tito defeat thats a class b fighter? Forest griffin? He definitely is not a class B fighter. How is forest griffin a class b fighter? lol I can understand maybe shamrock b/c he is too old now though. Do you know mma at all? probably not becuase tito has beaten so many good people in his time. To tell you the truth i hate chuck liddell. He fuckin pussed out from fighting Wanderlai silva. That guy from pride would fuckin demolish chuck liddell. Did you see how much of a bitch chuck looked like when wanderlei went into the ring and got in his face? lol chuck looked like a bitch. Anyways liddells avoidence of going to the ground isn't going to last forever. I feel tito can take that skinny to the ground.
To tell you the truth this fight with tito and liddell i could care less about. Its going to be a 'who cares' kind of fight. Only people that really give a shit about that fight are those that don't know anything about the sport and just watch it b/c its the 'cool' thing now. No, the better fights are not even on ufc, Pride has better fights, better fighters. And special tournaments in brazil shun fuckin ufc fights.
To tell you the truth this fight with tito and liddell i could care less about. Its going to be a 'who cares' kind of fight. Only people that really give a shit about that fight are those that don't know anything about the sport and just watch it b/c its the 'cool' thing now. No, the better fights are not even on ufc, Pride has better fights, better fighters. And special tournaments in brazil shun fuckin ufc fights.
You can hate chuck all you want but he will beat tito. also, chuck didnt fight silva because he lost to crocop and the ufc said scew you to the pride commission. do you watch mma?
You can hate chuck all you want but he will beat tito. also, chuck didnt fight silva because he lost to crocop and the ufc said scew you to the pride commission. do you watch mma?
I'd love to see Tito win, but Chuck has that dangerous whip kick and heavy hands. Last time these two fought I thought it was very one sided and uless Tito has improved tremendously since that fight I don't see him winning unless he get's Chuck on the ground early.
When I saw Tito fight Forest Griffen I was unimpressed. I know he had a knee injury at the time and his take-down wasn't up to snuff, but I thought Tito should have been able to end that fight without going the distance.
I'd love to see Tito win, but Chuck has that dangerous whip kick and heavy hands. Last time these two fought I thought it was very one sided and uless Tito has improved tremendously since that fight I don't see him winning unless he get's Chuck on the ground early.
When I saw Tito fight Forest Griffen I was unimpressed. I know he had a knee injury at the time and his take-down wasn't up to snuff, but I thought Tito should have been able to end that fight without going the distance.
Chuck liddel is the man.....no way tito gets pass the first round this time.....Chuck will stomp him again.....Absolutly no way tito takes down chuck liddles, NO WAY||an_shake.gif' border=0>
Chuck liddel is the man.....no way tito gets pass the first round this time.....Chuck will stomp him again.....Absolutly no way tito takes down chuck liddles, NO WAY||an_shake.gif' border=0>
chuck would never fight silva. He would get destroyed! silva losing to crocop should have nothing to do with it. And why doesnt liddel fight crocop then if hes so good? Exactly. They are both better and would destroy liddel! do i watch mma? stfu i compete as well. If ufc used that as an excuse to why liddel isnt fighting silva than that is just an excuse to save liddels ass. B/c liddel is a huge marketing figure in the ufc. If a pride fighter shits on their supposingly best man than its embarrassing to ufc. ufc knows liddel would get shunned by crocop and silva. Thats why there not fighting. Case dismissed.
chuck would never fight silva. He would get destroyed! silva losing to crocop should have nothing to do with it. And why doesnt liddel fight crocop then if hes so good? Exactly. They are both better and would destroy liddel! do i watch mma? stfu i compete as well. If ufc used that as an excuse to why liddel isnt fighting silva than that is just an excuse to save liddels ass. B/c liddel is a huge marketing figure in the ufc. If a pride fighter shits on their supposingly best man than its embarrassing to ufc. ufc knows liddel would get shunned by crocop and silva. Thats why there not fighting. Case dismissed.
Well since you are a keyboard ufc fighter you are obviously an expert. Lets try some common sense. I know this will hurt you but, lets try. Silva came to the ufc and Belfort kicked his ass in 6 seconds. Lidell went to Pride and nuked Metzger. You are a tard if you think Ortiz will beat Lidell which was your initial point because not only was it one sided the first time with ortiz crumbled on the ground like a girl, Ortiz has been fighting lower grade opponents. Who is a harder match Sobrel and Couture or Shamrock and Griffin. But hey, you are a ufc keyboard fighter so you are an expert.
Nice try tard. ||an_laugh.gif' border=0>
Well since you are a keyboard ufc fighter you are obviously an expert. Lets try some common sense. I know this will hurt you but, lets try. Silva came to the ufc and Belfort kicked his ass in 6 seconds. Lidell went to Pride and nuked Metzger. You are a tard if you think Ortiz will beat Lidell which was your initial point because not only was it one sided the first time with ortiz crumbled on the ground like a girl, Ortiz has been fighting lower grade opponents. Who is a harder match Sobrel and Couture or Shamrock and Griffin. But hey, you are a ufc keyboard fighter so you are an expert.
Nice try tard. ||an_laugh.gif' border=0>
a ufc keyboard fighter? lol i really wish i could see these fuckin pussies that can only talk shit behind a computer.
Yeah and liddell also went to pride and got demolished by Quinton Jackson.
Oh yeah and Quinton Jackson got destroyed by Silva.
So shut the fuck up and suck my dick you person.
Trying to prove a point is the last thing your good at. I shit on your fucking face once again.
a ufc keyboard fighter? lol i really wish i could see these fuckin pussies that can only talk shit behind a computer.
Yeah and liddell also went to pride and got demolished by Quinton Jackson.
Oh yeah and Quinton Jackson got destroyed by Silva.
So shut the fuck up and suck my dick you person.
Trying to prove a point is the last thing your good at. I shit on your fucking face once again.
"I am a ufc fighter so I know everything." You are a tard. I will remind you of this when Tito loses. You are probably living in your grandmother's basement in a cardboard fort you made in the 4th grade you fagtard.
"I am a ufc fighter so I know everything." You are a tard. I will remind you of this when Tito loses. You are probably living in your grandmother's basement in a cardboard fort you made in the 4th grade you fagtard.
lol only if you knew who you were really talking to. Whats a fagtard? Must be one of those names little kids with glasses come up with. With the responses i'm getting from you, you must be a kid. There is adult language used on these sites, if i were you i would get some parental guidance.
lol only if you knew who you were really talking to. Whats a fagtard? Must be one of those names little kids with glasses come up with. With the responses i'm getting from you, you must be a kid. There is adult language used on these sites, if i were you i would get some parental guidance.
Lets review MJMs posts.
--lol i really wish i could see these fuckin pussies that can only talk shit behind a computer.
looks like MJM hates people who act tough behind a computer.
however on a previous post...
--And why doesnt liddel fight crocop then if hes so good? Exactly. They are both better and would destroy liddel! do i watch mma? stfu i compete as well.
he claims his expert popinion is because he competes as well. a keyboard fighter. same thing he claims to hate.
so besides being a keyboard fighter. we come to the result.
chuck again beats tito. but hey, mjm is an expert so he knows and he shits on everybodys face.
what a fagtard.
oh wait you dont know what that means. person - one who likes boys and tard - a person who is mentally handicapped. that is you a mentally retarded homosexual who claims to know all about the ufc because he has a tug of war with cyclops every night to his tito poster hanging on the bedroom wall in the attic of his mother's house.
Lets review MJMs posts.
--lol i really wish i could see these fuckin pussies that can only talk shit behind a computer.
looks like MJM hates people who act tough behind a computer.
however on a previous post...
--And why doesnt liddel fight crocop then if hes so good? Exactly. They are both better and would destroy liddel! do i watch mma? stfu i compete as well.
he claims his expert popinion is because he competes as well. a keyboard fighter. same thing he claims to hate.
so besides being a keyboard fighter. we come to the result.
chuck again beats tito. but hey, mjm is an expert so he knows and he shits on everybodys face.
what a fagtard.
oh wait you dont know what that means. person - one who likes boys and tard - a person who is mentally handicapped. that is you a mentally retarded homosexual who claims to know all about the ufc because he has a tug of war with cyclops every night to his tito poster hanging on the bedroom wall in the attic of his mother's house.
I wouldn't say Tito got knocked the hell out. I agree that tito was definately beat the entire match, but that stoppage was questionable.
Tito had some opportunities, but if the match hadn't been stopped he would have had to get real lucky to beat Liddell.
I wouldn't say Tito got knocked the hell out. I agree that tito was definately beat the entire match, but that stoppage was questionable.
Tito had some opportunities, but if the match hadn't been stopped he would have had to get real lucky to beat Liddell.
questionable i dont know backburner he was in that position a few times during that fight if the ref had stopped it in the first yeah that woulda been way early but tito could not take advantage of his shots and he got beat down.
tito did earn much respect for his toughness but he has been real active this year i think he may be a little burned out and could use a break maybe coach on another season of tuf or commentate but tito deserves a break he is only 31 and i know he'll be back
anyway i do think it was nice of tito to thank the troops as someone who just got out of the army it was nice to hear from him||an_cheers.gif' border=0>
questionable i dont know backburner he was in that position a few times during that fight if the ref had stopped it in the first yeah that woulda been way early but tito could not take advantage of his shots and he got beat down.
tito did earn much respect for his toughness but he has been real active this year i think he may be a little burned out and could use a break maybe coach on another season of tuf or commentate but tito deserves a break he is only 31 and i know he'll be back
anyway i do think it was nice of tito to thank the troops as someone who just got out of the army it was nice to hear from him||an_cheers.gif' border=0>
A stoppage was definately not far off, I just thing that Tito was still able to defend himself when the ref called it. I think that Tito has the ability to beat Liddell, but it would take a little luck.
If Chuck and Tito fought 10 times I would say Tito has the potential to possibly win 2 fights. So Chuck is far and away the better fighter.
tank, I agree that it was a nice move by Tito to thank the troops ||an_cheers.gif' border=0>
He's definately shown a lot more class lately compared to his days of talking smack to everyone in the sport.
A stoppage was definately not far off, I just thing that Tito was still able to defend himself when the ref called it. I think that Tito has the ability to beat Liddell, but it would take a little luck.
If Chuck and Tito fought 10 times I would say Tito has the potential to possibly win 2 fights. So Chuck is far and away the better fighter.
tank, I agree that it was a nice move by Tito to thank the troops ||an_cheers.gif' border=0>
He's definately shown a lot more class lately compared to his days of talking smack to everyone in the sport.
I think Tito thrives on getting in people's heads like he does with Shamrock but unfortunately for him that doesnt work on Lidell. And since Twito cant get him down long enough to do damage and cant outstrike him then he wont win in front of an audience. Poor Tito. Maybe he can fight Forrest again so we can all hear how he is fighting harder competition and how Lidell is taking easy fights. I would like to see Lidell fight Cro Cop. I guess I would like to see Tito do that to so Cro Cop can break his jaw and he cant talk for awhile.
I think Tito thrives on getting in people's heads like he does with Shamrock but unfortunately for him that doesnt work on Lidell. And since Twito cant get him down long enough to do damage and cant outstrike him then he wont win in front of an audience. Poor Tito. Maybe he can fight Forrest again so we can all hear how he is fighting harder competition and how Lidell is taking easy fights. I would like to see Lidell fight Cro Cop. I guess I would like to see Tito do that to so Cro Cop can break his jaw and he cant talk for awhile.
But Mike McQueary (email address mjm229@psu.edu & feel free to copy the Penn State Board of Trustees at bot@psu.edu) did just that. He walked away, told his daddy, and never brought it up again. It was a 10-yr old boy.
Is this you? You are famous.
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But Mike McQueary (email address mjm229@psu.edu & feel free to copy the Penn State Board of Trustees at bot@psu.edu) did just that. He walked away, told his daddy, and never brought it up again. It was a 10-yr old boy.
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