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    Ortiz Campbell

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    melvin23
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 7:49 PM ET #1

    Well i feel like i missed the boat on this one...opened last week at both -115 and i leaned ortiz. thinking nate too old. then it popped to -165 and now -210, i use www.betzsports.com

    dont see the value anymore.

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    Well i feel like i missed the boat on this one...opened last week at both -115 and i leaned ortiz. thinking nate too old. then it popped to -165 and now -210, i use www.betzsports.com

    dont see the value anymore.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 10:58 PM ET #2

    230/200 Ortiz
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    230/200 Ortiz
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 11:00 PM ET #3

    Sign up just to plug the site?
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    Sign up just to plug the site?
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 12:26 AM ET #4

    Ortiz made me fucking SICK vs. Maidana.

    Ortiz hasn't been past Round 7 with even a respectable opponent in his career. And I can't see how he's going to stop Campbell.

    Campbell or no play for me.
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    Ortiz made me fucking SICK vs. Maidana.

    Ortiz hasn't been past Round 7 with even a respectable opponent in his career. And I can't see how he's going to stop Campbell.

    Campbell or no play for me.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 6:07 AM ET #5

    Rough fight to predict but Campbell is as slick as they come. Not sure if he has enough left in the gas tank to pull off the up-set at his age though. Either way...very intriguing match-up & should be a lot of fun to  watch. No bet for me on this one, although I'm not completely sold on Ortiz's mental toughness.
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    Rough fight to predict but Campbell is as slick as they come. Not sure if he has enough left in the gas tank to pull off the up-set at his age though. Either way...very intriguing match-up & should be a lot of fun to  watch. No bet for me on this one, although I'm not completely sold on Ortiz's mental toughness.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:15 AM ET #6

    I believe Ortiz will knock him out. Ortiz has to much power for Campbell. Campbell is the naturally smaller guy and has never fought somebody with Ortiz's power. I don't think the Maidana loss can repeat it self here. Campbell has half the power as Maidana(28wins 27KO)and has been KO'd by smaller fighters. Ortiz has really got to be hungry for this fight as there are still millions of money to be made but he needs a big win here.

    Campbell has never really impressed me except maybe his fight with Diaz, but still Diaz has no power and Campbell didn't have to give him any respect. He lost the first 3 rounds of his last fight, but an accidental headbutt ended it as a no contest.

    ORTIZ all the way!!

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    I believe Ortiz will knock him out. Ortiz has to much power for Campbell. Campbell is the naturally smaller guy and has never fought somebody with Ortiz's power. I don't think the Maidana loss can repeat it self here. Campbell has half the power as Maidana(28wins 27KO)and has been KO'd by smaller fighters. Ortiz has really got to be hungry for this fight as there are still millions of money to be made but he needs a big win here.

    Campbell has never really impressed me except maybe his fight with Diaz, but still Diaz has no power and Campbell didn't have to give him any respect. He lost the first 3 rounds of his last fight, but an accidental headbutt ended it as a no contest.

    ORTIZ all the way!!

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 9:41 AM ET #7

    I'm not sure that Campbell is the guy to test Ortiz's heart (at this stage of his career).  That display against Bradley was just disgraceful. 
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    I'm not sure that Campbell is the guy to test Ortiz's heart (at this stage of his career).  That display against Bradley was just disgraceful. 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 1:14 PM ET #8

    Nothing locked in yet but heavily leaning towards Ortiz. He's being heavily promoted...GBP loves him. Nate is old and nobody likes a quitter. Nates swan song was against Diaz...shit is a wrap imo.
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    Nothing locked in yet but heavily leaning towards Ortiz. He's being heavily promoted...GBP loves him. Nate is old and nobody likes a quitter. Nates swan song was against Diaz...shit is a wrap imo.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 1:28 PM ET #9

    McNulty I have just looked in Ortiz and doubled him up with Andre Ward. That means it pays out @evens. I am not confident but think he might be the play tonight..

    Melvin if you double him up with Andre Ward who I think is the bet of the year at -600 then you can get evens.

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    McNulty I have just looked in Ortiz and doubled him up with Andre Ward. That means it pays out @evens. I am not confident but think he might be the play tonight..

    Melvin if you double him up with Andre Ward who I think is the bet of the year at -600 then you can get evens.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 1:32 PM ET #10

    I think the biggest factor in the fight is not necessarily Nate's age (38), but his size
    Ortiz was MUCH BIGGER than him at the weigh in yesterday
    Nate's punches are not going to have the same effect here
    I think Ortiz might be able to get the ref stoppage here
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    I think the biggest factor in the fight is not necessarily Nate's age (38), but his size
    Ortiz was MUCH BIGGER than him at the weigh in yesterday
    Nate's punches are not going to have the same effect here
    I think Ortiz might be able to get the ref stoppage here
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 2:04 PM ET #11

    Ortiz is HUGE compared to Campbell. Campbell used to fight at 130 and he could probably still slim down to 135 if it wasn't for his age. Meanwhile Ortiz is a welterweight parading as a junior-welter. Some of you have questions about Ortiz' heart but I think its only made him less likely to quit. At the same time its made him less likely to press the fight. Either way I'm BIG on Ortiz. The odds are a gift.
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    Ortiz is HUGE compared to Campbell. Campbell used to fight at 130 and he could probably still slim down to 135 if it wasn't for his age. Meanwhile Ortiz is a welterweight parading as a junior-welter. Some of you have questions about Ortiz' heart but I think its only made him less likely to quit. At the same time its made him less likely to press the fight. Either way I'm BIG on Ortiz. The odds are a gift.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 2:08 PM ET #12

    Good to see the good cappers on Ortiz here..my double with Ortiz and Andre Ward is placed. Lets go Victor!
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    Good to see the good cappers on Ortiz here..my double with Ortiz and Andre Ward is placed. Lets go Victor!
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 2:23 PM ET #13

    In the weigh-in photos, Campbell looks like a tired old man. 

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    In the weigh-in photos, Campbell looks like a tired old man. 

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 3:12 PM ET #14

    Locked in...

    Ortiz/Mitchell/Chisora/Malignaggi NOT to win ITD +200 [.5=1.1]
    Mitchell/Ortiz/Foreman/Ward @ +600 [.5=3.37]
    Michell ML [2.4=1.5]

    Might lock Ortiz ML in too. I got no problem with -200 tbh.

    Good luck fella's! peace handshake
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    Locked in...

    Ortiz/Mitchell/Chisora/Malignaggi NOT to win ITD +200 [.5=1.1]
    Mitchell/Ortiz/Foreman/Ward @ +600 [.5=3.37]
    Michell ML [2.4=1.5]

    Might lock Ortiz ML in too. I got no problem with -200 tbh.

    Good luck fella's! peace handshake
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 3:25 PM ET #15

    Chisora tko 2. 1 down 3 to go.
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    Chisora tko 2. 1 down 3 to go.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 3:28 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    McNulty I have just looked in Ortiz and doubled him up with Andre Ward. That means it pays out @evens. I am not confident but think he might be the play tonight..

    Melvin if you double him up with Andre Ward who I think is the bet of the year at -600 then you can get evens.



    How do you get even odds with a -200 & -600? Not really even close to even money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    McNulty I have just looked in Ortiz and doubled him up with Andre Ward. That means it pays out @evens. I am not confident but think he might be the play tonight..

    Melvin if you double him up with Andre Ward who I think is the bet of the year at -600 then you can get evens.



    How do you get even odds with a -200 & -600? Not really even close to even money.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:47 PM ET #17

    Thanks, but the ward isnt on my site yet. To esplanade, i didnt sign up to "plug my site" i dont care who uses what. i was just saying where i got my odds from. ortiz is up to -210. i would like to link with something, but i dont think ortiz/khan would pay close to even money on a two player parlay.

    Appreciate all the thoughts and best of luck tonight.

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    Thanks, but the ward isnt on my site yet. To esplanade, i didnt sign up to "plug my site" i dont care who uses what. i was just saying where i got my odds from. ortiz is up to -210. i would like to link with something, but i dont think ortiz/khan would pay close to even money on a two player parlay.

    Appreciate all the thoughts and best of luck tonight.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 10:49 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Ortiz is HUGE compared to Campbell. Campbell used to fight at 130 and he could probably still slim down to 135 if it wasn't for his age. Meanwhile Ortiz is a welterweight parading as a junior-welter. Some of you have questions about Ortiz' heart but I think its only made him less likely to quit. At the same time its made him less likely to press the fight. Either way I'm BIG on Ortiz. The odds are a gift.

    Dude I'd love to meet you and shake you hand. I read this 15 times and put a huge chunk of my roll on it. I can't thank you enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Ortiz is HUGE compared to Campbell. Campbell used to fight at 130 and he could probably still slim down to 135 if it wasn't for his age. Meanwhile Ortiz is a welterweight parading as a junior-welter. Some of you have questions about Ortiz' heart but I think its only made him less likely to quit. At the same time its made him less likely to press the fight. Either way I'm BIG on Ortiz. The odds are a gift.

    Dude I'd love to meet you and shake you hand. I read this 15 times and put a huge chunk of my roll on it. I can't thank you enough

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