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    Mosley fans, ask yourself this question

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    Syddigs
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 7:26 AM ET #1

    Why would Floyd decide to fight Mosley now after he has made it a habit throughout his career to duck risky or awkward opponents?

    Floyd and his corner have NEVER taken risks so why would they start now? To me this only makes me want to bet Mayweather, I will NOT be having any money on this fight as the line is too high about Floyd but the fact that he took this fight to me thinks it is a fight that he will win as he would not take a dangerous fight for any reason.

    My guessing is that PBF and his corner know that Mosley doesn't have much left, but Mosley's name is enough to sell tickets and to also look fantastic on Floyd's record. 

    Mosley is a hall of famer and is/was a great fighter, but he will have to press the action in order to either hit PBF or score points and this will play right into Floyd's hands. PBF will slice him up and that is why his " people " took what looks to be a dangerous fight on paper.

    PBF will win the first round and will lead all the way.

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    Why would Floyd decide to fight Mosley now after he has made it a habit throughout his career to duck risky or awkward opponents?

    Floyd and his corner have NEVER taken risks so why would they start now? To me this only makes me want to bet Mayweather, I will NOT be having any money on this fight as the line is too high about Floyd but the fact that he took this fight to me thinks it is a fight that he will win as he would not take a dangerous fight for any reason.

    My guessing is that PBF and his corner know that Mosley doesn't have much left, but Mosley's name is enough to sell tickets and to also look fantastic on Floyd's record. 

    Mosley is a hall of famer and is/was a great fighter, but he will have to press the action in order to either hit PBF or score points and this will play right into Floyd's hands. PBF will slice him up and that is why his " people " took what looks to be a dangerous fight on paper.

    PBF will win the first round and will lead all the way.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 9:40 AM ET #2

    Mosely is hardly washed up, Mayweather is about the money. A name like Mosely will ensure him a big payday. If he wasn't going to fight Pac-Man who else would have generated a big pay day for him?

    Second mouse gets the cheese.
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    Mosely is hardly washed up, Mayweather is about the money. A name like Mosely will ensure him a big payday. If he wasn't going to fight Pac-Man who else would have generated a big pay day for him?

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 10:52 AM ET #3

    From an X's and O's standpoint I truely believe Mosley is going to get countered to death in this fight, especially since it will be him initiating the exchanges......that's just my opinion. However, I will say this, SSM hasn't really made the HUGE money that he could have throughout his career (for numerous reasons). That said, this is an extraordinary opportunity for him not only to cash a big check here, but a potentially bigger one versus Manny if he's able to win. That type of motivation for a fighter at this stage of his career can be dangerous. And I don't think you can play the "washed up" card with him yet as he's one of those guys that is in shape year round (they last longer in the sport). I'd be more concerned about his inactivity since he was unable to fight Berto in January. Age + long layoffs will serve as a bigger detriment than just saying a guy is old. 

    He is clearly ready for this fight however, and he looked spectacular at yesterday's weigh-in (not that Money-May didn't). I agree with the poster that said the first few rounds are critical.....he can not afford to fall behind on the cards. I mean it's not like Mayweather is going to come to him. There will be minimal opportunities in this fight for Shane so he must capitalize on everyone. In essence, he has to fight a perfect fight to win. But he's wise and I think he's capable of doing so.

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    From an X's and O's standpoint I truely believe Mosley is going to get countered to death in this fight, especially since it will be him initiating the exchanges......that's just my opinion. However, I will say this, SSM hasn't really made the HUGE money that he could have throughout his career (for numerous reasons). That said, this is an extraordinary opportunity for him not only to cash a big check here, but a potentially bigger one versus Manny if he's able to win. That type of motivation for a fighter at this stage of his career can be dangerous. And I don't think you can play the "washed up" card with him yet as he's one of those guys that is in shape year round (they last longer in the sport). I'd be more concerned about his inactivity since he was unable to fight Berto in January. Age + long layoffs will serve as a bigger detriment than just saying a guy is old. 

    He is clearly ready for this fight however, and he looked spectacular at yesterday's weigh-in (not that Money-May didn't). I agree with the poster that said the first few rounds are critical.....he can not afford to fall behind on the cards. I mean it's not like Mayweather is going to come to him. There will be minimal opportunities in this fight for Shane so he must capitalize on everyone. In essence, he has to fight a perfect fight to win. But he's wise and I think he's capable of doing so.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 11:17 AM ET #4

    Mosley by Dec...
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    Mosley by Dec...
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 11:20 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    From an X's and O's standpoint I truely believe Mosley is going to get countered to death in this fight, especially since it will be him initiating the exchanges......that's just my opinion. However, I will say this, SSM hasn't really made the HUGE money that he could have throughout his career (for numerous reasons). That said, this is an extraordinary opportunity for him not only to cash a big check here, but a potentially bigger one versus Manny if he's able to win. That type of motivation for a fighter at this stage of his career can be dangerous. And I don't think you can play the "washed up" card with him yet as he's one of those guys that is in shape year round (they last longer in the sport). I'd be more concerned about his inactivity since he was unable to fight Berto in January. Age + long layoffs will serve as a bigger detriment than just saying a guy is old. 

    He is clearly ready for this fight however, and he looked spectacular at yesterday's weigh-in (not that Money-May didn't). I agree with the poster that said the first few rounds are critical.....he can not afford to fall behind on the cards. I mean it's not like Mayweather is going to come to him. There will be minimal opportunities in this fight for Shane so he must capitalize on everyone. In essence, he has to fight a perfect fight to win. But he's wise and I think he's capable of doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    From an X's and O's standpoint I truely believe Mosley is going to get countered to death in this fight, especially since it will be him initiating the exchanges......that's just my opinion. However, I will say this, SSM hasn't really made the HUGE money that he could have throughout his career (for numerous reasons). That said, this is an extraordinary opportunity for him not only to cash a big check here, but a potentially bigger one versus Manny if he's able to win. That type of motivation for a fighter at this stage of his career can be dangerous. And I don't think you can play the "washed up" card with him yet as he's one of those guys that is in shape year round (they last longer in the sport). I'd be more concerned about his inactivity since he was unable to fight Berto in January. Age + long layoffs will serve as a bigger detriment than just saying a guy is old. 

    He is clearly ready for this fight however, and he looked spectacular at yesterday's weigh-in (not that Money-May didn't). I agree with the poster that said the first few rounds are critical.....he can not afford to fall behind on the cards. I mean it's not like Mayweather is going to come to him. There will be minimal opportunities in this fight for Shane so he must capitalize on everyone. In essence, he has to fight a perfect fight to win. But he's wise and I think he's capable of doing so.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 11:21 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryRice80:

    Mosley by Dec...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryRice80:

    Mosley by Dec...
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 11:52 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

    Why would Floyd decide to fight Mosley now after he has made it a habit throughout his career to duck risky or awkward opponents?

    Floyd and his corner have NEVER taken risks so why would they start now? To me this only makes me want to bet Mayweather, I will NOT be having any money on this fight as the line is too high about Floyd but the fact that he took this fight to me thinks it is a fight that he will win as he would not take a dangerous fight for any reason.

    My guessing is that PBF and his corner know that Mosley doesn't have much left, but Mosley's name is enough to sell tickets and to also look fantastic on Floyd's record. 

    Mosley is a hall of famer and is/was a great fighter, but he will have to press the action in order to either hit PBF or score points and this will play right into Floyd's hands. PBF will slice him up and that is why his " people " took what looks to be a dangerous fight on paper.

    PBF will win the first round and will lead all the way.


    There wasn't another guy other than Pacquiao that would have generated this type of revenue. It's well known that Mayweather was/is in serious debt to the IRS and other people. He would have made less than 10 mil against any other guy. That wouldn't even break him even. He was forced into this fight because he needs the money. 

    He didn't select Mosley. It was his only option. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

    Why would Floyd decide to fight Mosley now after he has made it a habit throughout his career to duck risky or awkward opponents?

    Floyd and his corner have NEVER taken risks so why would they start now? To me this only makes me want to bet Mayweather, I will NOT be having any money on this fight as the line is too high about Floyd but the fact that he took this fight to me thinks it is a fight that he will win as he would not take a dangerous fight for any reason.

    My guessing is that PBF and his corner know that Mosley doesn't have much left, but Mosley's name is enough to sell tickets and to also look fantastic on Floyd's record. 

    Mosley is a hall of famer and is/was a great fighter, but he will have to press the action in order to either hit PBF or score points and this will play right into Floyd's hands. PBF will slice him up and that is why his " people " took what looks to be a dangerous fight on paper.

    PBF will win the first round and will lead all the way.


    There wasn't another guy other than Pacquiao that would have generated this type of revenue. It's well known that Mayweather was/is in serious debt to the IRS and other people. He would have made less than 10 mil against any other guy. That wouldn't even break him even. He was forced into this fight because he needs the money. 

    He didn't select Mosley. It was his only option. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    There wasn't another guy other than Pacquiao that would have generated this type of revenue. It's well known that Mayweather was/is in serious debt to the IRS and other people. He would have made less than 10 mil against any other guy. That wouldn't even break him even. He was forced into this fight because he needs the money. 

    He didn't select Mosley. It was his only option. 


    It was financially smarter to fight Mosley.  If he loses to Mosley, he gets an automatic rematch with Mosley (its in the contract).  If he beats Mosley, the Pacqiauo fight gets even bigger.  If he loses to Mosley twice, then Pacqiauo would have embarassed him.  Plus, the longer he makes Pacqiuao wait, the better off he is, because Pacqiauo is running for Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    There wasn't another guy other than Pacquiao that would have generated this type of revenue. It's well known that Mayweather was/is in serious debt to the IRS and other people. He would have made less than 10 mil against any other guy. That wouldn't even break him even. He was forced into this fight because he needs the money. 

    He didn't select Mosley. It was his only option. 


    It was financially smarter to fight Mosley.  If he loses to Mosley, he gets an automatic rematch with Mosley (its in the contract).  If he beats Mosley, the Pacqiauo fight gets even bigger.  If he loses to Mosley twice, then Pacqiauo would have embarassed him.  Plus, the longer he makes Pacqiuao wait, the better off he is, because Pacqiauo is running for Congress.
     
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    Floyd is making 40 million for this fight with Mosley to only 10 million for Mosley. A fight with Pac would have required a 50-50 split. Floyd is about the money and with a rematch clause even if he loses twice he stands to make 70-80 million. He already said he judges his legacy by the money he makes not the belts he wins. I think anyone who thinks Floyd runs over Mosley is way off. I like the over which I can get now at 3-1 and im taking Mosley because the odds are too juicy to pass up. IMO Floyd has hand picked his opponents and at this point in his career nobody is going to pay him the money he wants to fight anyone other then SSM or Pac. Put up or shut up time for Floyd.

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    Floyd is making 40 million for this fight with Mosley to only 10 million for Mosley. A fight with Pac would have required a 50-50 split. Floyd is about the money and with a rematch clause even if he loses twice he stands to make 70-80 million. He already said he judges his legacy by the money he makes not the belts he wins. I think anyone who thinks Floyd runs over Mosley is way off. I like the over which I can get now at 3-1 and im taking Mosley because the odds are too juicy to pass up. IMO Floyd has hand picked his opponents and at this point in his career nobody is going to pay him the money he wants to fight anyone other then SSM or Pac. Put up or shut up time for Floyd.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLouie:

    Floyd is making 40 million for this fight with Mosley to only 10 million for Mosley.

    Wrong !!

    Mayweather is making 22.5 mill dollars to fight Mosley, and Shane will get up to 7 million

    Dont post things when you dont know what you're talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLouie:

    Floyd is making 40 million for this fight with Mosley to only 10 million for Mosley.

    Wrong !!

    Mayweather is making 22.5 mill dollars to fight Mosley, and Shane will get up to 7 million

    Dont post things when you dont know what you're talking about

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 1:20 PM ET #11

    learn what your talking about buddy...that number is with similar ppv buys as the marquez fight....if the fight reaches 2 mil ppv buys like expected Floyd makes 58 million. https://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/05/01/boxing.mayweather.mosley.hbo.vegas/index.html?section=cnn_latest

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    learn what your talking about buddy...that number is with similar ppv buys as the marquez fight....if the fight reaches 2 mil ppv buys like expected Floyd makes 58 million. https://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/05/01/boxing.mayweather.mosley.hbo.vegas/index.html?section=cnn_latest

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 1:25 PM ET #12

    What other info do you need to see? Sorry, but I know what Im talking about:

    In a recent interview with ESPN's Brian Kenny, Mayweather revealed that he will make an estimated $40 million off the upcoming bout. The number is so high, of course, because Floyd is the head of Mayweather Promotions, which is staging the event along with Golden Boy. Mayweather then does not relinquish any of his purse, as he is essentially his own management team.

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    What other info do you need to see? Sorry, but I know what Im talking about:

    In a recent interview with ESPN's Brian Kenny, Mayweather revealed that he will make an estimated $40 million off the upcoming bout. The number is so high, of course, because Floyd is the head of Mayweather Promotions, which is staging the event along with Golden Boy. Mayweather then does not relinquish any of his purse, as he is essentially his own management team.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 2:01 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by tlml1899:

    Wrong !!

    Mayweather is making 22.5 mill dollars to fight Mosley, and Shane will get up to 7 million

    Dont post things when you dont know what you're talking about



    Actually, if you're going to be a fucking smart ass about it, you should probably know what YOU'RE talking about.  Mayweather is making 22.5 million BEFORE ppv buys, and other revenue sources are factored in.  He will make close to 40 million for this fight. 

    Carry on with not knowing damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlml1899:

    Wrong !!

    Mayweather is making 22.5 mill dollars to fight Mosley, and Shane will get up to 7 million

    Dont post things when you dont know what you're talking about



    Actually, if you're going to be a fucking smart ass about it, you should probably know what YOU'RE talking about.  Mayweather is making 22.5 million BEFORE ppv buys, and other revenue sources are factored in.  He will make close to 40 million for this fight. 

    Carry on with not knowing damn thing.
     
    LuckyLouie
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 2:53 PM ET #14

    What is your point? is that your boyfriend you are defending? lol... My first statement said Floyd will make 40 million, which he will, probably more...did I say what his fight purse was? Did I say what he bet on the fight? The point was that without fighting Pac or Mosley there would be most likely under 1 million ppv buys which stops him from making the "big" money. His take doubles in this fight thanks to ppv. Floyd is about the money and that is why this fight finally happened.
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    What is your point? is that your boyfriend you are defending? lol... My first statement said Floyd will make 40 million, which he will, probably more...did I say what his fight purse was? Did I say what he bet on the fight? The point was that without fighting Pac or Mosley there would be most likely under 1 million ppv buys which stops him from making the "big" money. His take doubles in this fight thanks to ppv. Floyd is about the money and that is why this fight finally happened.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 4:15 PM ET #15

    Once again.... You gotta love comming in here and everyone saying..."HE'S ABOUT THE MONEY"... Very good!!  No SHI$!! Any smart business man should be, but he is also undefeated!!!  Hey Lucky.... you say he hand picked his oppenents???? Did he dodge someone??? NO!! So go ahead.... put your scared money on the dog, cause your cant afford the favorite....

    Good nite SUGAR! Your just too slow!!

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    Once again.... You gotta love comming in here and everyone saying..."HE'S ABOUT THE MONEY"... Very good!!  No SHI$!! Any smart business man should be, but he is also undefeated!!!  Hey Lucky.... you say he hand picked his oppenents???? Did he dodge someone??? NO!! So go ahead.... put your scared money on the dog, cause your cant afford the favorite....

    Good nite SUGAR! Your just too slow!!

     
     
    McNulty
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 4:18 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

    Why would Floyd decide to fight Mosley now after he has made it a habit throughout his career to duck risky or awkward opponents?

    Source? He's fought a lot of risky fights. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

    Why would Floyd decide to fight Mosley now after he has made it a habit throughout his career to duck risky or awkward opponents?

    Source? He's fought a lot of risky fights. 
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