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    More boxing this weekend! Garcia-Judah...let's talk about it

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    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2013 - 5:42 PM ET #1

    this summer is filled with fight after fight, we have another good fight this weekend, Garcia vs Judah.  I'm a big fan of Garcia, a very solid fighter with a good amatuer backround with power in both hands, and I grew up a fan of Judah so this is a veru jard fight to bet on for me.  

    Does Zab survive this fight (over 9.5 +165)?  Zab has fought the best win or lose, much like Chop Chop, he has seen Garcia style before growing up on the east coast, I think he may be live here @ 4-1.  The over looks good as well.  Then again you have to consider his age, stamina, and Garcia is a young strong fighter who is very big @ 140 who is a very good puncher and works the body extremely well.  Very good right hand to the body and you know about his left hook

    I think this is a very hard fight to bet on, like the fight we just saw, we didn't know how good Canelo was, we don't lnow how good Garcia is.  I like the over in this fight, Zab might just try to survive after feeling Garcia power...I'll bank on that.  Tough fight to bet on though.  
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    this summer is filled with fight after fight, we have another good fight this weekend, Garcia vs Judah.  I'm a big fan of Garcia, a very solid fighter with a good amatuer backround with power in both hands, and I grew up a fan of Judah so this is a veru jard fight to bet on for me.  

    Does Zab survive this fight (over 9.5 +165)?  Zab has fought the best win or lose, much like Chop Chop, he has seen Garcia style before growing up on the east coast, I think he may be live here @ 4-1.  The over looks good as well.  Then again you have to consider his age, stamina, and Garcia is a young strong fighter who is very big @ 140 who is a very good puncher and works the body extremely well.  Very good right hand to the body and you know about his left hook

    I think this is a very hard fight to bet on, like the fight we just saw, we didn't know how good Canelo was, we don't lnow how good Garcia is.  I like the over in this fight, Zab might just try to survive after feeling Garcia power...I'll bank on that.  Tough fight to bet on though.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2013 - 11:27 PM ET #2

    Judah has been washed up for a long time. He is just an opponent at this stage. He got a BIG gift against Matthysse. Garcia is too young, too fast and too strong. Garcia ML, just have to put up big money though.
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    Judah has been washed up for a long time. He is just an opponent at this stage. He got a BIG gift against Matthysse. Garcia is too young, too fast and too strong. Garcia ML, just have to put up big money though.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 2:40 AM ET #3

    Over 9.5 all day. 
    What Judah has lost in stamina and reflexes, he's made up for in experience and a new found dedication.
    Garcia's best punch is his left hook but you can tell he's too in love with that punch right now because all his weight is always on his left foot. Garcia puts full leverage on all his power shots, but he loops them and telegraphs them with his feet (BTW Canelo does a good job of hiding his power shots - especially for a young fighter).
    Judah has both the speed and skill set to time Garcia and punch inside his wide looping punches. Judah also has better footwork than Garcia to extend the fight if necessary. Either fighter getting KO'd is a possibility, especially with Judah's track record and Garcia's wide open power punching, but I like the over.
    If Judah gets rocked early I'm banking on his superior footwork and ability to read Garcia's telegraphs to extend the fight. If Garcia gets rocked early I'm banking on his undefeated mentality (doesn't know how to lose) to keep him going.
    I put money on the over back when it was +175 and now its +165. I'm predicting it goes all the way down to +145.

    BTW Jerseyboy89 I congratulate on your recent wins and commend you on giving more in-depth analysis than in the past. I used to think you were obnoxious with your headlines, opinionated posts with little analysis, and picking every underdog. Let's keep the discussions civil and actually try to inform each other. The ish talking is unnecessary.
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    Over 9.5 all day. 
    What Judah has lost in stamina and reflexes, he's made up for in experience and a new found dedication.
    Garcia's best punch is his left hook but you can tell he's too in love with that punch right now because all his weight is always on his left foot. Garcia puts full leverage on all his power shots, but he loops them and telegraphs them with his feet (BTW Canelo does a good job of hiding his power shots - especially for a young fighter).
    Judah has both the speed and skill set to time Garcia and punch inside his wide looping punches. Judah also has better footwork than Garcia to extend the fight if necessary. Either fighter getting KO'd is a possibility, especially with Judah's track record and Garcia's wide open power punching, but I like the over.
    If Judah gets rocked early I'm banking on his superior footwork and ability to read Garcia's telegraphs to extend the fight. If Garcia gets rocked early I'm banking on his undefeated mentality (doesn't know how to lose) to keep him going.
    I put money on the over back when it was +175 and now its +165. I'm predicting it goes all the way down to +145.

    BTW Jerseyboy89 I congratulate on your recent wins and commend you on giving more in-depth analysis than in the past. I used to think you were obnoxious with your headlines, opinionated posts with little analysis, and picking every underdog. Let's keep the discussions civil and actually try to inform each other. The ish talking is unnecessary.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 3:16 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Over 9.5 all day. 
    What Judah has lost in stamina and reflexes, he's made up for in experience and a new found dedication.
    Garcia's best punch is his left hook but you can tell he's too in love with that punch right now because all his weight is always on his left foot. Garcia puts full leverage on all his power shots, but he loops them and telegraphs them with his feet (BTW Canelo does a good job of hiding his power shots - especially for a young fighter).
    Judah has both the speed and skill set to time Garcia and punch inside his wide looping punches. Judah also has better footwork than Garcia to extend the fight if necessary. Either fighter getting KO'd is a possibility, especially with Judah's track record and Garcia's wide open power punching, but I like the over.
    If Judah gets rocked early I'm banking on his superior footwork and ability to read Garcia's telegraphs to extend the fight. If Garcia gets rocked early I'm banking on his undefeated mentality (doesn't know how to lose) to keep him going.
    I put money on the over back when it was +175 and now its +165. I'm predicting it goes all the way down to +145.

    BTW Jerseyboy89 I congratulate on your recent wins and commend you on giving more in-depth analysis than in the past. I used to think you were obnoxious with your headlines, opinionated posts with little analysis, and picking every underdog. Let's keep the discussions civil and actually try to inform each other. The ish talking is unnecessary.


    The over is good, and I pounded it when it came out @ +175.  But tread carefully, Danny Garcia is much better fighter than people give him credit for.  Like Canelo, he's improving in every fight and gaining confidence and it's very obvious.  You add a potential Mayweather fight and big $ fights, he will be extremely motivated and focused.  

    The one thing I'm concerned about on the over is Judah getting hurt early or feeling how strong Garcia is (he's a very big and strong 140lb who will be fighting @ 147 soon), and not getting the respect of Garcia who will begin to walk Zab down.  I assure you, if you believe Khan was on his way to beating Garcia before that knockdown you're very wrong.  Take a look at Garcia body shots, he's an extremely good body puncher with a good right to the body and we know Zab doesn't like it there.  THis is a very hard fight to bet on like I said.  

    Zab has a very good defense for hooks though, it's normally straight shots and body work that gets him outta there.  I'm banking on him using distance and potentially outboxing him or hoping on the bike and surviving the fight.  


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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Over 9.5 all day. 
    What Judah has lost in stamina and reflexes, he's made up for in experience and a new found dedication.
    Garcia's best punch is his left hook but you can tell he's too in love with that punch right now because all his weight is always on his left foot. Garcia puts full leverage on all his power shots, but he loops them and telegraphs them with his feet (BTW Canelo does a good job of hiding his power shots - especially for a young fighter).
    Judah has both the speed and skill set to time Garcia and punch inside his wide looping punches. Judah also has better footwork than Garcia to extend the fight if necessary. Either fighter getting KO'd is a possibility, especially with Judah's track record and Garcia's wide open power punching, but I like the over.
    If Judah gets rocked early I'm banking on his superior footwork and ability to read Garcia's telegraphs to extend the fight. If Garcia gets rocked early I'm banking on his undefeated mentality (doesn't know how to lose) to keep him going.
    I put money on the over back when it was +175 and now its +165. I'm predicting it goes all the way down to +145.

    BTW Jerseyboy89 I congratulate on your recent wins and commend you on giving more in-depth analysis than in the past. I used to think you were obnoxious with your headlines, opinionated posts with little analysis, and picking every underdog. Let's keep the discussions civil and actually try to inform each other. The ish talking is unnecessary.


    The over is good, and I pounded it when it came out @ +175.  But tread carefully, Danny Garcia is much better fighter than people give him credit for.  Like Canelo, he's improving in every fight and gaining confidence and it's very obvious.  You add a potential Mayweather fight and big $ fights, he will be extremely motivated and focused.  

    The one thing I'm concerned about on the over is Judah getting hurt early or feeling how strong Garcia is (he's a very big and strong 140lb who will be fighting @ 147 soon), and not getting the respect of Garcia who will begin to walk Zab down.  I assure you, if you believe Khan was on his way to beating Garcia before that knockdown you're very wrong.  Take a look at Garcia body shots, he's an extremely good body puncher with a good right to the body and we know Zab doesn't like it there.  THis is a very hard fight to bet on like I said.  

    Zab has a very good defense for hooks though, it's normally straight shots and body work that gets him outta there.  I'm banking on him using distance and potentially outboxing him or hoping on the bike and surviving the fight.  


     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 5:05 AM ET #5

    Garcia is overrated.. Judah is live dog..

    Dont get me wrong, garcia is a tough hard punching fighter..

    But he cant throw straight punches, hes a 100% hooker. ALL of his punches are looping..

    Zab has all the tools to beat Garcia, but i do t know if Zab has the heart..

    zab has to box his behind off, i think he has a damn good chsnce to pull the upset.. Judah looked AWESOME vs Vernon, but Vernon P was a bum..

    The play here is, judah to win, hedged with garcia by KO...
    If Judah last, that means hes doing something right and probably in the fight.. 

    I like the over as well fellas
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    Garcia is overrated.. Judah is live dog..

    Dont get me wrong, garcia is a tough hard punching fighter..

    But he cant throw straight punches, hes a 100% hooker. ALL of his punches are looping..

    Zab has all the tools to beat Garcia, but i do t know if Zab has the heart..

    zab has to box his behind off, i think he has a damn good chsnce to pull the upset.. Judah looked AWESOME vs Vernon, but Vernon P was a bum..

    The play here is, judah to win, hedged with garcia by KO...
    If Judah last, that means hes doing something right and probably in the fight.. 

    I like the over as well fellas
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2013 - 11:07 PM ET #6

    zab was live here, he fought great, proud of him I thought he would wilt but he came back strong.  over hit big.
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    zab was live here, he fought great, proud of him I thought he would wilt but he came back strong.  over hit big.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2013 - 11:46 PM ET #7

    I agree with you, Jerseyboy89. I thought that Judah would look for a soft spot on the canvas and take a nap. He should have done more early though.
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    I agree with you, Jerseyboy89. I thought that Judah would look for a soft spot on the canvas and take a nap. He should have done more early though.
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