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    Morales vs Garcia

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    jaime2309
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 3:41 PM ET #1

    Any thoughts from anyone?
    All about the chase
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 4:07 PM ET #2

    I' ve seen Garcia -850 with the take back around + 575 . Honestly, the price tag on Garcia is inflated largely because of the Khan fight (and I'm not sure that is justified). Age is obviously a factor too as far as pricing perception is concerned.

    Do I think Morales will win? No.

    But I can promise you this,  Morales has been in the ring with way more talent and skill than he'll be seeing Saturday. That certainly doesn't mean he will win but when a guy that should be a 4 or 5:1 favorite is almost 9:1 you take a shot on the dog or look for something else.

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    I' ve seen Garcia -850 with the take back around + 575 . Honestly, the price tag on Garcia is inflated largely because of the Khan fight (and I'm not sure that is justified). Age is obviously a factor too as far as pricing perception is concerned.

    Do I think Morales will win? No.

    But I can promise you this,  Morales has been in the ring with way more talent and skill than he'll be seeing Saturday. That certainly doesn't mean he will win but when a guy that should be a 4 or 5:1 favorite is almost 9:1 you take a shot on the dog or look for something else.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #3

    I think the odds are about right, I have always been a big fan of morales, but he needs to call it a career, it's over for him, or at least go on the seniors tour so to speak and fight other past their prime fighters who continue to fight, right now he is delusional, I would go as far as saying he has NO shot to win this one, none.... I could not care any less about this fight,   but I would like to see morales vs barrera 4....
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    I think the odds are about right, I have always been a big fan of morales, but he needs to call it a career, it's over for him, or at least go on the seniors tour so to speak and fight other past their prime fighters who continue to fight, right now he is delusional, I would go as far as saying he has NO shot to win this one, none.... I could not care any less about this fight,   but I would like to see morales vs barrera 4....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 6:38 PM ET #4

    Yeah at first glance, I thought the same. There is no way that Morales can win this fight, but at 9/1 odds, hell some have him as a 12/1 dog, man it makes me want to throw half a unit on this. Ive seen crazier shit happen.
    Garcia says he had too much respect for him in the first fight and will not do that again in the second fight....... mmmmmmm, I've heard a lot of boxers say that before a fight and come fight night they end up on the short end.....


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    Yeah at first glance, I thought the same. There is no way that Morales can win this fight, but at 9/1 odds, hell some have him as a 12/1 dog, man it makes me want to throw half a unit on this. Ive seen crazier shit happen.
    Garcia says he had too much respect for him in the first fight and will not do that again in the second fight....... mmmmmmm, I've heard a lot of boxers say that before a fight and come fight night they end up on the short end.....


     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 1:37 PM ET #5

    Morales is done. He will have moments that will make you smile and think of the old days, but then Garcia will take over like the last fight. He has everything to learn from. Morales won't be doing anything different.

    Out of all the fights this weekend I like Bailey the most as an underdog. The odds for him to win by KO will be something in the 800's going by his odds SU. Alexander is not a defensive guy he gets hit regularly. It's worth taking a shot.

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    Morales is done. He will have moments that will make you smile and think of the old days, but then Garcia will take over like the last fight. He has everything to learn from. Morales won't be doing anything different.

    Out of all the fights this weekend I like Bailey the most as an underdog. The odds for him to win by KO will be something in the 800's going by his odds SU. Alexander is not a defensive guy he gets hit regularly. It's worth taking a shot.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 11:19 PM ET #6

    Quillin by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds

    Devon will hold and clinch his way to a victory. Big favorite

    Garcia by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds. The ref might stop this one as Morales is just too tough to quit.

    The odds here have been dropping like a stone.Malignaggi down to -390 but still see by easy decision or a stoppage on cuts. Going with the over here also and laying a little more than 3 -1

    Good Luck everyone on whatever you decide   

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    Quillin by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds

    Devon will hold and clinch his way to a victory. Big favorite

    Garcia by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds. The ref might stop this one as Morales is just too tough to quit.

    The odds here have been dropping like a stone.Malignaggi down to -390 but still see by easy decision or a stoppage on cuts. Going with the over here also and laying a little more than 3 -1

    Good Luck everyone on whatever you decide   

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 11:21 PM ET #7

    Quillin by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds

    Devon will hold and clinch his way to a victory. Big favorite

    Garcia by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds. The ref might stop this one as Morales is just too tough to quit.

    The odds here have been dropping like a stone.Malignaggi down to -390 but still see by easy decision or a stoppage on cuts. Going with the over here also and laying a little more than 3 -1

    Good Luck everyone on whatever you decide   

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    Quillin by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds

    Devon will hold and clinch his way to a victory. Big favorite

    Garcia by way of a knockout, so ITD at plus odds. The ref might stop this one as Morales is just too tough to quit.

    The odds here have been dropping like a stone.Malignaggi down to -390 but still see by easy decision or a stoppage on cuts. Going with the over here also and laying a little more than 3 -1

    Good Luck everyone on whatever you decide   

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2012 - 12:59 AM ET #8

    Peter Quillin +Paulie $200 to win 160. (Parlay)

    Small play on Alexander/Bailey//  Over 9.5 -145  parlayed with Garcia/ Morales UNDER 10.5 +125 -  $40 to win 112 (Parlay)

    Bailey is doing better since moving up in weight, he has probably one of the best one punch knockout in boxing but Alexander will make this an ugly fight.. and after Bailey weakens after the first 5 rounds... Alexander will win a sloppy unimpressive victory.

    Garcia riding high, gave Morales too much respect the first time, weight being a factor the first time means Morales will slow down and probably have rubber legs after boxing well the first half of the fight.

    Given he's a legend and belongs retired, Ref/corner will have Mercy on him and end it. I don't think Morales is just coming for a paycheck, think he will try hard and give his best first half of the fight.

    Anyways, that's my take on these fights... hope everyone enjoys the fights and whichever side your on GOOD LUCK!

                                               


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    Peter Quillin +Paulie $200 to win 160. (Parlay)

    Small play on Alexander/Bailey//  Over 9.5 -145  parlayed with Garcia/ Morales UNDER 10.5 +125 -  $40 to win 112 (Parlay)

    Bailey is doing better since moving up in weight, he has probably one of the best one punch knockout in boxing but Alexander will make this an ugly fight.. and after Bailey weakens after the first 5 rounds... Alexander will win a sloppy unimpressive victory.

    Garcia riding high, gave Morales too much respect the first time, weight being a factor the first time means Morales will slow down and probably have rubber legs after boxing well the first half of the fight.

    Given he's a legend and belongs retired, Ref/corner will have Mercy on him and end it. I don't think Morales is just coming for a paycheck, think he will try hard and give his best first half of the fight.

    Anyways, that's my take on these fights... hope everyone enjoys the fights and whichever side your on GOOD LUCK!

                                               


     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2012 - 10:14 PM ET #9

    I have o/u 9.5 on Garcia fight. Still like under?
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    I have o/u 9.5 on Garcia fight. Still like under?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:17 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Peter Quillin +Paulie $200 to win 160. (Parlay)

    Small play on Alexander/Bailey//  Over 9.5 -145  parlayed with Garcia/ Morales UNDER 10.5 +125 -  $40 to win 112 (Parlay)

    Bailey is doing better since moving up in weight, he has probably one of the best one punch knockout in boxing but Alexander will make this an ugly fight.. and after Bailey weakens after the first 5 rounds... Alexander will win a sloppy unimpressive victory.

    Garcia riding high, gave Morales too much respect the first time, weight being a factor the first time means Morales will slow down and probably have rubber legs after boxing well the first half of the fight.

    Given he's a legend and belongs retired, Ref/corner will have Mercy on him and end it. I don't think Morales is just coming for a paycheck, think he will try hard and give his best first half of the fight.

    Anyways, that's my take on these fights... hope everyone enjoys the fights and whichever side your on GOOD LUCK!

                                               



    Good job Rich. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Peter Quillin +Paulie $200 to win 160. (Parlay)

    Small play on Alexander/Bailey//  Over 9.5 -145  parlayed with Garcia/ Morales UNDER 10.5 +125 -  $40 to win 112 (Parlay)

    Bailey is doing better since moving up in weight, he has probably one of the best one punch knockout in boxing but Alexander will make this an ugly fight.. and after Bailey weakens after the first 5 rounds... Alexander will win a sloppy unimpressive victory.

    Garcia riding high, gave Morales too much respect the first time, weight being a factor the first time means Morales will slow down and probably have rubber legs after boxing well the first half of the fight.

    Given he's a legend and belongs retired, Ref/corner will have Mercy on him and end it. I don't think Morales is just coming for a paycheck, think he will try hard and give his best first half of the fight.

    Anyways, that's my take on these fights... hope everyone enjoys the fights and whichever side your on GOOD LUCK!

                                               



    Good job Rich. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:21 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Good job Rich. 


    Thanks Walk looks like you won nicely with Garcia and ITD..!

    Let's hope for another good boxing card.

    Good job as always,
               
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Good job Rich. 


    Thanks Walk looks like you won nicely with Garcia and ITD..!

    Let's hope for another good boxing card.

    Good job as always,
               
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 1:32 AM ET #12

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 2:08 AM ET #13

    Just got home from Barclays, what a great night of boxing. Disappointed in the size of the crowd, Thousands of empty seats. Hope you guys had a winning night  
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    Just got home from Barclays, what a great night of boxing. Disappointed in the size of the crowd, Thousands of empty seats. Hope you guys had a winning night  
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