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    MARQUEZ BACK OFF...

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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 4:40 AM ET #1

    This sore loser mexican should just back off. This guy is no way near professional when up until now he still denies losing to Manny Pacquiao. He is like a child who cant just accept defeat. Come on during the first fight I dont care if you got back for the draw, the fact that you fell three times in the first round should let you know that you already lost the fight. Remember one judge ADMITTING he got the score wrong and should have given Manny 10-6 on the first round which should have given him the fight? Have you heard about Manny complaining about it or protesting? NO because he is way more a professional than you. You also just got lucky the three knockdown rule was removed for your fight if not then you would not have proven to your promoter you are still bankable. In the second fight, you may have gotten the draw again but your are just so stupid to be knocked down again by a single punch!!!! and then you demand to be the winner when you just gave the judges a reason to break the draw...????
     
    Anyway, Marquez also keeps on saying that Manny is afraid of him. I just want to remind this insane boxer that you have not won against Manny Pacquiao and he has proven that he can knock you down three times in 1 round for a total for four times in the two fights. So by saying this you are just proving yourself to be uneducated who does not only know how to be professional and accept defeat. I also want to say that Manny is fighting a future hall of famer right now in Oscar and that this decision of his would hopefully shut your mouth into saying that he is afraid of fighting whoever, especially your stupid self.
     
    MARQUEZ stop whinning and just do your job just accept the fact that MANNY is too much and too high to reach for you.
     
     
     
     
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    This sore loser mexican should just back off. This guy is no way near professional when up until now he still denies losing to Manny Pacquiao. He is like a child who cant just accept defeat. Come on during the first fight I dont care if you got back for the draw, the fact that you fell three times in the first round should let you know that you already lost the fight. Remember one judge ADMITTING he got the score wrong and should have given Manny 10-6 on the first round which should have given him the fight? Have you heard about Manny complaining about it or protesting? NO because he is way more a professional than you. You also just got lucky the three knockdown rule was removed for your fight if not then you would not have proven to your promoter you are still bankable. In the second fight, you may have gotten the draw again but your are just so stupid to be knocked down again by a single punch!!!! and then you demand to be the winner when you just gave the judges a reason to break the draw...????
     
    Anyway, Marquez also keeps on saying that Manny is afraid of him. I just want to remind this insane boxer that you have not won against Manny Pacquiao and he has proven that he can knock you down three times in 1 round for a total for four times in the two fights. So by saying this you are just proving yourself to be uneducated who does not only know how to be professional and accept defeat. I also want to say that Manny is fighting a future hall of famer right now in Oscar and that this decision of his would hopefully shut your mouth into saying that he is afraid of fighting whoever, especially your stupid self.
     
    MARQUEZ stop whinning and just do your job just accept the fact that MANNY is too much and too high to reach for you.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 3:59 PM ET #2



    Uh.  So since Marquez got knocked down three times in the 1st round against Manny the first time out he should not call him out?  He had two bad rounds against Manny that resulted in 4 KD's total.  I think a lot of people would agree with me when I say that I have JMM ahead in the 23 rounds following the 1st round of their opening fight.  I thought he won the 2nd fight and even with the KD's the first fight could have gone either way depending on what you were scoring (harder shots in relation to clean accurate consistent ones).

    The fight will happen eventually in 09 after Manny gets beat by DLH.  There will be a lot of money in a third fight and Marquez holds the linear belt at 135 so it makes a ton of sense.  I will probably on JMM again especially if Manny takes some punishment from Oscar.  In regards to your closing statement, Manny it not too much and not a high reach at all.
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    Uh.  So since Marquez got knocked down three times in the 1st round against Manny the first time out he should not call him out?  He had two bad rounds against Manny that resulted in 4 KD's total.  I think a lot of people would agree with me when I say that I have JMM ahead in the 23 rounds following the 1st round of their opening fight.  I thought he won the 2nd fight and even with the KD's the first fight could have gone either way depending on what you were scoring (harder shots in relation to clean accurate consistent ones).

    The fight will happen eventually in 09 after Manny gets beat by DLH.  There will be a lot of money in a third fight and Marquez holds the linear belt at 135 so it makes a ton of sense.  I will probably on JMM again especially if Manny takes some punishment from Oscar.  In regards to your closing statement, Manny it not too much and not a high reach at all.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 4:16 PM ET #3

    I dont care about JMM calling out MP, not at all because its his right to call out or earn money for himself but the way JMM has been calling out MP is so ridiculous. MP is scared MP did not win etc. Its just so unprofessional in a way. Its just stupid how he whines and whines about the draw when in fact he should have lost and the loss that he really should have lost.
     
    As I said Judge admits his mistake when he did not score 10-6 for pacquiao as what the other judges did. 3 knockdowns in 1 round would have made that mandatory. As I said no way JMM won 2nd fight, at the least a draw but no way a win for JMM.
     
    As for Oscar dela Hoya, be careful in grabbing the tasty line for Oscar. You will get burned when MP shows up beating the pretty face of Oscar.
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    I dont care about JMM calling out MP, not at all because its his right to call out or earn money for himself but the way JMM has been calling out MP is so ridiculous. MP is scared MP did not win etc. Its just so unprofessional in a way. Its just stupid how he whines and whines about the draw when in fact he should have lost and the loss that he really should have lost.
     
    As I said Judge admits his mistake when he did not score 10-6 for pacquiao as what the other judges did. 3 knockdowns in 1 round would have made that mandatory. As I said no way JMM won 2nd fight, at the least a draw but no way a win for JMM.
     
    As for Oscar dela Hoya, be careful in grabbing the tasty line for Oscar. You will get burned when MP shows up beating the pretty face of Oscar.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 4:24 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    I dont care about JMM calling out MP, not at all because its his right to call out or earn money for himself but the way JMM has been calling out MP is so ridiculous. MP is scared MP did not win etc. Its just so unprofessional in a way. Its just stupid how he whines and whines about the draw when in fact he should have lost and the loss that he really should have lost.
     
    As I said Judge admits his mistake when he did not score 10-6 for pacquiao as what the other judges did. 3 knockdowns in 1 round would have made that mandatory. As I said no way JMM won 2nd fight, at the least a draw but no way a win for JMM.
     
    As for Oscar dela Hoya, be careful in grabbing the tasty line for Oscar. You will get burned when MP shows up beating the pretty face of Oscar.


    Lol, your right all of these guys who agreed with me are idiots also for scoring the 2nd fight for Marquez.

    - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
    - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
    - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
    - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
    - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
    - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
    - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
    - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
    - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
    - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
    - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
    - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
    - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
    - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
    - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
    - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
    - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
    - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Bert Sugar:Marquez
    - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
    - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez

    I have a strong suspicion that you are Phillipino.  Don't know why Donaire was even on that list, but it's pretty funny seeing as how he is a countryman of Manny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    I dont care about JMM calling out MP, not at all because its his right to call out or earn money for himself but the way JMM has been calling out MP is so ridiculous. MP is scared MP did not win etc. Its just so unprofessional in a way. Its just stupid how he whines and whines about the draw when in fact he should have lost and the loss that he really should have lost.
     
    As I said Judge admits his mistake when he did not score 10-6 for pacquiao as what the other judges did. 3 knockdowns in 1 round would have made that mandatory. As I said no way JMM won 2nd fight, at the least a draw but no way a win for JMM.
     
    As for Oscar dela Hoya, be careful in grabbing the tasty line for Oscar. You will get burned when MP shows up beating the pretty face of Oscar.


    Lol, your right all of these guys who agreed with me are idiots also for scoring the 2nd fight for Marquez.

    - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
    - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
    - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
    - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
    - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
    - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
    - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
    - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
    - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
    - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
    - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
    - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
    - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
    - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
    - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
    - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
    - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
    - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
    - Bert Sugar:Marquez
    - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
    - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez

    I have a strong suspicion that you are Phillipino.  Don't know why Donaire was even on that list, but it's pretty funny seeing as how he is a countryman of Manny.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 5:21 PM ET #5

    I also have a strong feeling that you are Mexican. As I said could have been a draw or yes a win for JMM BUT he gave away a reason not too. Everyone knows that one punch can change everything and he might have had the fight but he gave away that punch that changed everything. This is boxing and its either you win by KO and make it objective or subject the fight to subjective scoring by not doing so. JMM kept on saying fans booed when MP was declared the winner so he is the winner, its so stupid because I was there and Mexicans occupied 70% of the stadium. I understand about JMM wanting to make money out MP's popularity because he is not but be professional in doing so.   
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    I also have a strong feeling that you are Mexican. As I said could have been a draw or yes a win for JMM BUT he gave away a reason not too. Everyone knows that one punch can change everything and he might have had the fight but he gave away that punch that changed everything. This is boxing and its either you win by KO and make it objective or subject the fight to subjective scoring by not doing so. JMM kept on saying fans booed when MP was declared the winner so he is the winner, its so stupid because I was there and Mexicans occupied 70% of the stadium. I understand about JMM wanting to make money out MP's popularity because he is not but be professional in doing so.   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 6:20 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    I also have a strong feeling that you are Mexican. As I said could have been a draw or yes a win for JMM BUT he gave away a reason not too. Everyone knows that one punch can change everything and he might have had the fight but he gave away that punch that changed everything. This is boxing and its either you win by KO and make it objective or subject the fight to subjective scoring by not doing so. JMM kept on saying fans booed when MP was declared the winner so he is the winner, its so stupid because I was there and Mexicans occupied 70% of the stadium. I understand about JMM wanting to make money out MP's popularity because he is not but be professional in doing so.   


    I knew that I was right about you being one of Manny's countrymen.  If I'm Mexican then I am the whitest Mexican that you have ever seen in your life.

    No, one punch doesn't change everything unless it is a KO.  Fights are scored on a round by round basis according to the 10-9 must system not on who was knocked down.  JMM doesn't want to just make money, I'm sure he like many other thinks that he won the second fight so of course he wants to fight Manny again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    I also have a strong feeling that you are Mexican. As I said could have been a draw or yes a win for JMM BUT he gave away a reason not too. Everyone knows that one punch can change everything and he might have had the fight but he gave away that punch that changed everything. This is boxing and its either you win by KO and make it objective or subject the fight to subjective scoring by not doing so. JMM kept on saying fans booed when MP was declared the winner so he is the winner, its so stupid because I was there and Mexicans occupied 70% of the stadium. I understand about JMM wanting to make money out MP's popularity because he is not but be professional in doing so.   


    I knew that I was right about you being one of Manny's countrymen.  If I'm Mexican then I am the whitest Mexican that you have ever seen in your life.

    No, one punch doesn't change everything unless it is a KO.  Fights are scored on a round by round basis according to the 10-9 must system not on who was knocked down.  JMM doesn't want to just make money, I'm sure he like many other thinks that he won the second fight so of course he wants to fight Manny again.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2008 - 9:11 PM ET #7

    Alright then you must have lost a big bet then but its really not about country against country because I am a boxing fan as a whole, its just so happen that I follow a more current news from MP's camp rather than others. I know about the scoring and the punches come on but I hope that you also know how in this subjective sport, punches like that can easily turn a 10-9 round into a 10-8.
     
    SIDE DISCUSSION:
     
    If Manny has one fight left after Oscar, who do you think he should fight?
    a.) oscar
    b.) floyd out of retirement
    c.) jmm
    This is like 50% because he just joined a political party in the Philippines and has been talking about one last fight after Oscar to run for Congress which is very much possible since 1. he has done this and lost 2. has the money 1 dollar is 47 pesos wow think about all his earnings.  
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    Alright then you must have lost a big bet then but its really not about country against country because I am a boxing fan as a whole, its just so happen that I follow a more current news from MP's camp rather than others. I know about the scoring and the punches come on but I hope that you also know how in this subjective sport, punches like that can easily turn a 10-9 round into a 10-8.
     
    SIDE DISCUSSION:
     
    If Manny has one fight left after Oscar, who do you think he should fight?
    a.) oscar
    b.) floyd out of retirement
    c.) jmm
    This is like 50% because he just joined a political party in the Philippines and has been talking about one last fight after Oscar to run for Congress which is very much possible since 1. he has done this and lost 2. has the money 1 dollar is 47 pesos wow think about all his earnings.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    Alright then you must have lost a big bet then but its really not about country against country because I am a boxing fan as a whole, its just so happen that I follow a more current news from MP's camp rather than others. I know about the scoring and the punches come on but I hope that you also know how in this subjective sport, punches like that can easily turn a 10-9 round into a 10-8.
     
    SIDE DISCUSSION:
     
    If Manny has one fight left after Oscar, who do you think he should fight?
    a.) oscar
    b.) floyd out of retirement
    c.) jmm
    This is like 50% because he just joined a political party in the Philippines and has been talking about one last fight after Oscar to run for Congress which is very much possible since 1. he has done this and lost 2. has the money 1 dollar is 47 pesos wow think about all his earnings.  


    Did I lose a bet on Marquez?  Yes.  I've watched the fight twice since and scored it for Marquez each time.  Do you think that all of those respected boxing journalists who I listed above that scored the fight for Marquez have bets on him?  I don't understand what you are saying about punches turning it into a 10-8, the 3rd round where Marquez went down was a 10-8 round; all three judges scored it that way as did I, but a 10-8 round doesn't automatically win a fight.

    Didn't Manny already lose one election?  He won't fight Oscar again, Floyd will massacre him, and I think he will fight JMM but it won't be his last fight.  I would be very surprised if he only has one more fight after Oscar in December; Bob Arum will keep milking Manny in order to fatten both of their pockets.

    In closing, like I said earlier the reason JMM is calling him out again is simple, he like many others thinks that he beat him last time out.  Why not make a lot of money to fight a guy who many think you beat?  He'd be crazy not to call him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    Alright then you must have lost a big bet then but its really not about country against country because I am a boxing fan as a whole, its just so happen that I follow a more current news from MP's camp rather than others. I know about the scoring and the punches come on but I hope that you also know how in this subjective sport, punches like that can easily turn a 10-9 round into a 10-8.
     
    SIDE DISCUSSION:
     
    If Manny has one fight left after Oscar, who do you think he should fight?
    a.) oscar
    b.) floyd out of retirement
    c.) jmm
    This is like 50% because he just joined a political party in the Philippines and has been talking about one last fight after Oscar to run for Congress which is very much possible since 1. he has done this and lost 2. has the money 1 dollar is 47 pesos wow think about all his earnings.  


    Did I lose a bet on Marquez?  Yes.  I've watched the fight twice since and scored it for Marquez each time.  Do you think that all of those respected boxing journalists who I listed above that scored the fight for Marquez have bets on him?  I don't understand what you are saying about punches turning it into a 10-8, the 3rd round where Marquez went down was a 10-8 round; all three judges scored it that way as did I, but a 10-8 round doesn't automatically win a fight.

    Didn't Manny already lose one election?  He won't fight Oscar again, Floyd will massacre him, and I think he will fight JMM but it won't be his last fight.  I would be very surprised if he only has one more fight after Oscar in December; Bob Arum will keep milking Manny in order to fatten both of their pockets.

    In closing, like I said earlier the reason JMM is calling him out again is simple, he like many others thinks that he beat him last time out.  Why not make a lot of money to fight a guy who many think you beat?  He'd be crazy not to call him out.
     
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    "but its really not about country against country because I am a boxing fan as a whole, its just so happen that I follow a more current news from MP's camp rather than others"

    Actually it is when it comes to you and your fellow countrymen talking about Manny.  It's like you see everything through Manny goggles that have the No Fear logo blocking your view of reality. If he lost every round of a fight there would still be uproars from Mannyiacs saying that he actually won.  I have a feeling that if Manny-Klitschko was made Manny fans would give him an excellent shot of tiring Klitschko out.
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    "but its really not about country against country because I am a boxing fan as a whole, its just so happen that I follow a more current news from MP's camp rather than others"

    Actually it is when it comes to you and your fellow countrymen talking about Manny.  It's like you see everything through Manny goggles that have the No Fear logo blocking your view of reality. If he lost every round of a fight there would still be uproars from Mannyiacs saying that he actually won.  I have a feeling that if Manny-Klitschko was made Manny fans would give him an excellent shot of tiring Klitschko out.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    This sore loser mexican should just back off. This guy is no way near professional when up until now he still denies losing to Manny Pacquiao. He is like a child who cant just accept defeat. Come on during the first fight I dont care if you got back for the draw, the fact that you fell three times in the first round should let you know that you already lost the fight. Remember one judge ADMITTING he got the score wrong and should have given Manny 10-6 on the first round which should have given him the fight? Have you heard about Manny complaining about it or protesting? NO because he is way more a professional than you. You also just got lucky the three knockdown rule was removed for your fight if not then you would not have proven to your promoter you are still bankable. In the second fight, you may have gotten the draw again but your are just so stupid to be knocked down again by a single punch!!!! and then you demand to be the winner when you just gave the judges a reason to break the draw...????
     
    Anyway, Marquez also keeps on saying that Manny is afraid of him. I just want to remind this insane boxer that you have not won against Manny Pacquiao and he has proven that he can knock you down three times in 1 round for a total for four times in the two fights. So by saying this you are just proving yourself to be uneducated who does not only know how to be professional and accept defeat. I also want to say that Manny is fighting a future hall of famer right now in Oscar and that this decision of his would hopefully shut your mouth into saying that he is afraid of fighting whoever, especially your stupid self.
     
    MARQUEZ stop whinning and just do your job just accept the fact that MANNY is too much and too high to reach for you.
     
     
     
     

     

    This is the dumb post of the day. 

     

     

     

    The 2nd fight was a 1 point match either way.  JMM lost and you can't say he was robbed, but certainly many people felt he won.  Especially himself.  And he has every right to chase down some $$$ and some redemption.

     

    I'm still pissed JMM hasn't fought a gorilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    This sore loser mexican should just back off. This guy is no way near professional when up until now he still denies losing to Manny Pacquiao. He is like a child who cant just accept defeat. Come on during the first fight I dont care if you got back for the draw, the fact that you fell three times in the first round should let you know that you already lost the fight. Remember one judge ADMITTING he got the score wrong and should have given Manny 10-6 on the first round which should have given him the fight? Have you heard about Manny complaining about it or protesting? NO because he is way more a professional than you. You also just got lucky the three knockdown rule was removed for your fight if not then you would not have proven to your promoter you are still bankable. In the second fight, you may have gotten the draw again but your are just so stupid to be knocked down again by a single punch!!!! and then you demand to be the winner when you just gave the judges a reason to break the draw...????
     
    Anyway, Marquez also keeps on saying that Manny is afraid of him. I just want to remind this insane boxer that you have not won against Manny Pacquiao and he has proven that he can knock you down three times in 1 round for a total for four times in the two fights. So by saying this you are just proving yourself to be uneducated who does not only know how to be professional and accept defeat. I also want to say that Manny is fighting a future hall of famer right now in Oscar and that this decision of his would hopefully shut your mouth into saying that he is afraid of fighting whoever, especially your stupid self.
     
    MARQUEZ stop whinning and just do your job just accept the fact that MANNY is too much and too high to reach for you.
     
     
     
     

     

    This is the dumb post of the day. 

     

     

     

    The 2nd fight was a 1 point match either way.  JMM lost and you can't say he was robbed, but certainly many people felt he won.  Especially himself.  And he has every right to chase down some $$$ and some redemption.

     

    I'm still pissed JMM hasn't fought a gorilla.

     
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    Fullbrights:
     
    Yes Manny already lost an election and he will run again which I dont think is the right thing to do but he will given he is friends with the current administration. His popularity will get used in every way possible by the government. With this he already indirectly said that after the Oscar fight he may retire after one more.
     
    As you said judges score fights differently depending on how you look at a round, I was just saying power punches like the ones that floored JMM was ONE OF THE KEYS why judges overturned their supposed to be JMM win or draw decision. Again, scoring is subjective and with power punches like that one may be led to believe that MP is winning and actually is dominant in a round thus leading the judge to score 10-8 rather 10-9. This is in any round in general and not only with the round we were talkng about.
     
    Nice to single out Filipinos being supportive of Manny. At least when we guys lose we dont cry and whine. Filipinos are always in the losing side of a fix from the judges especially in Boxing. One example is the Olympics.  This is one venue where this is true which even your American broadcasters would agree. I dont think you would believe that the Philippines only had ONE representative in boxing this year. This is like saying only one swimmer in the U.S has qualified. Fix against Filipino fighters starts during the qualifiers up until the Olympics our only Boxer got screwed by the judges still. BUT WE DID NOT WHINE AND COMPLAIN AND REMAINED PROFESSIONAL ABOUT IT and this is my main point here, CALL OUT MANNY BUT STOP WHINING.
     
    P.S dont talk about the Manny goggles when you Americans have your American goggle in general thinking that you are better than everyone in anything. Just one example: Your whining about the loss to 14 year old chinese kids in gymnastics.
     
    Sorry got defensive quite a bit.
      
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    Fullbrights:
     
    Yes Manny already lost an election and he will run again which I dont think is the right thing to do but he will given he is friends with the current administration. His popularity will get used in every way possible by the government. With this he already indirectly said that after the Oscar fight he may retire after one more.
     
    As you said judges score fights differently depending on how you look at a round, I was just saying power punches like the ones that floored JMM was ONE OF THE KEYS why judges overturned their supposed to be JMM win or draw decision. Again, scoring is subjective and with power punches like that one may be led to believe that MP is winning and actually is dominant in a round thus leading the judge to score 10-8 rather 10-9. This is in any round in general and not only with the round we were talkng about.
     
    Nice to single out Filipinos being supportive of Manny. At least when we guys lose we dont cry and whine. Filipinos are always in the losing side of a fix from the judges especially in Boxing. One example is the Olympics.  This is one venue where this is true which even your American broadcasters would agree. I dont think you would believe that the Philippines only had ONE representative in boxing this year. This is like saying only one swimmer in the U.S has qualified. Fix against Filipino fighters starts during the qualifiers up until the Olympics our only Boxer got screwed by the judges still. BUT WE DID NOT WHINE AND COMPLAIN AND REMAINED PROFESSIONAL ABOUT IT and this is my main point here, CALL OUT MANNY BUT STOP WHINING.
     
    P.S dont talk about the Manny goggles when you Americans have your American goggle in general thinking that you are better than everyone in anything. Just one example: Your whining about the loss to 14 year old chinese kids in gymnastics.
     
    Sorry got defensive quite a bit.
      
     
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    CAPMASTER 2000:
     
    REPLYING TO A DUMB POST IS DUMBER AND IF YOU ARE SMART THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT.
     
    Anyway in response to your other comment:
     
    Yes its not as if he was robbed but I am just pissed that he is acting like he was.
     
    Maybe I mean there is 30% chance but if MP gets it done this December then he may be the gorilla JMM is waiting for.
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    CAPMASTER 2000:
     
    REPLYING TO A DUMB POST IS DUMBER AND IF YOU ARE SMART THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT.
     
    Anyway in response to your other comment:
     
    Yes its not as if he was robbed but I am just pissed that he is acting like he was.
     
    Maybe I mean there is 30% chance but if MP gets it done this December then he may be the gorilla JMM is waiting for.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2008 - 4:22 AM ET #13

    Why is MP figthing DLH, if it is not for money??? For money.
     
    Now i understand why MP is taken 20 instead of the 40 million he asked for figthing DLH. What a professional !!!!!
     
    Even MP was surprised with the desition on the 2nd figth.
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    Why is MP figthing DLH, if it is not for money??? For money.
     
    Now i understand why MP is taken 20 instead of the 40 million he asked for figthing DLH. What a professional !!!!!
     
    Even MP was surprised with the desition on the 2nd figth.
     
     
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    De la Hoya wanted 70 - 30 in shares and MP declined come on if you are being ripped of and asked more than what you think you deserve, it is not being unprofessional... De la Hoya wanted the fight as he said he wanted to avenge MORALES BARRERA AND MARQUEZ but who do you think is more professional? the little kid accepting a fight from the bigger kid or the bigger kid who challenged the little one in the first place?
     
     
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    De la Hoya wanted 70 - 30 in shares and MP declined come on if you are being ripped of and asked more than what you think you deserve, it is not being unprofessional... De la Hoya wanted the fight as he said he wanted to avenge MORALES BARRERA AND MARQUEZ but who do you think is more professional? the little kid accepting a fight from the bigger kid or the bigger kid who challenged the little one in the first place?
     
     
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