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    Major Props to Floyd..Mayweather v Mosley is on..

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    Mack05
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2010 - 5:47 PM ET #1

    I have been the guys biggest critic. I have made my negative feelings on the guy quite often on this site..I was firmly in Pacman's side but with Floyd taking this fight I have changed my mind. I believe Mosley is a tougher fight for Floyd.

    Looks 99% that now Mosley v Mayweather is on. This is a massive fight in its own right. Yes Mosley is 38/39 but Floyd is 33. This is a really tough fight for Floyd. He is in against a bigger man, a man that can nearly match his speed.

    https://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22660&more=1 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    I have been the guys biggest critic. I have made my negative feelings on the guy quite often on this site..I was firmly in Pacman's side but with Floyd taking this fight I have changed my mind. I believe Mosley is a tougher fight for Floyd.

    Looks 99% that now Mosley v Mayweather is on. This is a massive fight in its own right. Yes Mosley is 38/39 but Floyd is 33. This is a really tough fight for Floyd. He is in against a bigger man, a man that can nearly match his speed.

    https://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22660&more=1 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2010 - 6:24 PM ET #2

    Fight Fans win on this one. 

    Floyd stole all the thunder from Pac-man, and not only does it set a new standard as Mosley will do Olympic Style testing.

    So if Floyd does beat Mosley, now Pac-man can no longer use the blood test as an excuse. 

    Pac-man will be forced to fight Mosley (who he has ducked) or Floyd.. or face retirement. 

    When you reach  P4P "The Best" you cannot fight anything less than a Mega-Fight.

    It will be interesting to see who they put on the under card of Mosley/Mayweather.

    Tons of boxing ahead of us so get your capping gear on Mack!

                                                       
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    Fight Fans win on this one. 

    Floyd stole all the thunder from Pac-man, and not only does it set a new standard as Mosley will do Olympic Style testing.

    So if Floyd does beat Mosley, now Pac-man can no longer use the blood test as an excuse. 

    Pac-man will be forced to fight Mosley (who he has ducked) or Floyd.. or face retirement. 

    When you reach  P4P "The Best" you cannot fight anything less than a Mega-Fight.

    It will be interesting to see who they put on the under card of Mosley/Mayweather.

    Tons of boxing ahead of us so get your capping gear on Mack!

                                                       
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2010 - 11:10 PM ET #3

    Hate to be a wet blanket here, but this fight is not official yet.  Should be, will probably be, but isn't yet.  All the talking about it being done is coming from Mayweather and Ellerbe.  I hope it happens, and I think it will, but I'm also a bit wary.   

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    Hate to be a wet blanket here, but this fight is not official yet.  Should be, will probably be, but isn't yet.  All the talking about it being done is coming from Mayweather and Ellerbe.  I hope it happens, and I think it will, but I'm also a bit wary.   

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 5:17 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Hate to be a wet blanket here, but this fight is not official yet.  Should be, will probably be, but isn't yet.  All the talking about it being done is coming from Mayweather and Ellerbe.  I hope it happens, and I think it will, but I'm also a bit wary.   




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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Hate to be a wet blanket here, but this fight is not official yet.  Should be, will probably be, but isn't yet.  All the talking about it being done is coming from Mayweather and Ellerbe.  I hope it happens, and I think it will, but I'm also a bit wary.   




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Fight Fans win on this one. 

    Floyd stole all the thunder from Pac-man, and not only does it set a new standard as Mosley will do Olympic Style testing.

    So if Floyd does beat Mosley, now Pac-man can no longer use the blood test as an excuse. 

    Pac-man will be forced to fight Mosley (who he has ducked) or Floyd.. or face retirement. 

    When you reach  P4P "The Best" you cannot fight anything less than a Mega-Fight.

    It will be interesting to see who they put on the under card of Mosley/Mayweather.

    Tons of boxing ahead of us so get your capping gear on Mack!

                                                       


    not true.  floyd box-weather has been called P4P best for at least 3 yrs leading into this last yr when manny pac took over but other than a washed-up DLH, who has box-weather fought that you consider a megafight?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Fight Fans win on this one. 

    Floyd stole all the thunder from Pac-man, and not only does it set a new standard as Mosley will do Olympic Style testing.

    So if Floyd does beat Mosley, now Pac-man can no longer use the blood test as an excuse. 

    Pac-man will be forced to fight Mosley (who he has ducked) or Floyd.. or face retirement. 

    When you reach  P4P "The Best" you cannot fight anything less than a Mega-Fight.

    It will be interesting to see who they put on the under card of Mosley/Mayweather.

    Tons of boxing ahead of us so get your capping gear on Mack!

                                                       


    not true.  floyd box-weather has been called P4P best for at least 3 yrs leading into this last yr when manny pac took over but other than a washed-up DLH, who has box-weather fought that you consider a megafight?


     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 6:14 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    not true.  floyd box-weather has been called P4P best for at least 3 yrs leading into this last yr when manny pac took over but other than a washed-up DLH, who has box-weather fought that you consider a megafight?


    Well, megafight is not a good term.  Lewis/Tyson was a megafight, but everyone knew it was a mismatch.  And you can give Floyd a hard time for his welterweight resume (it really is weak), but when he was a lightweight/jr lightweight, you can't really complain.  Sure, he never fought Mosley, but he fought Corrales when he was an undefeated champion and a terrifying KO artist.  Castillo gave him his toughest fight, and because of the criticism from some, he came right back and beat him again just to prove a point.  These were P4P guys. 

     

    I am now done talking about Floyd.  The haters/fans on each side are too irrational.  Same goes for Pacquiao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    not true.  floyd box-weather has been called P4P best for at least 3 yrs leading into this last yr when manny pac took over but other than a washed-up DLH, who has box-weather fought that you consider a megafight?


    Well, megafight is not a good term.  Lewis/Tyson was a megafight, but everyone knew it was a mismatch.  And you can give Floyd a hard time for his welterweight resume (it really is weak), but when he was a lightweight/jr lightweight, you can't really complain.  Sure, he never fought Mosley, but he fought Corrales when he was an undefeated champion and a terrifying KO artist.  Castillo gave him his toughest fight, and because of the criticism from some, he came right back and beat him again just to prove a point.  These were P4P guys. 

     

    I am now done talking about Floyd.  The haters/fans on each side are too irrational.  Same goes for Pacquiao.

     
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    And I hate to get into a discussion about semantics, but I will for a moment.  To me, a megafight is a fight with huge appeal/earning capabilities.  Floyd has been in plenty of those.  Hatton, DLH, JMM were all megafights, just because of the huge PPV numbers and mass appeal.  It has much less to do with the actual competitive balance of a fight.  That is just my opinion though.  I just wanted to explain my thought process.
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    And I hate to get into a discussion about semantics, but I will for a moment.  To me, a megafight is a fight with huge appeal/earning capabilities.  Floyd has been in plenty of those.  Hatton, DLH, JMM were all megafights, just because of the huge PPV numbers and mass appeal.  It has much less to do with the actual competitive balance of a fight.  That is just my opinion though.  I just wanted to explain my thought process.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 11:28 PM ET #8

    Looking forward to this one!
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    Looking forward to this one!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 6:03 AM ET #9

    From Dan Rafael's blog yesterday:

     

    Mosley has already signed his contract, and Schaefer is awaiting a signature from Mayweather, who has agreed to terms.

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    From Dan Rafael's blog yesterday:

     

    Mosley has already signed his contract, and Schaefer is awaiting a signature from Mayweather, who has agreed to terms.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 10:11 AM ET #10

    In all honesty, I don't see this being a tough fight for Floyd at all (at least not as tough as everyone assumes it will be). I've said in someone elses thread that I think "Money May" welcomes this challenge, because it's perceived to be just that, a "challenge". But in reality, Floyd has a great chance at looking dominant here. Floyd is not Antonio Margarito, and so many people are putting too much stock into that performance. SSM has proven to be inconsistent from fight to fight especially as he's aged. And this is a totally different dynamic. Last time Shane was in the ring vs. a guy that didn't want to fight but instead relied on an impervious defense, he looked terrible (twice). Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing PBF to a much bigger Winky Wright, however, they are both extremely defensive minded and these are the types of fighters that can make an old guy on his way out look really bad. Let's face it, despite Floyd taking this fight and diminishing his somewhat "cowardish" reputation, he's still not going to stand in the middle of the ring and let his hands go. Mayweather by an extremely unanimous decision is my call 

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    In all honesty, I don't see this being a tough fight for Floyd at all (at least not as tough as everyone assumes it will be). I've said in someone elses thread that I think "Money May" welcomes this challenge, because it's perceived to be just that, a "challenge". But in reality, Floyd has a great chance at looking dominant here. Floyd is not Antonio Margarito, and so many people are putting too much stock into that performance. SSM has proven to be inconsistent from fight to fight especially as he's aged. And this is a totally different dynamic. Last time Shane was in the ring vs. a guy that didn't want to fight but instead relied on an impervious defense, he looked terrible (twice). Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing PBF to a much bigger Winky Wright, however, they are both extremely defensive minded and these are the types of fighters that can make an old guy on his way out look really bad. Let's face it, despite Floyd taking this fight and diminishing his somewhat "cowardish" reputation, he's still not going to stand in the middle of the ring and let his hands go. Mayweather by an extremely unanimous decision is my call 

     
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    Dan Rafael just posted a blog about this fight.  Oh boy......

    Burstein also added that he had been assured by Leonard Ellerbe, one of Mayweather's advisers, that there were no problems on their side.

    "I confirmed with Leonard that there are no issues," Burstein said.

    Ellerbe's quote to me for the story I wrote Friday was, "All of the deal points have been agreed to. We still have to put pen to paper, but everything is agreed to."

    Yet five days later, Schaefer still does not have a signed agreement from Mayweather. He was clearly at wit's end when he called me about it Tuesday morning.

    "He still hasn't signed. I am so frustrated," Schaefer said. "I wanted both guys to go down to the Super Bowl in Miami to do some promotional stuff. I don't know what Floyd is waiting for. I have no clue. I have a signed contract from Shane on my desk. I have nothing from Floyd."

    Schaefer said he is in constant touch with Ellerbe and Al Haymon, Mayweather's other adviser, and when he asks them where the paperwork is, the response is always the same: "Every day, it's the next day. They say, 'Don't worry, it's going to come.' Well, where is it? I'm waiting for the signature before we can move on."

    Burstein said he and Mosley were also quite aggravated by the delay.

    "I am outraged," Burstein said when I reached him Tuesday afternoon. "I have a client who acts in a professional manner. He allows me to negotiate a deal for him in constant consultation with him. When it all gets put on paper, we go over it and, as promised, he signs if it's OK. That's what happened on Friday. It was signed with the assurance from Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe that everything was agreed to and there was no problem."

    So what does Burstein believe is the issue?

    "It's either one of two things that has happened," he said. "Either he's rethought the wisdom of risking his undefeated record against Shane or he chooses to act like a 7-year-old. Hopefully, it's the latter and he will mature very quickly. But either of these possibilities is completely unacceptable to us. He's going to end up in a fight with Mosley. The only question is whether it will be in the ring or in court."

    Now, May 1 is still a ways off, but for a megafight the magnitude of Mosley-Mayweather, kicking it off with promotional appearances at the Super Bowl is significant. When Mayweather and Oscar De La Hoya met in May 2007, their media rounds at the Super Bowl generated enormous interest in the fight, which went on to set the all-time pay-per-view record.

    Schaefer wants to follow the same blueprint. He said Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr., who will meet April 3 in a pay-per-view rematch that Golden Boy is co-promoting, will be in Miami to help drum up interest in their fight, so he can't understand why Mayweather is MIA.

    So I asked Schaefer if he was concerned that the Mosley-Mayweather fight might be in trouble?

    His answer was simply, "Yes."

    I asked him if he would elaborate.

    "At this point, I don't know," he said. "We want to do some big PR, so this is frustrating. I read Leonard's quotes that it was agreed to and that it was just a matter of time to get it signed, but if it's all done, why isn't it signed?"

    Schaefer has been down this road with Mayweather before, perhaps one of the reasons for his concern. He negotiated a fall 2008 rematch between Mayweather and De La Hoya, which also had been agreed to and was on the verge of being announced. However, Mayweather never signed the paperwork and instead announced his retirement, which lasted 18 months.

    "I am not having flashbacks to anything, but [the Mosley fight] is still not signed," Schaefer said. "I don't know what it means. Obviously, we can't move forward with the promotion, including some important activities that were planned for this coming weekend, unless we have a signed deal."

    Before negotiating with Mosley, Mayweather was close to a deal to face Manny Pacquiao on March 13 in what would have been, by far, the sport's biggest fight. But that fight fell apart shortly before what was supposed to have been a kickoff news conference in early January. The reason was because the fighters couldn't reach a compromise on drug-testing protocol. Mayweather insisted on testing that went far beyond the rules of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. While Pacquiao accepted some additional testing, he refused random blood testing.

    Both fighters moved on. Pacquiao quickly made a deal to defend his welterweight belt against Joshua Clottey on March 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

    Mayweather and Mosley began their talks after Mosley's Jan. 30 unification fight with Andre Berto was canceled.

    So while Pacquiao wrapped up his deal with Clottey in about two seconds and Mosley signed on the dotted line in pretty short order, we all continue to wait for Mayweather's John Hancock yet again, including Schaefer.

    "I always tell you, a signed deal is a done deal," Schaefer said. "It will only be done when Floyd signs, and that hasn't happened yet. I don't know of any deal terms that are not agreed to. I don't understand it."

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    Dan Rafael just posted a blog about this fight.  Oh boy......

    Burstein also added that he had been assured by Leonard Ellerbe, one of Mayweather's advisers, that there were no problems on their side.

    "I confirmed with Leonard that there are no issues," Burstein said.

    Ellerbe's quote to me for the story I wrote Friday was, "All of the deal points have been agreed to. We still have to put pen to paper, but everything is agreed to."

    Yet five days later, Schaefer still does not have a signed agreement from Mayweather. He was clearly at wit's end when he called me about it Tuesday morning.

    "He still hasn't signed. I am so frustrated," Schaefer said. "I wanted both guys to go down to the Super Bowl in Miami to do some promotional stuff. I don't know what Floyd is waiting for. I have no clue. I have a signed contract from Shane on my desk. I have nothing from Floyd."

    Schaefer said he is in constant touch with Ellerbe and Al Haymon, Mayweather's other adviser, and when he asks them where the paperwork is, the response is always the same: "Every day, it's the next day. They say, 'Don't worry, it's going to come.' Well, where is it? I'm waiting for the signature before we can move on."

    Burstein said he and Mosley were also quite aggravated by the delay.

    "I am outraged," Burstein said when I reached him Tuesday afternoon. "I have a client who acts in a professional manner. He allows me to negotiate a deal for him in constant consultation with him. When it all gets put on paper, we go over it and, as promised, he signs if it's OK. That's what happened on Friday. It was signed with the assurance from Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe that everything was agreed to and there was no problem."

    So what does Burstein believe is the issue?

    "It's either one of two things that has happened," he said. "Either he's rethought the wisdom of risking his undefeated record against Shane or he chooses to act like a 7-year-old. Hopefully, it's the latter and he will mature very quickly. But either of these possibilities is completely unacceptable to us. He's going to end up in a fight with Mosley. The only question is whether it will be in the ring or in court."

    Now, May 1 is still a ways off, but for a megafight the magnitude of Mosley-Mayweather, kicking it off with promotional appearances at the Super Bowl is significant. When Mayweather and Oscar De La Hoya met in May 2007, their media rounds at the Super Bowl generated enormous interest in the fight, which went on to set the all-time pay-per-view record.

    Schaefer wants to follow the same blueprint. He said Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr., who will meet April 3 in a pay-per-view rematch that Golden Boy is co-promoting, will be in Miami to help drum up interest in their fight, so he can't understand why Mayweather is MIA.

    So I asked Schaefer if he was concerned that the Mosley-Mayweather fight might be in trouble?

    His answer was simply, "Yes."

    I asked him if he would elaborate.

    "At this point, I don't know," he said. "We want to do some big PR, so this is frustrating. I read Leonard's quotes that it was agreed to and that it was just a matter of time to get it signed, but if it's all done, why isn't it signed?"

    Schaefer has been down this road with Mayweather before, perhaps one of the reasons for his concern. He negotiated a fall 2008 rematch between Mayweather and De La Hoya, which also had been agreed to and was on the verge of being announced. However, Mayweather never signed the paperwork and instead announced his retirement, which lasted 18 months.

    "I am not having flashbacks to anything, but [the Mosley fight] is still not signed," Schaefer said. "I don't know what it means. Obviously, we can't move forward with the promotion, including some important activities that were planned for this coming weekend, unless we have a signed deal."

    Before negotiating with Mosley, Mayweather was close to a deal to face Manny Pacquiao on March 13 in what would have been, by far, the sport's biggest fight. But that fight fell apart shortly before what was supposed to have been a kickoff news conference in early January. The reason was because the fighters couldn't reach a compromise on drug-testing protocol. Mayweather insisted on testing that went far beyond the rules of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. While Pacquiao accepted some additional testing, he refused random blood testing.

    Both fighters moved on. Pacquiao quickly made a deal to defend his welterweight belt against Joshua Clottey on March 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

    Mayweather and Mosley began their talks after Mosley's Jan. 30 unification fight with Andre Berto was canceled.

    So while Pacquiao wrapped up his deal with Clottey in about two seconds and Mosley signed on the dotted line in pretty short order, we all continue to wait for Mayweather's John Hancock yet again, including Schaefer.

    "I always tell you, a signed deal is a done deal," Schaefer said. "It will only be done when Floyd signs, and that hasn't happened yet. I don't know of any deal terms that are not agreed to. I don't understand it."

     
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    Eh.  I screwed up that post.  I guess it was too long.  Here's the link:

     

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    Eh.  I screwed up that post.  I guess it was too long.  Here's the link:

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    not true.  floyd box-weather has been called P4P best for at least 3 yrs leading into this last yr when manny pac took over but other than a washed-up DLH, who has box-weather fought that you consider a megafight?



    You do realize you called Oscar washed up  (which he was) that takes away from Pac-man's "greatness". 

    Realize this Floyd is a SMALL guy, he fought Oscar at 154 to make that fight when Floyd is no more than a 140 fighter, look at all of his best fights.. 130 135 he only moved up because there was NO competition (and MUCH bigger paydays).

    Also realize Pacman was fighter of the year for fighting 2 guys who Floyd BEAT when they were MUCH better. 

    I believe it was better if I said anything less than Pac-man/Floyd wouldn't be a Mega fight by Pac-man's standards.

    Clottey is no CHUMP but if you look at who won the battle.. it was Floyd he is going to fight Mosley who many feel can match Floyd and is  the BIGGER GUY. 

    I've always said MOSLEY was better suited for the fight against Floyd than Pac-man is. 

    It's not KNOCKING Pac-man it's the style of Mosley that presents a challenge. Styles make fights.. and I believe Mosley is big enough and savvy enough to MAKE Floyd FIGHT.

    You're correct Floyd has been called p4p for a long time but under severe scrutiny  where as Pac has been labeled P4P but has filled the shoes with much less scrutiny because of the STYLE in which he fights.

    In the end we all win we see two fights, and see Pac-man and Floyd go at it in September barring they both win their matches.

    Danno made an excellent point about Mega-fight (The term I used) and he's right if you look at Pac-man and Clottey they will sell well for sure, but look at the odds on the fight.

    Now take Floyd/Mosley which will beat Pac-man/Clottey in PPV and is an even matchup.. this rarely happens! (Well at least not recently in boxing).

    So you know I'm not a FAN of either GUY, I love what Pac-man brings, I just lost respect for him for not taking the test.

    I love Pac-man's attitude and style and his aggressiveness.

    Floyd on the other hand, I love to see his craft it's 100 % the opposite and that's why it was such a big deal to so many people. Two opposite styles that have great appeal.

    So to sum it up, I LOST respect for BOTH fighters for NOT making this happen. I made posts on both sides some positive for pac-man and some positive for Floyd. 

    Not one person can say during and after the whole blood  test thing was going on that they didn't say "Screw BOTH of these Clowns" - I know I did!

                                                    

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    not true.  floyd box-weather has been called P4P best for at least 3 yrs leading into this last yr when manny pac took over but other than a washed-up DLH, who has box-weather fought that you consider a megafight?



    You do realize you called Oscar washed up  (which he was) that takes away from Pac-man's "greatness". 

    Realize this Floyd is a SMALL guy, he fought Oscar at 154 to make that fight when Floyd is no more than a 140 fighter, look at all of his best fights.. 130 135 he only moved up because there was NO competition (and MUCH bigger paydays).

    Also realize Pacman was fighter of the year for fighting 2 guys who Floyd BEAT when they were MUCH better. 

    I believe it was better if I said anything less than Pac-man/Floyd wouldn't be a Mega fight by Pac-man's standards.

    Clottey is no CHUMP but if you look at who won the battle.. it was Floyd he is going to fight Mosley who many feel can match Floyd and is  the BIGGER GUY. 

    I've always said MOSLEY was better suited for the fight against Floyd than Pac-man is. 

    It's not KNOCKING Pac-man it's the style of Mosley that presents a challenge. Styles make fights.. and I believe Mosley is big enough and savvy enough to MAKE Floyd FIGHT.

    You're correct Floyd has been called p4p for a long time but under severe scrutiny  where as Pac has been labeled P4P but has filled the shoes with much less scrutiny because of the STYLE in which he fights.

    In the end we all win we see two fights, and see Pac-man and Floyd go at it in September barring they both win their matches.

    Danno made an excellent point about Mega-fight (The term I used) and he's right if you look at Pac-man and Clottey they will sell well for sure, but look at the odds on the fight.

    Now take Floyd/Mosley which will beat Pac-man/Clottey in PPV and is an even matchup.. this rarely happens! (Well at least not recently in boxing).

    So you know I'm not a FAN of either GUY, I love what Pac-man brings, I just lost respect for him for not taking the test.

    I love Pac-man's attitude and style and his aggressiveness.

    Floyd on the other hand, I love to see his craft it's 100 % the opposite and that's why it was such a big deal to so many people. Two opposite styles that have great appeal.

    So to sum it up, I LOST respect for BOTH fighters for NOT making this happen. I made posts on both sides some positive for pac-man and some positive for Floyd. 

    Not one person can say during and after the whole blood  test thing was going on that they didn't say "Screw BOTH of these Clowns" - I know I did!

                                                    

     
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    Good find Danno, I know this fight will get signed.

    I don't see how appearing at the Super Bowl to promote a fight would be a good idea.

    First off you have Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones there, I mean who would want to "share" the lime light with them for a fight that we know will only go one way. 


    The fight shouldn't be allowed to happen, Roy is way past his time and is only making a fool of himself.

    Realize Floyd has a major ego unlike Mosley who is a pretty quiet guy most of the time. 

    I cannot see Floyd sharing the spotlight with Roy Jones... I understand what they want to promote but they need to realize Floyd's EGO is HUGE.

    Think about it when Floyd  is a "Prick" he sells more tickets, he cannot be an all action fighter so he plays the role of "Prick" so people hate him, it sells. :)

    I hope they sign soon, but DON'T appear at the super bowl with Roy Jones.. that will spoil everything.  


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    Good find Danno, I know this fight will get signed.

    I don't see how appearing at the Super Bowl to promote a fight would be a good idea.

    First off you have Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones there, I mean who would want to "share" the lime light with them for a fight that we know will only go one way. 


    The fight shouldn't be allowed to happen, Roy is way past his time and is only making a fool of himself.

    Realize Floyd has a major ego unlike Mosley who is a pretty quiet guy most of the time. 

    I cannot see Floyd sharing the spotlight with Roy Jones... I understand what they want to promote but they need to realize Floyd's EGO is HUGE.

    Think about it when Floyd  is a "Prick" he sells more tickets, he cannot be an all action fighter so he plays the role of "Prick" so people hate him, it sells. :)

    I hope they sign soon, but DON'T appear at the super bowl with Roy Jones.. that will spoil everything.  


     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 5:20 PM ET #15

    He signed.

     

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    He signed.

     

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    I agree with Pinnacles post and I simply cannot see SSM beating Floyd Mayweather, whose defensive array of skills should lead to a fairly convincing points win. But Rich is right, SSM is going to give Floyd trouble at times in this one. I have little doubt about that. This is an intruging matchup and for me a better fight then Pacman v Mayweather.

    People are in for a BIG shock if FMM/Pacman fight ever happens. Floyd far too canny for Manny and he wins that fight EASY! I mean EASY...SSM Mosley style wise is a far tougher matchup for Floyd. I expect Floyd to win and I respect him for giving us a fight the boxing purists just can't wait to see...

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    I agree with Pinnacles post and I simply cannot see SSM beating Floyd Mayweather, whose defensive array of skills should lead to a fairly convincing points win. But Rich is right, SSM is going to give Floyd trouble at times in this one. I have little doubt about that. This is an intruging matchup and for me a better fight then Pacman v Mayweather.

    People are in for a BIG shock if FMM/Pacman fight ever happens. Floyd far too canny for Manny and he wins that fight EASY! I mean EASY...SSM Mosley style wise is a far tougher matchup for Floyd. I expect Floyd to win and I respect him for giving us a fight the boxing purists just can't wait to see...

     
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    The 24/7 series here are going to be pure Gold!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    In all honesty, I don't see this being a tough fight for Floyd at all (at least not as tough as everyone assumes it will be). I've said in someone elses thread that I think "Money May" welcomes this challenge, because it's perceived to be just that, a "challenge". But in reality, Floyd has a great chance at looking dominant here. Floyd is not Antonio Margarito, and so many people are putting too much stock into that performance. SSM has proven to be inconsistent from fight to fight especially as he's aged. And this is a totally different dynamic. Last time Shane was in the ring vs. a guy that didn't want to fight but instead relied on an impervious defense, he looked terrible (twice). Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing PBF to a much bigger Winky Wright, however, they are both extremely defensive minded and these are the types of fighters that can make an old guy on his way out look really bad. Let's face it, despite Floyd taking this fight and diminishing his somewhat "cowardish" reputation, he's still not going to stand in the middle of the ring and let his hands go. Mayweather by an extremely unanimous decision is my call 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    In all honesty, I don't see this being a tough fight for Floyd at all (at least not as tough as everyone assumes it will be). I've said in someone elses thread that I think "Money May" welcomes this challenge, because it's perceived to be just that, a "challenge". But in reality, Floyd has a great chance at looking dominant here. Floyd is not Antonio Margarito, and so many people are putting too much stock into that performance. SSM has proven to be inconsistent from fight to fight especially as he's aged. And this is a totally different dynamic. Last time Shane was in the ring vs. a guy that didn't want to fight but instead relied on an impervious defense, he looked terrible (twice). Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing PBF to a much bigger Winky Wright, however, they are both extremely defensive minded and these are the types of fighters that can make an old guy on his way out look really bad. Let's face it, despite Floyd taking this fight and diminishing his somewhat "cowardish" reputation, he's still not going to stand in the middle of the ring and let his hands go. Mayweather by an extremely unanimous decision is my call 

     

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    hmmm I expect Floyd to win (fairlyisshhhh convincing), but an easy night at the office it won't be! Floyd is a completely different kind of defensive fighter then Winky. He is also alot smaller. I mean Winky has fought at 175!

    Nasim Richardson is a great trainer and he will come up with a gameplan that will give Floyd trouble. Floyd struggled at times with DeLaHoya's jab and workrate early in their fight. Mosley used his jab effectively against Margeritho (forgive my spelling). I expect him to have success early with the Jab, which is an underrated tool in Mosley's Arsenal.

    I am one of those that doesn't think Floyd is over rated. At his best. I think he is as good as ive seen since Hagler/Hearns/Leonard. As all great boxers do he will figure out Mosley around mid-way and probably win on points. But an easy lopsided decision I just can't see. Im thinking 7-5, 8-4 something inaround that.

    Boring fight, I don't think so. Mosley will be up for this and will bring out the best Floyd Mayweather. I for one can't wait

     

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    hmmm I expect Floyd to win (fairlyisshhhh convincing), but an easy night at the office it won't be! Floyd is a completely different kind of defensive fighter then Winky. He is also alot smaller. I mean Winky has fought at 175!

    Nasim Richardson is a great trainer and he will come up with a gameplan that will give Floyd trouble. Floyd struggled at times with DeLaHoya's jab and workrate early in their fight. Mosley used his jab effectively against Margeritho (forgive my spelling). I expect him to have success early with the Jab, which is an underrated tool in Mosley's Arsenal.

    I am one of those that doesn't think Floyd is over rated. At his best. I think he is as good as ive seen since Hagler/Hearns/Leonard. As all great boxers do he will figure out Mosley around mid-way and probably win on points. But an easy lopsided decision I just can't see. Im thinking 7-5, 8-4 something inaround that.

    Boring fight, I don't think so. Mosley will be up for this and will bring out the best Floyd Mayweather. I for one can't wait

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    hmmm I expect Floyd to win (fairlyisshhhh convincing), but an easy night at the office it won't be! Floyd is a completely different kind of defensive fighter then Winky. He is also alot smaller. I mean Winky has fought at 175!

    Nasim Richardson is a great trainer and he will come up with a gameplan that will give Floyd trouble. Floyd struggled at times with DeLaHoya's jab and workrate early in their fight. Mosley used his jab effectively against Margeritho (forgive my spelling). I expect him to have success early with the Jab, which is an underrated tool in Mosley's Arsenal.

    I am one of those that doesn't think Floyd is over rated. At his best. I think he is as good as ive seen since Hagler/Hearns/Leonard. As all great boxers do he will figure out Mosley around mid-way and probably win on points. But an easy lopsided decision I just can't see. Im thinking 7-5, 8-4 something inaround that.

    Boring fight, I don't think so. Mosley will be up for this and will bring out the best Floyd Mayweather. I for one can't wait

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    hmmm I expect Floyd to win (fairlyisshhhh convincing), but an easy night at the office it won't be! Floyd is a completely different kind of defensive fighter then Winky. He is also alot smaller. I mean Winky has fought at 175!

    Nasim Richardson is a great trainer and he will come up with a gameplan that will give Floyd trouble. Floyd struggled at times with DeLaHoya's jab and workrate early in their fight. Mosley used his jab effectively against Margeritho (forgive my spelling). I expect him to have success early with the Jab, which is an underrated tool in Mosley's Arsenal.

    I am one of those that doesn't think Floyd is over rated. At his best. I think he is as good as ive seen since Hagler/Hearns/Leonard. As all great boxers do he will figure out Mosley around mid-way and probably win on points. But an easy lopsided decision I just can't see. Im thinking 7-5, 8-4 something inaround that.

    Boring fight, I don't think so. Mosley will be up for this and will bring out the best Floyd Mayweather. I for one can't wait

     

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