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    James Toney +600 vs Lebedev

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    TheColorPurple
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 7:49 PM ET #1

    This is interesting.. Toney is in the best shape hes been in since he fought Holyfield.. Sure James should be the underdog but +600 is kinda a lot lol.. Make no mistake James definitely is the more skilled and experienced fighter, but will the massive weight loss and age hurt him? Lebedev isnt anything special, he has youth on his side and has a nice left hand and is a southpaw.. Im thinking he will get the decision from workrate and this fight being in Russia.. But you never know, Toney is REAAALLY motivated for this fight.. Lebedev is flat footed and slow, doesnt move his head.. Toney is a defensive wizard and good counter puncher, with the weight loss, Toney should be at his best. I never would have thought Toney would ever fight under 200lbs again.. Tarver beat Danny Green so who knows.. I put a couple Units on Toney for the good value..
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    This is interesting.. Toney is in the best shape hes been in since he fought Holyfield.. Sure James should be the underdog but +600 is kinda a lot lol.. Make no mistake James definitely is the more skilled and experienced fighter, but will the massive weight loss and age hurt him? Lebedev isnt anything special, he has youth on his side and has a nice left hand and is a southpaw.. Im thinking he will get the decision from workrate and this fight being in Russia.. But you never know, Toney is REAAALLY motivated for this fight.. Lebedev is flat footed and slow, doesnt move his head.. Toney is a defensive wizard and good counter puncher, with the weight loss, Toney should be at his best. I never would have thought Toney would ever fight under 200lbs again.. Tarver beat Danny Green so who knows.. I put a couple Units on Toney for the good value..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 8:26 PM ET #2

    maybe worth a nibble but toney is like 60 or something isnt he?
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    maybe worth a nibble but toney is like 60 or something isnt he?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 8:40 PM ET #3

    Lebedev is going to soundly outpoint Toney. Toney might have a few moments, but he simply isn't good enough or active enough to win this fight on the road. I'm predicting a very lackluster 117-111, 116-112 type of win for Lebedev. 

    I've played Lebedev via points at +131.
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    Lebedev is going to soundly outpoint Toney. Toney might have a few moments, but he simply isn't good enough or active enough to win this fight on the road. I'm predicting a very lackluster 117-111, 116-112 type of win for Lebedev. 

    I've played Lebedev via points at +131.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 10:43 PM ET #4

    I'm making a pretty big wager on James Toney. I think  Lebedev will play into Toney's strengths and get counter punched. It should be pretty close but the cleaner shots will go to Toney.

    Toney +whatever it is
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    I'm making a pretty big wager on James Toney. I think  Lebedev will play into Toney's strengths and get counter punched. It should be pretty close but the cleaner shots will go to Toney.

    Toney +whatever it is
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 11:29 PM ET #5

    james  is TOO SMART for this cat and will counter punch his way to a dec. win
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    james  is TOO SMART for this cat and will counter punch his way to a dec. win
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 12:49 AM ET #6

    the fact the line is so high bothers me......Toney in weigh in looked okay but slighly flabby

    https://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_id=1666&y=2011&m=11

    marco huck is a one dementional fighter he is just so big compared to lebedev that the judges sided with the overworker even though lebedev landed the better shots.....

    toney still is a slick dude but how is his conditioning really and his speed.....he weighed 237 versus randy coulture and still looked fat....I mean he could have easily cut 15 pounds in water and still only lost 23 pounds......i understand this is his last chance but stil...

    however id say there is nothing wrong betting to win a $1000 and im going too

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    the fact the line is so high bothers me......Toney in weigh in looked okay but slighly flabby

    https://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_id=1666&y=2011&m=11

    marco huck is a one dementional fighter he is just so big compared to lebedev that the judges sided with the overworker even though lebedev landed the better shots.....

    toney still is a slick dude but how is his conditioning really and his speed.....he weighed 237 versus randy coulture and still looked fat....I mean he could have easily cut 15 pounds in water and still only lost 23 pounds......i understand this is his last chance but stil...

    however id say there is nothing wrong betting to win a $1000 and im going too

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 12:50 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Lebedev is going to soundly outpoint Toney. Toney might have a few moments, but he simply isn't good enough or active enough to win this fight on the road. I'm predicting a very lackluster 117-111, 116-112 type of win for Lebedev. 

    I've played Lebedev via points at +131.

    only way lebedev wins and is the smartest safest play....dude has a iron chin and rolls way too many powerpunches off

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Lebedev is going to soundly outpoint Toney. Toney might have a few moments, but he simply isn't good enough or active enough to win this fight on the road. I'm predicting a very lackluster 117-111, 116-112 type of win for Lebedev. 

    I've played Lebedev via points at +131.

    only way lebedev wins and is the smartest safest play....dude has a iron chin and rolls way too many powerpunches off

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 5:21 AM ET #8

    I WANT to back Toney, but just can't pull the trigger.  He isn't getting KOed like Roid Jones did
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    I WANT to back Toney, but just can't pull the trigger.  He isn't getting KOed like Roid Jones did
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 10:45 AM ET #9

    Any live feeds?
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    Any live feeds?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 1:14 PM ET #10

    Toney doesn't look that good...hasn't won a round yet going into the 4th
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    Toney doesn't look that good...hasn't won a round yet going into the 4th
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 1:15 PM ET #11

    doesn't look good for us Toney backers.

    His legs are completely gone and he looks really bad.
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    doesn't look good for us Toney backers.

    His legs are completely gone and he looks really bad.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 1:24 PM ET #12

    https://p2p1c2.blogspot.com/
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 1:25 PM ET #13

    Toney hasn't won a round after 6
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    Toney hasn't won a round after 6
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2011 - 2:51 PM ET #14

    I got lucky my book did not have lines for this fight, was going to make a small play on toney.
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    I got lucky my book did not have lines for this fight, was going to make a small play on toney.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2011 - 1:10 AM ET #15

    great call Walk.  Just as you predicted
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    great call Walk.  Just as you predicted
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