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    Is Erislandy Lara worth a shot against Williams??

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    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2011 - 6:26 PM ET #1

    Guys,

    I am going to be honest here. I know NOTHING about Erislandy Lara, except that he is a Cuban former amateur World champion and fought a draw with Molina. Molina is one of those guys that it's hard to look against so that could be misleading.

    I am thinking Williams might never be the same after what happened against Martinez. I am just wondering if he has the hunger for boxing anymore. He has been around awhile and the guy hasn't really achieved much (in the way of winning big money fights). I just wonder is he vulnerable to a hungry young fighter with a great amateur pedigree. Now, I know trusting Cubans that go pro is not the smartest way to bet...But I am tempted to take the +250 on offer an a hungry undefeated fighter with a solid amateur pedigree..

    In the other fight I have to take Rios by KO. I can't see this being anything but a brawl.
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    Guys,

    I am going to be honest here. I know NOTHING about Erislandy Lara, except that he is a Cuban former amateur World champion and fought a draw with Molina. Molina is one of those guys that it's hard to look against so that could be misleading.

    I am thinking Williams might never be the same after what happened against Martinez. I am just wondering if he has the hunger for boxing anymore. He has been around awhile and the guy hasn't really achieved much (in the way of winning big money fights). I just wonder is he vulnerable to a hungry young fighter with a great amateur pedigree. Now, I know trusting Cubans that go pro is not the smartest way to bet...But I am tempted to take the +250 on offer an a hungry undefeated fighter with a solid amateur pedigree..

    In the other fight I have to take Rios by KO. I can't see this being anything but a brawl.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2011 - 7:47 PM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Guys,

    I am going to be honest here. I know NOTHING about Erislandy Lara, except that he is a Cuban former amateur World champion and fought a draw with Molina. Molina is one of those guys that it's hard to look against so that could be misleading.

    I am thinking Williams might never be the same after what happened against Martinez. I am just wondering if he has the hunger for boxing anymore. He has been around awhile and the guy hasn't really achieved much (in the way of winning big money fights). I just wonder is he vulnerable to a hungry young fighter with a great amateur pedigree. Now, I know trusting Cubans that go pro is not the smartest way to bet...But I am tempted to take the +250 on offer an a hungry undefeated fighter with a solid amateur pedigree..

    In the other fight I have to take Rios by KO. I can't see this being anything but a brawl.

    I'm wondering the same thing. Why would they throw Williams back in against an athletic, undefeated fighter with some pop? As much as I like Lara in this fight (bet him a little while ago) I like the under 11.5 or "fight won't go the distance" prop being offered at around +155 much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Guys,

    I am going to be honest here. I know NOTHING about Erislandy Lara, except that he is a Cuban former amateur World champion and fought a draw with Molina. Molina is one of those guys that it's hard to look against so that could be misleading.

    I am thinking Williams might never be the same after what happened against Martinez. I am just wondering if he has the hunger for boxing anymore. He has been around awhile and the guy hasn't really achieved much (in the way of winning big money fights). I just wonder is he vulnerable to a hungry young fighter with a great amateur pedigree. Now, I know trusting Cubans that go pro is not the smartest way to bet...But I am tempted to take the +250 on offer an a hungry undefeated fighter with a solid amateur pedigree..

    In the other fight I have to take Rios by KO. I can't see this being anything but a brawl.

    I'm wondering the same thing. Why would they throw Williams back in against an athletic, undefeated fighter with some pop? As much as I like Lara in this fight (bet him a little while ago) I like the under 11.5 or "fight won't go the distance" prop being offered at around +155 much more.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2011 - 8:42 PM ET #3

    I was asking about Lara's last [didn't see it] and the response was he got a gift and should have lost against Molina. Lara's plodding was noted. Decently credible sources.

    Curious to see how Williams comes back after that ko. 
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    I was asking about Lara's last [didn't see it] and the response was he got a gift and should have lost against Molina. Lara's plodding was noted. Decently credible sources.

    Curious to see how Williams comes back after that ko. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2011 - 12:10 AM ET #4

    I read that for Lara's last, he didn't train at all.  He never showed up at Ronnie Shields' gym, instead staying home in Florida and not doing anything.  Shields was in his corner for the fight, but didn't work with him at all leading up to the fight.

    Some good stuff here:

    https://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-lead/erislandy-lara-prepares 

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    I read that for Lara's last, he didn't train at all.  He never showed up at Ronnie Shields' gym, instead staying home in Florida and not doing anything.  Shields was in his corner for the fight, but didn't work with him at all leading up to the fight.

    Some good stuff here:

    https://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-lead/erislandy-lara-prepares 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2011 - 7:07 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    I'm wondering the same thing. Why would they throw Williams back in against an athletic, undefeated fighter with some pop? As much as I like Lara in this fight (bet him a little while ago) I like the under 11.5 or "fight won't go the distance" prop being offered at around +155 much more.


    I'll be on the under tonight.  And a side on Lara for kicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    I'm wondering the same thing. Why would they throw Williams back in against an athletic, undefeated fighter with some pop? As much as I like Lara in this fight (bet him a little while ago) I like the under 11.5 or "fight won't go the distance" prop being offered at around +155 much more.


    I'll be on the under tonight.  And a side on Lara for kicks.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2011 - 7:15 PM ET #6

    The Punisher gets back on track   
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    The Punisher gets back on track   
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2011 - 10:11 PM ET #7

    lara has no chance
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    lara has no chance
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2011 - 11:45 PM ET #8

    Lara is an pretty much an unknown to me. I just think Williams will outwork him but I know too little about Lara to doubt he can win a decision. Williams being KOd won't have a major effect on him as he is a realistic guy and hard worker. The main question mark is will the weakness in Williams defense has been exposed and maybe Martinez made the blueprint. Is Lara skilled enough to take advantage? I don't know. Sorry about late post as I just flew in. A fight I had no opinion on.
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    Lara is an pretty much an unknown to me. I just think Williams will outwork him but I know too little about Lara to doubt he can win a decision. Williams being KOd won't have a major effect on him as he is a realistic guy and hard worker. The main question mark is will the weakness in Williams defense has been exposed and maybe Martinez made the blueprint. Is Lara skilled enough to take advantage? I don't know. Sorry about late post as I just flew in. A fight I had no opinion on.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2011 - 11:58 PM ET #9

    Just turned on Williams and apparently Lara is winning in the 11th and it looks like the end for the Punisher!
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    Just turned on Williams and apparently Lara is winning in the 11th and it looks like the end for the Punisher!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 12:03 AM ET #10

    Lara must have watched Sergio tape and keeps the fight at medium range which Williams is exposed and can't connect. He needs in fighting or long range, otherwise he is open for shots at his opponents full extension range!
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    Lara must have watched Sergio tape and keeps the fight at medium range which Williams is exposed and can't connect. He needs in fighting or long range, otherwise he is open for shots at his opponents full extension range!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 12:09 AM ET #11

    That's the worst decision I've EVER, EVER seen. There have been many, but this was disgusting.  
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    That's the worst decision I've EVER, EVER seen. There have been many, but this was disgusting.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 12:09 AM ET #12

    wow lara got fucked hard
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    wow lara got fucked hard
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 12:18 AM ET #13

    Paul Williams is back!  Punisher!!!
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    Paul Williams is back!  Punisher!!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 1:01 AM ET #14

    I can't even make a good arguement on his part.

    I've seen worse decisions though. Lara was on his wheels in the last 2 rounds

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    I can't even make a good arguement on his part.

    I've seen worse decisions though. Lara was on his wheels in the last 2 rounds

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 1:01 AM ET #15

    War Paul!!
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    War Paul!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 2:46 AM ET #16

    I was going to bet Lara +280 but didnt want to root against Williams so I laid off...Glad I did

    That was disgraceful though
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    I was going to bet Lara +280 but didnt want to root against Williams so I laid off...Glad I did

    That was disgraceful though
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 3:14 AM ET #17

    That was one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. I knew something was up when the 1rst judge had it 114-114. I feel badly for those that had Lara.
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    That was one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. I knew something was up when the 1rst judge had it 114-114. I feel badly for those that had Lara.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2011 - 6:08 AM ET #18

    Damn it!God damn judges Still though got a run for a +280 dog.

    Still though Rios made sure I broke even for the night
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    Damn it!God damn judges Still though got a run for a +280 dog.

    Still though Rios made sure I broke even for the night
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