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    I was just waiting for the go ahead.......and it's in from --- Michael Katz

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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 12:29 AM ET #1

    Michael Katz is the greatest boxing writer/analyst there was or will be IMO.
     
      I've been reading his weekly columns for years in "Gaming Today".. (www.gamingtoday.com) and I can't recall in the last 5 years that he's ever been wrong about a fight....NEVER BEEN WRONG in his analysis
    of ANY fight major or minor in all the years that i've been reading his column. It's actually unbelieveable...........anyway Mr. Katz says:
     
     
     
                                                                           
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    "Mayweather easy" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    POUND THE GANGSTA!!!!
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    Michael Katz is the greatest boxing writer/analyst there was or will be IMO.
     
      I've been reading his weekly columns for years in "Gaming Today".. (www.gamingtoday.com) and I can't recall in the last 5 years that he's ever been wrong about a fight....NEVER BEEN WRONG in his analysis
    of ANY fight major or minor in all the years that i've been reading his column. It's actually unbelieveable...........anyway Mr. Katz says:
     
     
     
                                                                           
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    "Mayweather easy" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    POUND THE GANGSTA!!!!
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 2:07 AM ET #2

    Angelo Dundee, Hall of Fame trainer of 15 world champions: ``This is a great fight and we are so grateful because boxing needs that shot in the arm. Mayweather has never fought a guy as big and talented as De La Hoya. The good big man almost always beats the good little man. I see it going the distance and De La Hoya winning convincingly.''  Ever heard of this guy?
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    Angelo Dundee, Hall of Fame trainer of 15 world champions: ``This is a great fight and we are so grateful because boxing needs that shot in the arm. Mayweather has never fought a guy as big and talented as De La Hoya. The good big man almost always beats the good little man. I see it going the distance and De La Hoya winning convincingly.''  Ever heard of this guy?
     
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    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
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    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 10:21 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
     
    He picked Corrales against Clottey     No he didn't  he had Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez   No he didn't   he had Marquez
     
    I don't ever remember Katz being wrong in his analysis or fight prediction ....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
     
    He picked Corrales against Clottey     No he didn't  he had Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez   No he didn't   he had Marquez
     
    I don't ever remember Katz being wrong in his analysis or fight prediction ....
     
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 10:50 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

     
    He picked Corrales against Clottey     No he didn't  he had Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez   No he didn't   he had Marquez
     
    I don't ever remember Katz being wrong in his analysis or fight prediction ....
     



    You, my man are very uninformed.  Take a look yourself in the link below.  I have read Katz for years and he is nothing special as a handicapper, but he is a good read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

     
    He picked Corrales against Clottey     No he didn't  he had Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez   No he didn't   he had Marquez
     
    I don't ever remember Katz being wrong in his analysis or fight prediction ....
     



    You, my man are very uninformed.  Take a look yourself in the link below.  I have read Katz for years and he is nothing special as a handicapper, but he is a good read.

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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 11:21 AM ET #6

    Any more outlandish statements that need to be proven false?  Besides, can you imagine anyone who never made a mistake in picking a "major or minor" fight as you said over the course of 5 years, come on.  Katz is very very ordinary when it comes to handicapping boxing from an odds prospective, although I have heard that he is a decent horse racing bettor.






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    Any more outlandish statements that need to be proven false?  Besides, can you imagine anyone who never made a mistake in picking a "major or minor" fight as you said over the course of 5 years, come on.  Katz is very very ordinary when it comes to handicapping boxing from an odds prospective, although I have heard that he is a decent horse racing bettor.






     
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    Ok.... but his gaming today columns were more in-depth than that of course, and those were weak leans....not Buy!Buy!Buy! alerts....he's called many upsets and he's the pound for pound best analyst of boxing out there.
     
    If you think he's "nothing special as a handicapper" that who IS special as a handicapper???
     
     
     I've found when Katz feels strongly about I fight, it's money in the bank.
     
    He's certainly not ordinary...LOL
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    Ok.... but his gaming today columns were more in-depth than that of course, and those were weak leans....not Buy!Buy!Buy! alerts....he's called many upsets and he's the pound for pound best analyst of boxing out there.
     
    If you think he's "nothing special as a handicapper" that who IS special as a handicapper???
     
     
     I've found when Katz feels strongly about I fight, it's money in the bank.
     
    He's certainly not ordinary...LOL
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

    Ok.... but his gaming today columns were more in-depth than that of course, and those were weak leans....not Buy!Buy!Buy! alerts....he's called many upsets and he's the pound for pound best analyst of boxing out there.
     
    If you think he's "nothing special as a handicapper" that who IS special as a handicapper???
     
     
     I've found when Katz feels strongly about I fight, it's money in the bank.
     
    He's certainly not ordinary...LOL
      Do your Homework Homey Graham @ Fighnews is better than him
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

    Ok.... but his gaming today columns were more in-depth than that of course, and those were weak leans....not Buy!Buy!Buy! alerts....he's called many upsets and he's the pound for pound best analyst of boxing out there.
     
    If you think he's "nothing special as a handicapper" that who IS special as a handicapper???
     
     
     I've found when Katz feels strongly about I fight, it's money in the bank.
     
    He's certainly not ordinary...LOL
      Do your Homework Homey Graham @ Fighnews is better than him
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 11:33 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
    Good Link Blade Barkley chiming in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
    Good Link Blade Barkley chiming in
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

    Ok.... but his gaming today columns were more in-depth than that of course, and those were weak leans....not Buy!Buy!Buy! alerts....he's called many upsets and he's the pound for pound best analyst of boxing out there.
     
    If you think he's "nothing special as a handicapper" that who IS special as a handicapper???
     
     
     I've found when Katz feels strongly about I fight, it's money in the bank.
     
    He's certainly not ordinary...LOL



    Talk about pulling a 180".  I thought you said he took Clottey and Marquez. 

    You asked who is special as a handicapper.  There are some sharp guys on this board and a couple of other boards on the net also.  I would consider myself a pretty solid handicapper and that's not me talking, that's just results talking.  One of Katz's close friends is actually a pretty solid guy at playing the odds, Johnny Bos. 

    I just went through some archived picks over at Maxboxing just to refresh my memory and like I said he is ordinary.  No real big surprises, he was pretty consistent in picking heavy faves that won and a couple of the dogs that he went with got blown out.

    Handicapping as a whole is much more than just picking a winner, it's about weighing your plays.

    I still can't get over the fact that you said that he has never been wrong, I just saw a crap load of incorrect picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

    Ok.... but his gaming today columns were more in-depth than that of course, and those were weak leans....not Buy!Buy!Buy! alerts....he's called many upsets and he's the pound for pound best analyst of boxing out there.
     
    If you think he's "nothing special as a handicapper" that who IS special as a handicapper???
     
     
     I've found when Katz feels strongly about I fight, it's money in the bank.
     
    He's certainly not ordinary...LOL



    Talk about pulling a 180".  I thought you said he took Clottey and Marquez. 

    You asked who is special as a handicapper.  There are some sharp guys on this board and a couple of other boards on the net also.  I would consider myself a pretty solid handicapper and that's not me talking, that's just results talking.  One of Katz's close friends is actually a pretty solid guy at playing the odds, Johnny Bos. 

    I just went through some archived picks over at Maxboxing just to refresh my memory and like I said he is ordinary.  No real big surprises, he was pretty consistent in picking heavy faves that won and a couple of the dogs that he went with got blown out.

    Handicapping as a whole is much more than just picking a winner, it's about weighing your plays.

    I still can't get over the fact that you said that he has never been wrong, I just saw a crap load of incorrect picks.
     
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    "De La Hoya hasn’t beaten an elite-level fighter in years. He looked shaky in beating Felix Sturm," - Tim Graham.
     
    Thats BS... Sturm BEAT DLH. I dont care what the cards say... that boy was better by far. Who was DLH getting ready to fight next? It was a prom fight before a BIG card... why cant I remember who it was?
     
    And whats funny about that link is I dont think ANY of those 20 people said it was going to go down by KO. ALL of them said distance I believe.
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    "De La Hoya hasn’t beaten an elite-level fighter in years. He looked shaky in beating Felix Sturm," - Tim Graham.
     
    Thats BS... Sturm BEAT DLH. I dont care what the cards say... that boy was better by far. Who was DLH getting ready to fight next? It was a prom fight before a BIG card... why cant I remember who it was?
     
    And whats funny about that link is I dont think ANY of those 20 people said it was going to go down by KO. ALL of them said distance I believe.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSoze:

    Thats BS... Sturm BEAT DLH. I dont care what the cards say... that boy was better by far. Who was DLH getting ready to fight next? It was a prom fight before a BIG card... why cant I remember who it was?
     
    And whats funny about that link is I dont think ANY of those 20 people said it was going to go down by KO. ALL of them said distance I believe.
     
    I believe it MAY have been before Hopkins. . .  Don't hold me to it though. . .
     
    I think there was one guy in there who said that Mayweather by TKO, but yeah, it may have been only one. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSoze:

    Thats BS... Sturm BEAT DLH. I dont care what the cards say... that boy was better by far. Who was DLH getting ready to fight next? It was a prom fight before a BIG card... why cant I remember who it was?
     
    And whats funny about that link is I dont think ANY of those 20 people said it was going to go down by KO. ALL of them said distance I believe.
     
    I believe it MAY have been before Hopkins. . .  Don't hold me to it though. . .
     
    I think there was one guy in there who said that Mayweather by TKO, but yeah, it may have been only one. 
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 2:07 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
     
    Nice work FB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Michael Katz has never been wrong, are you kidding me.   

    Let's see, here are a couple of his recent losers posted over in the predictions at Boxingtalk.com where he writes now.  He is a great writer, but an ordinary fight handicapper. 
    He picked Corrales against Clottey
    He took Barrera over Marquez

    Your memory is either terribly off or you are completely naive. I like Mayweather in the fight also, but come on separate fact from fiction.

    Here are 20 "experts" take on the fight from Ring Magazine.
    Ring Magazine Expert Picks
     
    Nice work FB!
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2007 - 4:53 PM ET #14

    but does the good bog man theory apply here when the good big man has only fought once in 2+ years and that was vs a guy they knew he would beat in mayorga
     
    im rooting for oscar but i dunno if he wins
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    but does the good bog man theory apply here when the good big man has only fought once in 2+ years and that was vs a guy they knew he would beat in mayorga
     
    im rooting for oscar but i dunno if he wins
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 3:28 PM ET #15

    Unlv are you in vegas?
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    Unlv are you in vegas?
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 11:20 PM ET #16

    Unlv are you in vegas?
     
     
    Yep 

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    Unlv are you in vegas?
     
     
    Yep 

     
    alwayswin
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    Posted: May. 4, 2007 - 7:07 PM ET #17

    Katz had Tarver over Hopkins.
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    Katz had Tarver over Hopkins.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 4:38 PM ET #18

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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 12:50 AM ET #19

    Katz had Tarver over Hopkins.
     
     
    NO sir you are wrong...he had hopkins over tarver and i'm certain about that.
     
     
    FLOYD WINS!!
     
    KATZ

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    Katz had Tarver over Hopkins.
     
     
    NO sir you are wrong...he had hopkins over tarver and i'm certain about that.
     
     
    FLOYD WINS!!
     
    KATZ

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 11:09 AM ET #20

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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 6:36 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

    Katz had Tarver over Hopkins.
     
     
    NO sir you are wrong...he had hopkins over tarver and i'm certain about that.
     
     
    FLOYD WINS!!
     
    KATZ

     
    I had $13K on Tarver that fight.  I think I have a better memory of the events surrounding that night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlv45:

    Katz had Tarver over Hopkins.
     
     
    NO sir you are wrong...he had hopkins over tarver and i'm certain about that.
     
     
    FLOYD WINS!!
     
    KATZ

     
    I had $13K on Tarver that fight.  I think I have a better memory of the events surrounding that night.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 9:34 PM ET #22

    I had $13K on Tarver that fight.  I think I have a better memory of the events surrounding that night.
     
    Katz like Hopkins...if fact he found is amusing that Tarver was the favorite I recall.
     
     
    I had cash on the fight too, and one of the reasons I be Hopkins was because Katz like him. Trust me you are wrong.  I don't want to get too juvenile and say "wanna make a bet", but if you would like to bet on this I'm game. I'm sure I could dig it out of the archives somewhere.
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    I had $13K on Tarver that fight.  I think I have a better memory of the events surrounding that night.
     
    Katz like Hopkins...if fact he found is amusing that Tarver was the favorite I recall.
     
     
    I had cash on the fight too, and one of the reasons I be Hopkins was because Katz like him. Trust me you are wrong.  I don't want to get too juvenile and say "wanna make a bet", but if you would like to bet on this I'm game. I'm sure I could dig it out of the archives somewhere.
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